Update on the TMZ crap

Leroy Lizard · Jun 16, 2010

Eielson said: ↑

Really?
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Yeah, he's pointing out that fans really like those sports their team is good at.

soonerboy_odanorth · Jun 16, 2010

thirty mile zone. Huh. Never knew that.

thought it was Ticks, Maggots, Zeitgeist....

yankee · Jun 16, 2010

cheezyq said: ↑

You must be either too young to know, or a complete ignoramus. First, this isn't the late 80s OU where drugs were being passed around in the locker room by the QB. OU's athletic department is nearly spotless these days.

But, cheating happens at all schools, particularly through boosters and others trying to take advantage of kids with "pro potential". Players who are less than ethical will be more than happy to accept illegal help from wherever it is available. Where OU runs into problems is that we have a LOT of overactive boosters trying to "help" the various programs in recruiting. When the player gets caught, OU gets run through the ringer. The difference between OU and SUC, however, is that as an organization OU cooperates with the investigations, trying to find out the truth, rather than actively trying to hide evidence.

Take Kelvin Sampson, who for whatever reason felt he didn't have to follow the rules after a fairly successful career. For most of his career at OU, he was a fine, and as far as we know, ethical coach. But HE decided to go against the rules. Then Bomar and Quinn. Yes, OU is responsible for the people it hires, but OU itself is not "cheating". It's unfortunate that OU has to take the lumps for the greed of a few unsavory individuals. But the reality is that OU SELF-REPORTED itself to the NCAA. Those individuals cheated, and OU was the one that paid.

Then idiots like yourself say you're ashamed of OU, when you REALLY should be proud that we follow the investigation guidelines, regardless of how it hurts us in the end.

As for NCAA vs. OU, think of the Mike Balogun case. Here is a guy who swears he was compliant and didn't play semi-pro after a certain age, allowing him to be eligible for another year in 2009. OU even went to the NCAA and got a confirmation that he was eligible. But, some vindictive a-hole at FSU gets the investigation re-opened because of some stupid commentators comment during the MNC game, and the NCAA finds an admittedly inaccurate roster list on the supremely trustworthy internet, and using THAT as their ONLY criteria, voila! Balogun is ruled ineligible.

That's not only unfair to OU, that's unfair to Balogun. I won't say that there is a national conspiracy by the NCAA to get OU where possible, but there is more than enough evidence to prove that given an opportunity to rule in OU's favor, the majority of the time, the NCAA will not. The NCAA is NOT a friend of OU. If you wish to know why, here is a history lesson:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=468&invol=85

http://www.law.berkeley.edu/faculty...Anthony Lee Regents-College Football-BCS.pdf

OU and Georgia were front-runners in the fight to get the TV contracts wrestled away from the NCAA's control. The NCAA was notoriously restrictive with which games appeared on TV and when. Now, look at the monster TV contracts (the Big 10/11 Network, the ESPN/SEC same sex marriage, etc.) and you'll quickly realize that the NCAA lost out on a LOT of money, all because of OU and its legal team. Now you know why the NCAA is NOT kind to OU, and probably never will be again.

The fact that UT fans have to be thankful to OU so that they can stare at their beloved sh*t-colored orange unis on Saturdays brings a bit of warmth to my heart.
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uh huh.

it's the NCAA that's out to get us, and us only.

somehow texas, despite all the run-ins with the law that they have, manage to avoid gigantic NCAA investigations. but it must be because the NCAA loves them right?

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