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Okla-homey
9/12/2007, 06:09 AM
Sept. 12, 1609: Henry Hudson sails into New York Harbor aboard Half Moon.

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Henry Hudson c.1609

398 years ago today, an English sailor named Henry Hudson, the grandson of a London alderman who helped found a trading organization, the Muscovy Company, sailed into New York Harbor and cruised up the river that now bears his name.

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Reproduction Half Moon

Hudson was certainly an experienced seaman, commissioned by the Muscovy Company in 1607 to find a quick way from England to the "islands of spicery" (Japan, India, etc.) He failed in that attempt, and again in 1608 -- each time foiled by ice floes as he attempted to find a fast northerly passage to "the east."

In 1609 the Dutch East India Company, which had a monopoly on trade with the Orient and which wanted to shorten the lengthy and expensive voyage around the Cape of Good Hope, hired Hudson to renew the attempt on its behalf. They provided him with an 80-ton ship, Half Moon, and a crew of 20 -- a combination of Dutch and English sailors.

Half Moon sailed out of Amsterdam on April 4 or 6, 1609 and after a difficult journey along the coast of Norway and as far east as the bleak coast of Novaya Zemlya, turned west and headed for warmer climes. Reports claim that Hudson had a trying time with the crew, which threatened to mutiny, but persuaded them to help seek the alternative route to the lucrative spices.

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The quest for the North-West passage led first to the coast of Maine where members of the crew went ashore and cut timber to replace the mast of the "Half Moon." They fished and traded with the Indians but continued south to the Chesapeake and Delaware Bays. After Hudson decided they weren't entrances to the passage he was seeking, the "Half Moon" sailed north to the mouth of the Hudson River in early September.

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The Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (VOC, United East India Company) existed 1602-1798. Hudson's ship flew this flag.

An Italian, Giovanni da Verranzano, was the first recorded European to discover the mouth of the river when he was sailing for the French in 1524. He wrote, "we found a very pleasant situation amongst some steep hills ... ," but did not continue exploring what he called, "The River of the Steep Hills" and the "Grand River."

On September 12, 1609, Hudson began his exploration of the river. The first night he anchored off the northern tip of Manhattan. The next night, after the crew traded for oysters with Indians, the ship was near Yonkers.

On September 14 Hudson thought he may have found the long-sought passage when he saw the wide Tappan Zee but he later became disappointed when he reached the shallower area near Albany and turned back.

The journal of one of the ship's officers, Robert Juet, was published in England in 1625. It notes, "the 14th, in the morning, being very fair weather, the wind southeast, we sailed up the river 12 leagues ... The river is full of fish."

Hudson called dibs on the area for the Netherlands (Holland) and by 1660, a well established Dutch town was situated in Manhattan called New Amsterdam.

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The flag of the City of New York heralds the city's Dutch roots.

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swardboy
9/12/2007, 07:53 AM
Don't it always seem to go, you don't know what ya got 'til it's gone!

Preservation Parcels
9/12/2007, 08:18 AM
Outstanding, Homey! In your research, did you find out any more about his travels near the Delaware Bay?

I found it fascinating that Hudson the Englishman claimed the land for the Netherlands, and Verranzano the Italian was sailing for the French.

Thanks for the brain stretching exercises every morning.

Okla-homey
9/12/2007, 08:38 AM
Outstanding, Homey! In your research, did you find out any more about his travels near the Delaware Bay?

I found it fascinating that Hudson the Englishman claimed the land for the Netherlands, and Verranzano the Italian was sailing for the French.

Thanks for the brain stretching exercises every morning.

and don't forget Italian Cristobal Columbo sailing for Spain!
further, John Cabot was born in Genoa, Italy around 1450. His name was actually Giovanni Caboto. He led the first English expedition to the New World in 1497.

GottaHavePride
9/12/2007, 09:32 AM
Dude, you can't call dibs on a spaceship.

Sure I can. DIBS! See? I did it again.


Informative as always, Homey.

TUSooner
9/12/2007, 10:12 AM
and don't forget Italian Cristobal Columbo sailing for Spain!
further, John Cabot was born in Genoa, Italy around 1450. His name was actually Giovanni Caboto. He led the first English expedition to the New World in 1497.

And the great Portuguese navigator, Ferdinand Magellan (Fernao de Magalhaes) also sailed for Spain, and at a time when Spain and Portugal were serious rivals.

Great stuff, Homey. Too bad Henry came to such a bad (or at least mysterious) end.

Petro-Sooner
9/12/2007, 10:41 AM
I read once that those are actually "padding" for when they fall down. They help in avoiding heads that might bang into the ship floor when the seas are rough. Those "neck pads" help break the fall. Its a pretty cleaver invention.

Okla-homey
9/12/2007, 10:51 AM
I read once that those are actually "padding" for when they fall down. They help in avoiding heads that might bang into the ship floor when the seas are rough. Those "neck pads" help break the fall. Its a pretty cleaver invention.

They also served as shock-absorbers. See, when you wore one of those steel brain-bucket helmets they had back then, a sword bash on your bucket could cause serious trauma even if it didn't pierce the bucket. Those heavy linen neck ruffles were stiff and heavily starched. Their accordian folds tended to absorb some of the shock when bashed on the helmet. Kinda like the neck braces linemen wear now.

Taxman71
9/12/2007, 12:56 PM
Didn't some guy get his sack ripped off in this guy's house recently?

TUSooner
9/12/2007, 01:17 PM
Didn't some guy get his sack ripped off in this guy's house recently?

Yeah. Why haven't we heard more about this? It even made the sports section of th New Orleans Times-Pickyournose.
I must have missed the thread.

OUDoc
9/12/2007, 01:34 PM
Hornsfans has a big thread about. Despite their mascot, apparently they're against human castration.

Taxman71
9/12/2007, 01:45 PM
I really don't know why this issue is the headline today across the media. Conspiracy?