13% of Vermontites want out of the Union

[BU BEAR]

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/connecticut/ny-bc-ct--vermontsecession0602jun02,0,6671063.story?coll=ny-region-apconnecticut

I say we let them go. The South was worth fighting over. Vermont?? Not so much.

[OUDoc]

But I like Maple syrup.

[crawfish]

I say we nuke the bastards.

[StoopTroup]

They are all nuts soaked in maple syrup....


"It doesn't make economic sense, it doesn't make political sense, it doesn't make historical sense. Other than that, it's a good idea," said Paul Gillies, a lawyer and Vermont historian.

[royalfan5]

I say we trade them straight up for Nova Scotia.

[BU BEAR]

But I like Maple syrup.


They can still export.

[King Crimson]

They are all nuts soaked in maple syrup....

do they have those kind of clubs there? i thought that was just Vegas and Windsor, Ontario?

[SicEmBaylor]

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/connecticut/ny-bc-ct--vermontsecession0602jun02,0,6671063.story?coll=ny-region-apconnecticut

I say we let them go. The South was worth fighting over. Vermont?? Not so much.

Vermont ought to have a right to leave the Union if they so wish. If the citizens of the state determine that continuing their association with these United States no longer serves their best interests then they should have the right to freely leave that compact which they freely entered into in the first place. That goes for Vermont and any other state. I'm just glad to see the citizens of Vermont being proactive in proclaiming that power which they inherently reserve.

[King Crimson]

Vermont ought to have a right to leave the Union if they so wish. If the citizens of the state determine that continuing their association with these United States no longer serves their best interests then they should have the right to freely leave that compact which they freely entered into in the first place. That goes for Vermont and any other state. I'm just glad to see the citizens of Vermont being proactive in proclaiming that power which they inherently reserve.

i totally agree, sic em.

[StoopTroup]

Can the other states decide to just oust Vermont from the Union?

You know...maybe keep them out for 10 years or so...

We could put up a fence to keep them inside their Country...if any of them want to then leave Vermont the Head of the Household could go back to Vermont and apply for Citizenship and re-enter after all the others who have applied for citizenship learn English and pay their fines....

:pop:

[OUDoc]

They'd be over-run with feral Teddy Bears and old maple syrup containers in under 5 years.

[Petro-Sooner]

I say we trade them straight up for Nova Scotia.

Those in NS are french canadians. Weird people. There mouth and head seperate when they talk. No thank you.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Vermont ought to have a right to leave the Union if they so wish. If the citizens of the state determine that continuing their association with these United States no longer serves their best interests then they should have the right to freely leave that compact which they freely entered into in the first place. That goes for Vermont and any other state. I'm just glad to see the citizens of Vermont being proactive in proclaiming that power which they inherently reserve. I think they have WMD's. They should be watched closely.

[bri]

So, 13% equals OMFG EVERYONE IN VERMONT WANTS TO LEAVE THE UNION HOORAY LONG LIVE STATES RIGHTS YAYZORS!!!?

Once again, Baylor's math department leaves so much to be desired.

[85Sooner]

Seriously there are alot of folks feeling like the government is not for or of the people the way it is supposed to be and alot of groups are popping up saying the same thing. I say yell it from the rooftops and get these representatives attention.

[JohnnyMack]

I wonder what percent of Washingtonians or Floridians would defect? Or Illinoiseians or Michiganders or Arkansians?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I betcha you could get a pretty high interest in secession from Utah.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Wow, somebody negged me for post #13... huh? I guess I'll have to take it back about Vermont having WMD'S. Sorry to offend whomever thinks that's a bad thing to say.

[King Crimson]

Wow, somebody negged me for post #13... huh? I guess I'll have to take it back about Vermont having WMD'S. Sorry to offend whomever thinks that's a bad thing to say.

that sucks. i thought that was kinda funny (yer post).

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

that sucks. i thought that was kinda funny (yer post).Humor WAS the intent.

[BU BEAR]

So, 13% equals OMFG EVERYONE IN VERMONT WANTS TO LEAVE THE UNION HOORAY LONG LIVE STATES RIGHTS YAYZORS!!!?

Once again, Baylor's math department leaves so much to be desired.

Bri=Captain Strawman

[King Crimson]

Seriously there are alot of folks feeling like the government is not for or of the people the way it is supposed to be and alot of groups are popping up saying the same thing. I say yell it from the rooftops and get these representatives attention.

!!!.

now, this also where for strategic reasons "democracy" and "constitutional republic" get used as inter-changeable.....see Bush's statement about Russia....it's always for strategic reasons. see the "Republic" argument used whenever "civil liberties" are at stake.

they are not the same.

[King Crimson]

Humor WAS the intent.

i know that. don't be pair'noid.

[BU BEAR]

Rush, it is just Mike Rich being the lib he is.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

i know that. don't be pair'noid.I know you know that, but what a surprise to see a neg for saying THAT. When I criticize socialism and its companion activities, I'm not surprised to see that a lib has negged, but the WMD thing was a blindsider.

[King Crimson]

Rush, it is just Mike Rich being the lib he is.

i seriously doubt that Mike Rich did it.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

i seriously doubt that Mike Rich did it.I think for Mike to do it, he has to be at a loss for words.........Uh huh.

[VeeJay]

Two things:

1. When Fox News latches on to this, people will listen up. 'Coz we all know Fox News is into Subliminal Mind Control with those hot babes on "Fox and Friends" and Bill O'Reilly yelling and spitting at people. They've also invented a little known device that will freeze lock the nobs on people's TV sets. The channel can not be changed.

2. Throw out Wal-Mart from Vermont and all will be OK.

[John Kochtoston]

Reminds me of an editorial some years back in the Tulsa World, discussing the pros and cons of Tulsa (and NE Oklahoma) seceding from Oklahoma nad joining up with Kansas. Thought the intent was not serious, it was to point out that Tulsa, historically at least, has been very different politically and socially from most of Oklahoma. I'll try to find it, but it was an interesting read.

[royalfan5]

Reminds me of an editorial some years back in the Tulsa World, discussing the pros and cons of Tulsa (and NE Oklahoma) seceding from Oklahoma nad joining up with Kansas. Thought the intent was not serious, it was to point out that Tulsa, historically at least, has been very different politically and socially from most of Oklahoma. I'll try to find it, but it was an interesting read.
Western Nebraska periodically does the same thing with the concept of Wyobraska because they feel that the eastern part of the state is too dominant.

[King Crimson]

southern Colorado versus the Denver/Boulder 1-70 corridor as well. it's impossible, but think about this:

in the 1992 Dem Primary Jerry Brown won the state of Colorado by visiting Denver, Boulder, and Aspen in a 4 day period.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

For your enjoyment:
13% of Vermontites want ... 6/5/2007 05:41 PM wheeeeee...
13% of Vermontites want ... 6/5/2007 04:39 PM MOMMY, MAKE THE INTERNET STOP BEING MEAN TO ME!!!
13% of Vermontites want ... 6/5/2007 04:24 PM So, since you're not a sponsor and can't actually SEE who negs you, how is it that you can just KNOW in your heart of hearts that it's a "lib"? I think you've just given yourself a clue as to why you glow bright red while others of your ilk don't.
13% of Vermontites want ... 6/5/2007 04:21 PM boo-hoo

[HskrGrl]

Western Nebraska periodically does the same thing with the concept of Wyobraska because they feel that the eastern part of the state is too dominant.

Up until 5 years ago when I first drove to Ogallala I thought Nebraska ended at Kearney. Who knew there was another 300 miles of Nebraska to the west! :eek:

[royalfan5]

Up until 5 years ago when I first drove to Ogallala I thought Nebraska ended at Kearney. Who knew there was another 300 miles of Nebraska to the west! :eek:
It's still another two hours to Scoblo from there.

[TheUnnamedSooner]

I say we nuke the bastards.

LOL - You're nuking all bastards today?

[Frozen Sooner]

i seriously doubt that Mike Rich did it.

Mike Rich has been at the movies from about 10:45 to just a few minutes ago.

And c'mon, Bill-you know me well enough to know that I'm NEVER at a loss for words. :D

[TUSooner]

Seriously there are alot of folks feeling like the government is not for or of the people the way it is supposed to be and alot of groups are popping up saying the same thing. I say yell it from the rooftops and get these representatives attention.
And they are not all leftists, either.

[Frozen Sooner]

Yep. There's a big group of libertarians that either want to move to New Hampshire or Alaska to tip the scales for secession.

Heck, there's a pretty sizeable minority up here that'd vote for secession tomorrow as is.

[C&CDean]

**** Vermont. Commie bastards gave us the dessert of homos and earth worshippers - Ben & Jerry's. Cherry Garcia this, mother****ers.

[royalfan5]

Yep. There's a big group of libertarians that either want to move to New Hampshire or Alaska to tip the scales for secession.

Heck, there's a pretty sizeable minority up here that'd vote for secession tomorrow as is.
What is the average Alaskan successionists beef with the Union?

[olevetonahill]

Didnt the Dayum Yankees Fight a War . To tell the Rebs . Yall caint do that ?
Yankey Go home , make up ur mind .:confused:

[SicEmBaylor]

So, 13% equals OMFG EVERYONE IN VERMONT WANTS TO LEAVE THE UNION HOORAY LONG LIVE STATES RIGHTS YAYZORS!!!?

Once again, Baylor's math department leaves so much to be desired.
How about sparing me the bull**** Bri? Read what the hell it is that I wrote. Nobody said everyone in Vermont wants to leave the Union; I certainly didn't. I simply stated that the citizens of a state (presumably the overwhelming majority of people) ought to be able to choose their own political destiny and government.

But your slam against Baylor's math department was real witty.

[royalfan5]

How about sparing me the bull**** Bri? Read what the hell it is that I wrote. Nobody said everyone in Vermont wants to leave the Union; I certainly didn't. I simply stated that the citizens of a state (presumably the overwhelming majority of people) ought to be able to choose their own political destiny and government.

But your slam against Baylor's math department was real witty.
Oh come on, everyone know that Baptists run into trouble once the count past seventeen. The don't believe in either 18 or 22.

[Frozen Sooner]

What is the average Alaskan successionists beef with the Union?

That the federal government owns approximately 90% of the land up here, yet refuses to spend adequate funds on infrastructure (which is one of the things that Ted Stevens has used so successfully in getting federal dollars up here.)

That we're not allowed to sell our oil to the highest bidder (though I believe that's been repealed.)

That they're one of those crazy-assed "Sovereign Citizen" people.

That the feds won't allow you to smoke weed.

That the feds won't respect a right to privacy guaranteed in our state constitution.

Taxes.

Your usual grab-bag of crazy right and left stuff along with a small leavening of not-so-crazy right and left stuff that gets overblown.

Me, I think that being part of the Union is a large net positive.

[royalfan5]

That the federal government owns approximately 90% of the land up here, yet refuses to spend adequate funds on infrastructure (which is one of the things that Ted Stevens has used so successfully in getting federal dollars up here.)

That we're not allowed to sell our oil to the highest bidder (though I believe that's been repealed.)

That they're one of those crazy-assed "Sovereign Citizen" people.

That the feds won't allow you to smoke weed.

That the feds won't respect a right to privacy guaranteed in our state constitution.

Taxes.

Your usual grab-bag of crazy right and left stuff along with a small leavening of not-so-crazy right and left stuff that gets overblown.

Me, I think that being part of the Union is a large net positive.

At the very least it's got to better than being a Canadian.

[Frozen Sooner]

At the very least it's got to better than being a Canadian.

Well, yeah, that goes without saying.

The Canadians right next door were clamoring pretty hard to join the Union up until a few years ago, in fact. For all I know, they still are. They're pretty irritated about the fact that a bunch of their natural resource wealth gets sent to Quebec and the Maritimes.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Mike Rich has been at the movies from about 10:45 to just a few minutes ago.

And c'mon, Bill-you know me well enough to know that I'm NEVER at a loss for words. :DFergodsakes, you guys must think I'm serious all the time.

[olevetonahill]

That the federal government owns approximately 90% of the land up here, yet refuses to spend adequate funds on infrastructure (which is one of the things that Ted Stevens has used so successfully in getting federal dollars up here.)

That we're not allowed to sell our oil to the highest bidder (though I believe that's been repealed.)

That they're one of those crazy-assed "Sovereign Citizen" people.

That the feds won't allow you to smoke weed.

That the feds won't respect a right to privacy guaranteed in our state constitution.

Taxes.

Your usual grab-bag of crazy right and left stuff along with a small leavening of not-so-crazy right and left stuff that gets overblown.

Me, I think that being part of the Union is a large net positive.
Sounds Like Yall need to have a " Tea Party ":pop:

[royalfan5]

Well, yeah, that goes without saying.

The Canadians right next door were clamoring pretty hard to join the Union up until a few years ago, in fact. For all I know, they still are. They're pretty irritated about the fact that a bunch of their natural resource wealth gets sent to Quebec and the Maritimes.
I'd be all for taking Manitoba, Saskatechwan, and Alberta. Screw the British Columbians though. Like we need more quasi-hippies.

[sooneron]

I'd be all for taking Manitoba, Saskatechwan, and Alberta. Screw the British Columbians though. Like we need more quasi-hippies.
I guess you haven't skied Whistler.

[sooneron]

Those in NS are french canadians. Weird people. There mouth and head seperate when they talk. No thank you.
Sadly, this is not the least enlightened post in this thread. Around 16% of those in NS are French speaking.:rolleyes:

[OUinFLA]

We could put up a fence to keep them inside their Country...if any of them want to then leave Vermont the Head of the Household could go back to Vermont and apply for Citizenship and re-enter after all the others who have applied for citizenship learn English and pay their fines....

:pop:

yep, that idea is working so well with Mexico, we should expand the practice with Vermont.

[royalfan5]

I guess you haven't skied Whistler.
But you wouldn't get the exchange rate benefits if we took them over. Assuming the U.S. Dollar stays stronger. It can be a win win for everybody.

[sooneron]

Dude, Vancouver is ****ing dos mas cool.

[olevetonahill]

I guess you haven't skied Whistler.
My Bad
I thot you said Wister:eek:

[royalfan5]

Dude, Vancouver is ****ing dos mas cool.
and Saskatoon isn't?

[sooneron]

and Saskatoon isn't?
Please tell me you're being silly.

[royalfan5]

Please tell me you're being silly.
of course I am. Saskatoon is no Winnipeg.

[sooneron]

The only place from that central area that I'd want is Lake Louise/Banff.

[royalfan5]

The only place from that central area that I'd want is Lake Louise/Banff.
What you don't like acres upon acres of wheat?

[sooneron]

What you don't like acres upon acres of wheat?
Can we make it switchgrass? and no.

[royalfan5]

Can we make it switchgrass? and no.
agree to disagree then

[sooneron]

done and I really don't want to have to go another country just to ski 4 hours from my door.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Saskatoon is no Winnipeg.You betcher walleyes, eh?

[picasso]

I've never been to Vermont but if I ever go I'm going to fart somewhere in public.

[StoopTroup]

I've always wanted to go there as the leaves turn in the fall...

Now...not so much...