Dumbest doctor EVAR

[TopDaugIn2000]

A few of you may remember my telling you about my aunt that had the stroke while visiting her daughter in Vegas last September. She got to come home to eastern OK back in January, and is doing pretty well considering (still paralyzed on the left side though). We found out a couple of months ago she has 3 more aneurysms waiting to happen so she's not supposed to have ANY stress or worries.

She's been seeing a doc in tulsa to monitor everything. Last week he scheduled her for an MRI and some blood work, but said they could go to Sallisaw to have it done since it's so much closer for them (she doesn't travel all that well). They go get the bloodwork, but the MRI tech refuses to do the MRI, but doesn't really tell them why. My uncle calls the doc in Tulsa to tell him they couldn't get it done, and then the doc goes "oh yeah, she has metal in her head, that would've killed her". HUH?!?!?!?!?! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!! This doc PUT IT THERE! An MRI is a huge MAGNET!!!!!! My uncle was furious, as expected. Then the dumbass doc said "Well, both of you were there when I scheduled it and didn't say anything....." My uncle was like "YOU ARE THE ****ING DOCTOR!!!!!!"

Luckily the tech in Sallisaw had enough sense not to do the test. DAYUM.

[Mongo]

OUDoc was about to get ****ed

[NormanPride]

I bet that would give you the worst tinny taste in your mouth.

[LilSooner]

99.9% of docs are idiots.



















Oh wait that's cops my bad :)

[OUDoc]

I've done that before (although I've never put the metal in anyone's head). That what the pre-MRI questionnaire is used for. Unfortunately, sometimes people slip through and make it to the procedure before anyone catches it.

[Chuck Bao]

That's a horrible story TD2K! Thank god it turned out for the best.

About two years ago, I had to do an MRI and from the questionnaire I knew that I had to take my Prince Albert off. Except, I couldn't by myself and had to ask my tattoo artist friend and another dude to pry the thing open with plyiers. That was really bad, but not as bad as the thought of what would happen if I didn't take it off.

[OKC-SLC]

I've done that before (although I've never put the metal in anyone's head). That what the pre-MRI questionnaire is used for. Unfortunately, sometimes people slip through and make it to the procedure before anyone catches it.
Indeed, there are a lot of metal objects getting put into people these days. Some of which, I might add, are safe for MRI. But that's why there's a questionnaire.

[soonerbrat]

hmm...maybe not as dumb as my grandmother's doctor..who knowing she hadn't eaten a single thing in a week and was chronically dehydrated gave her a diuretic to treat cellulitis. and didn't even SUGGEST admitting her to the hospital, even though he supposedly took labs every visit. if he really checked the labs, he would've seen that she was in renal and liver failure. it took me going to talk to him to get her admitted to the hospital. and he admitted her to a PSYCH ward because she had Alzheimer's. the psychiatraist immediately had her admitted to medicine.

[Hamhock]

That's a horrible story TD2K! Thank god it turned out for the best.

About two years ago, I had to do an MRI and from the questionnaire I knew that I had to take my Prince Albert off. Except, I couldn't by myself and had to ask my tattoo artist friend and another dude to pry the thing open with plyiers. That was really bad, but not as bad as the thought of what would happen if I didn't take it off.


what is a prince albert?

[OUDoc]

what is a prince albert?
NOOOOOO!!!!!

[Hamhock]

NOOOOOO!!!!!


i purposely didn't google it.

somebody give me the pg version.

[Chuck Bao]

NOOOOOO!!!!!

Yeah, another thread and a much later day. And, probably not a good idea to google it either. My point was MRI and PA not good.

Now back to TD2K's aunt's doc...

[OKC-SLC]

i purposely didn't google it.

somebody give me the pg version.
I pee out of one hole.

Chuck's pee has options.

[TexasSooner01]

This world is full of dumb doctors. I spent the night in the ER with my oldest boy last night. His tounge was stiff, slurred speach and his eyes were rolling into his head. I was scared out of my mind so took him to t he ER. Well we get into see the doc and he said lets take an xray of his throat and monitor his vitals. Now i am not a doc BUT WTF is an xray of his throat gonna tell you about why his eyes are rolling into his head? they said that there was nothing wrong so Needless to say that was a waste of 6 hours I will never get back.

Went to my son's doc today...he ordered an EEG and some blood work. Doc told me i should turn the ER in for unethical conduct. I just want to know what is going on with my boy!!!

I will never go to that ER again!!! Frickin worthless!!!

[Hamhock]

here's the deal.

you and I screw up at our jobs every single day, just like doctors.

[TopDaugIn2000]

yeah, but I don't kill people......

[TexasSooner01]

If i screwed up every single day...i wouldnt have a job.

[Chuck Bao]

I'm a screw-up, every day. But, I'm not as bad as my doctors.

My doctors, they jump to conclusions about the worst case possible and get me to pay for the most expensive tests possible. That's out of my own pocket since I don't have insurance.

They then rule out that bad case scenario and give me some pills and say if it isn't any better in a couple days then come back.

Like this last Wednesday, my leg was very painful and swelling up like balloon. My doctor says I have a trombone something like a blood clot. We do an ultra sound and my veins are fine. So, he says it's just an infection, take some antibiotics and come back tomorrow.

The next day, it's not better and he says take some more antibiotics and come back tomorrow.

I've lost all confidence.

[1stTimeCaller]

sometimes people make mistakes TDin2K.

There was no harm, no foul just a little wasted time involved there.

Hamhock, the Prince Albert would be like piercing your finger through the fingernail. But on your weenis.

[crawfish]

Yeah, another thread and a much later day. And, probably not a good idea to google it either. My point was MRI and PA not good.

Now back to TD2K's aunt's doc...

You know...I THOUGHT wikipedia would be safe.

Silly me. :eek:

[OKC-SLC]

I'm a screw-up, every day. But, I'm not as bad as my doctors.

My doctors, they jump to conclusions about the worst case possible and get me to pay for the most expensive tests possible. That's out of my own pocket since I don't have insurance.

They then rule out that bad case scenario and give me some pills and say if it isn't any better in a couple days then come back.

Like this last Wednesday, my leg was very painful and swelling up like balloon. My doctor says I have a trombone something like a blood clot. We do an ultra sound and my veins are fine. So, he says it's just an infection, take some antibiotics and come back tomorrow.

The next day, it's not better and he says take some more antibiotics and come back tomorrow.

I've lost all confidence.
At the risk of ruining the mood of the thread, ruling out bad/worst case scenarios first, then managing conservatively those cases which aren't life-threatening, are kind of at the core of our profession. This is not to mention the legal risk of missing even the rarest of life-threatening disorders.

Healthy young men with a swollen leg for no other reason is a deep venous thrombosis (vein blood clot) until proven otherwise. These can and do go to the lungs and kill people. This is why your doc ordered the u/s. Infection of the tissue below the skin (cellulitis) is another common cause, and it's reasonable to start antibiotics and keep a close eye on it because some infections can turn south quickly.

That said, I do hope your leg gets better, and I'm glad no clot was seen.

[Frozen Sooner]

I'm a screw-up, every day. But, I'm not as bad as my doctors.

My doctors, they jump to conclusions about the worst case possible and get me to pay for the most expensive tests possible. That's out of my own pocket since I don't have insurance.

They then rule out that bad case scenario and give me some pills and say if it isn't any better in a couple days then come back.

You DO realize that they order tests to keep from getting sued, right? If you come in with symptoms that present for a head cold 99% of the time and for hantavirus 1% of the time, if they treat you for head cold when you actually had hantavirus your estate is going to sue them into Bolivian. Which really, is the way it should be. I personally think it's a good idea to make sure I'm not actually dying if it's possible that I am.

[Okla-homey]

i purposely didn't google it.

somebody give me the pg version.


Like many other male genital piercings, it has a history of practice in gay culture in the twentieth century and became known outside that culture at the same time that body piercing began to emerge in popular culture in the late 1970s. The relatively easy procedure, rapid healing and claims of additional sexual stimulation (both to the wearer and his partner in sexual intercourse) attributed to this piercing have come to make the Prince Albert the most common gay male genital piercing.

NTTAWWT

[Chuck Bao]

At the risk of ruining the mood of the thread, ruling out bad/worst case scenarios first, then managing conservatively those cases which aren't life-threatening, are kind of at the core of our profession. This is not to mention the legal risk of missing even the rarest of life-threatening disorders.

Healthy young men with a swollen leg for no other reason is a deep venous thrombosis (vein blood clot) until proven otherwise. These can and do go to the lungs and kill people. This is why your doc ordered the u/s. Infection of the tissue below the skin (cellulitis) is another common cause, and it's reasonable to start antibiotics and keep a close eye on it because some infections can turn south quickly.

That said, I do hope your leg gets better, and I'm glad no clot was seen.

I'm just hating on myself for this thread jack, but I need to respond to a few posts.

What you wrote, OKC-SLC, is probably what the best and brightest would say, as I assume you are. I think my beef is that my hospital, which touts itself as one of the best, consistently does this.

I'm paying already close to 15% of my salary directly to this hospital and the odd thing is that health care is about one-third cheaper than the US.

My point about loss of confidence is that why, indeed, would I suddenly develop cellulitis and why it isn't apparently responding to antibiotics. You know, I want to know the cause and just not treat the symptoms.

[Chuck Bao]

Like many other male genital piercings, it has a history of practice in gay culture in the twentieth century and became known outside that culture at the same time that body piercing began to emerge in popular culture in the late 1970s. The relatively easy procedure, rapid healing and claims of additional sexual stimulation (both to the wearer and his partner in sexual intercourse) attributed to this piercing have come to make the Prince Albert the most common gay male genital piercing.

NTTAWWT

As I know you're a respected history buff, I'm kinda disappointed in that effort.

Oh, NTTAWWT too!

[skycat]

Sorry, but I have to ask:

Has your Prince Albert ever been in a can?

[mdklatt]

What do you call the guy that graduates at the bottom of his medical school class?

Doctor.

:twinkies:

[Okla-homey]

Sorry, but I have to ask:

Has your Prince Albert ever been in a can?

ZANG!

[Okla-homey]

What do you call the guy that graduates at the bottom of his medical school class?

Doctor.

:twinkies:

I'm just very happy people are still going to medical school and becoming doctors. Those people put food on my table. ;)

[OUDoc]

I'm just very happy people are still going to medical school and becoming doctors. Those people put food on my table. ;)
To quote Stripes:

One of these men may save your life
one of these days, understand?

Then again, maybe one of us won't.;)

[Okla-homey]

To quote Stripes:

One of these men may save your life
one of these days, understand?

Then again, maybe one of us won't.;)

are you a PLICO member? if not, you should be. That company don't play.

[FaninAma]

In all fairness I think every poster on this thread should list their profession so we can all have an equal opportunity to take shots at said profession(s).

With all due respect to Homey, I really don't think that will be necessary for the legal profession. ;)

Are there bad doctors out there? Sure there are. The biggest obstacle to getting bad doctors out of the business is that if you don't have a completely iron clad case against a bad doctor, that doctor will take you and the rest of the utilization review committe to court quicker than you can say "talk to my lawyer."

BTW, if you don't think bad doctors are penalized by state medical boards at a fairly high rate you need to go on line and check out the monthly disciplinary listing of your state's medical examiner board. I can guarantee you that you'll find far more doctors listed than you will attorney's on the equivalent disciplinary pages of the monthly publication of the State Bar in your state.

Just sayin'.

[Okla-homey]

In all fairness I think every poster on this thread should list their profession so we can all have an equal opportunity to take shots at said profession(s).

With all due respect to Homey, I really don't think that will be necessary for the legal profession. ;)

Are there bad doctors out there? Sure there are. The biggest obstacle to getting bad doctors out of the business is that if you don't have a completely iron clad case against a bad doctor, that doctor will take you and the rest of the utilization review committe to court quicker than you can say "talk to my lawyer."

BTW, if you don't think bad doctors are penalized by state medical boards at a fairly high rate you need to go on line and check out the monthly disciplinary listing of your state's medical examiner board. I can guarantee you that you'll find far more doctors listed than you will attorney's on the equivalent disciplinary pages of the monthly publication of the State Bar in your state.

Just sayin'.

I generally agree, however, the OBA is far more likely to dis-bar or suspend a guy than the OMA is to cut loose a goober physician. Just sayin'

[OUDoc]

are you a PLICO member? if not, you should be. That company don't play.
Yes, I am.

[soonerbrat]

you know what they call the guy that graduates last in his medical school class?


Doctor.

[soonerboomer93]

This one is for Ike...


A college physics professor was explaining a particularly complicated concept to his class when a pre-med student interrupted him.
"Why do we have to learn this stuff?" the frustrated student blurted out.
"To save lives," the professor responded before continuing the lecture.
A few minutes later the student spoke up again. "So how does physics save lives?"
The professor stared at the student without saying a word. "Physics saves lives," he finally continued, "because it keeps the idiots out of medical school."

[TopDaugIn2000]

In all fairness I think every poster on this thread should list their profession so we can all have an equal opportunity to take shots at said profession(s).

With all due respect to Homey, I really don't think that will be necessary for the legal profession. ;)

Are there bad doctors out there? Sure there are. The biggest obstacle to getting bad doctors out of the business is that if you don't have a completely iron clad case against a bad doctor, that doctor will take you and the rest of the utilization review committe to court quicker than you can say "talk to my lawyer."

BTW, if you don't think bad doctors are penalized by state medical boards at a fairly high rate you need to go on line and check out the monthly disciplinary listing of your state's medical examiner board. I can guarantee you that you'll find far more doctors listed than you will attorney's on the equivalent disciplinary pages of the monthly publication of the State Bar in your state.

Just sayin'.

you said penal......

[achiro]

It's good to know that even the "real doctors" get the wrath around here as well.:D

[olevetonahill]

It's good to know that even the "real doctors" get the wrath around here as well.:D
Yea but you qaucktapackers dont generally Kill folks . Ya just cripple em :P

[Harry Beanbag]

My wife's cousin went to the ER on Monday, complaining of headaches, fever, lowered urine output, and yellowing skin (BTW he's a nurse and only has one kidlney). The hospital sent him home because there wasn't a urologist in the building (at 2:00pm).

[MamaMia]

I miss the good old days when a physician actually took the time to concentrate more about their patients than cashing payment checks. I haven't been able to find a decent family physician since my doctor passed away.

[stoopified]

It is a sad fact that half of all doctors practicing out there graduated in the bottom half of their class. :) My question is why do I always seem to get THE ANCHOR MAN(guy who finshes dead last in his class).

[Okla-homey]

Yes, I am.

then you sir, are in good hands.

[Frozen Sooner]

It is a sad fact that half of all doctors practicing out there graduated in the bottom half of their class. :) My question is why do I always seem to get THE ANCHOR MAN(guy who finshes dead last in his class).

More than that: the real bright ones are teaching. :D

[OUinFLA]

I miss the good old days when a physician actually took the time to concentrate more about their patients than cashing payment checks. I haven't been able to find a decent family physician since my doctor passed away.

I've been enrolled in VA Medical for the past 5 years.
Best move I ever made.

My primary care physician is great. He was in the local Regional Private Hospital Group before he took the postion with VA. He is thrilled to be there. He spends his days being a diagnostician/preventive care doctor. He makes the initial diagnosis and then sends me to a specialist within the hospital. He says he is thrilled to be able to keep all his appointments, and he is doing what he likes best. When more intense needs are necessary for his patients, he passes them up the line to the specialist, and doesn't have to break away from his appointments to follow up.

They have one of the best computer systems I have experienced. If I have to have an X-ray, he sends me down there. I have had to wait no more than 15 minutes to get an X-ray. Then by the time I walk back to his office, he has the results on his screen.

Every phase of care has been through, and more importantly, on time. If my appointment is at 9:30..... then by 9:30, Im sitting in his office.

I know there has been some bad press lately up at Walter Reed, but here in Tampa, I have never heard anyone say anything but good about their care and their doctors.

If you're a Vet, you will be doing yourself a service by getting enrolled in the nearest VA facility.

5-6 years ago they were encouraging all vets to get enrolled as they didn't have enough patients to justify their facilities. Now, Im hearing they are filling up fast and there may be a waiting period to get enrolled.

Oh, and I save a bundle on Health Insurance.

[olevetonahill]

I've been enrolled in VA Medical for the past 5 years.
Best move I ever made.

My primary care physician is great. He was in the local Regional Private Hospital Group before he took the postion with VA. He is thrilled to be there. He spends his days being a diagnostician/preventive care doctor. He makes the initial diagnosis and then sends me to a specialist within the hospital. He says he is thrilled to be able to keep all his appointments, and he is doing what he likes best. When more intense needs are necessary for his patients, he passes them up the line to the specialist, and doesn't have to break away from his appointments to follow up.

They have one of the best computer systems I have experienced. If I have to have an X-ray, he sends me down there. I have had to wait no more than 15 minutes to get an X-ray. Then by the time I walk back to his office, he has the results on his screen.

Every phase of care has been through, and more importantly, on time. If my appointment is at 9:30..... then by 9:30, Im sitting in his office.

I know there has been some bad press lately up at Walter Reed, but here in Tampa, I have never heard anyone say anything but good about their care and their doctors.

If you're a Vet, you will be doing yourself a service by getting enrolled in the nearest VA facility.

5-6 years ago they were encouraging all vets to get enrolled as they didn't have enough patients to justify their facilities. Now, Im hearing they are filling up fast and there may be a waiting period to get enrolled.

Oh, and I save a bundle on Health Insurance.

I agree with you
But 15, 20 yrs ago the V.A. wasnt the place to go .
Theve came a long way , And do provide excelent Care

[FaninAma]

More than that: the real bright ones are teaching. :D

I haven't exactly figured out what constructive activity all of the bright attorneys are engaged in, yet. Any help from the board barristers regarding this issue would be greatly appreciated.:D

[StoopTroup]

As far as I know about Medical Schools...

They are chock full of PHDs who are teaching the Medical Community at large.

If I'm wrong about that...I'm sure I'll be corrected.

Most Doctors practice instead of teach...

I do know that Intern and Residency Programs are where most Doctors get their hands on training. If you have a Doctor who won't let you touch patients...then your probably getting a Doctor with very little training.

I bet it's awful for an Intern or Resident who chooses the wrong Doctor to study under.

[soonerboomer93]

I haven't exactly figured out what constructive activity all of the bright attorneys are engaged in, yet. Any help from the board barristers regarding this issue would be greatly appreciated.:D

Phil owns this message board...

WIN

[Okla-homey]

I haven't exactly figured out what constructive activity all of the bright attorneys are engaged in, yet. Any help from the board barristers regarding this issue would be greatly appreciated.:D

Consider this. The Constitution of the United States as drafted by the framers is silent on health care. It says nothing about public schools. Not a word about gubmint food if you're hungry and have no money to buy food. Nadda on government housing even if it's snowing and you're homeless.

It does, however, guarentee you a lawyer if you're charged with a crime and can't afford one. VI Amendment (1791).

[Rogue]

Sorry, but I have to ask:

Has your Prince Albert ever been in a can?

Triple-entendre comedy greatness right there! [for answer, see sig below]


Yes, the VA system is very good. See, we have a huge interest in preventive medicine since you will be our patient from now on. My private ins. company on the other hand...not so much.