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Santorum: States Should Have The Right To Outlaw Birth Control

Discussion in 'TrumpFest 2016' started by Fraggle145, Jan 4, 2012.


  1. Fraggle145

    Fraggle145 Drunky Town Limnologist

    Thoughts? My first thought was that would be a whole lot more welfare babies, cervical cancer, and STDs.

     
  2. okie52

    okie52 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Put contraceptives in teenagers food and water.
     
  3. KantoSooner

    KantoSooner SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Santorum long ago crossed the line from being a pathetic fool to being a dangerous fascist.

    No one forces his wife or daughters to use birth control.

    What about the separation of his religion and public policy does he fail to grasp?
     
  4. Frozen Sooner

    Frozen Sooner Soon to be Memphibian

    That's not actually the issue. The issue is that states have no compelling interest in intruding in private relationships in that manner.
     
  5. Midtowner

    Midtowner New Member

    Anyone who wants to regulate what goes on in the bedroom and harms no one doesn't deserve serious consideration. Anyone who could justify that level of governmental intrusion can justify any amount of government intrusion in any situation. How hard is it to think that someone who believed the states could outlaw birth control could also support a 1984-esque Ministry of Love?
     
  6. KantoSooner

    KantoSooner SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Legal reasoning has it's place. But it is technical for a purpose and that is to make the process as demonstrably even handed as possible. From what little I remember from ConLaw, your reference to 'compelling interests' sounds about right or at least would be one productive line of precedent to argue.

    My argument has less to do with legality and more to do with the philosophical and practical needs to separate religious belief from politics and legislation in the name of preventing sectarian conflict.
     
  7. Bourbon St Sooner

    Bourbon St Sooner SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    What's the difference between outlawing birth control and outlawing marijuana?

    I don't think there would be one state out there looking to outlaw contraceptives. Look what happened with the Mississippi ballot measure.
     
  8. IBleedCrimson

    IBleedCrimson New Member

    I thought pubs wanted smaller govn't, not religious ppl forcing their special brand of nonsense down the throats of the citizenry.

    Can one party PLEASE be anything that remotely resembles rational?

    You got dems destroying every industry they stick their beak into then appeasing dangerous foreign enemies with nukes, pubs screaming for a smaller less intrusive goverment and then starting 2 wars and wishing they could create a christian utopia based on a book with stories of whales eating people and dead people becoming not dead...

    All while spending money we don't have to sabotage American strength and home and abroad!

    I WONDER WHY PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT AMERICAN APATHY!?
     
  9. okie52

    okie52 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    How can you be apathetic with the story lines you have just mentioned? Would be a great series.
     
  10. okie52

    okie52 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    I'm for no one having kids before their 21st birthday. I don't care if that is Orwellian or not. I'm not talking about abortions just contraceptive use. Not much good comes from teen pregnancies. People on welfare shouldn't be having kids either.
     
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  11. badger

    badger Vacuums eat while yelling

    Sure states can outlaw it... and watch as their citizens run across borders to get the medicine they cannot purchase within their own state.

    Why is there a porn video store just south of the Oklahoma border on I-35?

    Why are there so many casinos close to Oklahoma borders?

    Just taxing the issue wouldn't help either. Why else would elderly folks board buses to Mexico and Canada regularly to get cheaper prescriptions filled?
     
  12. okie52

    okie52 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Have you been into the porn video store on I-35?
     
  13. Midtowner

    Midtowner New Member

    I don't really see much room for a legal reason why the state could compel a woman to use birth control while simultaneously being forbidden from stopping an abortion.
     
  14. KantoSooner

    KantoSooner SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Post of the year, so far.
     
  15. East Coast Bias

    East Coast Bias Active Member

    Nice rant, Crimson. I like the part about whales eating people the best....
     
  16. IBleedCrimson

    IBleedCrimson New Member

    lol. It gets better! The guy lives for three days inside the whale, then hops back out.

    In this magic book which life is lived by, a super important dude tries to kill his kid because a bush talked inside his mind! And it was on FIRE!

    Constitution, move aside. We got it right 2000 years ago.

    So where do we turn in the face of this crazy? The Democrats! They fight for the poor and trampled. Except they also use an elaborate system of entitlements to forever enslave the same people they claim to help. And they throw around words like "Fair" to rape money away from success, when half the country doesn't even pay anything in taxes. In what alter-universe is that FAIR? Dictionary be damned, that word is dogma. The same idiots who do this also gave away our most powerful leverage against Russia, the European missile defense system, for.... wait for it... NOTHING IN RETURN! They look back at history, see how appeasement directly resulted in WWII and the Holocaust, and then double the amount of appeasement in their foreign policy. Well played good sirs!

    Do I vote for the wackjobs who think imaginary forces control the universe? Or the wackjobs who are systematically destroying the foundations that made this country great?

    Keep rockin that vote out, P Diddy.
     
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  17. badger

    badger Vacuums eat while yelling

    Nah, I just remember hearing about it the first time I crossed the Red River into enemy territory... they were all like "It has to be on this side of the border because it's not allowed in Oklahoma."

    It don't even remember what it's called
     
  18. Dale Ellis

    Dale Ellis New Member

    Wait, I thought liberals loved welfare babies???????


    Anyway, I would really like someone to provide me one documented case where the federal government or a state has impregnated and forced a woman to give birth to, and raise a child. When I hear this talk about "the federal government has not right to make a woman's reproductive choices for her" I ask my self "what woman has ever been forced, by the fed or a state government, to reproduce?"
    I've asked this question for years and to date, not one pro-choicer has been able to provided one documented case of this.
     
  19. SicEmBaylor

    SicEmBaylor Baylor Ambassador

    He's right. As much as I detest Santorum, this is clearly and should be a state issue.

    The problem is, Santorum has absolutely no intention of leaving it up to the states. He's a big government evangelist theocrat who will use the power of the Federal government to ensure that abortion is banned coast to coast.

    He's a lying son of a bitch.
     
  20. Dale Ellis

    Dale Ellis New Member

    Oh heaven forbid if he does, then some might have to practice a little self control.
     

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