Elizabeth Warren doesn't think Boston Bomber should get death penalty

this says we win both:

http://www.prisonstudies.org/highest-to-lowest/prison-population-total?field_region_taxonomy_tid=All

not sure how old the data is though

 

I used to be a huge advocate in the death penalty, despite the fact that I'm pretty liberal otherwise. Nowadays, I'm more of an advocate of life without the possibility of parole, with consecutive sentences.

 

I must have lost my mind since I have been away, agreeing with OleVet on something political.

 

Damn. We agree except for that last part. "Very seldom" may be accurate. However, while even once is very, very seldom it is one too many times. Our country has killed innocent people. I have a problem with that. Especially given the fact that some science (i.e. DNA) is getting better and better.

 

Death does that.

 

Hah...so you want him "tortured" by living his life behind bars?

Gitmos really not so bad after all?

 

I'm ambivalent on Gitmo. That's not related to this. Solitary for 80 years would have been a great punishment.

 

Agreed. Even extremely seldom (which I believe) is enough to give me pause given there is a life sentence alternative.

And then there are states I won't mention (Oklahoma) that even botch the procedure itself. Can't find the vein, get the wrong drugs or in the wrong dose, etc. (Didn't this happen fairly recently?). Many states still have the DP on the books, but have given up on using it due to all the issues involved.

 

Put firing squads back on the books.

 

But its not really rehabilitation, is it?

 

Never understood the "issue" factor. If ya kilt him, then it worked...right?

 

Well he did have 45 minutes of "torture".

 

Kind of hard to argue against...

 

Curious to see if the gassing execution bill get's passed.

 

Yes, but then it gets into the cruel and unusual punishment clause - have to follow your own laws. I'm not morally opposed to the DP, but it just seems to be more hassle than it's worth for the tiny percentage of cases involved. Of course those cases are generally high profile, so it has infotainment value if one considers that real value.

 

Just clarifying the facts Bro.

 

You need to review what China did and does to drug dealers in that country. That's why they don't have a drug problem and the resultant prison population problems related to that. My advice to you if you go to China is DO NOT GET CAUGHT WITH DRUGS.

http://theaustralianheroindiaries.blogspot.com/2009/06/mass-executions-how-china-celebrates.html

 

Well Girl you Have to be Right every now and then!:drunk:

 

It did.

 

Fallen signed it?