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Condescending Sooner
8/23/2007, 02:48 PM
Is it true that democrats are afraid the troop surge is working in Iraq? Does that mean that they are actually rooting for the insurgents? I don't see how anyone could see it any different.

House Whip James Clyburn recently said if the surge were successful, it would be "a real problem for us"

colleyvillesooner
8/23/2007, 02:54 PM
IBTT

frankensooner
8/23/2007, 03:11 PM
I believe he meant it could be bad election-wise, only in a political sense, not bad for the country as a whole. I am sure no one on either side of the aisle is rooting for the bad guys, that is way out there bro.

JohnnyMack
8/23/2007, 03:15 PM
The intelligence community doesn't think much of Iraq's leadership:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/23/nie/index.html

The Iraqi's aren't gobbling up democracy:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1655219,00.html

The violence is shifting away from the areas where the surge is taking place:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/16/world/middleeast/16iraq.html?hp

Forgive me if I don't sunshine pump.

Condescending Sooner
8/23/2007, 03:16 PM
Is the election more important than winning a war?

frankensooner
8/23/2007, 03:17 PM
thick?

Condescending Sooner
8/23/2007, 03:18 PM
The intelligence community doesn't think much of Iraq's leadership:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/23/nie/index.html

The Iraqi's aren't gobbling up democracy:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1655219,00.html

The violence is shifting away from the areas where the surge is taking place:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/16/world/middleeast/16iraq.html?hp

Forgive me if I don't sunshine pump.


Wow that is really suprising coming from the NY Times, CNN, and Johnny Mack. Y'all have nothing in common, huh.

LosAngelesSooner
8/23/2007, 03:39 PM
Oh, Lord. :rolleyes:

Hatfield
8/23/2007, 03:56 PM
No.
That is assinine.

KABOOKIE
8/23/2007, 03:57 PM
Yes. It will be bad for the Clinton/Obama ticket.

JohnnyMack
8/23/2007, 04:22 PM
Wow that is really suprising coming from the NY Times, CNN, and Johnny Mack. Y'all have nothing in common, huh.

Does who I chose to link the articles from make the actual events any less real?

Did those people not die in that blast?

Did the NIE not issue that report?

Condescending Sooner
8/23/2007, 04:37 PM
I didn't say whether the surge was working or not. I just asked if the democrats are rooting against it.

CatfishSooner
8/23/2007, 04:39 PM
I think the Dems are rooting against it.

jk the sooner fan
8/23/2007, 05:03 PM
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_082307/content/01125109.guest.html

Hatfield
8/23/2007, 05:22 PM
I didn't say whether the surge was working or not. I just asked if the democrats are rooting against it.

no they are not rooting for the insurgents to kill more of our troops.

Hatfield
8/23/2007, 05:24 PM
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_082307/content/01125109.guest.html

it is funny that the admin crucified people at the beginning of this mess for making any comparison to vietnam........

JohnnyMack
8/23/2007, 05:33 PM
I just asked if the democrats are rooting against it.

I don't think so.

jk the sooner fan
8/23/2007, 05:34 PM
it is funny that the admin crucified people at the beginning of this mess for making any comparison to vietnam........

did you read the article?

StoopTroup
8/23/2007, 05:46 PM
That Obama guy sure can shoot some hoop.

Harry Beanbag
8/23/2007, 05:48 PM
That Obama guy sure can shoot some hoop.


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Jeopardude
8/23/2007, 06:19 PM
Here's the full Clyburn quote from an interview:


BALZ: What do Democrats do if General Petraeus comes in in September and says, "This is working very, very well at this point; we would be foolish to back away from it"?

CLYBURN: Well, that would be a real big problem for us, no question about that, simply because of those 47 Blue Dogs. I think there would be enough support in that group to want to stay the course, and if the Republicans were to remain united, as they have been, then it would be a problem for us.

So I think we, by and large, would do wise -- be wise to wait on the report. None of us want to see a bad result in Iraq. If we are going to get in position to yield a good result, I think Democrats want to see that. We love this country. We're as patriotic as anybody else about this. And we have loved ones involved in this issue just like everybody else. I've got family and friends involved in Iraq and Afghanistan, and so I certainly want to see a good result. But I'm certainly not going to just roll over because the president said. It is only because we get good intelligence from those people like General Petraeus who can be trusted to give us good information.

So he was speaking in context of their current legislative efforts.

Harry Beanbag
8/24/2007, 12:33 AM
Here's the full Clyburn quote from an interview:



So he was speaking in context of their current election efforts.

Yep.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
8/24/2007, 12:42 AM
Is it true that democrats are afraid the troop surge is working in Iraq? Does that mean that they are actually rooting for the insurgents? Encyclopedic definitive examples of rhetorical questions!