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    I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    I can has too many cheezburgers!

    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...Zk5xnYygW1W67w

    We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

    "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    It's true that Americans need to consume less, overall. For our own soul's sake even, I think.
    “Some people who attend the University of Oklahoma seem to represent different values than some people who attend the University of Texas.” -- Mr. J. Mcfarland

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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by 47straight View Post
    It's true that Americans need to consume less, overall. For our own soul's sake even, I think.
    True, but it ain't the nanny state's job to make it happen.
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by Dio View Post
    True, but it ain't the nanny state's job to make it happen.
    That's the lender's job.
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    they also shouldnt be giving people tax credits who choose to buy the biggest suv on the market either
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    if you want to live in gluttony, you should have to face the brunt of those choices yourself.
    i make my guitar weep, but my champagne cry

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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by def_lazer_fc View Post
    they also shouldnt be giving people tax credits who choose to buy the biggest suv on the market either

    Hey. I resemble that statement.

    My new Armada suits my family of five just fine btw.
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by Dio View Post
    True, but it ain't the nanny state's job to make it happen.
    I agree that meaningful changes comes down to personal conversion.


    On the other hand, many things like our tax system are set up to encourage consumption and not saving. The gub'mint can do a lot in just how it does its business it was gonna do anyway.
    “Some people who attend the University of Oklahoma seem to represent different values than some people who attend the University of Texas.” -- Mr. J. Mcfarland

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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by Dio View Post
    True, but it ain't the nanny state's job to make it happen.
    What about when your "personal choices" effect everybody else?
    I'm not happy until you're not happy.

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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Just keep repeating...you know, monotonally, and somewhat zombie-like: TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS, FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS MEANS. TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS, FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS MEANS.TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS, FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS MEANS.TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS, FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS MEANS.TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS, FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS MEANS.TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS, FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS MEANS....
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by Okla-homey View Post
    ....TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS, FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS MEANS....


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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by 12 View Post
    I confess: I am a Marxist.
    You tell me it's the institution. Well, you know, you'd better free your mind instead.
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by mdklatt View Post
    What about when your "personal choices" effect everybody else?
    I'm sure you meant "affect" (the verb) so please define it. That's a slippery slopt, the thin edge of the wedge, etc.
    Every choice has far-reaching effects (noun), so you have to be ready to set some hard limits or you'll open up the door to all kinds of oppression based on how my acts affect others.
    You tell me it's the institution. Well, you know, you'd better free your mind instead.
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by TUSooner View Post
    I'm sure you meant "affect" (the verb) so please define it. That's a slippery slopt, the thin edge of the wedge, etc.
    Effect is also a verb, and affect is also a noun, but yes I meant affect the verb.

    Your toothpaste brand or underwear color is a personal choice. The car you drive is not. It not just "your" gasoline you're using, or "your" air you're polluting, or "your" lives you're endangering in collisions, or "your" pavement you're destroying.
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by TUSooner View Post
    I'm sure you meant "affect" (the verb) so please define it. That's a slippery slopt, the thin edge of the wedge, etc.
    Every choice has far-reaching effects (noun), so you have to be ready to set some hard limits or you'll open up the door to all kinds of oppression based on how my acts affect others.

    a slippery slopt?
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by soonerbrat View Post
    a slippery slopt?
    That's what happens when you have too much lube. Ask Harry Beanbag.
    I'm not happy until you're not happy.

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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    The whole Nation will be in bad trouble if that sob is elected.
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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by mdklatt View Post
    Your toothpaste brand or underwear color is a personal choice. The car you drive is not. It not just "your" gasoline you're using, or "your" air you're polluting, or "your" lives you're endangering in collisions, or "your" pavement you're destroying.

    This is one of the weakest arguments you've ever made.

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    Re: I'm going to be in bad trouble when Obama is POTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by mdklatt View Post
    That's what happens when you have too much lube. Ask Harry Beanbag.

    Exactly. You have to be careful with that stuff.

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