Just back from Dallas. Dont know if i like the place or not [Archive]

OUHOMER

6/19/2007, 08:28 PM

1. traffic was terrible
2. Dry counties , never did understand this ( yea, they put me up in a dry county)
3. did I mention the traffic

Note to hotel, please check the batteries in the smoke detector before you rent out the room. (Damn thing started beeping at midnight last night. every 6 mins it would go off.):mad:
note to hotel. If you are going to put out a breakfast, please make sure the egg and bacon are at least warm.:cool:

GottaHavePride

6/19/2007, 08:31 PM

Well, don't judge a city by a hotel.

That said, I've been to Dallas many times, and while there's a lot to do down there and it can be a fun city, I wouldn't want to live there.

jk the sooner fan

6/19/2007, 08:40 PM

what part of dallas were you in?

OUHOMER

6/19/2007, 08:41 PM

No hotel didn't have anything to do with it, But it seemed like everybody was in a hurry to go nowhere.

OUHOMER

6/19/2007, 08:42 PM

what part of dallas were you in?

Off 114 and estes or esters just north of DFW.

jk the sooner fan

6/19/2007, 08:43 PM

thats not dallas ;)

OUHOMER

6/19/2007, 08:47 PM

thats not dallas ;)

OK to be honest, I dont know where the hell i was then. :O

we were meeting in Coppell, I think I had to buy the beer in Grapevine.

jk the sooner fan

6/19/2007, 08:48 PM

yeah that sounds about right...there's about 3 burbs you could have been in out there

its all the same though, and yeah, the traffic is crazy - especially near the airport

yermom

6/19/2007, 08:53 PM

i almost always have fun in Dallas

and driving there got me ready for traffic anywhere :D

you need a car that can merge... i feared for my life driving the ex's Jetta down there

BajaOklahoma

6/19/2007, 09:18 PM

One thing's for sure, my kid's all learned to drive down here and I know they can drive anywhere!
We measure the distance by the amount of time it takes to get there. It's 23 miles from my house to my son's apt. It takes 35 minutes, most of it on Bush, if I don't run into traffic on 35. Uggggh!

OUinFLA

6/19/2007, 09:41 PM

Sounds about the same as I remember it 40 years ago.

RacerX

6/19/2007, 09:41 PM

what part of dallas were you in?

Can't you read?

The part with the bad traffic!

Sooner24

6/19/2007, 09:51 PM

Sounds about the same as I remember it 40 years ago.

I'm so old I remember when I-30 was the Dallas/Ft Worth Turnpike. :(

OU Adonis

6/19/2007, 09:57 PM

I lived in Plano for a short time in the late 90s. I hated it. Nice place to visit but not a place for my own personal lifestyle.

olevetonahill

6/19/2007, 10:08 PM

What part of Saxet succs did you miss ?:confused:

Soonerus

6/19/2007, 10:10 PM

GHP hit the nail on the head, nice place to visit but I would never,ever live there....

jk the sooner fan

6/19/2007, 10:14 PM

i love it here

Soonerus

6/19/2007, 10:16 PM

i love it here

I have no doubt there are great areas to live in the Dallas area, as good as anywhere, I just can't stand the traffic...

jk the sooner fan

6/19/2007, 10:17 PM

yep, the traffic does suck

Soonerus

6/19/2007, 10:21 PM

Just remember Dallas has always been called "Big D" or been referred to by monikers such as "Bigger than Dallas" by most Oklahoman's...

Widescreen

6/20/2007, 12:44 AM

Dallas sucks. North Dallas burbs not so much. I like it here. A lot.

crawfish

6/20/2007, 07:17 AM

I wouldn't want to live in Dallas either...

FW area is much better.

SeattleOUstudent

6/20/2007, 11:32 AM

Uptown taint bad, either. Traffic isnt bad as long as you dont get on the highways. The burbians are the ones that make our traffic so bad :)

TexasLidig8r

6/20/2007, 11:58 AM

Dallas

As for traffic, know your back roads and alternate routes.

Very good restaurants.

Average theater and opera.

Attractive women.

Passable golf courses.

Incompetent city government

Wretched public schools (except for the far burbs)

Good business environment.

Great access at DFW to either the east coast or west coast.

SicEmBaylor

6/20/2007, 12:44 PM

i almost always have fun in Dallas

and driving there got me ready for traffic anywhere :D

you need a car that can merge... i feared for my life driving the ex's Jetta down there
B-I-N-G-O

Having to drive through Dallas on my way home all the time and then going up there on weekends did wonders for my driving ability. I think I can drive anywhere now.

TUSooner

6/20/2007, 02:10 PM

The last time I was in the Dallas area for a week or so (up around Plano) I remember thinking that is was so big, and parts of it so new and impersonal and generically modern, that I actually missed the warm, cramped, homey decay of New Orleans. That's says much more bad about Dallas than it says good about New Orleans.

Mjcpr

6/20/2007, 02:13 PM

B-I-N-G-O

Having to drive through Dallas on my way home all the time and then going up there on weekends did wonders for my driving ability. I think I can drive anywhere now.

Even to Houston?

SicEmBaylor

6/20/2007, 02:16 PM

Even to Houston?
I haven't driven to Houston in years. :D

GrapevineSooner

6/20/2007, 02:21 PM

I wouldn't want to live in Dallas either...

FW area is much better.

I concur. ;)

Beef

6/20/2007, 02:46 PM

Any part of Dallas rocks traffic wise if you stay in that area. It's when you try to go from Downtown to Addison or Lakewood to Plano type of things where the **** traffic happens.

BajaOklahoma

6/20/2007, 06:55 PM

TU :mad: That's my part of town - sort of. Plano actually has a couple of farms in the middle of town - working farms actually. Founding father's descendents. There are also acreages with horses, acreages with no horses, dog parks, parks, bike trails, "downtown" with brick streets (ok, 2 blks worth), Outdoor Learning Center (rescue wild animals, run by the schools), Nature Preserve and much more. You were in west and north Pano, which isn't "real" by any standards.

royalfan5

6/20/2007, 07:00 PM

I don't know what's so special about Dallas. Why all the attention for a suburb of Denton?

King Crimson

6/20/2007, 07:03 PM

i hate Dallas.

C&CDean

6/20/2007, 07:29 PM

i hate Dallas.

Winner.

Dallas blows. It's in Texas, it's too big, people can't drive for ****, it's dirty, and did I mention it's in Texas?

We used to go to Dallas a couple times a year just for the hell of it. You know, to see where Oswald killed JFK or the 6 Flags thing with the kids. Now, unless it's on business, I go to Dallas one time a year - and dread everything about it except Pappadeaux's and the football game. I even quit going down to Ennis for the drag races because you have to go through Dallas to get there.

If I have to be down there, I prefer Ft. Worth - by a long shot.

SoonerGirl06

6/20/2007, 07:35 PM

Rush hour seems to be 24/7 around here nowadays and it totally blows.

There are many days I want to jihad just about everyone on the road.

OUHOMER

6/20/2007, 07:55 PM

i think what amazed me, is when we would ask for directions from the locals, they didn't know where **** was. Or if they did and there were 2 of them they would argue over the best way to get there.

King Crimson

6/20/2007, 08:02 PM

royalfan5

6/20/2007, 08:13 PM

when you drive north from "Dallas" and not even past Denton....are you totally periphery *******ed by chili's or fake interstate Mexican restaurants...that apparently Texans love....for 60 miles

and then you cross into the clean landscape of Oklahoma.
and hit a barrage of potholes. I was shocked by how bad the interstate was through Oklahoma when I drove down to Dallas.

OUHOMER

6/20/2007, 08:18 PM

and hit a barrage of potholes. I was shocked by how bad the interstate was through Oklahoma when I drove down to Dallas.
i actually thought i 35 was in great shape, better than its ever been

royalfan5

6/20/2007, 08:21 PM

i actually thought i 35 was in great shape, better than its ever been
Nebraska and Kansas have very solid roads, and maybe that has set my standards higher. I don't know but either was I was very unimpressed with the condition of I-35.

King Crimson

6/20/2007, 08:23 PM

and hit a barrage of potholes. I was shocked by how bad the interstate was through Oklahoma when I drove down to Dallas.

please. i hope someday to live in a world that is not primarily focussed on you fulfulling your interstate fantasies.

because the 70 miles north of Dallas are all about you.

have some great mall queso at Casa Whatever. you'll have 8 times to do i t.

royalfan5

6/20/2007, 08:28 PM

please. i hope someday to live in a world that is not primarily focussed on you fulfulling your interstate fantasies.

because the 70 miles north of Dallas are all about you.

have some great mall queso at Casa Whatever. you'll have 8 times to do i t.
What? I found that stretch of road to be semi-crappy, and the truck stop bathrooms were covered in feces in Oklahoma City. It left me less than impressed. If it wasn't for the fact that I was trying to get from Wichita to Dallas for a 10:00A:M kickoff, I probably wouldn't have taken interstate at all, but I took it out of neccessity. I rarely ever driver interstates unless time constraints dictate it. Hell I drove to Eastern Colorado and back without taking any 4 lane roads. So I wouldn't worry about my mall queso consumption.

King Crimson

6/20/2007, 08:35 PM

you are getting upset about nothing. i'm not criticizing you. i prefer bad roads to north dallas strip chain america.

we can't hold out for long, but why give in?

C&CDean

6/20/2007, 09:10 PM

What? I found that stretch of road to be semi-crappy, and the truck stop bathrooms were covered in feces in Oklahoma City. It left me less than impressed. If it wasn't for the fact that I was trying to get from Wichita to Dallas for a 10:00A:M kickoff, I probably wouldn't have taken interstate at all, but I took it out of neccessity. I rarely ever driver interstates unless time constraints dictate it. Hell I drove to Eastern Colorado and back without taking any 4 lane roads. So I wouldn't worry about my mall queso consumption.

Oh c'mon. There's **** covered turlets in every state. They're working on that stretch of I-35 (we get rain, which turns to ice, which turns to rain, which turns to ice all winter). But if you're gonna judge Oklahoma and Oklahoma roads on one trip down there for a Nibbish football game then the "N" does stand for nowledge.

When you're driving North on 35, and you come around that big sweeping curve and cross the Red into Oklahoma, everything, and I mean everything gets better. The scenery, the air, the people, you name it. So we've got a few bumps in the road...

royalfan5

6/20/2007, 09:16 PM

Oh c'mon. There's **** covered turlets in every state. They're working on that stretch of I-35 (we get rain, which turns to ice, which turns to rain, which turns to ice all winter). But if you're gonna judge Oklahoma and Oklahoma roads on one trip down there for a Nibbish football game then the "N" does stand for nowledge.

When you're driving North on 35, and you come around that big sweeping curve and cross the Red into Oklahoma, everything, and I mean everything gets better. The scenery, the air, the people, you name it. So we've got a few bumps in the road...
I didn't judge all Oklahoma roads. I judged I-35. There's a difference. And it wasn't just the toliet. It was the walls, floors, and mirror above the sink. It was like somebody ate at Ryan's first.

King Crimson

6/20/2007, 09:17 PM

When you're driving North on 35, and you come around that big sweeping curve and cross the Red into Oklahoma, everything, and I mean everything gets better. The scenery, the air, the people, you name it. So we've got a few bumps in the road...

that's exactly what i said. everything feels cleaner. and you breathe a little easier,

it's a palpable sensation.

C&CDean

6/20/2007, 09:23 PM

I didn't judge all Oklahoma roads. I judged I-35. There's a difference. And it wasn't just the toliet. It was the walls, floors, and mirror above the sink. It was like somebody ate at Ryan's first.

Ooooh, you stopped at THAT truckstop. Well we keep it all ****ty like that so you damned foreigners don't want to stay. Nobody from here ever stops at that place.

soonerscuba

6/20/2007, 09:27 PM

I've never been to a place with more people pretending to be rich. You live in Dallas, TX, and nobody outside of the Dragonfly, Ghost Bar, etc. gives a **** about you, or your city. Drop the act.

royalfan5

6/20/2007, 09:27 PM

Ooooh, you stopped at THAT truckstop. Well we keep it all ****ty like that so you damned foreigners don't want to stay. Nobody from here ever stops at that place.
The Ardmore one was nice as was the one in Tonkawa, it was just the OKC one that was ****ty. If I can't be unimpressed with a business not even meeting basic standards of cleanliness, what can I be unimpressed with?

C&CDean

6/20/2007, 09:34 PM

The Ardmore one was nice as was the one in Tonkawa, it was just the OKC one that was ****ty. If I can't be unimpressed with a business not even meeting basic standards of cleanliness, what can I be unimpressed with?

The roads?

royalfan5

6/20/2007, 09:36 PM

The roads?
Really just one road. The access road in Moore was quite nice.

GrapevineSooner

6/20/2007, 09:44 PM

So nice to see my birthplace get so much love around here. :D

mdklatt

6/20/2007, 11:13 PM

i actually thought i 35 was in great shape, better than its ever been

True, but that's not saying much.

Soonerus

6/20/2007, 11:22 PM

Texas roads succ...

mdklatt

6/20/2007, 11:24 PM

Texas roads succ...

Compared to Oklahoma roads? Are you high?

Soonerus

6/20/2007, 11:28 PM

Yes Texas roads succ more than Oklahoma, especially with the night-time speed limits...really stupid....

SicEmBaylor

6/20/2007, 11:42 PM

Yes Texas roads succ more than Oklahoma, especially with the night-time speed limits...really stupid....
Those stupid freakin' *** night limits drive me crazy. It means that I always try to get out of the state and back to OK before it gets dark.

critical_phil

6/21/2007, 12:11 AM

The access road in Moore was quite nice.

we're especially proud of that one. it was completed in just a shade under 8 years.

as far as I35, it's never in great condition. here in OK, we just had one of the craziest winters in recent memory - and now it's rained non-stop since april. it's really done a number on all our roads.

the roads will get back to passable at some point.

SicEmBaylor

6/21/2007, 12:41 AM

we're especially proud of that one. it was completed in just a shade under 8 years.

That kind of reminds me of the BA construction that I'm pretty sure took most of my life to complete.

RacerX

6/21/2007, 06:43 AM

Dear Royal,

Have you driven the non toll I-35 in Kansas?

Zowee!

jk the sooner fan

6/21/2007, 06:45 AM

i-35 north of OKC is truly the suck - horrible

there are stretches of 35 in texas that arent much better though

doesnt matter, oklahoma or texas, crappy roads are crappy no matter where they are

RacerX

6/21/2007, 06:48 AM

We've all hit a new low.

Road smack.

OUinFLA

6/21/2007, 07:03 AM

We've all hit a new low.

Road smack.

Baja, make note, please, in the official SF.com "Smack Attack" listing.

RacerX

6/21/2007, 08:57 AM

and by new low I mean "except for posting porn of your spouse".

royalfan5

6/21/2007, 09:16 AM

Dear Royal,

Have you driven the non toll I-35 in Kansas?

Zowee!
No, because I always take 77 or 15 South to my most common destinations in Kansas. Those two roads are fantastic and so is 81.

BlondeSoonerGirl

6/21/2007, 09:21 AM

and by new low I mean "except for posting porn of your spouse".

:kelvin:

BajaOklahoma

6/21/2007, 09:22 PM

Baja, make note, please, in the official SF.com "Smack Attack" listing.

Done!

I just want to know who the idiot was that designed the 121/I35E interchange. Why did you design it that way and where did you go to school? Obviously he didn't attned class very often.

mdklatt

6/21/2007, 09:38 PM

Yes Texas roads succ more than Oklahoma, especially with the night-time speed limits...really stupid....

Yes, heaven forbid they expect people to slow down at night when they can't see as far. Communist bastards.

I must admit that I have absolutely no idea how the speed limit effects the quality of the pavement. :confused:

mdklatt

6/21/2007, 09:41 PM

Those stupid freakin' *** night limits drive me crazy. It means that I always try to get out of the state and back to OK before it gets dark.

That's a good idea. You'll never get that 10 minutes back.

Vaevictis

6/21/2007, 09:49 PM

That's a good idea. You'll never get that 10 minutes back.

It adds up when you're driving from Houston.

CORNholio

6/22/2007, 03:23 AM

What? I found that stretch of road to be semi-crappy, and the truck stop bathrooms were covered in feces in Oklahoma City. It left me less than impressed. If it wasn't for the fact that I was trying to get from Wichita to Dallas for a 10:00A:M kickoff, I probably wouldn't have taken interstate at all, but I took it out of neccessity. I rarely ever driver interstates unless time constraints dictate it. Hell I drove to Eastern Colorado and back without taking any 4 lane roads. So I wouldn't worry about my mall queso consumption.

I've run across a few turd-burgled bathrooms in and around N. tejas myself. Seriously who does this?

As far as the roads Oklahoma roads are the succ it's true, thank you crooked state legislaturerers, What makes them appear even worse is that they are surrounded by kansas and tejas roads that are consistantly ranked as the nations best. Their level of succatude is thereby relative.

CORNholio

6/22/2007, 03:31 AM

Those stupid freakin' *** night limits drive me crazy. It means that I always try to get out of the state and back to OK before it gets dark.

It is a little confusing as to when the speed limit changes. Exactly how dark are we talking. I generally speed slightly less when the first person on the hi-way hits the headlights on. I therefore refrain from turning my headlights on until the last possible moment and remain at full throttle. So in case johnny law gets assertive I can say "it's not dark yet is it, well hell i hadn't even hit the highbeams yet."

bluedogok

6/23/2007, 10:42 PM

There are bad roads everywhere, I saw plenty of them on the trip to Indy last weekend. The amazing thing is it takes Texas so damn long to build anything. I remember when they were redoing I-35 from the Red River it took something like 15 years for them to complete it, there is a road here in Austin (Ben White) that has been under construction for the entire time my wife has lived here (15 years). We took 281 back yesterday after hitting Fort Worth (after taking I-35 from OKC) because of all the construction on I-35 from Fort Worth south. What I hate down here is the chip seal crap they use everywhere, it is like riding/driving on a cheese grater with no grip whatsoever.

When I lived in Dallas (91-93, moved back to OKC) I found it to be a place where all the people from "back east" headed to LA just gave up and stopped there. It is a flash and trash capitol, most of the people that I met there fit the category. I had a chance to move back in 2004 and decided after working up there a month that I had no desire to move back. It does have some weird liquor laws with the voting district option just complicates things, I don't think that system exists anywhere else in Texas, Austin is in a completely wet county.

phead903

6/24/2007, 04:36 PM

Well, I just had a great weekend in Dallas (and Georgia)...Cantina Laredo on Friday night, Sambucca on Saturday night with a kick-*** band and a beautiful woman in a fantastic little black dress...:hot: :hot:

I plan on going back....:D

jk the sooner fan

6/24/2007, 04:48 PM

my wife's company had their christmas party at Sambucca two years ago, thats a really nice place

TexasLidig8r

6/25/2007, 08:44 AM