View Full Version : Can someone explain this to me?
stoopified
9/20/2007, 11:18 AM
I saw where Sam Bradford had slipped from #! in the Nation in passing efficency to third and I thought well someone had a really good game this week.Then I checked the stats and I don't get it.Listed below are the passing stats of Teel(Clemson),Tebow (UF),Bradford(OU):
Teel 38-57-1 int.-8TDs-863 yards-66.7%
Tebow 45-61-1int-8TDs-835 yards-73.8 %
Bradford 59-74-1int-11TDs-823 yards-79.7%
Bradford has a better completion % than both,and a signifigantly better TD-int. ratio.They both have thrown for a few more yards(40 for Teel,12 for Tebow),Can that make the difference?The only thing else I can see is Bradford has thrown more passes,however since he is also completing a higher % I would think it would even out.
I know in the big picture it makes no difference,as long as we win, stiillI don't get it.
Paperclip
9/20/2007, 11:20 AM
http://football.stassen.com/pass-eff/
hurricane'bone
9/20/2007, 11:22 AM
((Y x 8.4) + (T x 330) - (I x 200) + (C x 100)) / A
yermom
9/20/2007, 11:29 AM
the big difference is the yards per attempt
BermudaSooner
9/20/2007, 11:34 AM
the big difference is the yards per attempt
Yep, it is all about yards per attempt.
VolinArizona
9/20/2007, 11:44 AM
And TDs/attempt
stoopified
9/20/2007, 12:04 PM
Thanks for the info.Doesn't seem to me that a 2 or 4yard per attemt difference (respectively) should make that big a difference in rankings.As for TD production ,Bradford throws a TD once every 6.7 attempts,Tebow a TD every 7.6 attempts.Teel,a TD every 7.1. Interception avoidance(or rate of interceptions thrown) should figure in there somewhere )Sam throws a pick once every 74 attempts.Teel is at one in every 57,Tebow one in every 61.I guess the system is what it is but is flawed IMHO.In any case I think third is pretty doggone impressive.
yermom
9/20/2007, 12:28 PM
it's the W/L that i care more about ;)
tommieharris91
9/20/2007, 01:00 PM
Thanks for the info.Doesn't seem to me that a 2 or 4yard per attemt difference (respectively) should make that big a difference in rankings.As for TD production ,Bradford throws a TD once every 6.7 attempts,Tebow a TD every 7.6 attempts.Teel,a TD every 7.1. Interception avoidance(or rate of interceptions thrown) should figure in there somewhere )Sam throws a pick once every 74 attempts.Teel is at one in every 57,Tebow one in every 61.I guess the system is what it is but is flawed IMHO.In any case I think third is pretty doggone impressive.
Would you like a guy who throws for 4 yards per pass attempt, 6 yds per pass, or 8 yds per pass?
EDIT: Continuing, whose averages would you rather have?
15.14 yds/att (Teel, Rutgers)
13.69 yds/att (Tebow, Florida)
11.12 yds/att (Bradford, Oklahoma)
I really wouldn't trade Bradford for Teel right now, but Bradford vs. Tebow is a very tough debate. Besides, simply basing QB play only on yds/att is pretty silly.
silverwheels
9/20/2007, 01:02 PM
Teel plays for Rutgers, BTW.
oupride
9/20/2007, 01:34 PM
Would you like a guy who throws for 4 yards per pass attempt, 6 yds per pass, or 8 yds per pass?
I'll be back later.
Don't forget Bradford would have over 1,000 yards if he had played full games instead of leaving early in the blow-outs!
stoopified
9/20/2007, 01:44 PM
Would you like a guy who throws for 4 yards per pass attempt, 6 yds per pass, or 8 yds per pass?
I'll be back later.We are talking about 11,13,15 actually not 4,6,8.
I also think td-int ratio should be a bigger factor.
tommieharris91
9/20/2007, 01:46 PM
Don't forget Bradford would have over 1,000 yards if he had played full games instead of leaving early in the blow-outs!
And about 20-40 more attempts.
tommieharris91
9/20/2007, 01:47 PM
I also think td-int ratio should be a bigger factor.
INTs should be weighted more, I agree.
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