Boren and Stoops messages

[The Maestro]

Sorry for the new thread but this seemed pertinent...and worked so well after the Oregon debacle...

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071107aaa.html

Statement
OU President David L. Boren
Wednesday, July 11, 2007

“It is appropriate that the action taken today by the NCAA does not limit the ability of our football team to succeed in the upcoming or future seasons.”

“In light of all the circumstances surrounding this case and as a matter of principle, the university has decided to appeal two elements of this decision – the penalty of erasing the 2005 season record and the finding of failure to monitor. Any mistakes made by the athletics department compliance staff while monitoring would not have prevented the intentional wrongdoing by the student athletes and the employer involved. The university developed the evidence of wrongdoing by the players and employer and took immediate action. Myles Brand, President of the NCAA said at the time, ‘…. I want to compliment the university insofar as that they took immediate action once they completed their internal investigation.’”

“Above all, we do not believe that erasing the 2005 season from the record books is fair to the over 100 student athletes and coaches who played by the rules and worked their hearts out for a successful season that year.”

“The University remains strongly committed to setting the highest possible standards for our athletics program. We are continuing to enhance our compliance system, which includes the action taken last year to house the comprehensive compliance program in the Office of the General Counsel of the university.”



Statement

OU Head Football Coach Bob Stoops

Wednesday, July 11, 2007



“I strongly support President Boren’s statement and position, and I appreciate his support of our program. Our current team is focused on the upcoming season. The university is dealing with a matter that relates to the 2005 season. This group of players and those that will join our program later have no reason to be concerned about our goals or the direction of our program. Those things remain unchanged. We remain a program that is concentrated on winning championships and my expectation is that we will compete on that level for many years.”

[olevetonahill]

Thanks for a Sane thread .

[BoonesFarmSooner]

Boren is freaking MONEY !!!!

The NCAA is a complete joke

[The Maestro]

Thanks for a Sane thread .

Wow..."me" and "sane" tied together. You people don't know me that well...glad I could go Bizzaro-Maestro on the interweb!

[snp]

Really wish Boren would shut up and move on.

[SoonerStormchaser]

Don't get a big head over it maestro...;)

...I did, but then someone told me in the other thread I know nothing about college football.

[OKC-SLC]

we can knock boren for a lot of things, but over the last 10 months, he certainly has stood up for the football program.

of course, there's a reason I don't bite the hand that feeds me, too.

[LittleWingSooner]

The NCAA has been a joke since it was conceived.

Boz's shirt said it best
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/913/boz18ku7.png

[olevetonahill]

Wow..."me" and "sane" tied together. You people don't know me that well...glad I could go Bizzaro-Maestro on the interweb!
Didnt say YOU were Sane Dumas :D
Said your THREAD was :P
even speked you fer it :cool:

[snp]

Don't get a big head over it maestro...;)

...I did, but then someone told me in the other thread I know nothing about college football.

Want me to break it down for you?



And what do we get today? The NCAA (National Communists Against Athletes) says "OU, you weren't kicked in the balls enough this past year...so here's one more Spartan leg kick for ya." and makes us forfeit all OUr wins from 2005 (we went 8-4, but we get to keep those four losses).

Right, our tragedies should be seriously considered when we get exposed cheating. I guess the moral is if you cheat, better make sure bad **** happens to you so you can get off.



1. Why didn't the NCAA go after Ohio State for Troy Smith? He took about a grand from a booster and was only suspended ONE GAME! OUr two guys took about 8K each and were KICKED OFF THE TEAM! But the NCAA didn't think we were harsh enough.

He was suspended for the bowl game and opener. He took $500 one time (an interesting side note, he took the money to pay for Clarrett's phone bill Smith's mom got for the doosh). If you think that is the same as falsifying work records over a duration of months...



2. Why isn't the NCAA going after USC for the estimated 100K that Reggie Bush took...and the fact he has been seen RECRUITING for USC? If they don't go after them at this point...I'm declaring jihad against the whole damned system.

The NCAA has no power since the FBI is invesitgating this. The FBI does not give a **** about helping the NCAA out. once they finally open up, then something will happen. Like you said, wait until they make their decision before you cry about it.

And about the McKnight thing, the NCAA can't prove anything. It's a case of he-said, she-said. And all parties involved have USC ties and will stick to their lie. Impossible to prove, I'd imagine.



3. The most important point: What's the point of self-reporting violations anymore? If this is what we're going to get for taking the corrective action ourselves, who in their right mind will man up, do what we did, and go through this gauntlet from an organization that is clearly giving preferential treatment to other teams?

The swift and timely manner in which they booted the idiots was a major point to the rules comitee. If the administration would've dragged it's feet about this, it could've been much worse.

Furthermore, JD Quinn was the projected starting guard, not offensive tackle. Class dismissed.

[CatfishSooner]

Bueller...Bueller...

[47straight]

OU is very fortunate to have Boren.

[Soonerus]

OU is very fortunate to have Boren.


and Stoops and Joe C....

[soonerhubs]

I liked Bob Stoops' comments about focusing on the upcoming season. I'm glad we didn't get any worse sanctions. The NCAA sucks and water is wet. It's time to move on. When I seriously sit down and calmly think about it, it could be so MUCH worse.

[soonerhubs]

Oh and to the 304 lurkers... sign up, this forum is AWESOME!!!! :)

[The Maestro]

I agree with someone else on the original thread...hard not to find it very ironic that the NCAA decided to make this announcement on what is recognized as the slowest day of the year in sports...no games of no mention at all...so therefore this story is going to be one of the first five out of the box on SportsCenter's all night long. Regular day with baseball or golf or something and this is a late segment reader only...now it will have interviews, analysis, videotape of RB. Hell, they might even have a soundbite of Brad Freaking McRae himself yelling with his mullet, Burt Reynolds hairsprayed chest hair, gold chain and general 1987 Kool Moe Dee look in full force belting out, "I-35...NORMAN!"

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Hope the football officiating crews that work our games in the future will think we've been punished enough, already.

[SoonerStormchaser]

Want me to break it down for you?




No thanks...I'd rather you let me vent a little and express my opinion without getting into personal attacks...

[goingoneight]

:stunned: coche gundyz recerd is now 12-12!!!

[SoonerStormchaser]

Aww man...I was at the ****** game that year...and I had a great time watching us pound their puny asses into the ground...does this now mean I have to have it expunged from my memory banks?

[Jdog]

Want me to break it down for you?



Right, our tragedies should be seriously considered when we get exposed cheating. I guess the moral is if you cheat, better make sure bad **** happens to you so you can get off.



He was suspended for the bowl game and opener. He took $500 one time (an interesting side note, he took the money to pay for Clarrett's phone bill Smith's mom got for the doosh). If you think that is the same as falsifying work records over a duration of months...



The NCAA has no power since the FBI is invesitgating this. The FBI does not give a **** about helping the NCAA out. once they finally open up, then something will happen. Like you said, wait until they make their decision before you cry about it.

And about the McKnight thing, the NCAA can't prove anything. It's a case of he-said, she-said. And all parties involved have USC ties and will stick to their lie. Impossible to prove, I'd imagine.



The swift and timely manner in which they booted the idiots was a major point to the rules comitee. If the administration would've dragged it's feet about this, it could've been much worse.

Furthermore, JD Quinn was the projected starting guard, not offensive tackle. Class dismissed.


SNP - do you or anyone else out there for that matter know how this compares to the infractions that Alabama received? Did they vacate or forfeit wins?

It sounds to me that what you’re saying is that it's better to just pay a big one time check to a player than pay him on an installment plan?

[stoopified]

Sorry for the new thread but this seemed pertinent...and worked so well after the Oregon debacle...

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071107aaa.html

Statement
OU President David L. Boren
Wednesday, July 11, 2007

“It is appropriate that the action taken today by the NCAA does not limit the ability of our football team to succeed in the upcoming or future seasons.”

“In light of all the circumstances surrounding this case and as a matter of principle, the university has decided to appeal two elements of this decision – the penalty of erasing the 2005 season record and the finding of failure to monitor. Any mistakes made by the athletics department compliance staff while monitoring would not have prevented the intentional wrongdoing by the student athletes and the employer involved. The university developed the evidence of wrongdoing by the players and employer and took immediate action. Myles Brand, President of the NCAA said at the time, ‘…. I want to compliment the university insofar as that they took immediate action once they completed their internal investigation.’”

“Above all, we do not believe that erasing the 2005 season from the record books is fair to the over 100 student athletes and coaches who played by the rules and worked their hearts out for a successful season that year.”

“The University remains strongly committed to setting the highest possible standards for our athletics program. We are continuing to enhance our compliance system, which includes the action taken last year to house the comprehensive compliance program in the Office of the General Counsel of the university.”



Statement

OU Head Football Coach Bob Stoops

Wednesday, July 11, 2007



“I strongly support President Boren’s statement and position, and I appreciate his support of our program. Our current team is focused on the upcoming season. The university is dealing with a matter that relates to the 2005 season. This group of players and those that will join our program later have no reason to be concerned about our goals or the direction of our program. Those things remain unchanged. We remain a program that is concentrated on winning championships and my expectation is that we will compete on that level for many years.”
Bob is more temperate than I am,as far as I am concerned F*CK THE NCAA.

[jkjsooner]

Want me to break it down for you?
The NCAA has no power since the FBI is invesitgating this.


What the heck does the FBI investigation have to do with whether the NCAA can investigate? I'll give you a hint, nothing.

[85Sooner]

The NCAA has been a joke since it was conceived.

Boz's shirt said it best
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/913/boz18ku7.png


That picture should be printed on a T shirt and everyone Should wear it to every home game this year.

Boz? Are you hearing that? Marketing! Money! I want a shirt like that and everyone should mekit a point to show it on ESPN game day where ever they are.

When we moved to Austin , my wife in HR was directed to write payroll checks to several longhorns but she won't tell me who. I think I know who some of them were but she is being stubborn reagrding the confidentiality aspect of the issue. I am not surprised she is a cowboy. Does the communists at the NCAA care Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Not texas, ohio, usc.

Sometime I wish I were God.

[snp]

SNP - do you or anyone else out there for that matter know how this compares to the infractions that Alabama received? Did they vacate or forfeit wins?

It sounds to me that what you’re saying is that it's better to just pay a big one time check to a player than pay him on an installment plan?

Reduced scholarships (more than us) and a bowl ban were the worst of it.

It's worse to falsify records in order to receive money. Simply taking it is not as bad.


What the heck does the FBI investigation have to do with whether the NCAA can investigate? I'll give you a hint, nothing.

You know, I'm not sure. That's how it was explained to me a while back and now I can't find anything that says so. I might've been wrong about that. Nope, I was right. NCAA has to wait.

But they still can't do much to investigate Reggie Bush since he's not longer participating in NCAA.