Mack Brown runs a tight ship.

[Rhino]

:mack: Add one more to the All-Character Team.

Another UT Football Player Arrested (http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?S=7091356)
Sep 18, 2007 09:37 AM

Another University of Texas football player is in trouble with the law. Sophomore running back James Henry, 19, was arrested overnight.

Henry is in jail on two charges: obstruction or retaliation and tampering or fabricating physical evidence. Both offenses are third-degree felonies.

He is being held on a $30,000 bond.

Henry is the 11th UT player, or former player, arrested since the national championship in January 2006.

[Dio]

Book em whorns!

[SoonerEmpire]

Maybe when Larry Coker got fired, most of the Miami players got upset, changed their names, and transferred to texass?

[Widescreen]

What the fudge is going on down there?

[Landthief 1972]

What the fudge is going on down there?

They are no longer swayed into submission by Vince's head panty and translucent pants.

[CatfishSooner]

wow...they might not have a team left to play us by the RRS

[RiddlerOK]

God forbid that happens! We need someone to show up so that our strength of schedule will stay just above the national ranking of Notre Dame's offense. :)

[Ash]

So much for Mack getting the cream of the crop of Texas high school players. They might have stars by their names, but clearly he's not screening for character.

[freshchris05]

They are no longer swayed into submission by Vince's head panty and translucent pants.


oh god... texas needs to do something about those. i was watching the ucf game and it started raining and it was hard to watch...

[schlanker]

Are there any lawyers out there that can give insite to what that means? A 30K bond is no joke. Whatever this kid did must be pretty bad.

Thanks in advance.

[85Sooner]

i SWEAR HORNFANS IS DOWN MORE THAN ITS UP.

[freshchris05]

i SWEAR HORNFANS IS DOWN MORE THAN ITS UP.


iViva! Viagra!

[SoonerFlower]

Someone reset the arrest counter. I think we only went about four days without a Horn in jail this go round. Who wins this week's pool?

[Dr. Jelly Finger]

How far back are the Whorns in the Fulmer Cup? They have to be making up some ground after the past few weeks........

Heh.

[Position Limit]

mack brown is such a fraud. it is too funny how he's able to use smoke and mirrors to fool the legions of naive horn dip****s. it's starting to catch up with him now. lol. me thinks the bonghorn season is on the brink of disaster. very possible 6 to 7 win season, several more arrest and a ncaa investigation to boot. get ready to enjoy the show. vince young is no longer head coach of that team, and they are in for a very rough ride for the next few years. after they lose to ksu then get waxed by us, that team will mail it in for the season. everybody will tee off on them. it's going to be fun to watch.

[Theskipster]

Are there any lawyers out there that can give insite to what that means? A 30K bond is no joke. Whatever this kid did must be pretty bad.

Thanks in advance.

Looks like it is MUCH worse than first thought.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/091907dnspoutlede.e73cc35b.html



According to police, Henry admitted to Joseph in a taped jailhouse phone conversation to assaulting one of the victims and disposing of a backpack containing stolen items in the alleged July robbery.

[Doged]

That would all be fun to see except the NCAA part. I don't wish those a-holes on anyone.. even the whornes.

[starclassic tama]

lack of institutional control anyone?

[Frozen Sooner]

lack of institutional control anyone?

This is not what "lack of institutional control" mean.

The NCAA definition of institutional control is that a member school must have adequate policies and procedures in place to detect and deal with NCAA rules violations. If no such policies and procedures are in place or if the member school does not show willingness to follow their policies and procedures, then a "lack of institutional control" finding may be made. Since players committing crimes does not typically fall under the rubric of NCAA violations, no such finding would be appropriate here.

Common misunderstanding.

[RedStripe]

Henry was once commited to us, the switched to jailbird U.

In reality though I think Stoops pulled his ship because he knew he was trouble. ;)

[SoonerEmpire]

If things keep going the way they are down in Austin at this pace, it won't be long before Mack Brown gets crucified in front of the press and gets his butt canned just like Switzer. Oh wait, he wasn't fired. They FORCED his so-called "resignation." I think what will be key is how Mack and the University continues to deal with these situations that determines if and what consequences they may or not face.

That's too bad. While I would normally be ecstatic over this happening to the whorns, if it eventually happens, they might actually find a replacement who can actually COACH... not just recruit. On the upside of that, if the NCAA smacks them down anywhere near as bad as they did to us in the late 80's, good coach or no good coach, they won't win for years!

After what happened to OU, I never thought the NCAA would ever come down on a program again as hard as they did on OU and SMU back in the day. I'm still not sure that they will ever do that again. But texass is certainly testing that idea.

texass: Absolutely pathetic!

[toast]

from a ut fan on the rivals board:

"At least we're leading the country in something." ;)

[cjames317]

So, no more "No Horn Talk on Tuesday"?

[kevpks]

wow...they might not have a team left to play us by the RRS

Oh don't worry, he just reinstated a few the other day. Those ankle bracelets might slow them down though.

[GreaterState]

Not sure there's any way to say this without ****ing everyone off, but -- there's really nothing quite like seeing OU fans gloating about another team's character issues. :rolleyes:

In college football, isn't that like saying "We have an assistant coach and helmets!" "Oh, we, too, have an assistant coach and helmets! Take that!"

For what it's worth I don't go sprinting off to Hornfans or anywhere else to post madly about when the Sooners vacate a seasonful of wins. I enjoy it -- but getting smug about it seems like something that comes back to bite ya.

Just interesting how many fans on any side seem a little hypocritical about the whole thing ...

Neg away

:texan:

[SoonerRecon]

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2007/09/18/longhorn_james.html

read the quotes, pure entertainment

[kevpks]

Not sure there's any way to say this without ****ing everyone off, but -- there's really nothing quite like seeing OU fans gloating about another team's character issues. :rolleyes:

In college football, isn't that like saying "We have an assistant coach and helmets!" "Oh, we, too, have an assistant coach and helmets! Take that!"

For what it's worth I don't go sprinting off to Hornfans or anywhere else to post madly about when the Sooners vacate a seasonful of wins. I enjoy it -- but getting smug about it seems like something that comes back to bite ya.

Just interesting how many fans on any side seem a little hypocritical about the whole thing ...

Neg away

:texan:

Yes but I don't think Bomar or any other Sooner in recent memory had multiple felonies. It is pretty funny the "lack of institutional control" label doesn't get attached to teams whose rap sheet rivals their media guide in length.

[OKC-SLC]

Not sure there's any way to say this without ****ing everyone off, but -- there's really nothing quite like seeing OU fans gloating about another team's character issues. :rolleyes:

In college football, isn't that like saying "We have an assistant coach and helmets!" "Oh, we, too, have an assistant coach and helmets! Take that!"

For what it's worth I don't go sprinting off to Hornfans or anywhere else to post madly about when the Sooners vacate a seasonful of wins. I enjoy it -- but getting smug about it seems like something that comes back to bite ya.

Just interesting how many fans on any side seem a little hypocritical about the whole thing ...

Neg away

:texan:
To even come over here and act like UT fans weren't the most common form of scum found here in the weeks after the BRSI fiasco is laughable.

Get off your damn high horse. Texas players are in trouble with the law on a weekly basis, and the hypocrisy teeming from your coming here acting high and mighty is ankle deep and starting to **** up my shoes.

**** off.

[tommieharris91]

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2007/09/18/longhorn_james.html

read the quotes, pure entertainment

Is this even a real article?

The longhorns are starting to make the Cincinnati Bengals look like angels.

[Dio]

Not sure there's any way to say this without ****ing everyone off, but -- there's really nothing quite like seeing OU fans gloating about another team's character issues. :rolleyes:

In college football, isn't that like saying "We have an assistant coach and helmets!" "Oh, we, too, have an assistant coach and helmets! Take that!"

For what it's worth I don't go sprinting off to Hornfans or anywhere else to post madly about when the Sooners vacate a seasonful of wins. I enjoy it -- but getting smug about it seems like something that comes back to bite ya.

Just interesting how many fans on any side seem a little hypocritical about the whole thing ...

Neg away

:texan:

Yeah, because NO texass fan had ANYTHING to say about the Bomar mess...:rolleyes:

[TMcGee86]

“Bitches deserve to get kicked, so that’s what I am going to do!”

Well... I mean, you can't argue with his logic. ;)

[Partial Qualifier]

I don't want to EVER hear from another ****ing Longhorn how their program is all about "character" and all that ****. This is getting beyond funny.. it's almost embarrassing that they're in the same conference as us. Jesus, what a buch of thug convicts!

edit: thanks for the quick-merge, mods :) I scanned for similiar threads but this didn't catch my eye

[Frozen Sooner]

I don't want to EVER hear from another ****ing Longhorn how their program is all about "character" and all that ****. This is getting beyond funny.. it's almost embarrassing that they're in the same conference as us. Jesus, what a buch of thug convicts!

edit: thanks for the quick-merge, mods :) I scanned for similiar threads but this didn't catch my eye

I'm fast on the trigger. That's what the ladies say.

:D

[OUDoc]

Apparently someone's not clapping hard enough.

[douxpaysan]

So, no more "No Horn Talk on Tuesday"?
Hey try to keep up, this being a "short" week, this is actually wednesday.:D

[Partial Qualifier]

Umm Longhorn.. this isn't really comparable anymore. ELEVEN ARRESTS.. in the last YEAR?? Sorry, you're on your own with that one.

[Whet]

Here is a little more from ESPN:


AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=251) freshman running back James Henry (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=183432) has been charged with two felony counts of obstruction and tampering with evidence, making him the sixth Longhorns player arrested since June.
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0918/ncf_a_henry_195.jpg AP Photo/Austin Police Dept.
Texas freshmman James Henry, shown in an Austin Police mug shot, is the sixth Longhorn to be arrested since June. Henry, who was arrested Monday, is accused of beating up one of the victims of a July home invasion that allegedly involved two other players, Andre Jones and Robert Joseph. Henry was booked into Travis County Jail where his bail was set at $30,000. He was suspended indefinitely from the team, coach Mack Brown said Tuesday.

Henry, who redshirted last season, has played in two games on special teams for the No. 7 Longhorns (3-0).

Austin police learned of Henry's involvement by listening to taped recordings of Joseph's phone calls from jail, said Det. Anthony Bigongiari. During the investigation of the robbery, one of the victims told police that some of Joseph's friends had assaulted them. In one of the taped phone calls, Henry said he "went over there and whupped" one of the victims, who told police they were thrown on the ground and punching and kicked in the head several times, Bigongiari said.

Henry, who did not participate in the robbery, was charged with tampering because police believe he disposed of a backpack containing items stolen in the home invasion, Bigongiari said.

Police also charged a third person, Eddie Ramirez, who is not a football player, with threatening the victims.
Brown said Henry would have been suspended earlier if the team had known the latest allegations.

"It's unfortunate that we have just been informed of the situation or we would have been able to address it when it allegedly occurred in July," Brown said.

Henry's arrest is the latest trouble for a program reeling under a string of arrests. On Monday, Brown reinstated linebacker Sergio Kindle and defensive end Henry Melton, who had been suspended for the first three games because of drunken driving arrests over the summer.

Last week, senior safety Tyrell Gatewood was suspended indefinitely after his arrest on drug charges. Freshman defensive back Ben Wells, who was riding with Gatewood when he was pulled over, was given a citation for possession of drug paraphernalia and released.

Jones remains suspended from the team. Joseph had already left the team before his July arrest because of an earlier incident.

Brown said he is disappointed that the arrests have embarrassed the program but challenged the notion that Texas is riddled with problems.

"Young people who do not obey the law, university or team rules will continue to be disciplined with a stern hand and we will move forward. We continue to have a zero tolerance policy in that regard," Brown said. "I will put our long-term record of character up against anyone, and that's why these situations upset me so much."

[douxpaysan]

Henry was once commited to us, the switched to jailbird U.

In reality though I think Stoops pulled his ship because he knew he was trouble. ;)
I think Henry was an OK kid until he started associating with known felons i.e. whorns:pop:

[Louisiana Husker]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9792/tu2iconht6.jpg

[NS5]

Easy transition: from Orange to Orange, no studying required.

[Fraggle145]

How far back are the Whorns in the Fulmer Cup? They have to be making up some ground after the past few weeks........

Heh.

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?p=3864

Crook 'em Horns

[Whet]

How did this guy get passed over by Mack?


Montana CB Wilson charged in shooting death of aunt's boyfriend
Associated Press

LANCASTER, Calif. -- Suspended University of Montana cornerback Jimmy Wilson pleaded not guilty Monday to a murder charge stemming from the shooting death of his aunt's 29-year-old boyfriend. Wilson is charged in the June 3 shooting death of Kevin I. Smoot in Lancaster, about 75 miles northeast of Los Angeles. The player also faces a special allegation that he personally and intentionally discharged a rifle. Wilson's aunt and Smoot had been fighting the night Smoot was shot, authorities said. Wilson, of Pasadena, remained in custody in a Los Angeles jail on $2 million bail. He is scheduled to appear in court again for a pretrial hearing on Sept. 27. Wilson surrendered to California authorities on June 12 and was suspended from the Montana football team a few days later.

[freshchris05]

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?p=3864




hahaha... damn... grove street families for life..

[Sooner Eclipse]

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2007/09/18/longhorn_james.html

read the quotes, pure entertainment

Someones comments on the blog after the article:

By Doug

September 18, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

1. What do you call a drug ring in Austin? A huddle.

2. Four UT Longhorns in a car, who's driving? The police.

3. The UT Longhorns have adopted a new "Honor System". Yes your
Honor, No your Honor.

4. The UT Longhorns knew they had to do something for their defense,
so they hired a new defensive coordinator: F. Lee Bailey.

5. How do the UT Longhorns spend their first week at fall practice?
Studying their Miranda Rights.

6. What do you say to a Longhorn in a suit? Will the defendant
please rise?

7. If you see Longhorn football player on a bike, why don't you
swerve to hit him? It might be your bike!

8. The Longhorns employ scouts. But to look out for cops, not to
scout high school kids.

9. I heard a rumor that the Texas Department of Corrections plans to
build a new prison in Austin, Texas in order to allow Longhorns to
walk to school.

10. What do you call it, when a Longhorn goes on vacation? Time off
for good behavior.

11. Why couldn't the Longhorn get into a huddle on the football
field? It's a parole violation to associate with known felons.

12. Obviously Coach Mack Brown is not paying his players if they
have to resort to robbing people.

13. Book 'em, Horns!

#4 may become a new Sig - Defensive Coordinator = F. Lee Bailey. Classic :texan:

[cheezyq]

If this keeps going Texas is going to have to abdicate it's membership in the Big XII and join the Texas Penal League. I'm not sure Mack could out-coach the warden for the Travis County State Jail Prison Guards, though. I hear they've got a pretty tough team.

[Jacie]

LMAO over this one. As fans, the whorns lead the way in being sanctimonious, arrogant s.o.b.'s, with apologies to the saxet fans who regularly post here and do so because they discuss football, not pepper us with the height of wisdom displayed on whorn-homer boards, "OU sucks". But for those lurkers who have fewer posts than I do on this board, bwahahahahahahahahaha!

[TexasLidig8r]

It's the media's fault!

And ESPN hates us and is running a smear campaign!

And, it's just a few boys out having fun! Hell who amongst us has not engaged in a little gun and weed play!

And.. the NCAA is actually behind all this!

And.. oh by the way...


Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did.

But you can't hold a whole team responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole athletic system? And if the whole athletic system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society?

Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

[soonerloyal]

As I usually do, I find nothing to laugh about or gloat over when I see another young man hurt himself and limit his future. As a mother, it breaks my heart to see these things happen. I guess seeing my sons' faces as they came back from combat in Iraq helped put things in real perspective for me. This is a game, these are our children. No taunting from this corner, for damn sure.

P.S. GreaterState, you kiss my a**. Hard.

[SoonerRecon]

can someone please print off tshirts and sell them at the cotton bowl, somehow incorporating the phrase 'bitches deserve to be kicked'

[GreaterState]

As I usually do, I find nothing to laugh about or gloat over when I see another young man hurt himself and limit his future. As a mother, it breaks my heart to see these things happen. I guess seeing my sons' faces as they came back from combat in Iraq helped put things in real perspective for me. This is a game, these are our children. No taunting from this corner, for damn sure.

P.S. GreaterState, you kiss my a**. Hard.

If you're not gloating, you can see my comments weren't pointed at you anyway.

P.S. in case you're wondering, I feel like many other Horns do: This is embarrassing, and canning and suspending individuals (while the right thing to do) only goes so far before we're waiting for Mack to deliver more of a group smackdown. It hasn't been enough for me yet.

Sure don't need the team unfocused with the RRS getting closer and closer.

[soonerloyal]

All right then. Just remember that not all Sooner fans enjoy things like this, ok?

We enjoy seeing y'all lose to us, of course. Most of us just keep the real stuff in perspective.

Good to go. *thumbs up*

[freshchris05]

Well, it's not like I love reading all this about UT players in trouble. I mean I have relatives in Austin, I don't want them to get shot... haha jk but seriously, "Bitches deserve to get kicked" how can you not laugh at that...

[1890MilesToNorman]

The players should be housed in cell blocks, not a dormatory. Burnt Orange jumpsuits as uniforms would be fitting as well.

[Jacie]

This is rich. The spin on this latest arrest is that it was for an incident that happened two months ago for which two other players were already arrested. Therefore, all three of those should only count as one.

Seems to me they are missing the point. The kid in question was charged with committing a crime after the actions of the other two.

[KantoSooner]

can someone please print off tshirts and sell them at the cotton bowl, somehow incorporating the phrase 'bitches deserve to be kicked'



run the quote, with attribution and date.
Then the game score line
Then the word: "Done."

I'm thinking Crimson lettering on a white shirt.......

[josh09]

HA! They keep rolling in!

[Leroy Lizard]

"Young people who do not obey the law, university or team rules will continue to be disciplined with a stern hand and we will move forward. We continue to have a zero tolerance policy in that regard," Brown said.

I'm no Brown basher, but his treatment of the Brock Edwards fiasco was hardly "no tolerance."

[Leroy Lizard]

omitted

[Leroy Lizard]

Police say that Joseph called Henry the next day from jail, and their conversation was recorded. In that call, police say, Henry told Joseph that he’d gone to the scene of the robbery and confronted witnesses. “I went over there and whooped all them niggas last night, fool,” Henry is quoted as saying in the recording, according to the arrest affidavit.

Henry sounds like someone attending an institution of higher learning.

[utex74]

Henry was once commited to us, the switched to jailbird U.

In reality though I think Stoops pulled his ship because he knew he was trouble. ;)

Right. :rolleyes:

[utex74]

OK. Fair is fair. We tossed it at you and now is the perfect payback time. No problem. If there is a good side it is that this MAY get Jones, arrested for this stuff last July, exonerated. The APD may have arrested him when Henry was the guy. Small satisfaction.

Can't say a thing other than that. The myspace page is an embarassement and I don't understand why those aren't monitored. This is painful but, as much as you might like to think otherwise, we will surive. Maybe be even more motivated on Oct 6? Who knows?

Pardon my sullen temperment. This is my family that is being dragged through the mud by a handful of punks. And I am ****ed. Remember the feeling?

[Ash]

OK. Fair is fair. We tossed it at you and now is the perfect payback time. No problem. If there is a good side it is that this MAY get Jones, arrested for this stuff last July, exonerated. The APD may have arrested him when Henry was the guy. Small satisfaction.

Can't say a thing other than that. The myspace page is an embarassement and I don't understand why those aren't monitored. This is painful but, as much as you might like to think otherwise, we will surive. Maybe be even more motivated on Oct 6? Who knows?

Pardon my sullen temperment. This is my family that is being dragged through the mud by a handful of punks. And I am ****ed. Remember the feeling?

If you're referring to the Boner BRSI incident, apples and oranges.

Having dumb *** kids who hook up with dumb *** boosters to try and pull off some dumb *** scheme is one thing. And let's not forget how that was handled by the coaching staff and university.

Fielding a team of felons, for armed burglary and kiddie rape among other things, is quite another. Especially considering how your coaching staff has handled it.

The whole "OU fans are hypocrites because their players get in trouble" crap is played out and tired. Having seven players arrested in four months, not to mention what has gone on over the past few years, while your head coach sits on the sidelines and claps, trumps anything that has happened here in a comparable amount of time.

[goingoneight]

It's the media's fault!

And ESPN hates us and is running a smear campaign!

And, it's just a few boys out having fun! Hell who amongst us has not engaged in a little gun and weed play!

And.. the NCAA is actually behind all this!

And.. oh by the way...


Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did.

But you can't hold a whole team responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole athletic system? And if the whole athletic system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society?

Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

You're right on the "deeds of a few" argument... but seriously, man... what the **** is going on down there? This is beyond strange coincidence at this point. Personally I hope they all get what's coming to them provided they're guilty.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Man, I lived in Austin for years and I know it's easy to get in trouble there, but I never robbed anyone! And I'm a nobody and talked my way out of a DWI right under 35 on 6th street so I don't really know how these guys seem to be collectively shoving their heads up their asses.

I hope Mack straightens it all out and gets the team in line so we can beat UT fair and square with a full lineup.

*lineup pun NOT inetended!*

[sooner45]

Good job Mack!! Keep it up! :texan:


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3025453

[colleyvillesooner]

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6434/108803pv1.gif

[85sooners]

hahahahahehhehehehehohohohoho

[Ash]

Listen to colleyvillesooner and get to know your search feature...it's your friend.

[OUster]

this is a kid out of San Antonio? I think this he originally committed to us and then switched to Texas? Didn't he?

[socalute]

I think all Sooner fans at the Red River Shootout should hold up mug shots with signs that say "Book 'em Horns!" That would be classic.

[Rhino]

this is a kid out of San Antonio? I think this he originally committed to us and then switched to Texas? Didn't he? Yep. Committed to OU in April 2005, switched to UT in December 2005.

Horns were overjoyed.

[Leroy Lizard]

Can't say a thing other than that. The myspace page is an embarassement and I don't understand why those aren't monitored.

For me, I don't think the issue here is the monitoring of the myspace pages, but rather that individuals who are supposed to be college students are displaying such behavior. The problem is the attitude their message conveys, not the fact that their messages become public.

By the way, this problem is everywhere, not just in Austin. Whatever happened to character in this country?

[stoopified]

Henry was once commited to us, the switched to jailbird U.

In reality though I think Stoops pulled his ship because he knew he was trouble. ;)
Doesn't bother me,those Horns need to be taken down a few pegs.

[Crucifax Autumn]

If I was a betting man I'd say at least 2 more whorns will see the inside of a cell this season.

[bluedogok]

A recently dismissed Whorn arrested again.


Statesman.com - Gatewood arrested again (http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2007/10/07/gatewood_arrest.html)
By Suzanne Halliburton | Sunday, October 7, 2007, 12:31 PM

Former Longhorn safety Tyrell Gatewood is in Travis County Jail, waiting to post bail on two misdemeanor drug charges.

He was arrested Saturday night for marijuana possession and for possession on a controlled substance.

It was his second arrest in a month. Gatewood, who had been in his final semester with the football team, was suspended indefinitely Sept. 13 on possession charges. Texas coach Mack Brown said he could return to the team only if he cleared up his legal problems.

[47straight]

He's still in school... he's still a whorn.

[tommieharris91]

Mack will probably find a way to clap his way outta jail.

[GreaterState]

Former Longhorn safety Tyrell Gatewood is in Travis County Jail

:rolleyes:
If we're comparing former players to former players, you might still have to spot UT a couple of life sentences or so. Tired

[bluedogok]

Yep, you must be tired of Whorns getting arrested in recent years but he is one who they just said on the local news (here in Austin) that he has been suspended indefinitely, not dismissed from the team or school. So he is technically NOT a former player, just a suspended player.

[GreaterState]

Yep, you must be tired of Whorns getting arrested in recent years but he is one who they just said on the local news (here in Austin) that he has been suspended indefinitely, not dismissed from the team or school. So he is technically NOT a former player, just a suspended player.

I was just quoting the reporter like you.

So, like Dusty, right? Help me out here.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Either way...He's texassinine.

[47straight]

:rolleyes:
If we're comparing former players to former players, you might still have to spot UT a couple of life sentences or so. Tired


Suspended != expelled. He's still on scholarship. He's a horn.

[47straight]

I was just quoting the reporter like you.

So, like Dusty, right? Help me out here.


Assuming Dusty was suspended indefinitely (v. actually kicked off), the situation is different because Dusty didn't do anything while he was on suspension/expulsion.

[soonergirlNeugene]

This seemed relevant..
http://content.cartoonbox.slate.com/?feature=ba3a7dd2390806791a35b750c9155ca4

[aero]

What I still find humorous after living in the Austin area for 23 years is that one of the excuses ut has worn out over the years is that they lose to us and other teams because their standards are so much higher and they recruit student/athletes. Truly hilarious. Most of the guys I've seen come though there couldn't speak basic English, let alone spell. The only difference this year has been they are actually getting caught and not getting off the charges.

[TexasLidig8r]

Most of the guys I've seen come though there couldn't speak basic English, let alone spell. .

Most? How about some names then sport. And when you say "most," that necessarily means, since there are 85 on scholarship at any one time, most would include at least 43. So, let's see your list with some substantive facts to support the list.

Then, why not compile a list of football players at UT who have become academically ineligible or kicked out for not making the grades... Then, compile a similar list for OU.

Should be interesting.

[aero]

Sport? Oh my, aren't you clever. It would probably be easier to name the ones who could actually speak English,.....................sport. Typical whorn with their burnt orange glasses. Your program is no different than any other as far as the athletes you recruit and the academic programs they are exposed to. Seems like the whorns have been near the bottom of the B12 in graduation rates while we have been mid to upper. Keep kidding yourself,..............sport.

[KRYPTON]

Then, why not compile a list of football players at UT who have become academically ineligible or kicked out for not making the grades... Then, compile a similar list for OU, and adjust the list showing where academic fraud was committed by multiple Texas state employess by monkeying with the UT players' records and sweeping the whole thing away.

Should be interesting.

FTFY.
GBY.

STFU.
GBTW.
ETC.:texan:

[badger]

Most? How about some names then sport. And when you say "most," that necessarily means, since there are 85 on scholarship at any one time, most would include at least 43. So, let's see your list with some substantive facts to support the list.

Then, why not compile a list of football players at UT who have become academically ineligible or kicked out for not making the grades... Then, compile a similar list for OU.

Should be interesting.
Here's a name: Vince Young. He couldn't even pass the Wonderlic ;)

[handcrafted]

Most? How about some names then sport. And when you say "most," that necessarily means, since there are 85 on scholarship at any one time, most would include at least 43. So, let's see your list with some substantive facts to support the list.

Then, why not compile a list of football players at UT who have become academically ineligible or kicked out for not making the grades... Then, compile a similar list for OU.

Should be interesting.

VY aka Radio: worst Wonderlic in the history of the NFL

Dusty D.: highest Wonderlic in his draft class

(can I get a PWNED??? :D)

[douxpaysan]

Whorns arehttp://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6261/hippo0ot.jpgHippocrites.

[TMcGee86]

And when you say "most," that necessarily means, since there are 85 on scholarship at any one time, most would include at least 43.

No it doesn't.

Re-read his quote counselor, he specifically said "most of the guys I've seen..."

So it could be as little as 2 out of 3, if he's only had the chance to interact with 3 players.

[TexasLidig8r]

Still waiting on some names and facts Chief.

You could always just say you were talking out your arse in accordance with your "I Hate UT" diploma you have hanging up in your outhouse instead.

[1stTimeCaller]

there's one named Steven D. that can't spell his name. A big dooshbag that guy is.


;)

[Speer]

Still waiting on some names and facts Chief.

You could always just say you were talking out your arse in accordance with your "I Hate UT" diploma you have hanging up in your outhouse instead.

I know you can name at least one.

From a thread Lid started last year:

Me: Who knew that Taylor was flunking out prior to the Rose Bowl?
Lid: Taylor was cleared to play in the Rose Bowl as at that time,
his grades were compliant with the NCAA minimum requirements.

"Tough" Mack/UT standards and NCAA requirements become quite flexible when the NC is on the line.

[CobraKai]

Still waiting on some names and facts Chief.

You could always just say you were talking out your arse in accordance with your "I Hate UT" diploma you have hanging up in your outhouse instead.

UT is no different than any other school in that regard. My cousin played there, and he was a national merit scholar who went on to an Ivy League law school. Meanwhile he laughed that a certain running back that was there in the 80s and early 90s (who always referred to himself in the 3rd person) was essentially mentally retarded and that he could barely spell his own name.

Bottom line...Texas is a great academic institution, but Texas athletes are no smarter than Kansas State's or anyone else's.

[KRYPTON]

Still waiting on some names and facts Chief.

You could always just say you were talking out your arse in accordance with your "I Hate UT" diploma you have hanging up in your outhouse instead.


Ad Hominem: The trademark of a lost argument

[TexasLidig8r]

Bottom line...Texas is a great academic institution, but Texas athletes are no smarter than Kansas State's or anyone else's.

That may be the most intelajunt opinion in this thread.

[fadada1]

Here's a name: Vince Young. He couldn't even pass the Wonderlic ;)
you can't pass what you can't read.

[aero]

Still waiting on some names and facts Chief.

You could always just say you were talking out your arse in accordance with your "I Hate UT" diploma you have hanging up in your outhouse instead.
Oh, it's Chief now. You are quite clever. :D I'm sure there are some ut football players that have some grasp of the English language but let me just say that quite a number of the ones that Mack actually let speak for themselves, or possibly the ones who they couldn't stop from speaking before they could get to them, were quite comical in their language arts. And no, I don't usually jot down the names of whorn football players who make asses of themselves. Just like I don't write down every incoming call on my cell. But I do know there have been quite a few of both.........Chief. :D How many credits was VY away from that phd? How about Ramonce? How about Lovell Pinkney? Edwin Simmons? Ricky could speak fairly well but the fog in his head made comprehensive statements a challenge. Wait, strike Ricky. He wasn't a true texan, being from California and all. James Henry's MySpace - we'll just leave it at that. Not really worth the time to go on. Oh, and I don't really hate ut. That would be like hating my dog after he came home from getting hit in the head by a car. He's still fun to watch sometimes, in a sad kind of way.