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    Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    Oct. 25, 1944: First kamikaze attack of the war begins



    Sixty-three years ago, on this day in 1944, during the Battle of the Leyte Gulf, the Japanese deploy kamikaze ("divine wind") suicide attacks against Allied warships for the first time. It will prove costly--to both sides.

    This decision to employ suicide attacks against Adm. Bull Halsey's US fleet at Leyte, an island in the Philippine archepeligo, was based on the failure of conventional naval and aerial engagements to stop the American offensive.

    "I firmly believe that the only way to swing the war in our favor is to resort to crash-dive attacks with our planes.... There will be more than enough volunteers for this chance to save our country." -- Capt. Motoharu Okamura, Imperial Japanese Navy
    The first kamikaze force was in fact composed of 24 volunteer pilots from Japan's 201st Navy Air Group. The targets were U.S. escort carriers*; one, USS St. Lo, was struck by a Mitsubishi A6M "Zero" fighter and sunk in less than an hour, killing 100 Americans. More than 5,000 kamikaze pilots died in the three week battle off the island resulting in the sinking of 34 American ships.


    USS St. Lo in its final hour after suffering a kamikaze attack

    For their kamikaze raids, the Japanese employed both conventional aircraft and specially designed planes, called Ohka ("cherry blossom") by the Japanese, but Baka ("fool") by the Americans, who saw them as acts of desperation.


    Baka/Ohka. The nose was packed with TNT and the contraption was powered by a crude rocket engine which was fired-up after being released from its mother bomber. No landing gear required because it was a one-way affair.

    The Baka was a rocket-powered aircraft that was carried toward its target attached to the belly of a bomber and released a few miles from the target vessel. In a sense, it was among the world's first air launched cruise missiles.

    Incidentally, the Nazi's had developed similar technology, but their system involved flying an explosives-packed glide bomb to its target by radio control from the "mother" aircraft, thus avoiding loss of a pilot.


    Henschel Hs 293 Air-to-Ship, Wireless Guided, Gliding Bomb carried by a Dornier 217

    All told, more than 1,321 Japanese aircraft crash-dived their planes into Allied warships during the war in desperate efforts to reverse the growing Allied advantage in the Pacific.


    Aftermath of a kamikaze attack aboard a Royal Navy carrier


    US nurses surveying what was left of a kamikazi aboard their US hospital ship. Kamakazi's didin't mind attacking ships emblazoned with big honking red crosses indicating they were hospital ships and thus not legal targets under the Geneva Convention.


    US hospital ship. Painted a dazzling white, with a broad green stripe all the way around and ginormous red crosses. They could not be attacked under the Convention.

    While approximately 3,000 Americans and Brits died because of these attacks, the damage done did not prevent the Allied capture of the Philippines, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa.


    Near miss. The only defense was to try to blast the thing to smithereens with AAA before it could make impact. Alternatively, if the cockpit could be shot-up and the pilot killed, that would work too.

    * "escort carriers" were smaller, less capable aircraft carriers than the big fleet carriers around which battle groups were organized. They were called "escort" carriers because they were designed to "escort" flotilla's and/or convoys of merchantmen to provide a degree of aerial surveillance and support against submarine and air attack.


    Typical escort carrier

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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    Good stuff!
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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    Japs had to learn their friggin' lesson, unfortunately, the hard way.

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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    Unfortunately, they gave the towelheads some great ideas...

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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerStormchaser
    Unfortunately, they gave the towelheads some equally ineffective at achieving ultimate military objectives ideas...
    fixed it.
    "Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever they can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser; in fees, expenses and waste of time." -- Abraham Lincoln, (1809-1865) Lawyer and President who saved the United States.

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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    I went to the Yasukuni Jinja Yushukan Museum when I was in Tokyo which is their war memorial shrine. It is interesting to see it from a different perspective.

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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    I suppose. But perspective 62 years later is different than the perspective our guys had lining up for a blood bath.

    Horrible? Yes.

    But, the Japanese are now a very humble people. Proud and fiercely industrious, but humble.

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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    Quote Originally Posted by VeeJay
    But, the Japanese are now a very humble people. Proud and fiercely industrious, but humble.
    They're anything but humble; they're just not warmongers anymore.

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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    Good post. I wonder where the term "smithereens" came from?

    My quest for the day (well, at least the next 15 minutes) is to research the etymology of smithereens. brb

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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    According to dictionary.com, smithereens comes courtesy of the Irish

    "From Irish Gaelic smidirīn, diminutive of smiodar, small fragment."

    It was a favorite of Yosemite Sam.

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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    The Japanese soldiers were absolutely bat-sh*t crazy. There is no way that today's American politicians and media would allow the US to continue sustaining the number of casaulties the US suffered in the Pacific theatre in WWII. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, et al would have been advocating US withdrawal as soon as MacAuthur had to evacuate the Phillipines.
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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    I thought that the movie Letters from Iwo Jima did a good job of working throough the die fighting metnality.
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    Re: Good Morning: Peerless Patriotism or Fatal Fanaticism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaevictis
    They're anything but humble; they're just not warmongers anymore.
    Okies and their damn stereotypes.

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