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BermudaSooner
8/23/2007, 07:44 AM
http://newsok.com/article/3108932/1187842091

While this is ridiculously excessive, I have noticed a huge increase in people wearing Texas apparel in Oklahoma since 2005. Where were all of these "fans" in 2004?


How Rivalry became violent

By Jay F. Marks
Staff Writer
The rancor in the Red River Rivalry apparently doesn't die between football or basketball seasons.

An Oklahoma City man has been charged with aggravated assault and battery, accused of causing extensive damage to another man's scrotum just because he wore a University of Texas shirt into a local bar.


Allen Michael Beckett, 53, has not been arrested on the felony charge, which was filed Monday in Oklahoma County District Court. It carries up to five years in prison if he is convicted.

Beckett is accused of having launched a verbal attack on Brian Thomas when the other man walked into Henry Hudson's Pub at 3509 NW 58 on June 17, according to court documents.

What happened
Thomas said Beckett, whom he had never met, called him "everything under the sun” for wearing a Longhorns T-shirt into the bar.

He said he and his friend sat at a table in the corner and tried to ignore the other man, but other man — who apparently is a University of Oklahoma fan — kept screaming at him.

Thomas said he decided he'd had enough after about 20 minutes of Beckett's abuse so he went to the bar to pay his tab. When he turned around, he said Beckett grabbed his crotch and refused to let go.

Thomas hit the other man several times before several bar patrons intervened, but Thomas said Beckett didn't let go until Thomas heard his scrotum tear and blood ran down his leg.

Thomas, who grew up a Texas fan, said it took more than 60 stitches to close his wound.

Two months later, he said he still is a lot of pain.The injury also caused Thomas to fall behind on his child support payments because he couldn't work.

Beckett could not be reached for comment Wednesday by The Oklahoman.

auto
8/23/2007, 07:45 AM
Dumbass should go to jail for a long time, lucky he didn't get his *** shot.

OUmillenium
8/23/2007, 08:09 AM
That is definitely out of line. At first I thought "ridiculously excessive?"...no way. But yeah, that's not the type of interaction college sports fans should be having. Punch in the face but don't rip a guys sack off. Chances are, if he has a sack then he's probably not a real Longhorn anyway.

OUDoc
8/23/2007, 08:14 AM
Ouch. Just ouch.

birddog
8/23/2007, 08:39 AM
that'll teach him.

Beano's Fourth Chin
8/23/2007, 09:02 AM
That's ridiculous. Typical longhorn fan falling behind on child support. Idiot shouldn't have kids if he isn't willing to take on the responsibility.

Most of them I know would rather hang out in bars than take care of their kids and this guy is no exception.

I hope he got a little crimson on his shirt from all the blood.

Jason White's Third Knee
8/23/2007, 09:07 AM
That's ridiculous. Typical longhorn fan falling behind on child support. Idiot shouldn't have kids if he isn't willing to take on the responsibility.

Most of them I know would rather hang out in bars than take care of their kids and this guy is no exception.

I hope he got a little crimson on his shirt from all the blood.


You evil bastard.


Spek.

DoubleDown
8/23/2007, 09:18 AM
I just talked to a friend of mine who frequents that bar and she said there's a lot more to the story. It also appears The Jokelahoman is assuming Beckett was an OU fan because my friend said he actually graduated from osu.

Blitzkrieg
8/23/2007, 09:40 AM
This story has to be pure BS.

We all know Texas fans have no balls, so why would they have a need for a scrotum?

fadada1
8/23/2007, 09:42 AM
i've never heard of a Sooner fan sqeezing nuts. Aggy, yes. Sooners, no.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
8/23/2007, 09:43 AM
That's ridiculous. Typical longhorn fan falling behind on child support. Idiot shouldn't have kids if he isn't willing to take on the responsibility.

Most of them I know would rather hang out in bars than take care of their kids and this guy is no exception.

I hope he got a little crimson on his shirt from all the blood.Haha!WhyTF would ANYONE wear whorn paraphernalia in OK, anyway? He did ask for "IT"!!!

NormanPride
8/23/2007, 09:47 AM
This is just another example of the media hating on OU. I mean saxet gets all the love even from our own press here in the state! Just watch, this ut "fan" will show up with a big cast over his sack for the trial to get sympathy. But as soon as he gets his money, he'll blow it all on cocaine and gay bars with his buddies.

Meanwhile this OU patriot gets hung out to dry for defending the state's honor against this detritus from the south. Freakin' media bias!

OUDoc
8/23/2007, 10:08 AM
That's the Hudson's I used to hang out in before med school. Nothing exciting happened. Barry Sanders came in once, no one grabbed his balls though.

OKC-SLC
8/23/2007, 10:49 AM
That's the Hudson's I used to hang out in before med school. Nothing exciting happened. Barry Sanders came in once, no one grabbed his balls though.
Is it bad that it's the one I hung out at DURING med school?

The Maestro
8/23/2007, 10:49 AM
"...could hear it tear and blood ran down his leg..."

Wow....just freaking wow....and ouch.

colleyvillesooner
8/23/2007, 10:56 AM
Gotta love Hornfans.com (http://forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=football&Number=5153119&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=). Sarcasm must not recognized over there.

Like any Sooner fan condones this action.

OKC-SLC
8/23/2007, 11:02 AM
dipshidz.

Jewstin
8/23/2007, 11:10 AM
The description of his scrotum tearing made me cringe and moan. Aye carumba. Yowza. ... etc.

Maybe this Beckett guy was just attracted to him and showing his affection by groping him? That's the ticket. This ball grabbage was taken out of context.

Jacie
8/23/2007, 11:15 AM
Yeah, too bad this one wasn't de-nutted before it could breed.



And for all you saxet lurkers, THAT WAS A JOKE!

OUDoc
8/23/2007, 11:20 AM
It's embarassing for humanity that the majority of soonerfans.com is either defending the guy, insinuating that the UT fan must have actually started it, making fun of the man for getting injured, etc.

Is it as embarrassing as mis-spelling "embarrassing" or not getting sarcasm?

OUDoc
8/23/2007, 11:24 AM
we should get a group to go to this bar all dressed in UT gear.
Meet LonghornBob at the private bus. He'll be waiting.

Boomer.....
8/23/2007, 11:24 AM
I'm not sure if I understand the fighting technique of grabbing another mans sack.

OUDoc
8/23/2007, 11:27 AM
I'm not sure if I understand the fighting technique of grabbing another mans sack.
Bobby Hill did. And he's from texas.

:les:That's my purse!

Okay, he actually kicked, but still.


I don't get it either.

NormanPride
8/23/2007, 11:55 AM
Are those all noobs over there? It doesn't seem like it, and that's kind of sad. I'm surprised Hornfans is up enough to get angry. I swear those servers need Viagra or Cialis or something.

Rhino
8/23/2007, 11:58 AM
I'm about to throw up everywhere.

colleyvillesooner
8/23/2007, 12:01 PM
If you're gonna spew, spew into this...

http://www.rafkind.com/barry/CS130/Cups/images/dixiecups.jpg

SoonerRecon
8/23/2007, 12:03 PM
WTF.
As a Sooner alumni living in Austin for 8 years, I really wish this wouldn't have happened.
Seems to me that this guy was using aggie tactics, and osu should be catching the heat.
If someone grabs my sack, and it's not my wife, they are waking up in the hospital with a broken arm.

Blitzkrieg
8/23/2007, 12:06 PM
If a scrotum tears in the woods, and no one is there to hear it, does it make any sound?

colleyvillesooner
8/23/2007, 12:08 PM
So they run the whole article as OU vs UT rivalry based on this?


He said he and his friend sat at a table in the corner and tried to ignore the other man, but other man — who apparently is a University of Oklahoma fan — kept screaming at him.

That withstanding, no one should do that to another human being. Ever.

Theskipster
8/23/2007, 12:11 PM
I just talked to a friend of mine who frequents that bar and she said there's a lot more to the story. It also appears The Jokelahoman is assuming Beckett was an OU fan because my friend said he actually graduated from osu.

You might be right.

In 1993 The Board of Regents for the Oklahoma Agricultural and Mechanical Colleges (OSU, Langston, Panhandle, Northeastern) sued Allen Michael Beckett for indebtedness.

http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/GetCaseInformation.asp?submitted=true&viewtype=caseGeneral&casemasterID=384890&db=Oklahoma

On that page, the plaintiff is listed as BOARD OF REGENTS FOR THE OKLAH, but I can't think of any group but the OSU regents board with a name starts out like that.

OUDoc
8/23/2007, 12:16 PM
This is getting funny. Sooners are linking this thread and one of them starts the grammar smack talk in a post where HE makes a spelling error.
Nope, all the letters are correct, just presented so you slow-er types can read it. Nice try though.

And you guys are linking this thread. Pathetic. :rolleyes:

crawfish
8/23/2007, 12:21 PM
Gotta love the brain-dead lurkers from whornfans.

No, we don't support this kind of behavior. But this board is all about smart-***edness, and if you don't have a sense of humor, please go away.

RedstickSooner
8/23/2007, 12:21 PM
I *enjoy* seeing morons wearing Uterus crap (although you don't see much of it here in Louisiana). Every time I see one, I get a little smile when I think of how they'll whimper when we kick their arse in October.

Or, more likely, they'll just strip off their Uterus crap, stick it in the closet, and pretend they were never fans in the first place.

I can't fathom getting violent because some nimrod is publicly proclaiming himself to be a burnt-orange queer.

I *particularly* can't fathom that violence manifesting itself as testicle-clampage.

Weirdo.

soonerinabilene
8/23/2007, 12:21 PM
ive been wondering what gdc was up to these days...

Pricetag
8/23/2007, 12:30 PM
I'm not sure if I understand the fighting technique of grabbing another mans sack.
It's one of those MMA things, isn't it? Jiujitsu or something?

Pricetag
8/23/2007, 12:32 PM
Meet LonghornBob at the private bus. He'll be waiting.
You forgot the part about paying $300 in advance.

whitehelmutsagain
8/23/2007, 12:40 PM
"An Oklahoma City man has been charged with aggravated assault and battery, accused of causing extensive damage to another man's scrotum just because he wore a University of Texas shirt into a local bar" !!!

This "SHOCKING"!!! wait til coach Beamer hears this!!!

soonerinabilene
8/23/2007, 12:42 PM
"An Oklahoma City man has been charged with aggravated assault and battery, accused of causing extensive damage to another man's scrotum just because he wore a University of Texas shirt into a local bar" !!!

This "SHOCKING"!!! wait til coach Beamer hears this!!!
huh?:confused:

OKLA21FAN
8/23/2007, 12:46 PM
blood ran down his leg.

if he was a real texas fan, he would have bled orange!

at least thats what i have heard

:pop:

MITSooner
8/23/2007, 01:08 PM
I'm just amazed that he could grab onto something so small.

Rhino
8/23/2007, 01:19 PM
Beano is about to infuriate dumb Texas fans like he did dumb Alabama fans a few years back.

NormanPride
8/23/2007, 01:30 PM
So this guy might be an aggot? That explains his fixation with a ut fan's nads.

OUmillenium
8/23/2007, 01:35 PM
This is just another example of the media hating on OU. I mean saxet gets all the love even from our own press here in the state! Just watch, this ut "fan" will show up with a big cast over his sack for the trial to get sympathy. But as soon as he gets his money, he'll blow it all on cocaine and gay bars with his buddies.

Meanwhile this OU patriot gets hung out to dry for defending the state's honor against this detritus from the south. Freakin' media bias!

Ha! not bad

OUmillenium
8/23/2007, 01:39 PM
It's one of those MMA things, isn't it? Jiujitsu or something?

Nutjitsu...a rare art passed down from its creator, Wun Hung Lo.

IndianJack
8/23/2007, 01:50 PM
Any word on what was playing on the jukebox?

I mean, just what kinda song can stand up to the ultraviolent viddie of attempted manual castration.

:D

birddog
8/23/2007, 01:52 PM
geez, right in the old tool bag.

TexasLidig8r
8/23/2007, 01:57 PM
I can't believe the insensitivity, the callousness, the complete disregard for humanity exhibited on this thread. Has society reached such a degenerated, hopeless point that we find comfort, even joy, in the misfortunates of another simply because they support an academic and athletic institution different than our own? And the admins and moderators, to whom much responsibility has been given, to see even the occasional post perpetuating such blatant and shameless conduct does this in essence, give an implicit approval for the baseless message being sent?

And if so... isn't that basically decrying conduct most often exhibited in a fraternity setting?

And yet even still, you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, f'in' hillbillies - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

Blitzkrieg
8/23/2007, 01:58 PM
It turns out this was a misunderstanding. The Sooner was digitally manipulating the horn, and her menstral cycle started.

He was indeed a she. Simple case of mistaken identity/gender.

soonernation
8/23/2007, 01:59 PM
I can't believe the insensitivity, the callousness, the complete disregard for humanity exhibited on this thread. Has society reached such a degenerated, hopeless point that we find comfort, even joy, in the misfortunates of another simply because they support an academic and athletic institution different than our own? And the admins and moderators, to whom much responsibility has been given, to see even the occasional post perpetuating such blatant and shameless conduct does this in essence, give an implicit approval for the baseless message being sent?

And if so... isn't that basically decrying conduct most often exhibited in a fraternity setting?

And yet even still, you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, f'in' hillbillies - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

GO **** YOURSELF!!!!!























































































;)

birddog
8/23/2007, 02:02 PM
Gotta love Hornfans.com (http://forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=football&Number=5153119&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=). Sarcasm must not recognized over there.

Like any Sooner fan condones this action.

some people wouldn't know sarcasm if it ripped their sack off.

soonerinabilene
8/23/2007, 02:32 PM
I can't believe the insensitivity, the callousness, the complete disregard for humanity exhibited on this thread. This guy came out of nowhere and ripped my nuts off!!! And you people crack jokes about it?? WTF? He castrated me. I am a steer now. And when you get called out for being such insensitive bastages, you make up a fancy word like "sarcasm" (whatever the hell that is) to blame it on so you dont look like such d*cks.

Im calling bs on this one. You never had balls to begin with.;)

OU Adonis
8/23/2007, 02:36 PM
Thats the hudsons I always hang out at.

goingoneight
8/23/2007, 02:49 PM
Why does thsi make news? There are fights every year at the Iron Bowl, Michigan/Ohio State, OU Texas, OU/OSU and the media always feels it necessary to bring in details about a stupid fight. The guys were in a BAR... hello? BAR!?! I wonder what in a BAR could have possibly made two guys start a fight with eachother.
Hint: 99.9% of the time, bar fights have nothing to do with someone's T-shirt.

BTW, wasn't there a Texas-to-OU fan shooting a few years back that led to the changing of the name "Red River Shootout?" I'll bet we don't remember the Oklahoma lady who was killed during RRS activities in 1985, do we? Of course not, because the article never tied OU or Texas in any fashion into that terrible situation.

cvsooner
8/23/2007, 03:00 PM
I can't believe the insensitivity, the callousness, the complete disregard for humanity exhibited on this thread. Has society reached such a degenerated, hopeless point that we find comfort, even joy, in the misfortunates of another simply because they support an academic and athletic institution different than our own? And the admins and moderators, to whom much responsibility has been given, to see even the occasional post perpetuating such blatant and shameless conduct does this in essence, give an implicit approval for the baseless message being sent?

And if so... isn't that basically decrying conduct most often exhibited in a fraternity setting?

And yet even still, you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, f'in' hillbillies - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

Nice rip-off of 'Animal House.'

Let's put it this way: we hooked 'em, horns.

cvsooner
8/23/2007, 03:01 PM
Oops. Double post.

KABOOKIE
8/23/2007, 03:12 PM
Waite a minute. Everyone knows nuts are found on a whorn’s chin. The Sooner just round-house kicked him in the chin and busted his sack in the process.

devOUt
8/23/2007, 03:48 PM
This would have been a common occurrence on Commerce Street, back in the day.

jmikeh
8/23/2007, 04:05 PM
Sooners get the first sack of the OU-TEX game.

utex74
8/23/2007, 04:12 PM
http://newsok.com/article/3108932/1187842091

While this is ridiculously excessive, I have noticed a huge increase in people wearing Texas apparel in Oklahoma since 2005. Where were all of these "fans" in 2004?

In 2004 THIS fan was still working in Austin. Didn't start working for OU until 2006. I showed this article to some of my sooner fans at work and they were appalled. I do, and will continue, to wear my Texas shirts in OKC and at work, especially as we get into football season. (I am even considering a "happy hour" at the bar with some folks in Texas shirts. Well armed people.)

But what is most surprising is that this scrotumectomy is merely "ridiculously excessive".

Wow. Just ...wow.

schlanker
8/23/2007, 04:13 PM
Totally ridiculous. How could something like this happen at such a classy establishment like Henry Hudsons. I wish there was a way to banish trash from being a fan of our University. It always seems to come out and make us look ridiculous. Maybe OU should have some sort of no mullet policy that might clean a lot of it up.

KABOOKIE
8/23/2007, 04:21 PM
In 2004 THISn was still working in Austin. Didn't start working for OU until 2006. I showed this article to some of my sooner fans at work and they were appalled. I do, and will continue, to wear my Texas shirts in OKC and at work, especially as we get into football season. (I am even considering a "happy hour" at the bar with some folks in Texas shirts. Well armed people.)

But what is most surprising is that this scrotumectomy is merely "ridiculously excessive".

Wow. Just ...wow.


Sorry bout yer sack dude.

okcusooner
8/23/2007, 04:36 PM
Many fans of major college football teams (OU, UT, FSU, SC, whatever) would do well to remember three things.

1. These teams aren't sending you a check.
2. You don't get a birthday card from the players.
3. Whether "your" team wins or loses, you probably still have to go to work
on Monday.

cvsooner
8/23/2007, 04:53 PM
Sooners get the first sack of the OU-TEX game.

Just snorted Diet Coke out of my nose. Who's gonna clean up the keyboard?

Spek.

KC//CRIMSON
8/23/2007, 05:16 PM
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m78/tds02/sad.gif

soonerloyal
8/23/2007, 05:31 PM
I'm just so appalled by this whole debacle that I'm speechless. I don't even own a nutsack and I'm in agony...

DalHorn
8/23/2007, 06:00 PM
regarding hornfans.com... most of the cool people have bailed, leaving a bunch of LH girlie clones. i.e. humorless homers. so please don't claim posters there are "typical Horn fans". Anyone who doesn't conform over there gets a swift kick in the sac from LHG or other so-called moderators.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
8/23/2007, 06:19 PM
regarding hornfans.com... most of the cool people have bailed, leaving a bunch of LH girlie clones. i.e. humorless homers. so please don't claim posters there are "typical Horn fans". Anyone who doesn't conform over there gets a swift kick in the sac from LHG or other so-called moderators.Those left to patrol that website are also the same tx fans that go to the RRS game. No wonder we like you guys so much.

devOUt
8/23/2007, 06:29 PM
Anyone who doesn't conform over there gets a swift kick in the sac from LHG or other so-called moderators.

The moderators at hf ought to consider allowing the gang at Henry Hudson's to handle that assignment.

47straight
8/23/2007, 07:14 PM
This was totally uncalled for. Such behavior is acceptable against a cocane fan and a cocane fan only.

MextheBulldog
8/23/2007, 07:19 PM
You know how I know your ghey? Cause you grab another man's scrotum.

BHud
8/23/2007, 07:42 PM
That was a punk named Trent Brosset that did the shooting (my brother went t oschool with him in IRving) and the shooting was unrelated to the RRS. It was actually a gang-related killing. He did some time, then claimed he found God, and got out in a few years.





BTW, wasn't there a Texas-to-OU fan shooting a few years back that led to the changing of the name "Red River Shootout?" I'll bet we don't remember the Oklahoma lady who was killed during RRS activities in 1985, do we? Of course not, because the article never tied OU or Texas in any fashion into that terrible situation.

sanantoniosooner
8/23/2007, 07:47 PM
Drunk A-holes are an embarrassment to all fan bases.

And anyone that goes straight for the scrote is admitting up front he doesn't have what it takes to win in a fair fight.

David Earl
8/23/2007, 07:49 PM
I just want to remind you folks there are two sides to every story. Don't assume just because the media prints something that it's fact. I know that's a shock. ;) But seriously, be aware that more facts may come to the surface here.

sanantoniosooner
8/23/2007, 07:51 PM
Yeah, the guys taint probably had a tattoo that said "RIP THIS!" on it.

He was just being helpful.

goingoneight
8/23/2007, 07:51 PM
I plead ignorance to the 2004 shooting, as like anywhere else in the country there are shootings in Dallas weekly. But I know from reading a DMN article that the Red River "Shootout" changed to the Red River "Rivalry" to make it a little more G-rated. And the same article associated the shooting as a reference to the weekend not being a smart choice to call shootout. There was something along the lines of the name changed very late, and a lot of my merchandise from the 2005 game said "Shootout," while the banners, screeens and programs all said "Rivalry."

David Earl
8/23/2007, 07:54 PM
He was just being helpful.

Or, the fellow's claims, the one side on which the story admits being based, could be a lie.

sanantoniosooner
8/23/2007, 07:55 PM
If my scrote gets ripped in a public place my story could be tainted.

goingoneight
8/23/2007, 07:56 PM
I just want to remind you folks there are two sides to every story. Don't assume just because the media prints something that it's fact. I know that's a shock. ;) But seriously, be aware that more facts may come to the surface here.

I could see Dale Hansen reporting that an Al Qaeda terrorist unit wearing Sooner crimson is out to get everyone in burnt-orange, while Dean Blevins reports it was just a bar fight.

Either way, I see it's a bar fight where two drunks let their BAC get the best of them. You have to be pretty liquored up to grab a man's package to begin with, especially in a public place. I wonder if the other guy has any black eyes or other battle scars from this senseless, little brawl. I've been to bars and restaurants for years during OU/Texas weekend and I know how and why sports fans start fighting... it has nothing to do with a hat.

David Earl
8/23/2007, 08:03 PM
I've been to bars and restaurants for years during OU/Texas weekend and I know how and why sports fans start fighting... it has nothing to do with a hat.

Well said.

Booze may have been flowing like a river. Maybe one was drunk. Maybe both were drunk. Maybe one that was drunk got *ahem* injured by another in a *ahem* desperate act of self defense. Maybe said drunk is behind on child support and found a way to twist his own foolish drunken shenanigans into a cover story for himself. We honestly don't know.

This article is a prime example of how the media fails the public miserably. One guy tells a story that sells papers. Try to call the other side; if they can't be reached in short order print the story any way. Who cares if the story is correct?!

DrZaius
8/23/2007, 08:06 PM
That's the Hudson's I used to hang out in before med school. Nothing exciting happened. Barry Sanders came in once, no one grabbed his balls though.

There has been many a brawl at Henry's. Mostly on nickel beer night, in which I have participated many of times.

goingoneight
8/23/2007, 08:14 PM
http://newsok.com/article/3108932/1187842091

While this is ridiculously excessive, I have noticed a huge increase in people wearing Texas apparel in Oklahoma since 2005. Where were all of these "fans" in 2004?


How Rivalry became violent

By Jay F. Marks
Staff Writer
The rancor in the Red River Rivalry apparently doesn't die between football or basketball seasons.

An Oklahoma City man has been charged with aggravated assault and battery, accused of causing extensive damage to another man's scrotum just because he wore a University of Texas shirt into a local bar.
Probably a pretty accurate guess between OU and TX fans drunk in a bar, but still just a guess.


Allen Michael Beckett, 53, has not been arrested on the felony charge, which was filed Monday in Oklahoma County District Court. It carries up to five years in prison if he is convicted.

Beckett is accused of having launched a verbal attack on Brian Thomas when the other man walked into Henry Hudson's Pub at 3509 NW 58 on June 17, according to court documents.

What happened
Thomas said Beckett, whom he had never met, called him "everything under the sun” for wearing a Longhorns T-shirt into the bar.
Dude, you just got your family jewels ripped open, and you're afraid to state was was suppsoedly said?

He said he and his friend sat at a table in the corner and tried to ignore the other man, but other man — who apparently is a University of Oklahoma fan — kept screaming at him.
Do we really need to put what fanbase he's associated with? What about all the OSU fans who start fights at Dirty's in downtown Tulsa?

Thomas said he decided he'd had enough after about 20 minutes of Beckett's abuse so he went to the bar to pay his tab. When he turned around, he said Beckett grabbed his crotch and refused to let go.
Grabbing someone's junk is a last-resort when you're getting your arse kicked in... they were both fighting at this point.

Thomas hit the other man several times before several bar patrons intervened, but Thomas said Beckett didn't let go until Thomas heard his scrotum tear and blood ran down his leg.
Okay, if this is a one-sided fight... who here thinks that if a guy just walks up and grabs another guy's junk that he's just going to hold it instead of guiding him out or telling him to leave? You have to be pushed oevr the edge to do something like this, or fighting for your life.

Thomas, who grew up a Texas fan, said it took more than 60 stitches to close his wound.
That's what they all say, it's irrelevant.

Two months later, he said he still is a lot of pain. The injury also caused Thomas to fall behind on his child support payments because he couldn't work.
I can imagine that yeah, this hurts like a byatch. However, I'm not buying the whole 'one-sided' fight story. Sympathy card revoked. You get in a bar argument... you have the choice to leave. What idiot stays in a bar when a bunch of drunks are 'rude' to him? A stupid one who is looking for trouble.

Beckett could not be reached for comment Wednesday by The Oklahoman.
Get well soon. Use common sense next time you feel unwelcomed or threatened in anyway. I don't buy into the lack of retaliaiton effort.


I'll bet $500 vCash that a bar fight isn't one-sided. Especially since a guy is getting pwn3d so bad he went for the kill.

David Earl
8/23/2007, 08:19 PM
G.O.8, your observations clearly point to some flaws in this story. My guess is we are not being told near all the truth and some of what we're told is not truth.

soonerboomer93
8/23/2007, 09:11 PM
GO **** YOURSELF!!!!!

sorry, correct answer is:
**** off, dip ****

CatfishSooner
8/23/2007, 09:22 PM
I would have to be really desperate to resort to ripping a man's sack open...even if he was a whorn!

KABOOKIE
8/23/2007, 10:01 PM
I'm a just sitting there drinking my drink when some dude just rips my sack.

Sure dude.

Ardmore_Sooner
8/23/2007, 11:33 PM
I never really thought the saying "Your balls are mine!" could be taken literally....

SoonerKnight
8/23/2007, 11:54 PM
I just want to remind you folks there are two sides to every story. Don't assume just because the media prints something that it's fact. I know that's a shock. ;) But seriously, be aware that more facts may come to the surface here.

yeah, there is always a good reason to rip off another man's sac:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek: :eek:

goingoneight
8/24/2007, 02:20 AM
I don't condone the behavior, I just know sports fans... this was not a one-sided deal. It was a bar-fight. Two guys who don't like eachother have a few words when sloshed. Guy A is gettign his arse kicked and he goes for the kill. It sucks that Guy B got said nutsack ripped to shreds, but Guy A is most likely not the only party at fault. How come no one stopped the fight? Was the fight a massive brawl with many other parties?
Slap in the face of OUr fanbasejust days before kickoff if you ask me. We're not all drunks who start fights. And we're most certainly not the only fanbase who has them.

KantoSooner
8/24/2007, 02:39 AM
Come back to the same key point: he was allegedly an OU fan. On what basis is this decided? Because he was making nasty remarks to a person wearing a UT shirt. And because the event happened in Oklahoma. Seems like that's all there is. For all we know, he was a rambling Southern Californian still stinging from VY's day in the sun.

As my mother would have advised in such circumstances: "You shouldn't grab people's scrotums under any circumstances. Never can tell where they've been."

Jerk
8/24/2007, 05:52 AM
Totally ridiculous. How could something like this happen at such a classy establishment like Henry Hudsons?

Heh. Funniest thing said so far.

OU Adonis
8/24/2007, 06:41 AM
The guy doing the tugging was 52 and the guy that got ripped so to speak was like 28.

tulsaoilerfan
8/24/2007, 07:04 AM
Waite a minute. Everyone knows nuts are found on a whorn’s chin. The Sooner just round-house kicked him in the chin and busted his sack in the process.
Prolly someone else's nuts on his chin. :pop:

TexasLidig8r
8/24/2007, 08:05 AM
This little fight sounds a lot like a typical Dallas lunch.

Phil
8/24/2007, 08:06 AM
Well, according to his lawyer, he was an OU fan, but he acted in self-defense. Even apologized to the guy for teasing him before the sack ripping. Threats came from the man in puke orange, according to counsel. We shall see.

colleyvillesooner
8/24/2007, 08:49 AM
This little fight sounds a lot like a typical Dallas lunch.

:les: Pipe down boy, you want your sac re-detached!!?? HOwzit is more than willing to do it again.

;)

Blitzkrieg
8/24/2007, 09:29 AM
Was it Less Miles? I always wondered what "Let 'er rip" was in reference to?

UTisLousy
8/24/2007, 09:32 AM
Long live Beck the Ripper! Let it be a warning to all Texas fans to wear a cup in Oklahoma bars because Becks on the prowl looking for his next victim. Thomas is just lucky Mike Tyson wasn't there with a saltshaker in his hand.

Tear Down This Wall
8/24/2007, 09:36 AM
Why isn't this thread locked?

douxpaysan
8/24/2007, 09:40 AM
The guy doing the tugging was 52 and the guy that got ripped so to speak was like 28.
and what'sup with the 59 year old college football player...this all could be gang related(i.e. 2004 RRS)...over-the hill gang scores first sack of young sooner season.

stoopified
8/24/2007, 10:14 AM
This story has to be pure BS.

We all know Texas fans have no balls, so why would they have a need for a scrotum?Exactly.

TexasLidig8r
8/24/2007, 11:27 AM
Do I have to do everything on here.. I can't believe no one has yet posted this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opUWb_1QeIY

:D

OUmillenium
8/24/2007, 11:33 AM
I can't believe the insensitivity, the callousness, the complete disregard for humanity exhibited on this thread. Has society reached such a degenerated, hopeless point that we find comfort, even joy, in the misfortunates of another simply because they support an academic and athletic institution different than our own? And the admins and moderators, to whom much responsibility has been given, to see even the occasional post perpetuating such blatant and shameless conduct does this in essence, give an implicit approval for the baseless message being sent?

And if so... isn't that basically decrying conduct most often exhibited in a fraternity setting?

And yet even still, you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, f'in' hillbillies - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

...blo(cough)job!

OUmillenium
8/24/2007, 11:47 AM
Enough of this nutty behavior, already

whitehelmutsagain
8/24/2007, 11:57 AM
Why does thsi make news? There are fights every year at the Iron Bowl, Michigan/Ohio State, OU Texas, OU/OSU and the media always feels it necessary to bring in details about a stupid fight. The guys were in a BAR... hello? BAR!?! I wonder what in a BAR could have possibly made two guys start a fight with eachother.
Hihttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/hunter_/051230_peachbowl_hmed_10p.hmedium.jpgnt: 99.9% of the time, bar fights have nothing to do with someone's T-shirt.
The

whitehelmutsagain
8/24/2007, 11:58 AM
Why does thsi make news? There are fights every year at the Iron Bowl, Michigan/Ohio State, OU Texas, OU/OSU and the media always feels it necessary to bring in details about a stupid fight. The guys were in a BAR... hello? BAR!?! I wonder what in a BAR could have possibly made two guys start a fight with eachother.
Hihttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/hunter_/051230_peachbowl_hmed_10p.hmedium.jpgnt: 99.9% of the time, bar fights have nothing to do with someone's T-shirt.
The Post Peachbowl Brawl started by the Cane finished by the Tig

OklahomaTuba
8/27/2007, 08:11 AM
HAHA!

It made drudge.

www.drudgereport.com

cvsooner
8/27/2007, 02:47 PM
Huh. The other side of the story, apparently.

http://www.nbc5i.com/sports/13968715/detail.html?better_headline

OKLAHOMA CITY, Okla. -- Aggravated assault charges have been filed against a church deacon and University of Oklahoma Sooners fan after officials say he grabbed a University of Texas fan between the legs during a scuffle in an Oklahoma bar.

A couple of months before the annual Red River Shootout between the Sooners and Longhorns, words were exchanged at Henry Hudson's Pub between Allen Beckett, 53, and Brian Thomas. Witnesses said it was because Thomas was wearing a UT T-shirt.

Neither Thomas or Beckett chose to comment, but the police report described what happened to the victim, including graphic details about his injuries that included a torn scrotal sack with partially exposed testicles.

Beckett's attorney, Billy Bock, said his client's actions were in self-defense.

"Sure, he's an OU fan. Not necessarily an overboard die-hard OU fan, but he certainly admits he said something in a joking fashion to the guy about his Texas T-shirt. The guy got offended. He said he was sorry," said Bock.

Bock said the apology apparently wasn't enough for the Texas fan and the man then approached his client. He said his client then grabbed the man in self-defense.

"The guy came over his other shoulder, and basically said, 'I'm getting ready to kick your you-know-what.' He said he felt threatened and he did what he thought he needed to do and grabbed him and left the bar," said Bock.

Bock adds that his client isn't a hardened criminal, but is a church deacon who makes his living as a government auditor who had gone to the bar that night for one reason -- to play darts.

colleyvillesooner
8/27/2007, 03:03 PM
No way! The lawyer for the guy charged says that's not how it went down!

;)

LosAngelesSooner
9/12/2007, 02:01 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3587274


Football Rivalry at Center of Bar Fight


Oklahoma-Texas Football Rivalry at Center of Bar Fight, Gruesome Injury


By SEAN MURPHY Associated Press Writer
OKLAHOMA CITY Sep 11, 2007 (AP)

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To some Oklahoma football fans, there are things that just aren't done in the heart of Sooner Nation, and one of them is to walk into a bar wearing a Texas Longhorns T-shirt.


That's exactly what touched off a bloody skirmish that left a Texas-shirt-wearing fan nearly castrated and an Oklahoma fan facing aggravated assault charges that could put him in prison for up to five years.
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The shocking case has set off a raging debate in this football-crazed region about the extreme passions behind a bitter rivalry. Some legal observers have even questioned whether this case could ever truly have an impartial jury.


"I've actually heard callers on talk radio say that this guy deserved what he got for wearing a Texas T-shirt into a bar in the middle of Sooner country," said Irven Box, an attorney in this city 20 miles from Oklahoma's campus in Norman.


According to police, 32-year-old Texas fan Brian Christopher Thomas walked into Henry Hudson's Pub on June 17 wearing a Longhorns T-shirt and quickly became the focus of football "trash talk" from another regular, 53-year-old Oklahoma fan Allen Michael Beckett.


Thomas told police that when he decided to leave and went to the bar to pay his tab, Beckett grabbed him in the crotch, pulled him to the ground and wouldn't let go, even as bar patrons tried to break it up. When the two men were separated, Thomas looked down and realized the extent of his injuries.


"He could see both of his testicles hanging on the outside of his body," said Thomas' attorney, Carl Hughes. "He was wearing a pair of white shorts, which made it that much worse."


It took more than 60 stitches to close the wound, and police interviewed Thomas at a nearby hospital emergency room.


Beckett's attorney, Billy Bock, concedes that his client commented about Thomas' shirt, but said it was just good-natured ribbing and that he apologized to Thomas when it appeared to upset the Texas fan. Later, Bock said Thomas approached his client at the bar and threatened him.


"My client is a little man, and this guy (Thomas) is 30 to 40 pounds bigger than him," Bock said. "He's bigger, stronger, younger and probably faster, and he aggressively leaned in and touched my client and threatened to beat him up. ... My guy was defending himself and just took control of the situation."


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Thomas' attorney disputes Beckett's version.


"That's total malarkey," Hughes said. "My client never said a word to him. He got up to pay and when he paid and left a tip, the guy grabbed him."
Beckett, a 53-year-old church deacon, federal auditor and former Army combat veteran, has pleaded not guilty. His next court appearance comes Oct. 4, two days before the Sooners and Horns tangle in their annual football game at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.


Thomas, who once lived in Houston and became a Texas fan during the heyday of star running back Earl Campbell, is still recovering from his injuries but has returned to work as a meat cutter at a Sam's Club warehouse store.


Like Beckett and Thomas, many fans of the two college squads never attended either university, but have come to identify so closely with these teams that they attach banners to their cars, wear team colors on game day and even have programmed their car horns to play school fight songs.
Dallas police Sgt. Andy Harvey, a 12-year veteran of the force, said it's not uncommon for fights to break out between fans of the two schools.
"People are passionate about their teams and their universities, and that's a good thing," he said, "but when you mix a real passionate sports fan and then get a little alcohol in there, sometimes it's not a good mix."
On both Texas and Oklahoma fan Web sites, boosters trade familiar tales of having their car tires slashed or windshields smashed for sporting the opposing team's sticker in enemy territory.


Assistant District Attorney Scott Rowland said the rivalry will have no bearing on the way the case is prosecuted.


"It appears that it played a part in the fight," he said, "but that won't play any more of a role in our handling of the case than would a fight over a girl or a car or a song on the jukebox."

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.



This reads like an article from the Onion. Seriously...the guy is a MEAT CUTTER.



I can't believe it...