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Okla-homey
7/29/2007, 10:16 AM
July 29, 1588: Spanish Armada pwn3d

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519 years ago today, in an epic "David v. Goliath" naval action off the coast of Gravelines, France, Spain's so-called "Invincible Armada" is defeated by an English naval force under the command of Lord Charles Howard and Sir Francis Drake.

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Smaller, but better-gunned and more maneuverable English ships beating to meet and challenge the massive but ponderous Armada

After eight hours of furious fighting, a change in wind direction prompted the Spanish to break off from the battle and retreat toward the North Sea. Its hopes of invasion crushed, the remnants of the Spanish Armada began a long and difficult journey back to Spain.

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In the late 1580s, English raids against Spanish commerce and Queen Elizabeth I's support of the Dutch rebels in the Spanish Netherlands led King Philip II of Spain to plan the conquest of England.

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King Philip II of Spain. The Hapsburg royal was sick of English meddling in his affairs and decided to put the royal smackdown on the island nation.

Pope Sixtus V gave his blessing to what was called "The Enterprise of England," which he hoped would bring the Protestant isle back into the fold of Rome. A giant Spanish invasion fleet was completed by 1587, but Sir Francis Drake's daring raid on the Armada's supplies in the port of Cadiz delayed the Armada's departure until May 1588.

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Pope Sixtus V gave his blessing for the attempted invasion. If the Spainish had prevailed, England would have been forced to accept the Catholic faith.

On May 19, the Invincible Armada set sail from Lisbon on a mission to secure control of the English Channel and transport a Spanish army to the British isle from Flanders. The fleet was under the command of the Duke of Medina-Sidonia and consisted of 130 ships carrying 2,500 guns, 8,000 seamen, and almost 20,000 soldiers.

The Spanish ships were slower and less well armed than their English counterparts, but they planned to force boarding actions if the English offered battle, and the superior Spanish infantry would undoubtedly prevail. Delayed by storms that temporarily forced it back to Spain, the Armada did not reach the southern coast of England until July 19. By that time, the British were ready.

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The reproduction of Numba One "sea-dog" Sir Francis Drake's ship, the Golden Hinde, is berthed on the south bank of the Thames River in London, England, near the Millennium Bridge and the reproduction of Shakespeare's Globe Theater.

On July 21, the English navy began bombarding the seven-mile-long line of Spanish ships from a safe distance, taking full advantage of their long-range heavy guns. The Spanish Armada continued to advance during the next few days, but its ranks were thinned by the English assault. On July 27, the Armada anchored in exposed position off Calais, France, and the Spanish army prepared to embark from Flanders. Without control of the Channel, however, their passage to England would be impossible.

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Lord Charles Howard, Earl of Nottingham. He and Drake pulled off the victory versus the much larger force.

Just after midnight on July 29, the English sent eight burning ships into the crowded harbor at Calais. The panicked Spanish ships were forced to cut their anchors and sail out to sea to avoid catching fire. The disorganized fleet, completely out of formation, was attacked by the English off Gravelines at dawn.

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Sir Francis Drake. A personal favorite of The Virgin Queen, Drake had circumnavigated the Earth in 1581. He was a true English sea-dog having served as the "Queen's Pirate" filling English coffers with gold taken from Spanish possessions around the globe. He won immortality on this day when he and Lord Howard saved their country from invasion

In a decisive battle, the superior English guns won the day, and the devastated Armada was forced to retreat north to Scotland. The English navy pursued the Spanish as far as Scotland and then turned back for want of supplies.

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An armada ship about to founder on Irish rocks

Battered by storms and suffering from a dire lack of supplies, the Armada sailed on a hard journey back to Spain around Scotland and Ireland. Some of the damaged ships foundered in the sea while others were driven onto the coast of Ireland and wrecked. By the time the last of the surviving fleet reached Spain in October, half of the original Armada was lost and some 15,000 men had perished.

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HM Elizabeth I smirks as the Armada (in the background) gets hammered by her hardy English sea-dogs

Queen Elizabeth's decisive defeat of the Invincible Armada made England a world-class power and introduced effective long-range weapons into naval warfare for the first time, ending the era of boarding and close-quarter fighting.

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Monument to Armada sailors who made it to the relative safety of the Irish coast. The Irish (also Catholic of course) extended the Spanish survivors some courtesies...in fact, there are Irishmen of Spanish ancestry living in Ireland yet today.

Jerk
7/29/2007, 10:57 AM
If it were not for this, there is a decent chance we'd all be speaking Spanish and tithing to the Pope today.

Harry Beanbag
7/29/2007, 11:00 AM
If it were not for this, there is a decent chance we'd all be speaking Spanish and tithing to the Pope today.


The way things are going, we'll be doing that anyway in another 50 years or so.

Okla-homey
7/29/2007, 11:59 AM
The way things are going, we'll be doing that anyway in another 50 years or so.

Zang!

TUSooner
7/29/2007, 12:17 PM
Really cool. I have often imagined that Sir Francis was "mechanically reincarnated" as this
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Supermarine Spitfire

Okla-homey
7/29/2007, 12:21 PM
Really cool. I have often imagined that Sir Francis was "mechanically reincarnated" as this
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Supermarine Spitfire

Cool, but this one is prolly more appropos. Given there were three Hawker Hurricanes for every Spitfire in the RAF during the BoB. And the fact what was left of the Armada was done in by a bad storm.;)

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SoonerStormchaser
7/29/2007, 12:21 PM
And that explains why some Irish have BLACK hair.

Okla-homey
7/29/2007, 12:24 PM
And that explains why some Irish have BLACK hair.

You are correct sir. BTW, there were also quite a few ex-pat Irish and their progeny who fought for Mexico during her various wars for independence from Spain and France. Thus, Carlos Murphy and Manuel O'Kelly.;)

royalfan5
7/29/2007, 12:30 PM
You are correct sir. BTW, there were also quite a few ex-pat Irish and their progeny who fought for Mexico during her various wars for independence from Spain and France. Thus, Carlos Murphy and Manuel O'Kelly.;)
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't there a contingent of Irishmen that defected during the Mexican-American War? I believe the leaders of the group were hung by the Americans during the fight for Mexico City.

Okla-homey
7/29/2007, 12:51 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't there a contingent of Irishmen that defected during the Mexican-American War? I believe the leaders of the group were hung by the Americans during the fight for Mexico City.

Maybe, but I'm not aware of it. During the Civil War, lots of newly arrived Irish fought. Many of their leaders did so to help gain combat experience for an intended return to Ireland and subsequent armed insurrection to overthrow British rule. There were even documented secretive plans to take discharged battle-hardened Irish regiments north into Canada after the war ended to hurt the Brits up there. None of it ever came to pass.

royalfan5
7/29/2007, 12:54 PM
Maybe, but I'm not aware of it. During the Civil War, lots of newly arrived Irish fought. Many of their leaders did so to help gain combat experience for an intended return to Ireland and subsequent armed insurrection to overthrow British rule. There were even documented secretive plans to take discharged battle-hardened Irish regiments north into Canada after the war ended to hurt the Brits up there. None of it ever came to pass.
All my books are boxed up, so I will have poke around for my Mexican-American War book (Published by the OU) that talks about it.

royalfan5
7/29/2007, 12:56 PM
It was the St. Patrick's Battalion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick's_Battalion

Okla-homey
7/29/2007, 12:58 PM
Yep, Google is my friend.

http://www.case.edu/affil/sce/Texts_2002/Bender.html

Okla-homey
7/29/2007, 04:55 PM
...also on this day, though undocumented, at the first English colony in North America on Roanoke Island in modern NC, little Virginia Dare’s* father is praying for the pinnace Brave's top-rigged lateens to appear on the horizon heralding its arrival with food, clothing, medicines and other badly needed supplies.

About three months earlier, the colony's ship Brave had embarked home to England to load and return with supplies necessary to survive the coming winter and return before the height of hurricane season.

No sails will be seen by little Virginia's dad. The colony's shareholders had been unable to organize a desperately needed re-provisioning shipment due to the Spanish threat that had induced the Crown to confiscate all vessels for the war effort.

When English ships next make landfall at Roanoke in 1590, no trace of the colonists will ever be found. The fate of the Roanoke colonists remains one of the most poignant and compelling mysteries in American history.

*Virginia Dare was the first documented English child born in the New World.

TUSooner
7/29/2007, 07:40 PM
Cool, but this one is prolly more appropos. Given there were three Hawker Hurricanes for every Spitfire in the RAF during the BoB. And the fact what was left of the Armada was done in by a bad storm.;)

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Exactly! I was thinking the same even as I did my GIS for supermarine spitfire. And I reckoned you to be the guy who would mention it. :D
It's kinda like the B-17 got all the press while the "ugly" B-24's were the busiest hosses. But speaking of the B-17, "Twelve O'Clock High" has to be one of the best war flicks EVER.

TUSooner
7/29/2007, 07:43 PM
You are correct sir. BTW, there were also quite a few ex-pat Irish and their progeny who fought for Mexico during her various wars for independence from Spain and France. Thus, Carlos Murphy and Manuel O'Kelly.;)
The first Spanish Governor of Louisiana (in 17??) was "Alejandro O'Reilly." :D

SoonerStormchaser
7/29/2007, 09:40 PM
Explains Bernardo O'Higgins down in Chile.

critical_phil
7/29/2007, 09:58 PM
hey catholics:


SUCK IT.

Vaevictis
7/29/2007, 09:59 PM
And that explains why some Irish have BLACK hair.

But probably only a very few of them.

There were Irish with black hair in the story tradition long before the Armada. IIRC, the black hair was often attributed to the fairies, and was a sign that you had been saddled with a changeling. :)

47straight
7/30/2007, 05:23 PM
Take me Tyburn and hang me.