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Okla-homey
6/5/2007, 06:16 AM
June 5, 1967 : Six-Day War begins

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40 years ago today, Israel responds to an ominous build-up of Arab forces along its borders by launching simultaneous attacks against Egypt and Syria. Jordan subsequently entered the fray, but the Arab coalition was no match for Israel's superbly trained armed forces who fought with grim determination to ensure the survival of the young nation.

The war began because Egyptian President Gamal Nasser had become an international pan-Arab leader who pressed hard for the destruction of Israel.

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Nasser's goal of destroying Israel was a unifying notion around which international Arab support coalesced and made him the equivalent of an international rock star. To this end, Arab forces were deployed to the Israeli frontier and were poised to begin their assault. Tiny Israel was confronted by an international Arab force of some 465,000 troops, over 2,880 tanks and 810 aircraft.

Instead of waiting for the Egyptians and her allies to pull the trigger, Israel decided to sieze the intitiative and strike first. Within the war's first two hours, the IDAF completely destroyed the combined air forces of Egypt, Syria and Jordan by striking every Arab air force base in the region and leaving every Soviet supplied Arab aircraft a smoking hulk. This was done to immediately achieve air supremacy, thus insuring Israeli armor would not have to sweat air attack as it barrelled into enemy forces and to ensure Isreali cities would not be bombed.

In six days of fighting, Israel enjoyed phenomenal success as it conquered and occupied the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula of Egypt, the Golan Heights of Syria, and the West Bank and Arab sector of East Jerusalem, both previously under Jordanian rule. The Arab coventional forces arrayed against Israel almost literally melted away when exposed to Israeli fire and steel.

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The Egyptian Front

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The Jordanian Front

By the time the United Nations cease-fire took effect on June 11, Israel had more than doubled its size. The true fruits of victory came in claiming the Old City of Jerusalem from Jordan. Many wept while bent in prayer at the Western Wall of the Second Temple.

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Israeli paratroopers at the wall of the Second Temple

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No one, not even the Israeli command, expected the IDF to be capable of swiftly moving through a quarter million Egyptian troops and Egypt's thousands of tanks to cross the Sinai peninsula and achieve positions as far west as the Suez Canal

The U.N. Security Council called for a withdrawal from all the occupied regions, but Israel declined, permanently annexing East Jerusalem and setting up military administrations in the occupied territories. Israel let it be known that Gaza, the West Bank, the Golan Heights, and the Sinai would be returned in exchange for Arab recognition of the right of Israel to exist and guarantees against future attack.

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Arab leaders, stinging from their defeat, met in August in Khartoum in Sudan to discuss the future of the Middle East. They decided upon a policy of no peace, no negotiations, and no recognition of Israel, and made plans to defend zealously the rights of Palestinian Arabs in the occupied territories.

Egypt, however, would eventually negotiate and make peace with Israel, and in 1982 the Sinai Peninsula was returned to Egypt in exchange for full diplomatic recognition of Israel.

Egypt and Jordan later gave up their respective claims to the Gaza Strip and the West Bank to the Palestinians, who opened "land for peace" talks with Israel beginning in the 1990s. A permanent Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement remains elusive, as does an agreement with Syria to return the Golan Heights.

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Too good not to include

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Xstnlsooner
6/5/2007, 07:51 AM
There was a great two hour documentary last night on PBS about
the Six Day War. Those Arabs are such retards, overestimating
themselves and underestimating Israel.

Wonder how long till the next war between them??
Vaevictis
6/5/2007, 07:55 AM
Wonder how long till the next war between them??

Wait, do you actually think it ever stopped?

IMO, the Arabs just changed strategy. I think they pretty much just decided to let the Palestinians smolder next to them for a couple of generations and bleed them.
toast
6/5/2007, 08:12 AM
I like 20th Century Battlefields on the military channel, they had an episode on the 1973 Israel/Egypt war six years later. They discuss the 6 day war as well.

Here's a link to the website, there are clips under "Watch Video":

http://military.discovery.com/convergence/20cbattles/20cbattles.html
OklahomaTuba
6/5/2007, 08:43 AM
God said it best, don't **** with my peeps.
LoyalFan
6/5/2007, 08:52 AM
Another great job, Homey.
Now, how about a "History Lesson" on the event that preceded Israel's sneak attack on the Egyptians and other Arab states (See: Pearl Harbor)? I mean, of course, the attack the IAF rat bastadges made on USS Liberty.
They killed many US sailors, all for fear they'd be ratted out, and then denied the whole thing until recent times. For that alone, I wish the Egyptians and their allies had kicked their butts, not actually eliminating Israel, no way, but at least fighting them to standstill followed by a retreat.
I'll NEVAR forgive them. No true American should.

LF
OklahomaTuba
6/5/2007, 08:56 AM
If Egypt had kicked their butts, there would be no Israel, or many Jews left for that matter.

And Israel said it was a mistake. Even the US has made mistakes like this is the past. Bad **** happens in war.
LoyalFan
6/5/2007, 09:06 AM
If Egypt had kicked their butts, there would be no Israel, or many Jews left for that matter.

And Israel said it was a mistake. Even the US has made mistakes like this is the past. Bad **** happens in war.


O(K)T,

Reread. I said "...not actually eliminating Israel..."
"Mistake" my arse! A few years ago some retired IAF types admitted they knew EXACTLY what ship they were targeting. The crew of USS Liberty even spread a huge Stars and Stripes on deck after the first attack...to no avail. Don't swallow the Kool-Aid, OKT.
The Israelis "thought" that Liberty "might" report that the Israelis had started the whole affair and that might give the other side a better shot at defending themselves. If you truly think the mass murder of Americans was a "mistake" and a case of misidentification of the ship then you need to read "Conspiracy Of Silence".

LF
Okla-homey
6/5/2007, 09:35 AM
O(K)T,

Reread. I said "...not actually eliminating Israel..."
"Mistake" my arse! A few years ago some retired IAF types admitted they knew EXACTLY what ship they were targeting. The crew of USS Liberty even spread a huge Stars and Stripes on deck after the first attack...to no avail. Don't swallow the Kool-Aid, OKT.
The Israelis "thought" that Liberty "might" report that the Israelis had started the whole affair and that might give the other side a better shot at defending themselves. If you truly think the mass murder of Americans was a "mistake" and a case of misidentification of the ship then you need to read "Conspiracy Of Silence".

LF

Maybe it was pay-back for US refusal under FDR to allow ships from Europe filled with Jewish refugees fleeing Hitler to dock in any US port.
TUSooner
6/5/2007, 09:42 AM
Another great job, Homey.
Now, how about a "History Lesson" on the event that preceded Israel's sneak attack on the Egyptians and other Arab states (See: Pearl Harbor)? I mean, of course, the attack the IAF rat bastadges made on USS Liberty.
They killed many US sailors, all for fear they'd be ratted out, and then denied the whole thing until recent times. For that alone, I wish the Egyptians and their allies had kicked their butts, not actually eliminating Israel, no way, but at least fighting them to standstill followed by a retreat.
I'll NEVAR forgive them. No true American should.

LF
OK, let's base our entire foreign policy on any random single incident we choose. That way we are justified in nuking everybody who has ever offended us or done us wrong, which would mean EVERYBODY, probably including ourselves. In other words, your post is :twinkies: (in a bad way).
Okla-homey
6/5/2007, 10:06 AM
OK, let's base our entire foreign policy on any random single incident we choose. That way we are justified in nuking everybody who has ever offended us or done us wrong, which would mean EVERYBODY, probably including ourselves. In other words, your post is :twinkies: (in a bad way).

Touche. That would be like hating the UK because they burned Washington DC in 1814.;)
OklahomaTuba
6/5/2007, 11:42 AM
O(K)T,

Reread. I said "...not actually eliminating Israel..."
"Mistake" my arse! A few years ago some retired IAF types admitted they knew EXACTLY what ship they were targeting. The crew of USS Liberty even spread a huge Stars and Stripes on deck after the first attack...to no avail. Don't swallow the Kool-Aid, OKT.
The Israelis "thought" that Liberty "might" report that the Israelis had started the whole affair and that might give the other side a better shot at defending themselves. If you truly think the mass murder of Americans was a "mistake" and a case of misidentification of the ship then you need to read "Conspiracy Of Silence".

LF

Sounds like an interesting book!
BU BEAR
6/5/2007, 11:59 AM
If you are interested, probably the best book on this subject is "Six Days of War" by Michael Oren. It is meticulously researched and documented with interviews, material and perspectives from all involved parties.

The reunification of Jerusalem, June 7, 1967:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpS8z8pzQgs

חי עם ישראל (Chai Am Israel/Live, People of Israel)
TUSooner
6/5/2007, 01:21 PM
Touche. That would be like hating the UK because they burned Washington DC in 1814.;)
Kazacktally.
There's probably someone in the USA who feels just that way. :D
royalfan5
6/5/2007, 01:30 PM
Kazacktally.
There's probably someone in the USA who feels just that way. :D
5 bucks on Sic'em feeling that way.
Vaevictis
6/5/2007, 04:31 PM
If Egypt had kicked their butts, there would be no Israel, or many Jews left for that matter.

Pfft. More Jews live in the Diaspora than in Israel.

Israel is a nice consolation prize for the horrors suffered c. WWII, but hardly necessary to the survival of the Jewish people.
BU BEAR
6/5/2007, 04:41 PM
Pfft. More Jews live in the Diaspora than in Israel.

Israel is a nice consolation prize for the horrors suffered c. WWII, but hardly necessary to the survival of the Jewish people.

While WWII may have expedited the formal founding of the state of Israel, the modern Zionist movement had begun in the 1800s and plans had already been established by League of Nations to create a Jewish homeland in the middle east.

Israel was carved out of the British Mandate of Palestine. Lebanon, which was intended to be a Christian homeland in the middle east, was carved out of the French mandate of Syria. Lebanon was a Christian majority country until the civil war in the late 70s/80s led to the slaughter and expulsion of many Arab Christians from Lebanon.
Vaevictis
6/5/2007, 04:48 PM
While WWII may have expedited the formal founding of the state of Israel, the modern Zionist movement had begun in the 1800s and plans had already been established by League of Nations to create a Jewish homeland in the middle east.

... so?

Like I said, Israel is a nice consolation prize. While the colonial powers were talking about it pre-WWII, who knows if they'd have ever gotten around to it. The colonial powers were quite famous for promising something they never intended to deliver, or promising something they intended to deliver and changing their minds at a later date.

The Holocaust lit a fire under people's butts and ensured it happened.

And yeah, I know all about the Zionists. They're just one more example to the effect that it ain't Islam that's really the problem wrt terrorism.

EDIT: And totally off topic. Since I don't like to crap in the Good Morning threads, I think I'll end it here.
BU BEAR
6/5/2007, 04:53 PM
Like I said, Israel is a nice consolation prize.

Over 6 million dead and small plot of land is what you call a "consolation prize". Pretty poor choice of words.




And yeah, I know all about the Zionists. They're just one more example to the effect that it ain't Islam that's really the problem wrt terrorism.

I am sorry I missed the part where Jewish people highjacked planes and ran them into buildings. I missed the part where their children are indoctrinated so that their highest aspiration is to be a murderer and die for "allah". I must have missed the part where the "zionists" send their teenagers to blow themselves up in the middle of busy pizza shops, discotheques and at funerals.

Islam really is the problem. The followers of the pedophile prophet, Muhammed, are to blame for their own actions.
OklahomaTuba
6/5/2007, 05:27 PM
I am sorry I missed the part where Jewish people highjacked planes and ran them into buildings. I missed the part where their children are indoctrinated so that their highest aspiration is to be a murderer and die for "allah". I must have missed the part where the "zionists" send their teenagers to themselves up in the middle of busy pizza shops, discotheques and at funerals.

Islam really is the problem. The followers of the pedophile prophet, Muhammed, are to blame for their own actions.

Typical "head in the sand" thinking, blame the Joos for everything. The Germans were pretty good at that, and look what happened. Its really no surprise I guess.

I wonder if those evil zionists are to blame for the terrorist attacks in Thailand right now? I think someone gets killed just about everyday these days.
opksooner
6/5/2007, 06:11 PM
Typical "head in the sand" thinking, blame the Joos for everything. The Germans were pretty good at that, and look what happened. Its really no surprise I guess.

I wonder if those evil zionists are to blame for the terrorist attacks in Thailand right now? I think someone gets killed just about everyday these days.

Err...uh......I think you mis-read BU BEAR's post.
Jerk
6/5/2007, 10:08 PM
I'm going to have to save this and read it when I have time.

I think it's real interesting that the US changed military tactics after observing the 6 day war.

From what I understand, they have been rather conservative about such things but have recently made alot of changes because of what's going on in Iraq. They're getting lighter and more mobile, and not the same old Army that was prepared to meet the Soviets at the Fulda Gap.