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Alabama's left tackle...

Discussion in 'Sooner Football' started by dwarthog, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. BoulderSooner79

    BoulderSooner79 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Just watched the video replay of the sack/fumble and Striker definitely was not impeded by the jersey pull. The jersey didn't really extend until Striker had already hit McCarron. I don't think many refs would have thrown the flag in that situation.
  2. Aries

    Aries Active Member

    Personally, I thought the officiating was pretty good. I didn't notice a lot of holding, but it's the kind of thing I usually don't see until it's pointed out on replay.

    I only saw 3 calls I thought were wrong (actually 2 non-calls, and 1 bad call)

    #1) We should have been called for defensive holding on McCarron's first interception.
    #2) We should have been called for Striker taking his helmet off
    #3) The "throat-slash" should not have been called

    I have nothing to complain about regarding officiating.
  3. okiewaker

    okiewaker New Member

    I thot Bam O line was as good as the 90's D Cowboy O line, or so we've been made to believe. Apparently they were overhyped a little. OU D line and backers THRASHED the opposition.
  4. Snrinhouston

    Snrinhouston Active Member

    Yep, I did too. The ref blew that call. However "upon further review" I realized that is just further proof of the utility of doing a "Sanders". If you just give the ball to the ref and go slap hands with teammates, then you leave very little for a ref to misinterpret.

    This episode is great material for coaches (and I'm sure Stoops will use it) to emphasize the importance of (again to borrow from Sanders) acting like you've been there (the end zone) before.
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2014
  5. Mjcpr

    Mjcpr SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Isn't he projected as a high draft pick? If you're playing LT at Alabama these dsys, I'm thinking yes but he got schooled last night.
  6. hawaii 5-0

    hawaii 5-0 Well-Known Member

    I don't buy the "didn't impede the progress" theory.

    Suppose Striker was held, but wasn't impeded, McCarron somehow eluded the sack and threw a TD?

    I know holding takes place alot, pretty much on every down, but......

    Holding is holding and should be called if seen.

    Otherwise, change the rules.

    BTW, I also believe if a player's helmet is pulled off, or comes off during play where there is no slowdown of play due to a broken chinstrap, the player should not have to exit for one play. JMO.

  7. bluedogok

    bluedogok SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    There was one play where Tapper pretty much got undressed by the right tackle (and no call), coming off the sideline it almost looked like an old tear away jersey or the hockey fight sweater pull.
  8. jkm  the stolen pifwafwi

    jkm the stolen pifwafwi SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    The rule has been there forever. The most notorious non-call was 2000 @KState where they had our guy by the horse collar and wouldn't let him get to the QB. They picked up the flag saying his progress wasn't impeded.
  9. BoulderSooner79

    BoulderSooner79 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    If he's not impeded he's not held. That's the way I've always seen it called and the refs must be consistent in how they call things. If they call every "attempted hold" which is what this was, there would be a flag every play. If the LT tries to hold back Striker, but Striker is still moving at full speed and McCarron escapes, so be it. Still not a hold. Just a phailed hold.
  10. jkm  the stolen pifwafwi

    jkm the stolen pifwafwi SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    He was projected top 20, but he doesn't have the feet or hands for tackle at the next level. He consistently let Stryker get to his body at 215 lbs. Imagine what Von Miller or some other rush specialist is going to do at 275 lbs with the same speed. I think he'll probably drop to late 1st round and be projected as a guard. Both he and his brother were bulls out there in the run game.
  11. RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

    RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    They def made some goofs, but they SEEMED fair. Our guys didn't appear to let bad calls against them bother them at all. As it should be.
  12. instigator

    instigator SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Awesome read. Thanks for finding that.
  13. Okie35

    Okie35 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Cyrus is a stand up guy and he has a high nFl grade.. He's supposedly going to be the first tackle drafted... It says a lot about Striker
  14. BoulderSooner79

    BoulderSooner79 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Indeed. But it can be a different kind of mismatch when the players are so different in size. If the size difference is small, the bigger guy may maul the little if he has good technique. If the size difference is huge, the little guy may be too quick for the big guy. I don't think Phil Loadholt was a high draft pick (someone correct me), but he started in the NFL as a rookie. In OUr bowl game against WVU, he got owned by a small, fast guy that went around him like he wasn't there.
  15. Aries

    Aries Active Member

    Loadholt was drafted in the 2nd round, 54th overall pick.
  16. picasso

    picasso SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Who cares about Striker taking his helmet off? That was a makeup call for the goof on the Sterling Shep Penalty.
  17. BoulderSooner79

    BoulderSooner79 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    That's high. And the undersized WVU DE made him look really bad with his speed, just like Striker did to 71 on Thurs.
  18. IronHorseSooner

    IronHorseSooner New Member

    Striker is probably closer to 220, and will probably play at 225 next year. If he can do that and keep his speed, he will go in the draft. Keenan Clayton went at 227, and whereas he was good, Striker is better.
  19. fadada1

    fadada1 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    So if we're not calling holding when someone's progress hasn't been impeded, are we going to take away catches if the receiver was interfered with, or allow plays to continue on false starts, or.......... .?????

    That's a BS argument if there ever was one. Say Striker doesn't get that sack and cause the fumble, but bama scores a TD on that play. Now you've got a tie game with a blatant missed call that causes OT.

    A hold is a hold.
  20. BoulderSooner79

    BoulderSooner79 SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Dude, if you want to watch the *video* of that play and claim the refs missed a hold, then be my guest. IMO, the ref called that the way I'm used to it being (non) called and consistency in how things are called is critical. So if Bama scored on the next play, it would be because they earned, not because of a missed call. Besides, if Striker doesn't strike(heh) the QB, that extended jersey *would* become and obvious hold right in front of the ref. In the *video* the jersey is not visibly extended until the impact with McCarron at which point the refs eyes are naturally on the ball and who is going to recover. If McCarron steps up and avoids contact, the ref is still watching the OL and sees an extended jersey. Fortunately, we'll never know. I'll just say the still shot doesn't tell the story and watching the video, if I'm the ref, I'm not seeing anything.

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