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    McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Tuesday, June 10, 2008
    Why McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    One immediate benefit of the Obama-Clinton detente is that full attention can now be paid to John McCain's serial wafflings. After all, the "maverick" has been on quite a roll.

    Last week, for instance, McCain failed to show up in the Senate for a crucial vote on a bipartisan bill - co-sponsored by his friends and allies John Warner and Joe Lieberman - that was designed to curb the worst effects of climate change. Going AWOL was an interesting choice, considering the fact that, just three weeks previous, McCain had been talking about the importance of this climate change bill ("I hope it will pass, and I hope the entire Congress will join in supporting it and the President of the United States will sign it"); and that, for many months previous, McCain had been trying to woo centrist independent voters by talking up his concerns about global warming (complete with photos of him walking through forests), and generally signaling that his environmental views are far greener than those expressed by President Bush.

    Anyway, he didn't show for the green vote that he deemed so important. Which actually was not much of a surprise, because when the Senate brought up an amendment, one year ago, that would have curbed some Big Oil subsidies in order to fund renewable energy, McCain didn't show up for that either. And last Dec. 13, when the Senate tried to unclog some GOP-imposed parliamentary roadblocks, in order to again shift some Big Oil subsidies to renewable energy, McCain didn't show up for that either.

    But his latest global warning bailout wasn't the only highlight last week. He also flip-flopped on the issue of surveillance and unchecked executive power, embracing the conservative position that presidents should be allowed to act in an unfettered fashion.

    In an online letter to the conservative National Review, a McCain aide said that the candidate applauds President Bush for wiretapping American citizens without warrants, despite the 1978 federal law that has long required such warrants. According to the letter, McCain believes that working closely with the telecoms on survelliance is "constitutional and appropriate...as authorized by Article II of the Constitution." That's a signal to conservatives that McCain supports the concept of an all-powerful "unitary executive," freed of the normal congressional checks and balances.

    Yet that's not what McCain was saying last winter. In a questionnaire, the Boston Globe asked him whether he believed that a president could conduct warrantless domestic surveillance in defiance of federal law. In response, McCain said that such laws don't apply to surveillance conducted abroad, and then said: "I think that presidents have the obligation to obey and enforce laws that are passed by Congress and signed into law by the president, no matter what the situation is...I don't think the president has the right to disobey any law." (Emphases mine.)

    So he's dining at the Waffle House over climate change and executive power...anything else? Absolutely:

    Three weeks ago, a senior McCain aide told ABC News that the candidate does not intend to alter the absolutist anti-abortion plank in the Republican party platform. The GOP plank has long decreed that abortion should be illegal under all circumstances, even if the woman is pregnant as the result of a rape or an incident of incest, and even if the woman might die during pregnancy. But McCain's hands-off posture is yet another flip-flop, because he had indicated twice in the past - in 2007, and during a 2000 debate with Bush - that the plank should be changed to include exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother.

    We've also watched McCain (in a January debate) go AWOL on his own immigration path-to-citizenship reform bill. Until he got too much heat from the GOP conservative base in 2006, he was for it. But when asked in the debate whether he would be willing to vote for his own bill if it resurfaced in the Senate today, he replied: "No, I would not."

    This exchange occurred shortly before another flip-flop, this time on torture. McCain had long been on record as opposing the practice of waterboarding as an interrogative technique; yet, in mid-February, he voted against a Senate bill that would have required CIA interrogators to obey the U.S. Army Field manual - which bars waterboarding. (At least he showed up for the vote this time.)

    So, what gives with all this waffling? That's an easy one, and it speaks to McCain's chief challenge in this election.

    He badly needs to outduel Obama among centrist, independent, swing voters. That's the key to victory. Yet he won't even be able to duel effectively unless he first locks down the conservative voters in the GOP base. The problem is, a lot of those voters have never been enthusiastic about McCain, and thus far there is little evidence that he will mobilize them in the enthused and outsize numbers that helped put Bush over the top in his '04 re-election race - particularly in crucial states such as Ohio.

    That's why we're hearing so much double talk. McCain tilts toward the centrists on executive power (presidents should obey the law), then tilts rightward. He makes centrist rhetorical noises on climate change and the environment and torture and abortion, then ensures that he won't actually cast votes or take any action that the right can use against him.

    Can he satisfy both potential constituencies? Bay Buchanan, the conservative activist and sister of Pat, doesn't believe it matters what McCain does. As she wrote online the other day, "(I)n reality, there is only one candidate in November. Barack Obama. In November he will win or he will lose. John McCain is relevent only in so far that he is not Barack Obama. The senator from Arizona is incapable of energizing his party, brings no new people to the polls, and has a personality that is best kept under wraps."

    Now there's a ringing endorsement.
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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    like you can trust Angela Marie Buchanan. I mean here she went and became an apostate by converting to Mormonism.
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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    "Climate change bill" Don't those people have any real work to do?
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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    can we at least vote first before obama is annoited?

    check out thier taxes they filed

    hillary checks the to donate to the Presidental fund...$3.00

    obama doesn't even check the box...as no i don't care to.

    he's only running for the highest office in the land..President

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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Really?

    Oh.

    Cool.

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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    I don't know which knucklehead is worse these days. Tuba or JM? JM or Tuba? HMMMMM.

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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    I vote for me.

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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMack View Post
    I vote for me.
    Me too. At least Tuba supports the right candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C&CDean View Post
    Me too. At least Tuba supports the right candidate.
    I thought McCain was a closet lefty
    If I am right, then religious fundamentalists will not go to Heaven, because there is no Heaven. If THEY are right, then they will not go to Heaven, because they are hypocrites.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMack View Post
    Really?

    Oh.

    Cool.
    If his posts ever start to make sense it will be a sign of the coming rapture.
    If I am right, then religious fundamentalists will not go to Heaven, because there is no Heaven. If THEY are right, then they will not go to Heaven, because they are hypocrites.


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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Quote Originally Posted by C&CDean View Post
    I don't know which knucklehead is worse these days. Tuba or JM? JM or Tuba? HMMMMM.
    Tuba. Definitely Tuba.

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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner_Havok View Post
    I thought McCain was a closet lefty
    Could be. But when we have Frick or Frack to choose from, my money is on the experienced, ex-POW veteran, codgy old white dude.

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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Who are these guys going to pick as running mates? Or, more importantly, who are they most likely to appoint to their cabinets? I think that will be my deciding factor...
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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Quote Originally Posted by NormanPride View Post
    Who are these guys going to pick as running mates? Or, more importantly, who are they most likely to appoint to their cabinets? I think that will be my deciding factor...
    I have no idea who they will pick, but I know who they should pick.

    McCain should choose Sarah Palin
    Obama should choose Bill Richardson

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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Did he get them smothered, splattered or covered?

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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    I always go for the smiley face pancakes.


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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    I have no idea who they will pick, but I know who they should pick.

    McCain should choose Sarah Palin
    Obama should choose Bill Richardson
    I have no problem with either of these.

    Palin doesn't bring a whole lot to the ticket for McCain, though. She's governor of a small (population-wise) state that's likely to vote for McCain anyhow. She does have the whole youthiness thing going, though, and she's wildly popular up here.
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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    Did he get them smothered, splattered or covered?
    Stop with your filthy talk right now Mr.

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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Quote Originally Posted by Czar Soonerov View Post
    I always go for the smiley face pancakes.

    D'oh! That's IHOP.

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    Re: McCain is dining at the Waffle House

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    I have no idea who they will pick, but I know who they should pick.

    McCain should choose Sarah Palin
    Obama should choose Bill Richardson
    I wouldn't be surprised if Obama goes for Wesley Clark. Non-partisanship makes me wish he'd go with Colin Powell.
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