Obama's church - Just thought this was interesting.

- OBL

So why aren't they at war with Sweden?

 

b/c swedish chicks are hot hot hot. and thats something that even a terrorist can appreciate.

 

not all swedish chicks are hot. i spent a week in copenhagen last year, and took a day trip to malmo, sweden and ate lunch and walked around. it was kinda cool, and the swedes have a neat accent. but man, the women arent all supermodels. one of them, blonde, blue eyes, had a nice huge mole on her cheek and i think it had a hair on it. it was too disturbing to look at. you know when you see something disturbing, and you cant help but to stare at it? well, this was beyond that and i couldnt really bear to look at it. i named it george.

 

No, you haven't said those words. But your screed is the same, just a different group. And if you take issue with my using ethnic groups, I've seen the same trash in reference to Catholics and Protestants and Muslims too. And various "heathen" religions too.

Your little rant is the same rant folks have used through the centuries to justify horrible, horrible things. You may not say 'krauts, 'nips, ******s, mics, reds, slant-eyes, Catholics, Protestants, ragheads, whatever -- but someone somewhere sometime has, with much the same little screed you spit out earlier.

So yeah, I've seen it before. Maybe not off of your lips (or posts, in this case), but anytime any group has tried to justify their inhuman behavior towards other people, I've seen it.

If I was trying to call you a racist, I'd come out and say it. I have no problems with calling a spade a spade. Here's the thing: I don't consider your "screed" to be racist. Oh, yes, it has racist elements, and if someone wanted to, they could call you that. They'd be missing something though.

It's not rooted in racism. Like I've said -- I've seen it before, every time someone has tried to justify inhuman behavior towards other people. The Nazis, the Soviets. Our own War Department in WWII, and our own forefathers in their treatment of the Native Americans and Africans. One African tribe against another. The Japanese against every 'gaijin' they come across. The Catholics and the Protestants and the Muslims for centuries and centuries. Rome and Carthage. Probably Pharoah, too.

It's a grand human tradition to demonize other humans so that we can feel better about ourselves when we do terrible things to them, and yeah, we'll use racism to that end, but it ain't rooted in racism.

So no, I'm not trying to call you racist. I'm just pointing out that your little screed is how humanity has justified its worst behavior throughout all of history.

 

Here's a quote from Rev. Wright's sermon. This includes the, "God damn America" line. I would like to ask my Christian brothers and sisters on this site to review it and tell me what it is you disagree with.

Thanks.

 

What's wrong with it? I think he hates his own country. Why not post the sermon where Rev. Wright says the government created AIDS to destroy black people? Can we talk about that one?


Can I play, too? What's wrong with this:

For 20 YEARS Obama was an active member and close associate of this "Black Theology" Church founded on the ideas of James Cone - founded on THESE ideas:


"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

~ James Cone, quoted in Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology, by William R. Jones in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, edited by Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).

And here's even more goodness and love from the Founder of Obama's "Black Theology" Religion, James Cone:

"For white people, God's reconciliation in Jesus Christ means that God has made black people a beautiful people; and if they are going to be in relationship with God, they must enter by means of their black brothers, who are a manifestation of God's presence on earth.
The assumption that one can know God without knowing blackness is the basic heresy of the white churches. They want God without blackness, Christ without obedience, love without death. What they fail to realize is that in Amereica, God's revelation on earth has always been black, red, or some other shocking shade, but never white.
Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man's depravity. God cannot be white even though white churches have portrayed him as white.
When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this country, we can see clearly what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers. To speak of Satan and his powers becomes not just a way of speaking but a fact of reality. When we can see a people who are controlled by an ideology of whiteness, then we know what reconciliation must mean.
The coming of Christ means a denial of what we thought we were. It means destroying the white devil in us. Reconciliation to God means that white people are prepared to deny themselves (whiteness), take up the cross (blackness) and follow Christ (black ghetto)."

~ James Cone, from Black Theology and Black Power, quoted in The Decline of African American Theology: From Biblical Faith to Cultural Captivity by Thabiti M. Anyabwile (Orbis), page 150.

THAT is the foundational doctrine of Obama's "Black Theology" Church.

Obama is a very quiet - yet very devoted adherent and follower of the most vile, bigotted hate-spewing radical racist GARBAGE of the lowest possible level. This guy needs to be exposed for what he and his wife really are - they believe in the HATRED of whites down to the very essence of their "religion".

ps- your canidate is unelectable now. But I'm sure the enlightened and reasonable here will still choose the Hildabeast over a true moderate like McCain, that is, if your party is smart enough to nominate her.

 

They used to call me White Jesus on the playgrounds of Chicago! I had some hops!

Not for nothing but, I really dislike to see so much politics in a so called Christain Sermon. I belonged to a Church in Cincinatti and it was Catholic and also very diverse. The black community in Cincinnatti I doubt would be ranting about white devil etc.

That same Catholic church was very instrumental in educational programs, finance management services and counseling. They did not ask for a dime and raised all the money in these programs- cleaned up one of the most crack riddled neighborhoods I have ever seen in about 10 years.

Same Cincinnati that had race riots - I grew up White in this neighborhood and 90% of my friends were in deed black. We lived in that shiate - non of us blame the other - but most of us did have a dislike for a lot of the white police- shoot first practices.

We were all involved in making sure some of those Socialist Left wingers were ousted from office - Joe Deters, Heimlich - those guys who prosecuted Larry Flint...

Race discrimination and Christianity- do not mix with me at all personally... They are not relevant to our respect & worship of god or Jesus Christ and our beliefs. It's not relevant

That church is for black power - calling it Christianity in any form is backwards...

 

Which of the accusations he makes is untrue? I don't think there's a government conspiracy to keep black people down (anymore), but what about the rest of it? Slavery, internment camps for the Japanese, scientific experiments, discrimination. Hell, we were only one step ahead of South Africa in giving blacks equal rights.

 

Maybe Pastor Wright should leave the country. We, as a country, are the scurge of the Earth.

We've only saved the world twice last century, sent trillions of dollars world wide to help the helpless, sent troops abroad to protect innocent people, etc, etc., etc.

I say REVOLUTION! Split the country up into pieces and let each separate group set up their own form of government. Then, those who practice the Second Amendment can reclaim and reunite the country.

This whole argument is inane. Some dip**** has a right to say what he said and said it. Obama is going to be a victim of the First Amendment.

 

Thanks for not being overly dramatic.

I just think that we as a society (and this is probably true in most cultures) have a tough time addressing our short comings and failures. When someone comes out (and in Rev. Wrights case does it in a overly dramatic fashion) and calls the U.S. out on its shortcomings it's quickly spun by the mainstream that he's a radical. Maybe the way he said it was radical, but what he said certainly wasn't.

 

You guys crack me up. The Hate America gang strikes again.

 

Wright is a hater. Admit it. He's no better than the Imperial Grand Wizard, or whatever they call the KKK big boy.

 

I really don't care what he says, I would just prefer he did it in a diferent forum as apposed to hiding behind christianity for people who are looking for that kind of leadership.

He might get me whacked for being christian - then what bear arms...

I don't mix my Porn and Jesus- I try not to mix my politics and Jesus as well, especially if it involves race discrimination or promotion.

There is a lot of injustice in the world - better free than speaking German or Japaneese. To involve Christianity in that is dangerous ..... we may have to go whoop some muslim arse.... and hope for an apology later.

Our short comings in those half truths are also now our biggest weakness - so to continue to act like we are not united in this America is still more dangerous for those of us who are now going to be leading it.

 

Exactly mojo. Good post.

 

Name one sinless nation or culture. Ask the Koreans and the Chinese how they were treated during Japanese occupation.

Slavery ended 145 years ago after a bloody civil war. It's not an issue today unless we're talking about reparations.

About the accusations, how 'bout the one where he accuses the U.S. Gov't of creating AID's to destroy black people?

And despite all of our past sins, I don't think we deserved 911. i.e., "Chickens coming home to roost."

I don't understand the rational behind defending Rev Wright. Are you defending what he said or why he said it?

 

Jerk,

Wasn't it former Reagan diplomat Edward Peck who coined that term in regards to 09/11?

 

I read something somewhere that claimed that at least one of his vitriolic sermons thats being played and replayed (I haven't actually listenend to any of them) that he was actually quoting Peck, and said so towards the end of his rant.

 

If that's the case, then Wright and Peck are both wrong.

 

Is Obama Muslim or Christian? Or Neither? Meh he definitely clearly believes himself to be black to even gain memership at that Church.

let's face it- Obama is probably niether - mostly just wanted to get a better understanding of the black community in total for his own political gain.

He has no real stance on the Iraq war because he wasn't senior enough to even attend the security briefings at the time.

Homie is talking about White this and White that- and black this and black that. Man I was born on the South Side - Wright is no diferent than any of the other Black Promoters- he should leave christianity out of it- especially if he thinks that 45 years of it is long enough to justify it.

Times change quicker these days - and that dude is a Bigot - through and through- but hey....

http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv

 

Since Obama is half white and chose a racist black church to be affiliated with, I have a question. What if he had chosen a racist white church and decided to run for Prez. Would he even be in the conversation right now?

Why is it politically correct to be a black racist and not a white racist?