Okay, this ethanol stuff

[soonerboomer93]

is going too far now (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18926019/?GT1=9951)

[olevetonahill]

I have My OWN lil Ethanol plant :D

[yermom]

:eek:

[olevetonahill]

:eek:
:D :D :D :D :D

[goingoneight]

Oh ****! My car just took off for Drunkytown!!! :eek:

[yermom]

I have My OWN lil Ethanol plant :D

i wonder how hard that would actually be at home... what other junk does it need to run on Ethanol?

[SoonerInKCMO]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!! :eek:


I better stock up on the Tres Generaciones.

[royalfan5]

Don't say I didn't warn you stuff like this was going to happen.

[IronSooner]

Does this mean we're going to see an increase in the illegal immigration of corn now?

[royalfan5]

Does this mean we're going to see an increase in the illegal immigration of corn now?
No, Mexico will still be a major importer of United States corn. But we are driving up their food prices, and our beer prices and meet prices as well.

[SoonerInKCMO]

Don't say I didn't warn you stuff like this was going to happen.

Yep.

But wait - it gets worse. :eek:

From the NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/30/business/worldbusiness/30biofuels.html?em&ex=1180670400&en=c0fa44d35fa55db4&ei=5087%0A)


In Europe, the rapid conversion of fields that once grew wheat or barley to biofuel crops like rapeseed is already leading to shortages of the ingredients for making pasta and brewing beer, suppliers say. That could translate into higher prices in supermarkets.

[royalfan5]

Yep.

But wait - it gets worse. :eek:

From the NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/30/business/worldbusiness/30biofuels.html?em&ex=1180670400&en=c0fa44d35fa55db4&ei=5087%0A)
The upside is that South America and Sub-Saharan Africa have a lot of potential to pick up some of the slack. Especially if the EU and US would quit dicking around with subsidies.

[mdklatt]

Corn-based ethanol is a huge boondoggle. By most accounting, it requires more energy to produce and distribute then it actually delivers.

Maybe Dick Cheney worked for ADM before he worked for Halliburton.... :texan:

[royalfan5]

Corn-based ethanol is a huge boondoggle. By most accounting, it requires more energy to produce and distribute then it actually delivers.

Maybe Dick Cheney worked for ADM before he worked for Halliburton.... :texan:
By most accounting you mean it produces 1.3 to 1 more energy. I've seen the Berkley study that claims it produces less energy. That study is seriously flawed, because it assumes that we are still producing corn at the same level and efficiency we did in 1975. That is a long way from the truth. That doesn't make it less of a boondoggle, but it is producing more energy than it consumes. It's just ****ing up everything else associated with agriculture, and choking off biodiesel.