We've got about 6 months to go before the General Election

[JohnnyMack]

Most of you hawks and elephants have yourselves convinced that John McCain will win this thing. That or you have your fingers pressed too far into your ears and your eyes clamped so tightly shut that you're doing everything possible to remain numb to the momentum that is Barack Obama. But we've got six months to go. Six long months.

I'd just like to point out that six months ago HRC had over a 20 point lead in national polls. She was the presumptive nominee. She had a massive war chest, the right name and was going to cruise to the nomination. She was the agent of change. An inevitability most called it.

Six months ago Mike Huckabee had an ever so slight lead over John McCain in the national polls.

[StoopTroup]

6 months ago...gas seemed really expensive.

[85Sooner]

They are all of the Same. BAD FOR THE U.S. because we have an ignorant popultion that somehow learned/believes that Gov was/is supposed to take care of them/us and alot of Socialist/Communist (read environmentalist and their ilk) ,citizens who hate this country and want it taken down. Don't know where they would go though I will be gracious enough to send them there and they can party with the muslim extremists. Hell, most of the might be virgins !

[Okla-homey]

This country will not elect that man to the presidency. There are many reasons. Some are fair, some aren't. Nevertheless, it won't.

Here's a little story that happened just this weekend. I'm waiting on a haircut. These two white ladies were talking. Both were apparently school teachers. I overheard them discussing the fact they were donks, but neither could vote for BHO because he "scared them." I think he scares a lot of people.

[SoonerBorn68]

I'd just like to point out that the William Ayers story will be out in all it's glory in a few months, Obama's real estate indecretions will be front page news, the Pubs haven't even started with the Rev. Wright association, & prolly a few more surprises that will make Barrackie Boy unelectable.

Besides, he's a full blown Marxist.

Jus' sayin'.

[King Crimson]

Obama is not a Marxist, he's an Islamofascist Black Panther.

[Okla-homey]

Obama is not a Marxist, he's an Islamofascist Black Panther.

That's right. Barack Hussein Bin Laden Obama.

[Rogue]

6 months a long time. If the election were 4 months ago, BHO was doing great. Then HRC fired up the Democratic Self-Destruction machine that has been one of the most effective political forces of all time.

[King Crimson]

6 months a long time. If the election were 4 months ago, BHO was doing great. Then HRC fired up the Democratic Self-Destruction machine that has been one of the most effective political forces of all time.

you can always count on the Dems to screw it up. if anything the last two POTUS elections have shown that they are totally inept at "success", most of all.

i don't know, Obama may "do it" (and not with the limo driver), but he might be George McGovern in 72 and get steamrolled in the big show.

one thing is for sure: he's gonna face a sh*t-stick of a decision with making a VP decision. the HRC "dream team" thing is creepy. i'd get as far away from her as possible, if it were me. maybe that's the only way they think they can win.

personally, i'd dump her and take my chances. if you take her on as VP, that just shows the world you are a creature of the Party...and not your own man.

[Ash]

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[Rogue]

you can always count on the Dems to screw it up. if anything the last two POTUS elections have shown that they are totally inept at "success", most of all.
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Her campaign is dead, and she somehow finds a way to make it worse.

Clinton said Obama's support among "working, hard-working Americans, white Americans" was weak in comparison to her own.

Yup, sure as God made little green apples, the Dems will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Okla-homey]

The DNC courted and won the black vote forty years ago. In fact, statistically, >90% of black folks vote Donk.

Thus, there is a touch of irony in the fact that the #1 Donk woman in America lost her bid for the WH because those same black folks decided to vote for a fellow black person instead of her. Creamy and delicious schadenfruede.

...especially since HRC would have been harder for JSM to beat.

[King Crimson]

The DNC courted and won the black vote forty years ago. In fact, statistically, >90% of black folks vote Donk.

Thus, there is a touch of irony in the fact that the #1 Donk woman in America lost her bid for the WH because those same black folks decided to vote for a fellow black person instead of her. Creamy and delicious schadenfruede.

...especially since HRC would have been harder for JSM to beat.

see: this argument is bull****. i actually know "black people" and they don't think like this. it's way too easy to conflate race and politics.

it's ironic that GOP "freethinkers" act like "black voting for black" is some heinous counter-freedom crime against the Republic.

it's truly sad that we've all been taught to think all issues in terms of left/right

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

i don't know, Obama may "do it" (and not with the limo driver), but he might be George McGovern in 72 and get steamrolled in the big show.

one thing is for sure: he's gonna face a sh*t-stick of a decision with making a VP decision. the HRC "dream team" thing is creepy. i'd get as far away from her as possible, if it were me. maybe that's the only way they think they can win.

personally, i'd dump her and take my chances. if you take her on as VP, that just shows the world you are a creature of the Party...and not your own man.

I think hellery can beat McCain. Obama prolly can't beat mcCain. (the dems will fail by nominating Obama)

[Big Red Ron]

Most of you hawks and elephants have yourselves convinced that John McCain will win this thing. That or you have your fingers pressed too far into your ears and your eyes clamped so tightly shut that you're doing everything possible to remain numb to the momentum that is Barack Obama. But we've got six months to go. Six long months.

I'd just like to point out that six months ago HRC had over a 20 point lead in national polls. She was the presumptive nominee. She had a massive war chest, the right name and was going to cruise to the nomination. She was the agent of change. An inevitability most called it.

Six months ago Mike Huckabee had an ever so slight lead over John McCain in the national polls.

I'd like to make this point very clear. Hillary Clinton and Huckabee are not John McCain.

McCain should have been elected back in 2000. If it weren't for the most negative smear campaign I've ever seen in the South by Karl Rove, which I applaud as a matter of strategy, McCain was winning.

Bush, not McCain has set the GOP back. I have no doubt that McCain's intelligence and moderate nature will be a safe, warm place for voters to go in November.

[Okla-homey]

see: this argument is bull****. i actually know "black people" and they don't think like this. it's way too easy to conflate race and politics.

it's ironic that GOP "freethinkers" act like "black voting for black" is some heinous counter-freedom crime against the Republic.

it's truly sad that we've all been taught to think all issues in terms of left/right

I know people vote the way they do for many reasons. Sometimes those reasons don't make much sense and aren't grounded in reason.

I've lived much of my life in the Deep South (e.g. SC, NC, TN, GA, AL, TX, AR, Southern OK east of I-35 and south of I-40) and I know something else.

Trust me, black folks there vote overwhelmingly Donk. Period.

Much of the reason they do is because they've been taught from Pulpit and Party the GOP and the Party of Lincoln is the "Republi-Klan" party. Never mind the fact all the great Segregationists of the 50' and 60's were Donks.

Thus, if anyone conflated race and politics, its black preachers who did so. IMH, but considered, opinion, southern black folks would vote for an ex-Confederate general if he was the Donk candidate over Jesus himself if He ran with an (R) after His name. How else do you explain Robert Byrd? That also partially explains why Clarence Thomas does not enjoy wide respect and admiration in the black community notwithstanding the fact he is only the second black American to serve on the highest court on the planet.

[Big Red Ron]

Thus, if anyone conflated race and politics, its black preachers who did so.

Which alone makes this election so ironic. It's been ok to be a black racist, even behind the pulpit but thats okay in th urban area in big cities. That **** don't sell outside of those places.

It may be indirect or direct but Obama's 20 year relationship with a church like that is going to be enough for some on the fence to pass on him.

Not this time. Not this guy. No way. No how.

I do believe is paving the way for future mulatto/Black candidates from both party's.

[Okla-homey]

Which alone makes this election so ironic. It's been ok to be a black racist, even behind the pulpit but thats okay in th urban area in big cities. That **** don't sell outside of those places.

It may be indirect or direct but Obama's 20 year relationship with a church like that is going to be enough for some on the fence to pass on him.

Not this time. Not this guy. No way. No how.

I do believe is paving the way for future mulatto/Black candidates from both party's.

Personally, I'd vote for JC Watts, Colin Powell, Alan Keyes or even Artur Davis from Alabama in a heartbeat. BTW, I like that Army lieutenant general they brought in to restore order in NOLA too. Can't remember his name.

[King Crimson]

history don't mean dick anymore Homey. Lincoln, whigs, the formation of the Republican Party out of anti-colonialism newspapers....the power of the independent press to win the right of nationhood.

the GOP of Karl Rove and Wolfawitz is NOT the same as Lincoln. it's closer to Lenin's "vanguard party" than Plato or good-mannered concord of the orders (Cicero).

and to be honest, this "pulpit to the party" thing is SO overstated....I suspect, like the majority rest of the American population, the "black people" make their political estimation on everyday life, secular realities, and not religious issues.....not organized by some Rasputin from the Black Panthers or Black Islam.

[Okla-homey]

history don't mean dick anymore Homey. Lincoln, whigs, the formation of the Republican Party out of anti-colonialism newspapers....the power of the independent press to win the right of nationhood.

the GOP of Karl Rove and Wolfawitz is NOT the same as Lincoln. it's closer to Lenin's "vanguard party" than Plato or good-mannered concord of the orders (Cicero).

and to be honest, this "pulpit to the party" thing is SO overstated....I suspect, like the majority rest of the American population, the "black people" make their political estimation on everyday life, secular realities, and not religious issues.....not organized by some Rasputin from the Black Panthers or Black Islam.

I realize and respect your right to your opinion. I'm just saying we must agree to disagree on this one. I spent a great deal of time sweating in the Deep South mugginess where I learned that black = Democrat. Now, that said, "southern white male" generally = 'Pub, but not by nearly as a high a percentage. Those guys will vote Donk if they happen to be teachers or members of trade unions.