Despite that, I really wouldn't do anything that might get you jailed over it. The CIA has feeds from several the European banking clearing houses -- including ones that handle transactions from the vaunted Swiss banks. Odds are, if they ever desired to jack you up, they could. With Obama at the helm, don't be surprised if it becomes a priority. I can't speak to Italy specifically, but I wouldn't bet jail time on it.
Apples and oranges my friend. The Nuremberg Proceedings were not conducted under the Geneva Convention. They were conducted pursuant to indictments handed down by the several Allied governments for war crimes and administered by an international court convened for the purpose. Now, as far as Nazi's go before the war ended, the eleven Nazi's buried at Ft. Leavenworth for crimes committed against their fellow prisonmers in US POW camps were tried and convicted by military tribunals and sentenced to hang, without the benefit of counsel. Military tribunals, or "drumhead courts martial" are well established and do not violate the Geneva Convention. A board of officers hear the evidence and make the call. The administration's position was, and probably remains, these jihaadis aren't uniformed combatants and therefore don't even rate the protections afforded by the Geneva Conventions. I happen to agree with that assessment, and I went to law school too. The Court disagreed, plus, they get the benefit of counsel, which is more than must be afforded under the Geneva Convention for bona fide enemy troops.
I just find it dangerous. I like having checks and balances. I also like getting a bad reputation just for not toting the liberal lines. what a joke.
Worked with a lady who was divorced and had 3 kids. She received checks every month for the kids. The problem was, the daddy still lived with her. So she was getting money every month for basically no reason. One month she was shorted on the amount she normally got and went into a fit about it. I guess everyone is honest out in LA huh?
You got a bad reputation for posting stupid crap, Troll. BTW, which REAL poster are you? I like how your spek went from deep red to green in one post.
I understand the argument against the detainees having defense as it relates to the Geneva Convention. You made the point that Bush hasn't circumvented the desire of the court system, to that I ask, who is KSM's attorney that he is entitled? The answer is that there is none. The legal status of those in Gitmo isn't what's being debated, it's whether or not the Bush administration has followed the will of the court system, to which I would say they have not.
Don't know, don't really care about this spek thing. You and I just have differing opinions on the role of government. Let's both be adults and lose the name calling though, deal?
I've been at work since I posted this, and I'm going through this thread and seeing what I've expected. Here you have in your face evidence that Obama is, at best, AT BEST, a socialist. But if you look at all of the little things, and put everything together, the man could very well be a communist revolutionary who doesn't believe in our Constitution and believes that the ends justifies the means. There's nothing crazy about this assumption..it's right there for you to see and hear. Here you have a simple choice: A man who is probably a Marxist, or a moderate republican who will inherent a democrat congress. If Obama wins, it will be the marriage of American liberalism and communism and the two will be inseperably tied. This Obama fellow ain't bubba Clinton (moderate liberal). He's an ideologue driven by a far left agenda that has the potential to start a civil war if he pushes it hard enough. These ideas that Obama talks about are the kind of thing which could cause the seperation of America into two: "Jesusland" and "Western France." Is he just going to redistribute wealth through income taxes? What about land and reality? Wealth? 401k's? Pensions? I suppose this will be enforced by that domestic army he wants that is "just as well funded as the military." Buy ammo and lots of it.
If necessary, I'll move to the capital of Jesusland. If the choice is between that and western France, duh.
Oh, and for those of you who think I've gone of the deep end about his domestic security force: You cannot redistribute wealth on the scale he wants without a little muscle. [/FONT]
Dear Conservative Posters, In your haste to support Bush, you permitted him to concentrate power in the executive. Some of you even supported doing away with the filibuster. I tried to warn you that this was a bad idea. Now you see why. Try to remember it the next time conservatives are in control. Sincerely, Vaevictis
