Robert Duvall vs. Gene Hackman

[royalfan5]

Who is better? I give a slight edge to Duvall.

[Mongo]

Gene

His role as Little Bill Daggett in Unforgiven, and the blind monk in Young Frankenstein

[OUDoc]

Duvall is a better actor, Hackman has had better movies.

[r5TPsooner]

I like em both but give the edge to Gene.

[Viking Kitten]

I've always liked Gene Hackman, however, Robert Duvall is beyond awesome. He is one those trancendental actors who just becomes the character he is portraying, like DeNiro. I'd put Gary Oldman and Meryl Streep in that catgory as well.

[usmc-sooner]

Duvall for me
2007 Brando
2007 We Own the Night
2007 Lucky You
2007 Operation Homecoming: Writing the Wartime Experience
2006 Broken Trail
2005 American Experience: The Carter Family - Will the Circle Be Unbroken
2005 Thank You for Smoking
2005 Kicking & Screaming
2003 Secondhand Lions
2003 Open Range
2003 Gods and Generals
2002 Assassination Tango
2002 John Q.
2001 Apocalypse Now Redux
2000 Into Africa
2000 The 6th Day
2000 Gone In 60 Seconds
2000 A Shot At Glory
1998 Deep Impact
1998 The Gingerbread Man
1998 A Civil Action
1997 The Apostle
1996 The Man Who Captured Eichmann
1996 Phenomenon
1996 A Family Thing
1996 Sling Blade
1995 Something to Talk About
1995 The Scarlet Letter
1995 The Stars Fell on Henrietta
1994 The Paper
1993 Geronimo: An American Legend
1993 Falling Down
1993 Wrestling Ernest Hemingway
1992 Waylon Jennings: Renegade. Outlaw. Legend.
1992 Newsies
1992 Stalin
1992 La Peste
1991 Rambling Rose
1991 Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse
1991 Convicts
1990 The Handmaid's Tale
1990 Days of Thunder
1990 A Show of Force
1990 Lonesome Dove: The Making of an Epic
1989 Lonesome Dove
1988 Colors
1988 Tango: Our Dance
1987 Hotel Colonial
1987 Let's Get Harry
1986 Waylon Jennings: America
1986 Belizaire the Cajun
1985 The Lightship
1985 Falling for the Stars
1984 The Stone Boy
1984 The Natural
1983 Tender Mercies
1983 The Terry Fox Story
1981 The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper
1981 True Confessions
1979 Apocalypse Now
1979 The Great Santini
1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers
1978 The Betsy
1978 Ike
1977 The Godfather Saga
1977 The Greatest
1976 The Eagle Has Landed
1976 The Seven-Percent Solution
1976 Network
1975 The Killer Elite
1975 Breakout
1974 The Godfather Part II
1974 The Conversation
1973 Badge 373
1973 The Outfit
1973 Lady Ice
1972 Tomorrow
1972 Joe Kidd
1972 The Great Northfield, Minnesota Raid
1972 The Godfather
1971 Lawman
1971 THX 1138
1970 The Revolutionary
1970 M*A*S*H
1969 True Grit
1969 The Rain People
1968 Bullitt
1968 The Detective
1968 Countdown
1967 Aliens from Another Planet
1967 Cimarron Strip: The Roarer
1966 The Chase
1966 Fame is the Name of the Game
1965 The Fugitive: Brass Ring
1964 Nightmare in the Sun
1964 The Outer Limits: The Inheritors, Part 2
1964 The Outer Limits: Demon with a Glass Hand
1964 The Outer Limits: The Chameleon
1964 The Outer Limits: The Inheritors, Part 1
1964 The Outer Limits: The Sixth Finger
1963 The Outer Limits: The Galaxy Being
1963 The Twilight Zone: Miniature
1963 Fugitive, Vol. 2
1963 Captain Newman, M.D.
1962 To Kill a Mockingbird
1962 Naked City: Torment Him Much and Hold Him Long
1962 Alfred Hitchcock Presents: Bad Actor
1962 Naked City: The One Marked Hot Gives Cold
1961 Naked City: A Hole in the City

[crawfish]

That's a tough one. I'm going with Hackman, but both are undeniable greatness.

[sooneron]

Seeing as how Bob said Gene was the best one out there, I went with Gene.

[GottaHavePride]

Only Hackman is part of the Hackman-Caine Theory.

[FaninAma]

My favorite Duvall performances were in the Great Santini and, of course, Lonesome Dove.

Hackman was awesome in Crimson Tide.

[Scott D]

Only Hackman is part of the Hackman-Caine Theory.

case closed...end of story, no more argument.

[usmc-sooner]

Gene's list

2006 Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut
2004 Imaginary Witness: Hollywood and the Holocaust
2004 Welcome to Mooseport
2003 Runaway Jury
2001 The Royal Tenenbaums
2001 Heroes of Iwo Jima
2001 The Mexican
2001 Behind Enemy Lines
2001 Heist
2001 Heartbreakers
2000 Under Suspicion
2000 Clint Eastwood: Out of the Shadows
2000 The Replacements
1999 Hitchcock, Selznick and the End of Hollywood
1998 Antz
1998 Enemy of the State
1998 Twilight
1997 Absolute Power
1996 The Birdcage
1996 Extreme Measures
1996 The Chamber
1995 Crimson Tide
1995 Get Shorty
1995 The Quick and the Dead
1994 Wyatt Earp
1993 The Firm
1993 Geronimo: An American Legend
1993 Earth and the American Dream
1992 Unforgiven
1991 Company Business
1991 Class Action
1990 Narrow Margin
1990 Postcards from the Edge
1990 Loose Cannons
1989 The Package
1988 Mississippi Burning
1988 Split Decisions
1988 Another Woman
1988 Full Moon in Blue Water
1988 Bat 21
1987 No Way Out
1987 Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
1986 Hoosiers
1986 Power
1985 Target
1985 Twice in a Lifetime
1984 Misunderstood
1983 Under Fire
1983 Two of a Kind
1983 Uncommon Valor
1981 All Night Long
1981 Eureka
1981 Reds
1980 Superman II
1978 Superman: The Movie
1977 March or Die
1977 A Bridge Too Far
1977 A Look at Liv
1977 The Domino Principle
1976 America at the Movies
1975 Lucky Lady
1975 The French Connection II
1975 Bite the Bullet
1975 Night Moves
1974 Young Frankenstein
1974 Zandy's Bride
1974 The Conversation
1973 Scarecrow
1972 The Poseidon Adventure
1972 Prime Cut
1971 The Hunting Party
1971 Cisco Pike
1971 The French Connection
1970 I Never Sang for My Father
1970 Doctors' Wives
1969 Downhill Racer
1969 Marooned
1969 The Gypsy Moths
1968 The Split
1968 Riot
1968 Shadow on the Land
1968 The Invaders, Vol. 10: The Spores
1967 First to Fight
1967 Banning
1967 Bonnie and Clyde
1966 Hawaii
1966 A Covenant with Death
1964 Lilith
1963 Naked City: Prime of Life
1961 Mad Dog Coll

both are impressive

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Duvall likeable, Hackman not so much. I went with the positive.

[soonerinabilene]

Duvall's new one is goint to be GREAT. Him, Marky Mark, Joaquin Phoeniz, Eva Mendes.
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[soonerbrat]

what's the hackman caine theory?

[proud gonzo]

Hack Man!

[proud gonzo]

what's the hackman caine theory?*sigh*

[sooner_born_1960]

Don't feel bad, Brat. I've never seen PCU either. I never even heard of it til i Googled "hackman caine theory".

[proud gonzo]

:les: BLASPHEMERS!

[OUDoc]

Don't feel bad, Brat. I've never seen PCU either. I never even heard of it til i Googled "hackman caine theory".
Don't be THAT guy.

;)

[proud gonzo]

Pins and needles!

[sooner_born_1960]

Don't be THAT guy.

;)
I've read the Wiki article on the movie, so I know what that reference.

[sooner_born_1960]

Is it ever on TV?

[OUDoc]

Is it ever on TV?
Randomly appears on HBO (over and over and over again).

[Taxman71]

Duvall wins based solely on Lonesome Dove, although Tender Mercies is up there.
Gene is only a hair behind though...esp. liked him in The Firm and, of course, as Lex Luthor.

[TMcGee86]

"Can you blow me where the pampers is?"



I said Robert, based on Lonesome Dove. Couple it with Godfather and he's teh winner.

[OUDoc]

"Can you blow me where the pampers is?"



I said Robert, based on Lonesome Dove. Couple it with Godfather and he's teh winner.
And M*A*S*H.

I love that quote. :D

[Taxman71]

Robert also gave us:

rubbin' is racing

can't trust Texans, lowest form of whiteman there is

any man who wouldn't cheat for a poke, don't want one bad enough

and, as stated, everything from GF I and II.

No lack of love for Gene, his role in Unforgiven is top 10 of all time.

[usmc-sooner]

what about Geronimo where Duvall says
"Texans lowest form of white man their is"

[usmc-sooner]

I love the smell of Napalm in the morning.

[Fugue]

I agree with OUDoc and VK. Gene is great but Bob is the better actor. His range is complete.

[Scott D]

there's no Duvall/Caine theory, therefore this is debunked :D

[King Crimson]

it's Duvall. not even close.

Duvall is in Network and the Godfather I and II.

Hackman isn't in anything that good.

[sooneron]

After thinking about it, this should be a draw. Hackman has tremendous range, you guys just remember his big hollywood roles.

Royal Tennenbaums
Get Shorty
Mississippi Burning
Hoosiers
Bat 21
Superman 1&2
Bridge Too far
Young Frankenstein
French Connection
The Conversation
Hell, he was the only believable role in Poseidon Adventure
Bonnie and Clyde
The Chamber
He also did a nice job in Geronimo

[sooneron]

it's Duvall. not even close.

Duvall is in Network and the Godfather I and II.

Hackman isn't in anything that good.
Duvall was pretty much window dressing in II.

[King Crimson]

Duvall was pretty much window dressing in II.

yeah, but he was awesome in Days of Thunder.

[sooneron]

yeah, but he was awesome in Days of Thunder.
Ok ,now you're giving cred for good roles in fairly crappy Bruckheimer films, therefore, Hackman wins with Tide and Enemy AND Behind Enemy.

[King Crimson]

sarcasm. i wanted to kill myself after paying money to see Days of Thunder.

[Xstnlsooner]

I love the smell of Napalm in the morning.


SPEK!!

[King Crimson]

Hackman was in Jaws 3-D.

Duvall: great santini.

[BudSooner]

Gene was incredible in Bat21, and if you have not watched it then you should.
Also starred Danny Glover and Jerry Reed-he also was the executive producer.

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[soonerbrat]

Did anyone mention Lex Luthor?

[en4cer]

Its simple really. If its a country i'm wanting nuked I'll call Hackman. If its a beach I need strafed, well... Duvall would be the man.

[Harry Beanbag]

Duvall easily.

Hackman, IMO, suffers from the same affliction that Nicholson does, he makes every role the same character. Just like Jack, he's awesome at it, but Duvall becomes the character, the character doesn't become Duvall.

[StoopTroup]

Just because he did Lex Luther...

I give the edge to Duvall.

[Taxman71]

Duvall wins based solely on westerns. While Hackman gets major, major props for Unforgiven, much is negated by Wyatt Earp and The Quick and the Dead....you get outgunned by Sharon Stone, you lose.

Plus, Duvall was in To Kill a Mockingbird, True Grit and Bullitt

It is still hard not to put Gene up there for Hoosiers though.

[sooneron]

Hackman was in Jaws 3-D.

Duvall: great santini.
:confused:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085750/fullcredits#cast

[XingTheRubicon]

You heard me, Coltrane.

[King Crimson]

:confused:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085750/fullcredits#cast

huh, i guess i was wrong about that.

[sooneron]

4 words...




Gone




In





Sixty





Seconds



Duvall is closing in on the crappy Bruckheimer films, I forgot about that one.

[King Crimson]

watch this: Hooisers is really overrated--it's a conventional guy soap opera sports movie and the music is awful. it's almost as bad as Glory Road and Friday Night Lights.

[SoonerGirl06]

Robert Duvall without a doubt. There isn't a movie he's been in that I haven't simply loved watching him in.

Lonesome Dove was probably one of his best roles ever.

[Scott D]

I'm waiting for his apology for Tender Mercies.

[SteelClip49]

Duvall is a great actor but some of his roles can be boring. Hackman can play any character and succeed in it. All his movies are exciting. Hackman also does a great job for being the voice over in the Lowe's commercials. Hackman also has one more Oscar than his good friend Duvall.

[Harry Beanbag]

Hackman also does a great job for being the voice over in the Lowe's commercials.


I guess that settles it. :confused:

[sanantoniosooner]

Voice overs are really what set the riff raff apart from the cream of the crop.

[sooneron]

watch this: Hooisers is really overrated--it's a conventional guy soap opera sports movie and the music is awful. it's almost as bad as Glory Road and Friday Night Lights.
I will agree that the score is horrible, but Gene didn't do that. His performance is very good. I think the film is a little more low key and understated than FNL or GR. Thus, much better.

[sooneron]

Voice overs are really what set the riff raff apart from the cream of the crop.
His work for Oppenheimer funds was tour de force!:texan:

[phead903]

"Soldier, if I say it's safe to surf this beach, IT'S SAFE TO SURF THIS BEACH!" = greatness...

[Tulsa_Fireman]

No love for 'The Apostle' yet. That surprises me.

Duvall all the way.

Now don't get me wrong, Hackman's done some righteous stuff. Unforgiven is a personal fave. Who can forget Popeye Doyle in 'The French Connection'? The kicker is, I'll go see a movie with EITHER of 'em in it just because they're in it.

But Duvall has it on Gus McCrae alone.

Speaking of, I'm gonna go get me a poke.

[limey_sooner]

Close call. I'd have to give it to Hackman for "the conversation". Genius work

[OCUDad]

Duvall. Anybody that can play a guy named "Boo" or a guy named "Bluebonnet" gets my vote.

[Taxman71]

No love for 'The Apostle' yet. That surprises me.



Forgot about him putting it to Farah Fawcett then beating her new boyfriend with a baseball bat at a little league game.

Bottom line, Augustus McRae may be the best movie character of all time, all things considered.

[soonerloyal]

I love both of their works...great actors, those two. Phenomenal. They both amaze me and make my heart flutter.

Duvall served honorably as a Soldier in the United States Army. Additionally, he played a good Marine - "The Great Santini". However, if it's a contest, give it to Hackman. He IS a Marine.

Case closed, IMO. Ooh-Rah!