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Would You Encourage Your Son or Daughter To Join The Military?

Discussion in 'TrumpFest 2016' started by FaninAma, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. FaninAma

    FaninAma SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    I respect all individuals who have served or are currently serving in all branches of our military. My question pertains more to how the military is being used currently by our elected leaders. I question their judgement and resove and these doubts about leadership cut across both sides of the political aisle.

    What do you tell the families of military members who were killed or came home permanently wounded or maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan when you see what os going on with ISIS and understanding the very same thing will happen in Afghanistan after we withdraw?

    I watch the Wounded Warriors commercials and I feel such empathy for those families and individuals. What must they be thinking about the current state of affairs in Iraq and Afghanistan?

    I personally would not encourage my son or daughters to join the military......as things stand now.
  2. olevetonahill

    olevetonahill Well-Known Member

    As a Vet, and The father of a Vet I was very PROUD of my son and his 6 years of active duty. In Bosnia and Iraq. As it stands today I would Not encourage ANY youngster to enter the service. Nor would I discourage them. I would however Talk to them about seeing whos going to be in charge and If they can follow that Person.
    The Empty headed Empty Suit currently in Power? Id say Hell NO.
  3. Sooner in Tampa

    Sooner in Tampa SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    As a retired vet...you damn right I would encourage my children to enter the military...IF, that is what they wanted to do. I would push them into it, but if it were something they wanted to do, of course!

    The deal is; it's a volunteer force and if nobody joins, well then we are looking at bringing back the draft. The bottom line for me: this country is free because of the brave and if you are willing to sign a blank check for your country...I support you!!

    Semper Fi
  4. olevetonahill

    olevetonahill Well-Known Member

    I kinda agree Bro. I wouldnt encourage them tho. I dayum sure wouldnt tell em Not to.
    Like I said Id suggest they look at Whos gonna be the HNIC and decide before they sign up if they really believe they can follow that person.
    Thanks for your Service Bro
    Plus I dont necessarily believe the Draft would be a Bad thing. But instead of a "Selective" service. Make it a Mandatory 2 year for ALL able bodied Men and women.
  5. dwarthog

    dwarthog Well-Known Member

    I'm a vet as well and my Son is going on 10yrs + in the Navy. He got his Chief promotion this time last year.

    I'm proud of him and his service and like Sooner in Tampa said, someones got to be willing to stand up for the freedoms we enjoy and all to often taken for granted as a "right".

    Hard to say for sure if I would encourage him given all of the variables in play today. But, I doubt I would discourage him if it was a decision he was set on going through with.
  6. FaninAma

    FaninAma SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    I actually would discourage my kids from entering the military. I am old enough to have seen our politicians waste the shed blood of tens of thousands of our country's best and brightest in Vietnam and now the Middle East. And I will continue to do so until I see a change in our policy. Screw the Neocons like Bush. We can't continue to be every other country's mercenary force. And screw the spineless idiots like Obama and Kerry who don't have the courage to see the job through and end up wasting the blood and resources this country spent to achieve some semblance of a more stable world.

    I am very pro-military especially when it comes to our military individuals. They deserve higher pay and better medical care. They also deserve leadership that makes better decisions about how and when to use our military.
  7. One4OU

    One4OU New Member

    I am a vet and my thought is if you are in the military you have to follow the orders your are given. Your opinion or position is just that your opinion. You dont have to agree but you must follow the orders. We are in a time where majorities dont exist and half the country will always disagree. Even if there is a majority the minority negative viewpoints is all we will hear about.

    I would not want to be next to someone in a combat situation and wonder if they are going to ask why when it is my neck they should be covering.

    If you cant follow given orders the military isnt for you. I would let my kids decide for themself and yes all these wounded and killed men and women are a pure tragedy, but I believe we have two options, fight them here or fight them over there, either way we have to disrupt their organizations. It is a sick world and evil is everywhere now.
  8. badger

    badger Vacuums eat while yelling

    If it's what she wants to do. There are plenty of reasons other than worrying about politics to join the military, including selfish ones like a free education, having employment and attached benefits and retirement benefits after just 20 years of work.

    For unselfish reasons, it's also a very admirable profession. Budweiser will keep churning out military ads for years because pretty much everyone loves our soldiers right now, regardless of what way they lean politically.
  9. hawaii 5-0

    hawaii 5-0 Well-Known Member

    I like the 2 year mandatory idea for all able bodied men and women proposed by Vet (and the Israelis).

    Then they can decide whether they want to make it a career or not.

  10. IGotNoTiming

    IGotNoTiming New Member

    That is a great question. My boys are 7 and 5 right now. My feelings are this. If we were in a position of truly defending oir sovereignty or our borders, i would hug them and pray for them. If, however they were suiting up to fight another political battle over resources i would be hesitant to encourage them.
    I have never served. I was an Air Force brat. My dad was an Ops Officer who flew RC-135 for most of his 20 plus years in the service. I worshipped the ground he walked on. He passed away 5 years ago, but before that happened, I remember fondly our Sunday talks. He was opposed to the motives behind the decision to go into Iraq the second time, but he also said as a former member of the military, that if you are asked to go, it was your duty and did so without any reservations.
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2014
  11. olevetonahill

    olevetonahill Well-Known Member

    The Question was
    Mine was a Simple NO I would not encourage them in todays climate.
    Now if the Question was would you DIScourage them Id still say NO. I would NOT discurage them. I would advise them to look around and gho in with their eyes open tho.
  12. FaninAma

    FaninAma SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Thank you for your sincere and heart felt answers. On one hand I feel selfish for my desire to keep my kids out of harm's way. And I understand how important it is that we have capable and decent individuals answering the call to defend our nation.

    On the other hand, by encouraging or even passively standing by as my children make this decision only seems like I am enabling our political elites to continue misusing and mistreating not only my children but all the sons and daughters of other families. No more wasting of blood shed by our young men and women until the politicians can get their act together. Show me why it is necessary to ask them for this sacrifice and then prove to me you are going to honor the sacrifice by completing the mission.

    Trust and respect is earned. Neither political party has earned my respect and they certainly haven't earned my trust.
  13. rock on sooner

    rock on sooner SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    I served in the late 60's, dint go to the jungle but did go to Pakistan,
    got to listen to rilly good stuff, there and in Scotland before.
    My boy signed up while he was a junior in college. That was okay,
    but when he told me what the recruiter told him about what he would
    be doing as an officer, I went absolutely nuclear...that f****** told my
    son that he would be giving orders to patrol, not that he would have to
    lead the patrols...my son bought that crap....I found out this sob's name
    and called him. That mofo confirmed that he told my boy that s*** and
    that was sop. My wife kept me from going to the recruiting office to do him
    harm. Fortunately, there was a provision where he could petition out of the
    commitment and he did. Now, this a-hole called my home several times to
    "shame" my boy into coming back into the fold, with so n so did this and he
    stayed with his enlistment.

    Now, I know young and impressionable, but I told my boy that Bush's war was
    being fought for all the wrong reasons and this wasn't all that glitter....I'm happy
    to say my boy is where he should be and I have two great grandsons...

    Sorry for the length but this topic brought up really bad thoughts!
  14. FaninAma

    FaninAma SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Rockon, i would have done the same thing. What did we accomplish in Vietnam? What have we accomplished in the Middle East? Let the House of Saud simmer in the juices of the radicalism they helped to promote and let their sons and daughters shed blood to stop these ****tards. Quit being useful idiots for those SOBs.
  15. SicEmBaylor

    SicEmBaylor Baylor Ambassador

    I don't have kids, but I would likely not encourage them to join the military. I'd actively discourage it, in fact. The exception being if they had the opportunity to attend one of the service academies -- that's an opportunity too great to pass up.

    The problem I have with them joining the military is when the next civil war/revolution takes place...I want to make sure they are on the right side. I want to make sure they understand loyalty in this country starts with your family, local community, state, and then the f'n Feds dead last. My fear is the military isn't clear on this.
  16. BoulderSooner79

    BoulderSooner79 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    If the military were really geared toward national defense, I would say yes. With the way it has been 90% world police or protecting questionable "national interests" for decades, I say "NO!". The 9/11 thing was a stark example for me. Had I been a young man or qualified from previous service, I would have been first in line to go get Al Queda in Afghanistan. If I got diverted to Iraq, I would have gone AWOL.
  17. reflector

    reflector Well-Known Member

    I don't have a son or daughter!
  18. 8timechamps

    8timechamps Administrator

    I'm a vet, and I did not encourage either of my boys to join. However, if they were to show interest, I would absolutely encourage it, but it's a decision each person must make on their own. I've seen too many guys that were 'encouraged' into serving, only to be complete screw ups.

    This country is as strong as her military, that's the way things work. We are fortunate to have an all voluntary military the size (and skill) of the one we have. If everyone decided not to join, we'd be in trouble in a hurry.
  19. Wishboned

    Wishboned New Member

    I had girls, and the military was never an option either one of them ever considered. I probably would have tried to discourage them because of world events, and because of the way a lot of women in the military are treated.

    Now I have grandsons. And if they came to me for advice on the military I would shoot straight with them. I would tell them that it could be a great opportunity. But they should know that opportunity can come with a huge price tag.

    I don't regret the time I spent in service. I was fortunate though that we never had a long drawn out war. We just had little skirmishes from time to time. I got to do a lot of things that I never would have even dreamed of, and I got to see a little bit of history.
  20. FaninAma

    FaninAma SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    And the usual suspects have started beating the war drums again.

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