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When Is The League Going To Call Baylor On The Head Shots?

Discussion in 'Sooner Football' started by FaninAma, Nov 16, 2013.

  1. FaninAma

    FaninAma SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Me thinks the league office will have reams of video on Baylor's defense to review by years end.

    Sic'em it wasn't Dixon who cheap shotted Shepard. It was Morton. And review the video. Sterling wasn't lowering his head to inflict a blow he was trying to avoid Morton coming in high. When Sterling did this Morton adjusts and lowers his shoulder to go after Sterlings head which is in a lower plane of trajectory. He was head hunting.
  2. SicEmBaylor

    SicEmBaylor Baylor Ambassador

    CPB also started blitzing a lot more.
  3. kbsooner21

    kbsooner21 New Member

    I agree 100%
  4. FaninAma

    FaninAma SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    I only have 2 complaints with Baylor: the DB holding and the DB head hunting. I don't even care about the pick plays. That's up to the refs to call.

    If Sterling doesn't come back this year Stoops needs to make an official complaint to the league office. The really stupid thing is Baylor would still be undefeated without the thuggery.
  5. SicEmBaylor

    SicEmBaylor Baylor Ambassador

    Nobody is head hunting at Baylor. This is a ridiculous accusation. At worst, they're playing a little too aggressively but nobody has a list of opposing players they're trying to purposely hurt and knock out of the game. That's a baseless accusation and the kind of baseless accusation that drives me absolutely crazy. Unless you have evidence to suggest that Baylor is encouraging its players to hurt opposing players then I'd ask you, as respectfully as I can, to cease such nonsense.

    Players get hurt all the time. It's unfortunate, but it didn't happen because of head hunting.
  6. ashley

    ashley Well-Known Member

    Yes. Has this turned into the losers lounge like the Aggies have been for years.
  7. 8timechamps

    8timechamps Administrator

    First, Baylor is just really, really good this year. What made/makes them so good is that they are playing excellent defense to match their potent offense. Since most of us don't follow Baylor closely, it's worth noting that Baylor plays 7 seniors on defense. It's not like they have a defense filled with 5 star elite freshmen, they field a defense full of seasoned players, that have played a lot of football in the Big XII. They're good on defense because they know what they're doing and they have solid talent.

    As for the assertions that something is amiss in Waco, and there could be recruiting violations, I say nonsense. Briles has built that program, and if anyone has been paying attention, they would have seen that Baylor has been getting better every year. Briles, without question, has the best pipeline for recruiting Texas out of any coach in the conference. It's not hard to see how he lands his players from the state.

    People need to get over Baylor being the doormat, because that's not Baylor anymore. Yeah, they were once the joke of the conference. So was K-State. Things change, college football is cyclical.

    Now, the real question is how long can Baylor maintain this level of play? Briles isn't a spring chicken, and he's 99% of the reason BU has grown to where they are. Nonetheless, Baylor isn't going away anytime soon.

    Sorry to derail the thread.
  8. OU_Sooners75

    OU_Sooners75 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    No one is saying they are out to make bounty.

    But head hunting covers what the Baylor defense is doing. Tech did it a few years back.

    The head hunting stems from wanting and willing to make big hits when it isn't necessary on a defenseless player.

    They are all looking for highlight reel hits.

    Head hunting!
  9. FaninAma

    FaninAma SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    OU will never have the worst fans in the league as long as Baylor is around. Could they really not sell out their home games in their cracker box stadium during the the best season they have had in school history?

    I withheld judgement on Baylor's DBs after the OU game until I saw them doing the same thing in the TT game. We'll see what happens in the OSU game.

    Every concussion raises the risk for the next head injury to be even more severe. There is no excuse for a coaching staff or league to tolerate the way Baylo's thugs are head hunting. If it continues, Briles' reputation will crater quickly.
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  10. snydrosooner

    snydrosooner New Member

    I think the issue with us fans is we see adjustments in how almost every other team plays defense and have not seen it with Baylor ( at least on some hits). Most teams have backed off the big hits on the receivers. Most teams have gone to trying to wrap up a receiver and not running through them. Baylor seems to play like OU, UT, OSU did last year with no regard to trying to actually takle a receiver, just run through them ( lower shoulder and not wrap up.)

    I have a friend who is a high school official who is trying to get into the College ranks. He attended the Big 12 rules meeting during the summer. I will give a short desctiption on how they interpreted the rule at the rules meeting. -- Any contact to the upper part of the body(upper chest, shoulders, head) would contitute targeting if the deffender is not making a attempt at wrap up the reciever. -- This is also how the Oklahoma media was explaining it during the summer. (sports animal at least) Ok now each official may have different understanding of that rule, but that is how it was explained at the meeting. Now the play where the OU player was hurt, the defender hit shoulder to shoulder first, but no attempt was made to wrap up the defender as was noticiable with the contiinured arm action after the hit.

    Maybe the rule needs rewritten again, but the point of the new rule was to try to stop unnessary running through of players, I mean as lowering shoulder and not attempting to actually takle just knock down, which would lower the amount of helmet to helmet. And OU players have definitly been quilty of this in the past, but I have seen a change this year. Maybe we need to forget the rule as well.
  11. Sooner Sig Ep

    Sooner Sig Ep New Member


    ... And the hits just keep on coming!

    Interesting that Patterson is irritated with Dixon's actions AND demeanor He makes a point to say he's been doing that for years..... Just sayin'... It's not only OU fans that are upset.
  12. SicEmBaylor

    SicEmBaylor Baylor Ambassador

    Now, that one was clearly targeting by Dixon. No excuse at all, and that bull**** kiss-blowing as he was escorted to the locker room needs to be dealt with immediately. That was some bull****.

    However, that was the first clear targeting violation I've seen from us this year.
  13. King Barry's Back

    King Barry's Back New Member

    That makes sense, but I cheer for OU and against OkSt. Does that work?
  14. King Barry's Back

    King Barry's Back New Member

    SicEm -- Some advice to you, FWIW. You are a great poster on this board. You've been here for years and you should stand behind nobody on Soonerfans. That said, let's face it, Baylor's been the team to beat on OU's schedule since the end of last season. So for us, the whole season has been overshadowed by this big showdown that was looming in Waco. I was good with that. You've got a great coach who has built a good program, and Baylor deserves the success they are having. At the same time, Sooner fans (like other Big 12 fans) deep down in their bones have been hoping that Baylor wasn't really that good, and wasn't really going to give us a beat down. Well, you were good enough to give us a beat down, and now Big 12 fans are busy hoping that you are a flash in the pan this year, and that Briles is not some kind of magician that's going to keep winning.

    When Baylor was a cellar dweller, you were really welcomed on here. But now that you are a real threat, people are just going to be defensive. If you've noticed a change in attitude towards you, that's what it is.

    So, take the abuse as the compliment that it really is, and take the bad behavior as the price of playing big time football.
  15. Soonerjeepman

    Soonerjeepman SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    well. on top of that this is an SOONERS board...most every other team's posters will catch grief at some point. I would NEVER expect to post on any other teams' boards and not expect some crap...but again, a lot of folks don't like (jealous) OU and the success.

    btw..congrats on the great season you guys are having....but see the difference? OU is 1 game behind, yes a loss to you, but there are a lot of OU fans that think this season is...meh...not great.
  16. BoulderSooner79

    BoulderSooner79 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    How about if you attended more than one school? I went to OU and Stanford and pull for both. I like that they have a similar color scheme too.
  17. OU_Sooners75

    OU_Sooners75 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    I'm guessing it's clearly targeting because a coach points it out and not some fan?

    Dixon has been bad about the excessive hits, or targeting, all season.
  18. OU_Sooners75

    OU_Sooners75 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Oh please, that team Briles has is bought and paid for!
  19. SicEmBaylor

    SicEmBaylor Baylor Ambassador

    It's clearly targeting because you could sit and see that it was clearly targeting, the refs agreed, and so did the review guys.
  20. PalmBeachSooner

    PalmBeachSooner New Member

    I completely blame Phil Bennett.

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