I really dont understand people sometimes...

[yermom]

Right to this...freedom of that...moral this...imposing that...

Some things you should shouldn't do...simply because you shouldn't.

Commmon sense and all.

who decides where the line is though?

[leavingthezoo]

who decides where the line is though?

THE LINE IS RIGHT HERE, MISTER!

_______________________________________________

[JohnnyMack]

Give it a rest. Ya I was a kid. That doesn't mean I have to like them. And I am not a teenager either. You're acting like a an crabby old fart. Loosen up.

The other thing I love that just because I defend somebodies right to be a dumb ***, makes me a dumb ***. I think the shirt is stupid, which is I have said throughout the thread. I do think it is classless and doesnt show respect that is not the issue for me.

The issue for me is how hypocritical everyone is on moral issues. So long as the freedom of speech fits your standard its okay. Its just ridiculous, you want respect for your position, but you refuse to respect the rights of the people that dont fit your standards. Whatever, I'm done with this.

I commented on your jab at kids. Not your defense of some schmuck and his right to wear whatever he wants. Do I think he has the right to wear it? Yes. Do I think he's acting in an immature, attention seeking fashion in doing so? Yes. Do I think he needs to understand that wearing that kind of shirt is going to attract the wrong kind of attention, like having the cops called over wearing it? Yes.

Saying things like "I hate kids, blah, blah, blah" is what makes you look like a whiny little emo. Your inability to grasp your place in this society and your inability to acknowledge that like it or not, you're part of this great big societal network ends up with you coming off like a whiny little *********. Like it or not, we all have a responsibility to payback and/or perpetuate this culture that allowed you to get to the point you're at in your life.

[yermom]

THE LINE IS RIGHT HERE, MISTER!

_______________________________________________

**** off dip****

[mdklatt]

who decides where the line is though?

Commonsense ought to cover it. Everybody knows that F**K is a "bad word", regardless of their personal stance on it's usage. Commonsense should tell you that wearing a T-shirt with F**K on in it public might cause problems. Commonsense tells you that excercising your 1st Ammendment rights sometimes just isn't worth the hassle. Unfortunately for Melo's BF, the commonsense part of your brain doesn't start working until you hit your mid-20s.

[TMcGee86]

I hate children I am not going to lie, I cant stand them.

I hope what you mean is that you hate parents of children, especially when they try to cram morals for their kids down your throat.

[Viking Kitten]

Okay... question for the lawyer types: Would the Miller test apply here? I think you could successfully argue that a depiction of the F word violates community standards.

[yermom]

Commonsense ought to cover it. Everybody knows that F**K is a "bad word", regardless of their personal stance on it's usage. Commonsense should tell you that wearing a T-shirt with F**K on in it public might cause problems. Commonsense tells you that excercising your 1st Ammendment rights sometimes just isn't worth the hassle. Unfortunately for Melo's BF, the commonsense part of your brain doesn't start working until you hit your mid-20s.


i just mean in general, i have stated that i think Melo's bf probably got what he wanted by wearing said shirt

"decency" is a hard word to define, i mean you get shot in Iraq for wearing shorts. sure the F word is an easy one to pick out, but where exactly does it stop?

[leavingthezoo]

**** off dip****

TURN THAT COMMENT INSIDE OUT, BUCKO!:mad:

[mdklatt]

"decency" is a hard word to define, i mean you get shot in Iraq for wearing shorts. sure the F word is an easy one to pick out, but where exactly does it stop?


Maybe we should take George Carlin's lead on this issue.

[MamaMia]

What the f*** did you just say?:confused:Sorry. I didn't mean to be un-understandable. :P

[Sooner in Tampa]

i just mean in general, i have stated that i think Melo's bf probably got what he wanted by wearing said shirt

"decency" is a hard word to define, i mean you get shot in Iraq for wearing shorts. sure the F word is an easy one to pick out, but where exactly does it stop?Honestly, I think that curse words in general would be a pretty good bar to set. I am not talking about damn or hell, but the really good ones like f**k, s**t, c**t, and the likes.

[yermom]

I hope what you mean is that you hate parents of children, especially when they try to cram morals for their kids down your throat.

lots of people hate kids

i hate kids in movie theaters... and their parents

[Beef]

i just mean in general, i have stated that i think Melo's bf probably got what he wanted by wearing said shirt
Melo didn't say anything about a secks chair after dinner.

[yermom]

Honestly, I think that curse words in general would be a pretty good bar to set. I am not talking about damn or hell, but the really good ones like f**k, s**t, c**t, and the likes.

oh sure, until someone doesn't like hell or damn in front of their kids either

[mdklatt]

lots of people hate kids

i hate kids in movie theaters... and their parents

People don't hate kids, they hate their misbehavior. Being expected to cater to other people's kids is also a drag, whether or not you have kids of your own. Do it for the children is a crock 99% of the time.

[mdklatt]

Honestly, I think that curse words in general would be a pretty good bar to set. I am not talking about damn or hell, but the really good ones like f**k, s**t, c**t, and the likes.

Like I said, let's listen to George Carlin on this subject. :D

[BlondeSoonerGirl]

who decides where the line is though?

I guess that's just up to you. And when/if your line doesn't jive with most other people's on the planet you might want to re-examine things a bit.

Hey - you know what I always thought was just really stupid? Those 'Big Johnson' t-shirts.

OMG...I think I have Tourette's.

[Sooner in Tampa]

People don't hate kids, they hate their misbehavior. Being expected to cater to other people's kids is also a drag, whether or not you have kids of your own. Do it for the children is a crock 99% of the time.Bingo.

[C&CDean]

Fraggle,

You gotta be a poli-sci major, with a minor in stupidity.

You keep trying to play the free speech card - when this whole thing ain't got anything to do with free speech. It's about a selfish little meathead who needs attention - and then whines like a little bitch when he gets it. So, not getting the type of attention he's craving doesn't mean he's not getting what he's seeking.

I've got a pretty good idea there's more to the story than what Melo has shared. I've got a pretty good idea that anybody that is punkass enough to wear something like that is also probably a mouthy little turd. So, if I were in the bad cop's place, and I went over and said "hey bud, your shirt is offending my family and my kids" and turdhead said "**** off old man" I probably would have stuffed the little dweeb headfirst into the closest garbage can.

I think the cop showed great restraint. Probably even deserves a medal.

[yermom]

Like I said, let's listen to George Carlin on this subject. :D

you mean say those words at will and kinda point out that the list is lame?

[yermom]

People don't hate kids, they hate their misbehavior. Being expected to cater to other people's kids is also a drag, whether or not you have kids of your own. Do it for the children is a crock 99% of the time.

couldn't you say that about anyone you hate?

this battle over semantics is a little weird.

[TMcGee86]

lots of people hate kids

i hate kids in movie theaters... and their parents

yeah but even in that situation, you are really hating the parents for taking them to the movies without instilling enough discipline to keep them quiet.

[C&CDean]

I'll tell you what I hate. I hate the parents of misbehaving kids. Those people will certainly hear an F-bomb or two from me when I tell them to "corral your ****ing monsters." If you're a parent who let's your kid be a numbskull then don't even try and "protect" your child from somebody elses stupidity.

[yermom]

Fraggle,

You gotta be a poli-sci major, with a minor in stupidity.

You keep trying to play the free speech card - when this whole thing ain't got anything to do with free speech. It's about a selfish little meathead who needs attention - and then whines like a little bitch when he gets it. So, not getting the type of attention he's craving doesn't mean he's not getting what he's seeking.

I've got a pretty good idea there's more to the story than what Melo has shared. I've got a pretty good idea that anybody that is punkass enough to wear something like that is also probably a mouthy little turd. So, if I were in the bad cop's place, and I went over and said "hey bud, your shirt is offending my family and my kids" and turdhead said "**** off old man" I probably would have stuffed the little dweeb headfirst into the closest garbage can.

I think the cop showed great restraint. Probably even deserves a medal.

whatever. one meathead ran into another and one meathead happened to have the backing of the police

they are both meatheads perfectly willing to cause a scene and draw attention to themselves

[mdklatt]

couldn't you say that about anyone you hate?



No, there are some people I hate for no good reason at all. :D

[jk the sooner fan]

Fraggle,

You gotta be a poli-sci major, with a minor in stupidity.

You keep trying to play the free speech card - when this whole thing ain't got anything to do with free speech. It's about a selfish little meathead who needs attention - and then whines like a little bitch when he gets it. So, not getting the type of attention he's craving doesn't mean he's not getting what he's seeking.

I've got a pretty good idea there's more to the story than what Melo has shared. I've got a pretty good idea that anybody that is punkass enough to wear something like that is also probably a mouthy little turd. So, if I were in the bad cop's place, and I went over and said "hey bud, your shirt is offending my family and my kids" and turdhead said "**** off old man" I probably would have stuffed the little dweeb headfirst into the closest garbage can.

I think the cop showed great restraint. Probably even deserves a medal.


BIN.......GO

[M]

Wearing a t-shirt with "f*ck" on it is pretty stupid, but it is protected under the First Amendment.

Freedom of expression
In 1971, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the mere public display of **** is protected under the First and Fourteenth Amendments and cannot be made a criminal offense. In 1968, Paul Robert Cohen had been convicted of "disturbing the peace" for wearing a jacket with "**** THE DRAFT" on it (in reference to conscription in the Vietnam War). The conviction was upheld by the Court of Appeals and overturned by the Supreme Court. Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971).

In 1983, pornographer Larry Flynt, representing himself before the U.S. Supreme Court in a libel case, shouted, "**** this court!" during the proceedings, and then called the justices "nothing but eight *******s and a token ****" (referring to Justice Sandra Day O'Connor). Chief Justice Warren E. Burger had him arrested for contempt of court, but the charge was later dismissed on a technicality.[9]


Wikipedia Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****#Freedom_of_expression)

[dolemitesooner]

Fraggle,

You gotta be a poli-sci major, with a minor in stupidity.

You keep trying to play the free speech card - when this whole thing ain't got anything to do with free speech. It's about a selfish little meathead who needs attention - and then whines like a little bitch when he gets it. So, not getting the type of attention he's craving doesn't mean he's not getting what he's seeking.

I've got a pretty good idea there's more to the story than what Melo has shared. I've got a pretty good idea that anybody that is punkass enough to wear something like that is also probably a mouthy little turd. So, if I were in the bad cop's place, and I went over and said "hey bud, your shirt is offending my family and my kids" and turdhead said "**** off old man" I probably would have stuffed the little dweeb headfirst into the closest garbage can.

I think the cop showed great restraint. Probably even deserves a medal.
I would have just shoot the mother ****er ...I mean **** I have the right to bear arms

[TMcGee86]

Fraggle,

You gotta be a poli-sci major, with a minor in stupidity.

You keep trying to play the free speech card - when this whole thing ain't got anything to do with free speech. It's about a selfish little meathead who needs attention - and then whines like a little bitch when he gets it. So, not getting the type of attention he's craving doesn't mean he's not getting what he's seeking.

I've got a pretty good idea there's more to the story than what Melo has shared. I've got a pretty good idea that anybody that is punkass enough to wear something like that is also probably a mouthy little turd. So, if I were in the bad cop's place, and I went over and said "hey bud, your shirt is offending my family and my kids" and turdhead said "**** off old man" I probably would have stuffed the little dweeb headfirst into the closest garbage can.

I think the cop showed great restraint. Probably even deserves a medal.

I concur. Even if there isnt what we know is that he asked him to step outside, which would have avoided the scene, and the bf refused and said he wasn't doing anything wrong.

Not exactly "How about I just turn it inside out and we all move on with our lives."

[sooner_born_1960]

M, he wasn't arrested.

[Sooner24]

I commented on your jab at kids. Not your defense of some schmuck and his right to wear whatever he wants. Do I think he has the right to wear it? Yes. Do I think he's acting in an immature, attention seeking fashion in doing so? Yes. Do I think he needs to understand that wearing that kind of shirt is going to attract the wrong kind of attention, like having the cops called over wearing it? Yes.

Saying things like "I hate kids, blah, blah, blah" is what makes you look like a whiny little emo. Your inability to grasp your place in this society and your inability to acknowledge that like it or not, you're part of this great big societal network ends up with you coming off like a whiny little *********. Like it or not, we all have a responsibility to payback and/or perpetuate this culture that allowed you to get to the point you're at in your life.



Double spek!!!

[silverwheels]

Heh. This thread is still going?

[yermom]

Wearing a t-shirt with "f*ck" on it is pretty stupid, but it is protected under the First Amendment.

Freedom of expression
In 1971, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the mere public display of **** is protected under the First and Fourteenth Amendments and cannot be made a criminal offense. In 1968, Paul Robert Cohen had been convicted of "disturbing the peace" for wearing a jacket with "**** THE DRAFT" on it (in reference to conscription in the Vietnam War). The conviction was upheld by the Court of Appeals and overturned by the Supreme Court. Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971).

In 1983, pornographer Larry Flynt, representing himself before the U.S. Supreme Court in a libel case, shouted, "**** this court!" during the proceedings, and then called the justices "nothing but eight *******s and a token ****" (referring to Justice Sandra Day O'Connor). Chief Justice Warren E. Burger had him arrested for contempt of court, but the charge was later dismissed on a technicality.[9]


Wikipedia Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****#Freedom_of_expression)

heh. maybe he should have just had them arrest him.

[Sooner24]

Fraggle,

You gotta be a poli-sci major, with a minor in stupidity.

You keep trying to play the free speech card - when this whole thing ain't got anything to do with free speech. It's about a selfish little meathead who needs attention - and then whines like a little bitch when he gets it. So, not getting the type of attention he's craving doesn't mean he's not getting what he's seeking.

I've got a pretty good idea there's more to the story than what Melo has shared. I've got a pretty good idea that anybody that is punkass enough to wear something like that is also probably a mouthy little turd. So, if I were in the bad cop's place, and I went over and said "hey bud, your shirt is offending my family and my kids" and turdhead said "**** off old man" I probably would have stuffed the little dweeb headfirst into the closest garbage can.

I think the cop showed great restraint. Probably even deserves a medal.


What he said!

[OUDoc]

I've always liked this speech. It's better when Morgan Freeman says it, but the last half fits here, IMO.

Racist? You dare call me a racist? Well I say unto you, what does it matter the color of a man's skin when witnesses perjure themselves and prosecutors enlist the perjury; when a district attorney throws a man to the mob for political gain and men of the cloth, men of God, take the prime cut? Is that justice? Let me tell you what justice is. Justice is the law. And the law is man's feeble attempt to lay down the principals of decency. Decency! And decency isn't a deal, it's not a contract or a hustle or an angle! Decency...decency is what your grandmother taught you. It's in your bones! You go home now. Go home and be decent people. Be decent!

[sooner_born_1960]

My grandmother used the "N" word way too much.

[Viking Kitten]

I've always liked this speech. It's better when Morgan Freeman says it, but the last half fits here, IMO.

Racist? You dare call me a racist? Well I say unto you, what does it matter the color of a man's skin when witnesses perjure themselves and prosecutors enlist the perjury; when a district attorney throws a man to the mob for political gain and men of the cloth, men of God, take the prime cut? Is that justice? Let me tell you what justice is. Justice is the law. And the law is man's feeble attempt to lay down the principals of decency. Decency! And decency isn't a deal, it's not a contract or a hustle or an angle! Decency...decency is what your grandmother taught you. It's in your bones! You go home now. Go home and be decent people. Be decent!

Does he then go on to talk about his good friend Andy Dufresne and some wierd way Andy gets anally raped?

[OUDoc]

My grandmother used the "N" word way too much.
Okay, not your grandmother.
How about your best friend's grandma?:D

[yermom]

Does he then go on to talk about his good friend Andy Dufresne and some wierd way Andy gets anally raped?

i prefer the part about crawling through a river of **** to come out clean on the other side

[OUDoc]

Does he then go on to talk about his good friend Andy Dufresne and some wierd way Andy gets anally raped?
They hadn't met yet.

[BlondeSoonerGirl]

http://www.marriedtothesea.com/061107/just-be-cool.gif

[leavingthezoo]

this thread reminds me of a VW bug taking on a semi in a game of chicken. sure the bug can take on the semi, but that doesn't mean it should.

p.s. i'm offended by spam... especially when it runs around with its little tin lid peeled back. perv.

[frankensooner]

I think VK listens to WAY too much Bob and Tom. ;)

[OU4LIFE]

Possibly. I still dont get it, though. He made such a big deal about being an 'ex cop' that I figured he would have been the first one to handle the situation with more decency.

my opinion: You wear that shirt, you EXPECT confrontation. Period. Don't be surprised when you get it. and as for you, when you are WITH the person wearing it, you expect the exact same thing. So don't be surprised or upset when you get it.

[Melo]

Heh. This thread exceeded my wildest expectations.

Okay, I said it once, Ill say it again: I dont disagree with anyone, really, about the bf being an idiot and wearing the shirt. Should I say it again, bold it? Lol, I DONT DISAGREE!

BUT - he wore it, it happened... etc.

I wasnt 'surprised' or 'hurt' when the whole thing happened. I was more angry at the guy for making a big ordeal out of the situation, when it could have been handled a lot better.

Dean - there isnt a whole lot more to the story. We were sitting down, talking amongst the three of us. Man was paying for his meal, standing by the door, and walked back in the restaurant and told my bf to leave. Bf said he wasnt leaving. Man called the cops, cops showed up, bf changed the shirt around. No whining, no crying, none of that.

[crawfish]

Buy him a shirt that reads, "Punch me in the face as hard as you can". When he refuses to wear it, tell him "it's just a bunch of words"...

;)

[OCUDad]

I'm sure Reverend Phelps would love to sell you some T-shirts with "just a bunch of words" on them. ;)

[MamaMia]

Don't y'all think its kind of odd that for 15 pages, we have discussed a word that's actually censored on here? :D

[colleyvillesooner]

I know, it's ****ing crazy...

[Viking Kitten]

Don't y'all think its kind of odd that for 15 pages, we have discussed a word that's actually censored on here? :D

If we applied that standard to real life though, we wouldn't even be able to call Melo's boyfriend a little ****ant. See?

[colleyvillesooner]

Can we call him a ******rocket?

[Melo]

Can we call him a ******rocket?

Actually, he prefers to be called '*********'. But to each his own, I guess.

[colleyvillesooner]

Ah, douché

[Fraggle145]

****, ****ity, **** **** ****.

[TUSooner]

Actually, he prefers to be called '*********'. But to each his own, I guess.
Have him put "I am a *********" on his shirt and see if that gets a rise out of anyone.

[OUDoc]

Have him put "I am a *********" on his shirt and see if that gets a rise out of anyone.
But everyone already knows you're a *********, TU. ;)

[SoonerBBall]

Man, I read exactly one and a half pages of this crap before I just jumped to the end. If you don't like the shirt, don't buy one and don't wear it. It isn't your job, though, to tell somebody else what not to wear or what not to say, especially some kid who isn't even remotely engaged with you in any fashion, save for being in the same establishment as you. If the business wants to let him in with that shirt on, it is up to you to decide whether or not to stay there with your kids. It is not up to you to decide what someone else there says, does, or wears unless it directly affects you in some form or fashion.

To all the people that are saying he shouldn't wear the shirt in there, would you say the same thing if he wore a religious shirt? How about a political shirt? When did this society decide that it needs to make everyones' decisions for them instead of worrying about themselves first?

[SteelClip49]

>>>Fraggle,

You gotta be a poli-sci major, with a minor in stupidity.

You keep trying to play the free speech card - when this whole thing ain't got anything to do with free speech. It's about a selfish little meathead who needs attention - and then whines like a little bitch when he gets it. So, not getting the type of attention he's craving doesn't mean he's not getting what he's seeking.

I've got a pretty good idea there's more to the story than what Melo has shared. I've got a pretty good idea that anybody that is punkass enough to wear something like that is also probably a mouthy little turd. So, if I were in the bad cop's place, and I went over and said "hey bud, your shirt is offending my family and my kids" and turdhead said "**** off old man" I probably would have stuffed the little dweeb headfirst into the closest garbage can.

I think the cop showed great restraint. Probably even deserves a medal.<<<

In reference to this Dean....I would give the medal to the BF for refusing to leave. He could have just put the shirt on because he wanted to wear it, no particular reason at all. There is such thing as decency and respect and I am all for it, but the whiny, retired cop and whoever else made a big stink about it should have the COMMON DECENCY to approach the situation in a much more mature manner. You can say whatever but it is freedom of speech and expression and did not pose a threat to anyone; he was minding his own business. Maybe we should stop wearing TUCK FEXAS apparel because we all know what it is saying; I wonder how many of you people don't mind that all.

I guarantee kids would easily pick up on the TUCK FEXAS concept. If not, parents or whomever would explain it to them. People with kids, stop watching TV; B***H, A***ole are not censored much anymore and can easily be heard when watching cable TV.

[Petro-Sooner]

Some people just don’t understand couth. I thank the Lord every day my parents raised me the way they did.

[springs sooner]

why even wear a shirt at all. just go nekid and then you will get all the attention you have ever desired.

[C&CDean]

Meh. Melo should get the medal for tolerating this dildo.

[SteelClip49]

Melo's BF is the victim here people. He was verbally attacked and threatened.

Now, Matt Leinart and his F*CK THE BCS is a different ordeal. He was showing complete arrogance and acting like a little twerp. That was on national TV. But then it all goes back to freedom of expression. It has its limits obviously. But the penalty flag goes toward the retired cop for his unnecessary outburst and threat.

[C&CDean]

Melo's BF is the victim here people. He was verbally attacked and threatened.

Now, Matt Leinart and his F*CK THE BCS is a different ordeal. He was showing complete arrogance and acting like a little twerp. That was on national TV. But then it all goes back to freedom of expression. It has its limits obviously. But the penalty flag goes toward the retired cop for his unnecessary outburst and threat.

So, you're about 17, right?

[Hamhock]

Melo's BF is the victim here people. He was verbally attacked and threatened.

.


you can't honestly believe this. can't.

[jk the sooner fan]

victim....lol

[OUDoc]

edit: nm, not going to get into it.

[colleyvillesooner]

Melo's BF is the victim here people. He was verbally attacked and threatened.

Now, Matt Leinart and his F*CK THE BCS is a different ordeal. He was showing complete arrogance and acting like a little twerp. That was on national TV. But then it all goes back to freedom of expression. It has its limits obviously. But the penalty flag goes toward the retired cop for his unnecessary outburst and threat.

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5909/whambulance8bz.jpg

[OCUDad]

So, you're about 17, right?You asking for its age, IQ, or both? I'll bet you're close on both counts.

[SteelClip49]

age 23 and in the NOW, unlike some of you.

[Beef]

I'm not allowed to join the National Organization of Women. Sorry.

[Pricetag]

Man, I read exactly one and a half pages of this crap before I just jumped to the end. If you don't like the shirt, don't buy one and don't wear it. It isn't your job, though, to tell somebody else what not to wear or what not to say, especially some kid who isn't even remotely engaged with you in any fashion, save for being in the same establishment as you. If the business wants to let him in with that shirt on, it is up to you to decide whether or not to stay there with your kids. It is not up to you to decide what someone else there says, does, or wears unless it directly affects you in some form or fashion.

To all the people that are saying he shouldn't wear the shirt in there, would you say the same thing if he wore a religious shirt? How about a political shirt? When did this society decide that it needs to make everyones' decisions for them instead of worrying about themselves first?
I disagree. Wearing the shirt in mixed company was an a-hole move. The reason there are so many a-holes out there is because people seldom do anything about it. He deserved to be called out on it, as anyone who does something similarly inconsiderate would deserve to be called out.

Regarding the religious or political theme, I have yet to see a shirt for either that says "f- you" to someone else. If it did, then, sure, it would be a problem.

[colleyvillesooner]

age 23 and I know everything, unlike some of you.

fixed

[C&CDean]

age 23 and in the NOW, unlike some of you.

23 going on 16. And you're a dues paying member of the chick's movement. This explains a lot...

[Hamhock]

age 23 and in the NOW, unlike some of you.


what edzachary was the threat? 'cause i missed that in melo's post #1.

[jk the sooner fan]

its threads like these that make me think the draft wouldnt be such a bad thing.......

[sooner_born_1960]

This debate seems to be falling along the lines of 20-something know all the answers vs. mature adults. The kid was out of line wearing the shirt in public and got called out on it.
JMHO

[colleyvillesooner]

This debate seems to be falling along the lines of 20-something know all the answers vs. mature adults. The kid was out of line wearing the shirt in public and got called out on it.
JMHO

:les:YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING OLD MAN!!!!

[silverwheels]

This debate seems to be falling along the lines of 20-something know all the answers vs. mature adults. The kid was out of line wearing the shirt in public and got called out on it.
JMHO

Hey, I sided with all you old people earlier in the thread. :D

[olevetonahill]

Well hell peeps what part of My post didnt Yall unnerstand ?
Wear what you want , burn the Flag if you want,
Just be ready to get ur asskicked when you do .
Nuff said :D

[Sooner in Tampa]

Melo's BF is the victim here people. He was verbally attacked and threatened. Un****ing real. Now I have read and seen it all :D:D:D:D

I just think you are messing with us, you don't actually believe some crap like that...do you??? I mean, your joking right?

[Sooner24]

Un****ing real. Now I have read and seen it all :D:D:D:D

I just think you are messing with us, you don't actually believe some crap like that...do you??? I mean, your joking right?


And the sad thing is Melos bfs son is going to grow up to be the same kind of idiot his father is.

[royalfan5]

I'm impressed. 17 pages of *********gery related posting, and it's not related to a Sic'em adventure.

[LilSooner]

I read the first page and stopped. I skipped to the last page and saw where some are calling the dividing line between 20 year olds and you old farts.

Me thinks some people did some ****ty parenting. Since I know that most of you guys are old enough to be my daddy.

Have you ever noticed how this newest batch of youngins are the most [huge generalization]self absorbed worthless pieces of garbage that ever graced this earth?[huge generalization]

Some of the people of YOUR generation did a ****astic job of raising their children. Thus you get this thread.


So what I'm really saying is that it's all your fault. You weren't hard enough on your kids, and thus they walk around wearing **** you shirts.


:D

[KC//CRIMSON]

who decides where the line is though?


your brain.

[Sooner in Tampa]

your brain.ehhh...that may not much work out so well sometimes ;)

[Hamhock]

ehhh...that may not much out so well sometimes ;)


easy for you to say..

[achiro]

ehhh...that may not much out so well sometimes ;)
whaaa???

[Frozen Sooner]

This is incredibly simple.

Boyfriend was in the wrong for wearing the shirt to a family restaurant. In fact, while he had every right to wear it, he's still wrong to do so. Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean that you're not a d-bag for doing it.

Ex-cop was in the wrong for just launching into a verbal tirade about it. Certainly should have been handled more appropriately. Quietly approaching d-bag and saying "Hey, I find your shirt offensive, would you mind reversing it?" would have been more appropriate.

Who's more of a d-bag? I'm leaning towards boyfriend. The whole situation would have been avoided had he not been a d-bag in the first place.

[Sooner in Tampa]

whaaa???:O:O

[Hamhock]

Certainly should have been handled more appropriately. Quietly approaching d-bag and saying "Hey, I find your shirt offensive, would you mind reversing it?" would have been more appropriate.

i thought, from reading melo's post, he tried that.

[colleyvillesooner]

i thought, from reading melo's post, he tried that.

Yep:


We were not being loud, offensive, anything of that nature when a man walked up to us and asked my bf to step outside, due to the shirt he was wearing. He explained that it was offensive and that he didnt want the wrong impression being given to his two daughters, one of them looked about 12 and the other maybe 14, at oldest. The shirt said 'F**k yall Im from Texas', which I understand isnt exactly proper, but it IS just a word.

Anyways. The bf told the man that he wasnt doing anything wrong, it was just a shirt, and that the other family was leaving to begin with. The man started yelling, exclaimed that he was a retired cop, the shirt was considered 'disorderly conduct' and that he was calling the police. The police showed up, made the bf turn his shirt inside out and left.


The second bolded part is where I believe more was said than just that, and probably with just enough attitude to set the ex-cop off. Not right for the guy to do that, though.

[Frozen Sooner]

Ah. When she said "asked him to step outside" I thought she meant the guy asked him to go out and fight.

[BajaOklahoma]

<Old voice> I remember the good old days when people were polite to each other. When people respected each other. When it was possible to balance the rights of an individual with the rights of others. I remember the good old days. <Old voice>

[Rhino]

You guys talk alot.

Wearing that shirt is a *********gy and immature thing to do. He will, hopefully, realize that in a couple years.

Calling the cops and claiming disorderly conduct is an equally *********gy and immature thing to do. And I'm sure the cops just love when a crusty ex-cop calls in about some punk kid wearing a t-shirt.

[C&CDean]

Calling the cops and claiming disorderly conduct is an equally *********gy and immature thing to do. And I'm sure the cops just love when a crusty ex-cop calls in about some punk kid wearing a t-shirt.

Well yeah, if you believe the whole story. I'm thinking the ex-cop called the cops to keep him from knocking hell outta the punk. I just know that I would never call the cops over something like this. If you can't settle a disagreement with a narrow-assed miscreant civilly, then you've got lots bigger issues to deal with. Like maybe his slut 14 year old daughters and their out-of-wedlock pregnancy from Tyrone? Who knows though...

[MamaMia]

I read the first page and stopped. I skipped to the last page and saw where some are calling the dividing line between 20 year olds and you old farts.

Me thinks some people did some ****ty parenting. Since I know that most of you guys are old enough to be my daddy.

Have you ever noticed how this newest batch of youngins are the most [huge generalization]self absorbed worthless pieces of garbage that ever graced this earth?[huge generalization]

Some of the people of YOUR generation did a ****astic job of raising their children. Thus you get this thread.


So what I'm really saying is that it's all your fault. You weren't hard enough on your kids, and thus they walk around wearing **** you shirts.


:D
I do agree that some parents have aided and abetted in the making of many a numb scull, but how would one explain why several children raised by the same parents turn out to be different than their siblings? My belief is that many times ones offspring doesn't start the weird behavior until they after they leave the nest and allow themselves to be infected by outside influences. Thankfully though, after a few years of being a total disappointment most kids raised with a good solid foundation do end up turning out to be pleasant and productive members of society.

[SoonerBBall]

I disagree. Wearing the shirt in mixed company was an a-hole move. The reason there are so many a-holes out there is because people seldom do anything about it. He deserved to be called out on it, as anyone who does something similarly inconsiderate would deserve to be called out.

Regarding the religious or political theme, I have yet to see a shirt for either that says "f- you" to someone else. If it did, then, sure, it would be a problem.

I don't care how offensive you find it, it isn't your job to tell people what they can and can't wear. Was the kid an idiot for wearing the shirt to a family restaurant? Oh yeah, that is pretty trashy. But if the management of the restaurant lets him on like that, you better be damn sure that it isn't your place to go off on him unless he starts something first. Again, you are free to leave the restaurant anytime you choose if the other clientele do not meet your personal standards, but it isn't his job to make sure you and your family don't see the word ****. Besides, i'd hope that by the time you have teenage daughters you would have taught them enough to know how to deal with a trashy t-shirt.

[1stTimeCaller]

has anyone mentioned that the boyfriend and the ex-cop both showed signs of *********gery?





;)

[leavingthezoo]

Besides, i'd hope that by the time you have teenage daughters you would have taught them enough to know how to deal with a trashy t-shirt.

probably by turning it inside out in public. :D

[olevetonahill]

has anyone mentioned that the boyfriend and the ex-cop both showed signs of *********gery?





;)
Naw the excop took the boy outside, The boy wore the shirt in front of God and everybody. Ill defend his right to wear said shirt, But he must also realise that FREEDOM aint FREEE
Some times you have to pay by gettin a 55 Gal on ya :D

[1stTimeCaller]

55 gallons? That's a lot of Natural Light.

:D

[LilSooner]

I do agree that some parents have aided and abetted in the making of many a numb scull, but how would one explain why several children raised by the same parents turn out to be different than their siblings? My belief is that many times ones offspring doesn't start the weird behavior until they after they leave the nest and allow themselves to be infected by outside influences. Thankfully though, after a few years of being a total disappointment most kids raised with a good solid foundation do end up turning out to be pleasant and productive members of society.


I wouldn't know I'm an only child, but I still blame the parents.

[olevetonahill]

55 gallons? That's a lot of Natural Light.

:D
Whoopass or natty ;)

[Pricetag]

I don't care how offensive you find it, it isn't your job to tell people what they can and can't wear. Was the kid an idiot for wearing the shirt to a family restaurant? Oh yeah, that is pretty trashy. But if the management of the restaurant lets him on like that, you better be damn sure that it isn't your place to go off on him unless he starts something first. Again, you are free to leave the restaurant anytime you choose if the other clientele do not meet your personal standards, but it isn't his job to make sure you and your family don't see the word ****. Besides, i'd hope that by the time you have teenage daughters you would have taught them enough to know how to deal with a trashy t-shirt.
Isn't whose job to make sure I don't see the word?

If it is within the rights of the boy to wear the shirt, it is absolutely within the rights of anyone who sees it to tell him what they think about it and him.

[Sooner24]

Isn't whose job to make sure I don't see the word?

If it is within the rights of the boy to wear the shirt, it is absolutely within the rights of anyone who sees it to tell him what they think about it and him.


And the spek keeps comin'.

[Melo]

Isn't whose job to make sure I don't see the word?

If it is within the rights of the boy to wear the shirt, it is absolutely within the rights of anyone who sees it to tell him what they think about it and him.

The thing is, though, the man didnt give an opinion only and be done with it. He told my bf to leave and/or hed call the cops. He has no authority to make us leave.

And whoever made the comment about kids - D-bag doesnt really like little children, so I think he will go to great lengths not to reproduce. Hes already talking about the surgery. I suppose you can all thank God for small blessings.

[olevetonahill]

The thing is, though, the man didnt give an opinion only and be done with it. He told my bf to leave and/or hed call the cops. He has no authority to make us leave.

And whoever made the comment about kids - D-bag doesnt really like little children, so I think he will go to great lengths not to reproduce. Hes already talking about the surgery. I suppose you can all thank God for small blessings.
Melo he ask him O/S and talked to him there. Ill bet the BF mouthed off !
Like I said wear what ya want anywhere you want , burn the Flag , Pisz on a vets Grave . Just be ready to pay the piper :pop:

[jk the sooner fan]

Hes already talking about the surgery. I suppose you can all thank God for small blessings.

i dont know of any professional urologist that will perform that elective surgery on a young adult male who has not had children

good luck with that

[olevetonahill]

i dont know of any professional urologist that will perform that elective surgery on a young adult male who has not had children

good luck with that
I can castrate him :pop:

[royalfan5]

I can castrate him :pop:
band or knife?

[Melo]

i dont know of any professional urologist that will perform that elective surgery on a young adult male who has not had children

good luck with that

I obviously know nothing about it. He was talking about it, saying how he knows several guys who had it done back in SC. Whatever.

[OUinFLA]

Well, after 18 pages another old guy who grew up respecting other peoples feelings is going to chime in.

Im much too old to pick a fight with someone who is 40 years younger than me and has indications of not respecting others. I don't get in arguments with black leather bald headed biker types wearing chain link belts and sporting tatoos all over their body either. I just try to avoid them

Being as I'm reasonably well off in my life, and I eat out about 10 times a week, usually at 3 or 4 different places, I first would have had a discussion with my daughters, letting them know what I thought about the lack of morality indicated by those who would wear a vulger shirt in any public or private place. Hopefully, I will have been raising my daughters to respect my opinions and have the courtesy to at least listen to my parental advice.

Secondly, I would have had a discussion with the manager of the restaurant, expressing my displeasure that they would allow such a shirt to be worn and displayed in their establishment. And, since 3 of my regular eateries are chain restaurants, I would also inform the manager that I was writting a letter of complaint to the home office and taking my hard earned dollars to an establishment that didnt allow vulgarity to be so blatantly displayed.

Then I would have left, and if I didnt get assurance that the incident wasn't going to be allowed to happen again, I would find another favorite place to eat. It's not so hard in my city with some 200 restaurants to chose from.

Melo, Im thinking sometime in the future, you wont approve of such an action yourself. What goes around always seems to come around.

[olevetonahill]

band or knife?
Knife dumas;)

[sitzpinkler]

http://www.sourimage.com/img/c80f3a83ae0085b479f12b8ad7a2efac/a644_bm.gif

NSFW

[soonerboomer93]

I don't fish for carp. And guess what I have a right to post anything I want. :D Really that is pretty funny that the guy that says anything should go in public is telling me what I should post on a message board.


Actually, no you don't have that right. Not on this message board, and not on the vast majority of message boards. Infact mods may change or delete any post which they choose.

But thanks for playing

[usmc-sooner]

aren't there obscenity laws that basically cover this? What if BF wants to wear a shirt that says I hate ******s? Is that his right?

I'm to the point where I don't even argue with liberals anymore but you want to practice your freedom to expose my kids to obscenity then you better damn well be ready to deal with me. I've done this before in movie theaters, did it at an OU game. It's gone well and it's gone not so well. The guy at the OU game(who dropped the F bomb every time Q ran the ball) actually apologized and that was it. The little punk at the movie theater was cussing an old man and women out, I told him to sit down and shut up, he said make me, I went to his seat sat him down and shut him up.
If I take my kid to a Eddie Murphy concert and they hear the F word bad on me but me and my family shouldn't have to be subjected to it just going out to eat.

[olevetonahill]

aren't there obscenity laws that basically cover this? What if BF wants to wear a shirt that says I hate ******s? Is that his right?

I'm to the point where I don't even argue with liberals anymore but you want to practice your freedom to expose my kids to obscenity then you better damn well be ready to deal with me. I've done this before in movie theaters, did it at an OU game. It's gone well and it's gone not so well. The guy at the OU game(who dropped the F bomb every time Q ran the ball) actually apologized and that was it. The little punk at the movie theater was cussing an old man and women out, I told him to sit down and shut up, he said make me, I went to his seat sat him down and shut him up.
If I take my kid to a Eddie Murphy concert and they hear the F word bad on me but me and my family shouldn't have to be subjected to it just going out to eat.
Aint that what I said ?:cool:

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

USMC~I don't know why you had to make it political. It doesn't have anything to do w/ politics in this case.

[soonerboomer93]

M already pointed out, that it has been decided by the Supreme Court that it's perfectly legal for him to wear a shirt with the word **** on it...

All shirts (except plain ones) are designed to draw certain attention to the wearer. Who's attention it attracts varies, your OU shirt will attract fellow fans who may say something, or it may attract a Horn fan with some choice words for you. The shirt with your company logo may have someone asking you what you do, or the one with the clothing company logo may attract someone of the opposite sex. If they weren't meant to attract a certain amount of attention they wouldn't have the logo on it. Some attract more attention then others and you should be prepared for the consequences, but he still had the right to wear the shirt.

[usmc-sooner]

Aint that what I said ?:cool:

f%^k you, I'm from Texas :D










seriously though I skipped a few pages.

[olevetonahill]

f%^k you, I'm from Texas :D










seriously though I skipped a few pages.
;) :D

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

It's perfectly within my right to wear any of the shirts for purchase at www.tshirthell.com (http://www.tshirthell.com). Looks to me like the shirt would have been ok in a bar type setting, but he probably should have used some discretion.

[usmc-sooner]

USMC~I don't know why you had to make it political. It doesn't have anything to do w/ politics in this case.

Its within my rights to say what I want.

And since Liberal Democrats are destroying the country, I try to give them a FU whenever I can.

[VeeJay]

Being as I'm reasonably well off in my life, and I eat out about 10 times a week, usually at 3 or 4 different places,

Man...I can't wait till I get my AARP card.

[usmc-sooner]

M already pointed out, that it has been decided by the Supreme Court that it's perfectly legal for him to wear a shirt with the word **** on it...

All shirts (except plain ones) are designed to draw certain attention to the wearer. Who's attention it attracts varies, your OU shirt will attract fellow fans who may say something, or it may attract a Horn fan with some choice words for you. The shirt with your company logo may have someone asking you what you do, or the one with the clothing company logo may attract someone of the opposite sex. If they weren't meant to attract a certain amount of attention they wouldn't have the logo on it. Some attract more attention then others and you should be prepared for the consequences, but he still had the right to wear the shirt.

obviously the police must have a local obscenity law, since they made him turn it inside out.

what about the I hate ****** shirts? Is it your right to wear that? I mean it's free speech, and now since free speech means freedom to not use common sense, be obscene, promote porn why not?

[soonerboomer93]

actually no, they didn't make him, they asked him to and he complied. Infact as I recall Melo stated that they advised him they couldn't make him turn it inside out. Being as their already a supreme court ruling on the use of **** on shirts, even a local obscenity law would not prevent him from wearing a shirt that is protected speech...

[Sooner24]

Actually, no you don't have that right. Not on this message board, and not on the vast majority of message boards. Infact mods may change or delete any post which they choose.

But thanks for playing


No that's where you are wrong. Just like the idiot with the shirt I CAN post anything I want. And just like the idiot with the shirt there could be repercussions.

Same difference but thanks for playing.

[soonerboomer93]

no you cant post anything you want

there's a filter on the board that specifilally prevents you from posting certain things

[Mongo]

where is the swayze bomb

[LilSooner]

Its within my rights to say what I want.

And since Liberal Democrats are destroying the country, I try to give them a FU whenever I can.


Cheese and rice man, it's crap like that almost makes me what to turn in my GOP card.

Seriously, you honestly think that only the democrats are destroying this country?

[leavingthezoo]

aren't there obscenity laws that basically cover this? What if BF wants to wear a shirt that says I hate ******s? Is that his right?

I'm to the point where I don't even argue with liberals anymore but you want to practice your freedom to expose my kids to obscenity then you better damn well be ready to deal with me. I've done this before in movie theaters, did it at an OU game. It's gone well and it's gone not so well. The guy at the OU game(who dropped the F bomb every time Q ran the ball) actually apologized and that was it. The little punk at the movie theater was cussing an old man and women out, I told him to sit down and shut up, he said make me, I went to his seat sat him down and shut him up.
If I take my kid to a Eddie Murphy concert and they hear the F word bad on me but me and my family shouldn't have to be subjected to it just going out to eat.

wha? when did this go liberal? NO ONE SENT ME THE LIBERAL SIGNAL!

:mad:

[soonerboomer93]

**** if I know, I'm a conservative...

[soonerboomer93]

oh wait, no I'm a liberal...

[leavingthezoo]

dude, you don't get to decide if you're liberal or not.

THEY do. and no... i don't know who they is... but they know who they is.

[soonerboomer93]

do not talk about they woman, just get in the kitchen and make me some pancakes...


kplzthx...

[olevetonahill]

Why in hell aint me and the other drunk dude gettin massive Spek?
Man we got the baby fed and diapered !:D
took a towel , a beer bottle, a Condom and somr Bread sack ties .
But we goter Done
Or Him done :cool: :pop:

[olevetonahill]

dude, you don't get to decide if you're liberal or not.

THEY do. and no... i don't know who they is... but they know who they is.
**** they !:D

[leavingthezoo]

do not talk about they woman, just get in the kitchen and make me some pancakes...


kplzthx...

fix yer own damn pancakes. i'm burning my bra. :P

[Sooner24]

no you cant post anything you want

there's a filter on the board that specifilally prevents you from posting certain things

Gee if I wanted to type **** it would come out like **** but if I wanted to let you know then I would type it like this pi$$ and you would get the message. Basically I can type anything I want by using a few special characters.

[olevetonahill]

fix yer own damn pancakes. i'm burning my bra. :P
can I burn my draft card with you ?

[soonerboomer93]

but you're still not imputting what you want, you're having to work around...


**** could mean about 4 different things and you have no idea what was acutally put in...

[olevetonahill]

Gee if I wanted to type **** it would come out like **** but if I wanted to let you know then I would type it like this pi$$ and you would get the message. Basically I can type anything I want by using a few special characters.
Yup
then get bained for bypassing the filter :cool:

[VeeJay]

Why in hell aint me and the other drunk dude gettin massive Spek?
Man we got the baby fed and diapered !:D
took a towel , a beer bottle, a Condom and somr Bread sack ties .
But we goter Done
Or Him done :cool: :pop:

This is why the S.O. is such a cool place to hang out.

[soonerboomer93]

fix yer own damn pancakes. i'm burning my bra. :P


whoo hoo, free them baby

and **** this, it's time to threadjack this mother****er...


Earth, Wind, & Fire - "Serpentine Fire"

[soonerboomer93]

Why in hell aint me and the other drunk dude gettin massive Spek?
Man we got the baby fed and diapered !:D
took a towel , a beer bottle, a Condom and somr Bread sack ties .
But we goter Done
Or Him done :cool: :pop:

why, because there's a bunch of worthless, no humor having, I'm first mother ****ers up on this bitch lately

oh, and I mean that in the most polite way possible, ****tards...



;)

[olevetonahill]

This is why the S.O. is such a cool place to hang out.
I swear to OU this is a TRUE story . Hell I cant hardly believe that the Momma left him with me . I met her tonight . I just wish the biznatcho had left me a diaper bag .
Oh well Kindon is gettin spoiled , Just hope no one says anything about him suckin a condom !:cool:

[soonerboomer93]

Rage Against the Machine - "Guerrilla Radio"

Turn that **** up...

[soonerboomer93]

I swear to OU this is a TRUE story . Hell I cant hardly believe that the Momma left him with me . I met her tonight . I just wish the biznatcho had left me a diaper bag .
Oh well Kindon is gettin spoiled , Just hope no one says anything about him suckin a condom !:cool:


you've just created a gay baby

nice going old man...

[soonerboomer93]

Rage Against the Machine - "Down Rodeo"

That's right, I'm going for anarchy on the man

Damn the Man, Save the Empire...

[Sooner24]

but you're still not imputting what you want, you're having to work around...


**** could mean about 4 different things and you have no idea what was acutally put in...


No work around here. PÌŜŜ

[soonerboomer93]

Actually, that's a work around...

[Sooner24]

Split hairs all you want it's the same thing.

[Sooner24]

Yup
then get bained for bypassing the filter :cool:


That's why I said this.


Just like the idiot with the shirt I CAN post anything I want. And just like the idiot with the shirt there could be repercussions.

[soonerboomer93]

you're the one splitting hairs trying to prove a point...

[LoyalFan]

Melo,

We love you, kid, but I gotta say that the man had EVERY right to object to the shirt. I would have and, if the idiot wearing it failed to remove it, I'd have fed it to him.
All that notwithstanding, I must admit you've come down a notch or two in my estimate for defending AND dating a creep.
I suspect I'm not alone.

Sadly,

LF

[Sooner24]

I proved my point. I can bypass the filter if I want and there could be repercussions. That souldn't be too hard to understand.


Out.

[soonerboomer93]

dude, there's some judgmental *********gery going on in this thread, yet again...

[soonerboomer93]

I proved my point. I can bypass the filter if I want and there could be repercussions. That souldn't be too hard to understand.


Out.

yes, you are posting variations of a filtered word in order to get passed the profanity filter, but you have yet to post the actual word...

[olevetonahill]

you've just created a gay baby

nice going old man...
Hey Mcgiver came thru
;)

[1stTimeCaller]

Hey Melo, what did you have to eat at this place? Was it any good?

[olevetonahill]

I proved my point. I can bypass the filter if I want and there could be repercussions. That souldn't be too hard to understand.


Out.
Poor dumb kid
Aint that what I said ? say what ya want . wear waht ya want . burn thr Flag if ya want
Just be ready to Pay :cool:

[1stTimeCaller]

I proved my point. I can bypass the filter if I want and there could be repercussions. That souldn't be too hard to understand.


Out.


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h20/oliviasellars/cartman.jpg

[olevetonahill]

I proved my point. I can bypass the filter if I want and there could be repercussions. That souldn't be too hard to understand.


Out.
So whats so hard to understand about someone giving Melos BF some Concussions ?

[Melo]

Hey Melo, what did you have to eat at this place? Was it any good?

I had Mongolian Chicken, and it was f**kin (;))AWESOME!

:D



Melo,

We love you, kid, but I gotta say that the man had EVERY right to object to the shirt. I would have and, if the idiot wearing it failed to remove it, I'd have fed it to him.
All that notwithstanding, I must admit you've come down a notch or two in my estimate for defending AND dating a creep.
I suspect I'm not alone.

Sadly,

LF

Whoa, man. I said he was an idiot, not a creep! I understand perfectly well that my boy isnt the most mature guy on the face of the planet, and I understand MORE than perfectly well that hes not the most intelligent guy here, either, though I would NEVER tell him that.

Okay, he wore a shirt in bad taste. And hes a creep for that? We've been together for about a year now, and he treats me like a little princess. (let me also add, as a side note - the little promise I made to myself, and went on about when I first joined the board - is still intact. That has to count for SOMETHING) If before we left, I had asked him to wear my girly pink tank top with sequins along the top, I probably would have come close to getting him to do so. I just didnt ask him to change his shirt because I honestly did not think it was that big of a deal. IN FACT - it was my idea in the first place to even go out to eat. So you know, I'LL take the blame for the incident. I dont think hes a creep at all.

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

wha? when did this go liberal? NO ONE SENT ME THE LIBERAL SIGNAL!

:mad:There is no signal. You should just know that anytime something goes wrong in this country, they are going to blame liberals. Personally, I blame Dubya. Melo's bf would not have worn that shirt if we didn't have a cocky texan in the Oval Office.

[TUSooner]

For the record: I have now decided that a vulgar t-shirt is not a harbinger of the End of the World.
Go on about your business.
Thank you.

[SoonerBBall]

Well, after 18 pages another old guy who grew up respecting other peoples feelings is going to chime in.

Im much too old to pick a fight with someone who is 40 years younger than me and has indications of not respecting others. I don't get in arguments with black leather bald headed biker types wearing chain link belts and sporting tatoos all over their body either. I just try to avoid them

Being as I'm reasonably well off in my life, and I eat out about 10 times a week, usually at 3 or 4 different places, I first would have had a discussion with my daughters, letting them know what I thought about the lack of morality indicated by those who would wear a vulger shirt in any public or private place. Hopefully, I will have been raising my daughters to respect my opinions and have the courtesy to at least listen to my parental advice.

Secondly, I would have had a discussion with the manager of the restaurant, expressing my displeasure that they would allow such a shirt to be worn and displayed in their establishment. And, since 3 of my regular eateries are chain restaurants, I would also inform the manager that I was writting a letter of complaint to the home office and taking my hard earned dollars to an establishment that didnt allow vulgarity to be so blatantly displayed.

Then I would have left, and if I didnt get assurance that the incident wasn't going to be allowed to happen again, I would find another favorite place to eat. It's not so hard in my city with some 200 restaurants to chose from.

Melo, Im thinking sometime in the future, you wont approve of such an action yourself. What goes around always seems to come around.

Exactly. See Pricetag, I would expect you to have taught your daughters well enough that seeing the word **** on a shirt would't be a big deal. They'd right the guy off as a ********* and move on. And what part of him wearing a stupid *** shirt makes you think that it gives you the right to verbally assault him? Once again, if he brings the fight to you, go for it, but if he is minding his own business, maybe you should mind yours.

[SoonerBBall]

There is no signal. You should just know that anytime something goes wrong in this country, they are going to blame liberals. Personally, I blame Dubya. Melo's bf would not have worn that shirt if we didn't have a cocky texan in the Oval Office.

GWB invented that shirt. He loves it when it causes retards to fight in public. Shores up the GOP vote.

[olevetonahill]

Exactly. See Pricetag, I would expect you to have taught your daughters well enough that seeing the word **** on a shirt would't be a big deal. They'd right the guy off as a ********* and move on. And what part of him wearing a stupid *** shirt makes you think that it gives you the right to verbally assault him? Once again, if he brings the fight to you, go for it, but if he is minding his own business, maybe you should mind yours.
I wouldnt VERBALLY ASSAULT him.
No way :D

[Pricetag]

Exactly. See Pricetag, I would expect you to have taught your daughters well enough that seeing the word **** on a shirt would't be a big deal. They'd right the guy off as a ********* and move on. And what part of him wearing a stupid *** shirt makes you think that it gives you the right to verbally assault him? Once again, if he brings the fight to you, go for it, but if he is minding his own business, maybe you should mind yours.
He brought the fight to anyone who can see him by wearing the shirt, period. It's no different than if it had come from his own mouth.

If people choose to ignore it, that's their perogative. But anyone who chooses to engage him is justified.

[Sooner24]

He brought the fight to anyone who can see him by wearing the shirt, period. It's no different than if it had come from his own mouth.

If people choose to ignore it, that's their perogative. But anyone who chooses to engage him is justified.


Spek!

[TheUnnamedSooner]

I'm new to the thread, got tired of reading by page 6. So, if this has been brought up already, I'm sorry.

1) The guy should get his azz kicked b/c he is from texass.

2) Melo, why are you dating someone from texass?

[Melo]

I'm new to the thread, got tired of reading by page 6. So, if this has been brought up already, I'm sorry.

1) The guy should get his azz kicked b/c he is from texass.

2) Melo, why are you dating someone from texass?


Because... I am from Texas and I live in Texas, for starters.

[SoonerBBall]

He brought the fight to anyone who can see him by wearing the shirt, period. It's no different than if it had come from his own mouth.

If people choose to ignore it, that's their perogative. But anyone who chooses to engage him is justified.

Wow. So the shirt constitutes an attack on everyone who sees it? When I wear my O'Connell's shirt that says "Got Lucky?" out in public, I guess I am hoping that everyone comes up and expresses to me whether they got luck or not, right? How about my shirt that says "Word to your Mother"? Am I literally saying "word" to your mother? Yours specifically, thus inciting you with the imagery of what I did or did not do to your mother after saying "word" but before I bought this inflammatory shirt expressing my (maybe) inappropriate actions?

Thought so.

I guess I can kind of understand the ridiculous need to find some reason to be offended when you see the word **** in public, but this is kind of stretching it. It is just a ****ing t-shirt. Find a worthwhile target for you disdain. May I suggest www.rosieodonnell.com?

[SCOUT]

Wow. So the shirt constitutes an attack on everyone who sees it? When I wear my O'Connell's shirt that says "Got Lucky?" out in public, I guess I am hoping that everyone comes up and expresses to me whether they got luck or not, right? How about my shirt that says "Word to your Mother"? Am I literally saying "word" to your mother? Yours specifically, thus inciting you with the imagery of what I did or did not do to your mother after saying "word" but before I bought this inflammatory shirt expressing my (maybe) inappropriate actions?

Thought so.

I guess I can kind of understand the ridiculous need to find some reason to be offended when you see the word **** in public, but this is kind of stretching it. It is just a ****ing t-shirt. Find a worthwhile target for you disdain. May I suggest www.rosieodonnell.com?

Your examples are all insinuations to vulgarity and not vulgarity itself. If you used an example like "I F***ED your Mother" then that would be on par.

Just because you don't respect the sensitivities of others doesn't mean that others shouldn't have those sensitivities.

[soonerboomer93]

respect is a 2 way street...

[SicEmBaylor]

I'm impressed. 17 pages of *********gery related posting, and it's not related to a Sic'em adventure.
I assure you that if my *********gery behavior ever involved wearing a sleazy shirt with cuss words in public then I give Dean permission right here and now to take me out to pasture and just shoot me.

[oumartin]

okay, I am pretty liberal in alot of ways. I don't care what people do. I don't rip on people for living certain ways or doing as they please. To each their own I say. I'm all for havin' a good time but after reading most of the posts in this thread I truly believe this is why America is going into the crapper!

The younger generation and their "don't tell me what to do" attitude and parents not absolutely beating their child within an inch of their life for doing some of the things they do(I am one of those children & parents) is going to absolutely be the end of us all.


I gave this thead a 5 star rating.
Melo, This is a very thought provoking thread.
If I saw your boyfriend wearing that shirt out I would probably laugh at it but if my kids were with me I would think somebody should whip his butt!

[Turd_Ferguson]

okay, I am pretty liberal in alot of ways. I don't care what people do. I don't rip on people for living certain ways or doing as they please. To each their own I say. I'm all for havin' a good time but after reading most of the posts in this thread I truly believe this is why America is going into the crapper!

The younger generation and their "don't tell me what to do" attitude and parents not absolutely beating their child within an inch of their life for doing some of the things they do(I am one of those children & parents) is going to absolutely be the end of us all.

Hammer. On head. Of nail.

[soonerboomer93]

I assure you that if my *********gery behavior ever involved wearing a sleazy shirt with cuss words in public then I give Dean permission right here and now to take me out to pasture and just shoot me.

personally, if you wore a shirt like that, I think the board would give you a standing ovation, since your balls finally dropped...

[jk the sooner fan]

i'm not sure it takes balls to wear a shirt like that - just stupidity

[Okla-homey]

Wearing a shirt like that equates to taping a "Kick me" sign on your own back.
Kinda sad really.

Probably just a manifestation of youthful rebellion. Hopefully the shirt-wearer will outgrow such foolishness before something bad happens, but if not, he'll find out what it truly means to be a "bitch" when the wrong guy spies it, rips it off and crams it up his pooper.

[SoonerBorn68]

So basically after marinating on this for the night this is what I dont get. Why is it that the same people on here who love to spout off platitudes about america and the freedoms we have are first ones to want to restrict those freedoms around their values system and what they consider to be decent and moral?

It seems hypocritical to me. Basically it is saying "I am all for freedom of speech until somebody says something I dont agree with and if you dont think that way I am going to look down on you." Look the shirt is retarded and it is just to attract attention, but that doesnt excuse the other guy for being oppressive push his ideal system down Melo's bf's throat. He was a jerk and acting like a jack ***, and as Melo already stated if he would have been more polite her bf probably would have turned the shirt around without the police and the yelling etc. Funny how that guy gets of the hook for his transgressions just because he is part of the moral majority.

Why does everyone have to bow down to what "you" think is moral? And why does everyone who doesnt have children have to change their behavior for those that do? I hate children I am not going to lie, I cant stand them. And I cant stand the: "you need to have respect for my kids." Like they dont hear the word **** 80 times a day by the time they are in 6th grade. Give me a break. What about having some respect for those of us that dont have them and keep them at home.

Also calling out Melo on who she wants to date is just uncalled for, I am sure that everyone here has dated someone that has done something "inappropriate" in public. I just think it is crazy that he is obviously a terrible person because he wears **** on his shirt, what about making somebody happy, love or any of that good stuff?

I'm not asking anyone here to wear a shirt that has curse words or to like it, and even though I cant see myself ever wearing one I think you should respect my right to do so.

Did you receive some sort of head injury as a child that turned off your moral compass?

Oh, and my guess is you're about 24--and fresh out of college. You and Melo get some real world experiences under your belts & get back to us. :rolleyes:

[85Sooner]

I didnt see a problem with it to begin with. Its just a shirt. With a word on it. Maybe I am in the wrong, too. To me, words are just that, words. I mean, if it said something like 'Id like to F**k your daughter' or 'I f**king hate you'... then yea, it would be completely different, in my eyes.


Your very wrong on this. Also ...... I know what I would think of a woman who would be seen with someone wearing that shirt. Doe sth e thought no class come to mind? Sorry. wearing a shirt like that in public shows a disregard for everyone.

[1stTimeCaller]

OMG!! I just saw this thread.

Has anyone mentioned that the wearer of shirts like that is a *********? What about the ex cop? Has anyone called him a *********? Has anyone asked Melo why she would date a guy like that?

TIA

;)

[Okieflyer]

Why is youth, wasted on the young?:confused:


Your dumbass boyfriend wore that shirt for one reason. To get a reaction out of people. To be the center of attention. To have everyone go "look at that guy's shirt." It's the same reason people dye their hair pink, dress like ghouls, and stick jewelry into their faces. It ain't got a damn thing to do with "freedom of expression." It's all about "look at me everybody, I'm a ****ing moron."

Really this quote is the bottom line.
It's why people go on the Jerry Springer show. Why would you do that?

"Free speech" is the one the most misused terms in the history of man. You can't run into a theater helling "fire, fire". There is a line on everything. The younger want that line pushed back. The elder want to hold that line. I almost get this feeling that some of you would like to get rid of any lines. Would you really want "needle" park in your neighborhood?

Yes the shirt thing is not to that extreme, but there is a line and everyone is trying to push it. But even though you think you know where the line should be, you don't get decide. Society does.

Nice thing about being older and wiser, because we've been there, is the fact we know the youth will turn. It comes from experience. I don't know anyone who hasn't said "what was I thinking?". Guess what, one thing the older crowd knows is you younger people will too someday. Then we can all sit on the porch sipping our tea or lemonade and say "yeah, I know what you mean".:D

[1stTimeCaller]

You can't run into a theater helling "fire, fire".

But you can run to a fire and yell, 'Theater!'.

[Okieflyer]

But you can run to a fire and yell, 'Theater!'.

I figured someone would say that. :D

[jk the sooner fan]

But you can run to a fire and yell, 'Theater!'.

is it ok to yell MOVIE in a crowded firehouse?

[1stTimeCaller]

is it ok to yell MOVIE in a crowded firehouse?

I don't think so. You'd either wake them up or interrupt the ping pong game.

[Blue]

Just read the first page of this. Your bf is a punk and you by association are a punk. Do us a favor and don't reproduce.

You want to look and act like scumbags, be prepared to be treated like scumbags.

[soonerboomer93]

i'm not sure it takes balls to wear a shirt like that - just stupidity

considering how much sicem likes approval and especially likes to be "in" when it comes to fashion and fitting in at baylor, him wearing that would be a sign he was bucking his sheep mentality...

[Melo]

Just read the first page of this. Your bf is a punk and you by association are a punk. Do us a favor and don't reproduce.

You want to look and act like scumbags, be prepared to be treated like scumbags.

Honestly, I dont think name calling is very called for. Your opinion is just as valid as mine. I didnt post this because I needed to feel validated or I wanted someone to agree or disagree with me. I posted it because I thought it was something interesting, to see how everyone would react to the situation if they were themselves in the situation. I did NOT come in here and throw around my opinion saying I believed anything one way or the other. I think the only thing I really DID stand by and agree with was that the shirt should NOT have been worn in public.

BUT, while we're on the subject, this is EXACTLY what I was talking about. When did I come in here and say anything totally wrong or negative? WHEN did I come in here and accuse people or throw about rude words? But you feel like your opinion on who and what I am is important enough to throw it out there, calling me (us) several different names? How is that justified? That is a PERSONAL attack against me. What did I do to you? This is just like the situation I explained earlier. Explain to me exactly what it is that I did to you that makes calling me names and being negative towards me justified. Sure, you dont agree with a shirt my boyriend wore in public - HOW... EXACTLY HOW does that make me a loser punk scumbag kid?

Im fine with the 'young and stupid' remarks. I know I make dumb mistakes, I know Im young and learning. And you know what? Im enjoyng every minute of it. I havent gone to jail, gotten pregnant, dropped out of school, nothing horrible - Yet obviously Im a young loser punk scumbag. I mean, I dont carry around a 'better than you' or a 'Im 20 years old and I know more than you do' attitude. Hell, plenty of times Ive come here asking for advice, after turning to my own family and older co-workers. So it seems that my only transgression in this whole entire situation was being seen in public with a boy who had the word 'f**k' written on his shirt. Please, someone... explain to me how this makes me a punk scumbag.

EDIT: and why the hell does that deserve a neg? THAT is why I dont give a **** about giving people 'respect' and being the good moral child. You call yourself an adult, yet turn around and treat others like you do. You know, I think Im not the one who needs to grow up.

[colleyvillesooner]

Don't mind him, he's just an OLD punk scumbag.

[Melo]

Don't mid him, he's just an OLD punk scumbag.

No, thats not the point. I didnt write any of this to be negative or force an opinion. It was something that happened, and to a point, it was fun to see the dividing line between everyones opinions. Aside from the 'young' comments, no one said anything overly rude. Except for Blue. I honestly dont think I deserved those rude comments.

[jk the sooner fan]

assuming the clock on the server is correct, he posted that at 0127am...blue has a history of posting late nite/early morning under the influence

[C&CDean]

assuming the clock on the server is correct, he posted that at 0127am...blue has a history of posting late nite/early morning under the influence

Don't be a co-dependent.

[bonkuba]

IMHO, there's a measure of common decency that's inherent. Yes, it's just a word, and yes, we use variations of the word of this board. But we are adults.

If I am in a restaurant with my seven year old, and the t-shirt is at the next table, my kid is going to ask questions about what the word means. That's not the time or the place. As I navigate my way through an awkward situation, my dinner is ruined by your bf's poor taste.

What's the point of the boyfriend's actions by displaying this? Plainly, it's to shock. Do not be surprised by the retired cop confronting him. WTF did you expect? (of course pun's intended)

Wear the shirt around the house - to a bar - but not to a restaurant where there are kids or families.

A little common sense usually works.


I completely agree with this. Being a fairly new dad....I tried to think how I would explain that to my son (other than the immediate...."Just don't mind him son...the shirt explains a lot about him"). Anyway, not to get too far off subject I know that the world unfortunately is filled with these words plastered in areas that we would have never dreamed of in the past...but we have allowed this to happen...so shame on us.

Is wearing the shirt wrong and in bad taste? Sure, does he have a right to wear it? Yes. However, I am glad that some people do try and take a stand to try and protect their children from such things (at least for a while). The "ex-cop" should not have gotten so upset (agreed)...but he probably passionately cares for his family (children, etc)....which is a good thing...we actually need more of that in this day and time. The opposite could be said for someone that would wear something like that in public.

Feel free to bash away on me on this but before you do think (as others have stated) how you would feel trying to explain this to your young child.

[jk the sooner fan]

Don't be a co-dependent.

yes dad

:rolleyes:

[jk the sooner fan]

this thread reminds me of sooner scooters "you arent a real fan" in the football folder

:)

[Melo]

assuming the clock on the server is correct, he posted that at 0127am...blue has a history of posting late nite/early morning under the influence

Thats no more of an excuse than everyone claimed the 'its just a word' excuse was...

[Hamhock]

iffin' i was a mod, i'd lock this thread.

[C&CDean]

Thats no more of an excuse than everyone claimed the 'its just a word' excuse was...

Or "it's just the innerweb...."

[jk the sooner fan]

Thats no more of an excuse than everyone claimed the 'its just a word' excuse was...

i wasnt excusing it, i was just telling you to not take it personal

[OU4LIFE]

except that THAT thread was staged to get a response. This one is reality.

[jk the sooner fan]

except that THAT thread was staged to get a response. This one is reality.


true but it kept sucking people into the original post for weeks after....

[Hatfield]

how in the world did i miss out on this thread for so long

[leavingthezoo]

Honestly, I dont think name calling is very called for.

BUT, while we're on the subject, this is EXACTLY what I was talking about. When did I come in here and say anything totally wrong or negative? WHEN did I come in here and accuse people or throw about rude words?

Please, someone... explain to me how this makes me a punk scumbag.



i don't think you're a punk scumbag. you did, however, establish multiple times that "words are just words". calling names is "just using words." you've since determined that some of these words are "rude" since they are being used in a way that you don't agree with. so... words aren't just words anymore, are they?

i think if you can accept how strongly you've responded to someone using "just words" in a way you find unacceptable, you can understand it the other way around. (which i think you get until you backtrack a bit...)

that situation is over though. i'm more curious as to how you will handle said shirt, or similar shirt in the future, or if you're ok with accepting the same scenario again (this time not being shocked by the response, but being prepared for it?)

[Melo]

i wasnt excusing it, i was just telling you to not take it personal

See, it cant be both ways. If Im not taking it personal, no one should take my *********/bf's f**k shirt personal.

Personal attack is a personal attack.

What if ex cop had had a few beers with dinner and wasnt completely sober when he approached *********? Is his actions excusable? Or what if ********* doesnt have the mental capacity (*giggle*) to know that the shirt was offensive? Is his actions excusable?

Nope. Everyone is accountable for their actions. Blue called me a punk scumbag, and yes Im going to be a little girl and cry about it.

(Im not used to being treated in mean ways :( )

[jk the sooner fan]

what you consider a personal attack may be different than the man sitting in the restaurant.....he may consider an offensive shirt in public an attack on his family's ability to eat in peace without profanity

know what i mean?

[Melo]

i don't think you're a punk scumbag. you did, however, establish multiple times that "words are just words". calling names is "just using words." you've since determined that some of these words are "rude" since they are being used in a way that you don't agree with. so... words aren't just words anymore, are they?

i think if you can accept how strongly you've responded to someone using "just words" in a way you find unacceptable, you can understand it the other way around. (which i think you get until you backtrack a bit...)

that situation is over though. i'm more curious as to how you will handle said shirt, or similar shirt in the future, or if you're ok with accepting the same scenario again (this time not being shocked by the response, but being prepared for it?)

I see your point. Shame on me. :D You have a good point though, my bad. My thing is, I dont blame the cop for saying something. I just thought the way it was handled was a bit uncalled for.

Giving your opinion or asking someone to do something is one thing, but calling names and being rude is not cool, especially when youre wanting respect in return.

If were going out to dinner or a movie or something and he wears the shirt, Im going to tell him one that I like better and hope he takes the hint. I dont want to be his mamma, but I dont want rude beyonces making my general area into a big scene, either.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

My 3 year old cant read a shirt like the one being discussed but she does repeat everything she hears somebody say. Thats probably a bigger concern to me right now. I m not with the person wearing the shirt then whatever. I probably would have sat at a different table with him wearing that shirt. But Mel is the one that makes that decision in this case, not an "ex-cop", which was probably missing the feeling of enforcing his authorita and found a good opportunity to try and use it again.

I would have told my kids had they been older"If you ever wear a shirt like that, I ll take away everything you own and whip you no matter how old you are". And maybe asked to be seated somewhere else is also a possibility.

Like I said shirts dont bother me that much. Its when these guys come in a restaurant after I have already sat down with my family, and curse out loud like they need Miracle Ear to hear.

[colleyvillesooner]

I found a new girl for ********* ;)

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07022007/news/regionalnews/mrs__a_rod_is_a_bronx_f_bomber_regionalnews_dan_ma ngan_and_david_k__li.htm


BRONX F-BOMBER
OBSCENE SHIRT SHOCKS STADIUM

By DAN MANGAN and DAVID K. LI

ERROR! Cynthia Rodriguez’s shirt offers an obscene view to kids and others seated behind her at Yankee Stadium yesterday as she holds daughter Natasha on her lap.

Yankee superstar Alex Rodriguez's long-suffering wife, Cynthia, may have finally flipped her pretty lid yesterday when she went to a game in The Bronx wearing a tight-fitting, white tank top bearing a foul message on the back: "F- - - you."

The obscene phrase was plainly visible to thousands of fans - including plenty of kids - as she, her 2-year-old daughter, Natasha, and an older woman took their seats in the players' family section of the House that Ruth Built.

"[One] father, was so embarrassed, he got up and left and took his son," who appeared to be about 10 years old, a fan said.

"I mean this kid was right in back of Cynthia - his nose must have been about 4 inches away from the words 'F- - - you.' "

Cynthia's F-word faux pas also may have violated Yankee Stadium policy.

The team's policy prohibits any banners or signs that are not in "good taste" and also warns that security guards will eject any guests "using foul language" or "making obscene gestures."

Still, when some fans let nearby security know about Cynthia's four-letter garment yesterday, nothing was done.

"It was noted by police and security," one fan said. "They were aware of it. I guess they didn't know what to do. I guess you don't kick A-Rod's wife out of the game."

It's not clear who the target was of Cynthia's F-bomb: Yankee fans, management, the media - or even perhaps her wandering husband.

But if Cynthia, 34, was trying to light a fire under A-Rod's struggling team with her shocking message, it didn't work - the bumbling Bronx Bombers got thumped 11-5 by the Oakland A's.

The loss left them four games under .500 and 11 games behind the arch rival Boston Red Sox, who are solidly in first place in the American League East.

Cynthia's shocking breach of stadium etiquette comes a month after she was publicly humiliated by her straying hubby's catting around the country and Canada with a busty, blond Las Vegas stripper and Playboy wannabe named Joslyn Noel Morse - revealed in a Post expos&#233;.

Despite - or perhaps because of - those randy revelations, Alex Rodriguez, 31, has been on fire when it comes to the baseball diamond, batting a jaw-dropping, Major League-leading .406 over the last month.

Howard Rubenstein, the spokesman for Yankees owner George Steinbrenner, last night said he could not reach The Boss or other Bombers executives for comment on Cynthia's sartorial stunt.

A-Rod's agent, Scott Boras, could not be reached


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[TheUnnamedSooner]

Because... I am from Texas and I live in Texas, for starters.

This explains a lot ;)

[olevetonahill]

i don't think you're a punk scumbag. you did, however, establish multiple times that "words are just words". calling names is "just using words." you've since determined that some of these words are "rude" since they are being used in a way that you don't agree with. so... words aren't just words anymore, are they?

i think if you can accept how strongly you've responded to someone using "just words" in a way you find unacceptable, you can understand it the other way around. (which i think you get until you backtrack a bit...)

that situation is over though. i'm more curious as to how you will handle said shirt, or similar shirt in the future, or if you're ok with accepting the same scenario again (this time not being shocked by the response, but being prepared for it?)

And Zoo hit the nail on the head :cool:

[Blue]

Waaa waaa waa Melo.

I was completely sober (thank you jk ;) ) when I made that assertion. You post it in a public forum and I commented. I posted exactly what I thought.

Sorry if you didn't like my opinion, but I bet that's exactly what 99% of the people who saw that shirt thought.