This just in...

[Okla-homey]

Pfizer is pushing hard (no pun intended) for FDA approval of Viagra sales OTC.:eek:

[VeeJay]

So, would now be a good time to buy some shares of Pfizer?

[Frozen Sooner]

Nice. GSK has Alli go OTC in about a month. The entire pharm sector should have a nice uptick in Q3.

[Okla-homey]

When I told Mrs. Homey about this, she responded, "Great. Just what the world needs...about a zillion more hard d---s."

That woman cracks me up.;)

[MamaMia]

Oh good Lord, old people are going to be having sex all over the place now. :rolleyes: Hmmm....just like back in the old days. :O

[jk the sooner fan]

i'm not sure why they arent already OTC...

[Okla-homey]

I find it kinda silly that "the pill" isn't available OTC myself.

[Frozen Sooner]

I find it kinda silly that "the pill" isn't available OTC myself.

Mainly because it's pretty dangerous if not used as prescribed.

[GottaHavePride]

Really, enzyte is just an herbal supplement with better marketing people. It's not like there's any kind of fancy pharmaceuticals in it anyway. I think it's mostly ginseng.

[Okla-homey]

Mainly because it's pretty dangerous if not used as prescribed.

Couldn't a feller hurt himself with Viagra?

[jk the sooner fan]

Couldn't a feller hurt himself with Viagra?

himself? or his partner?

i think the pill does more to a womans innards than a viagra could ever do to a man's outtard.....

doesnt it effect how they ovulate and such? would seem to me that it should be prescription

[Frozen Sooner]

Couldn't a feller hurt himself with Viagra?

Probably. He could wind up with priapism pretty easily. However, a woman with birth control could mess up her endocrine system pretty badly. Also, birth control pills could be used as aborto-facients. That's what RU-486 is. No way in hell this administration (or really any other probably) would let the FDA let that on the market OTC.

[royalfan5]

himself? or his partner?

i think the pill does more to a womans innards than a viagra could ever do to a man's outtard.....

doesnt it effect how they ovulate and such? would seem to me that it should be prescription
I think Viagra was developed as a heart medicine originally, and has side effects related to that on some users.

[MamaMia]

There are OTC birth control things; just not pills, unless you count aspirin.

[leavingthezoo]

a dime works just as well as aspirin and you can spend it later.

[jk the sooner fan]

aspirin works fine, just have the girl hold it between her knees

[Frozen Sooner]

My face=the most effective birth control of all time.

:(

I just realized there's a plethora of ways to take that.

[Widescreen]

If it goes OTC, half my spam will probably stop. Score!

[Okla-homey]

Probably. He could wind up with priapism pretty easily. However, a woman with birth control could mess up her endocrine system pretty badly. Also, birth control pills could be used as aborto-facients. That's what RU-486 is. No way in hell this administration (or really any other probably) would let the FDA let that on the market OTC.

I'm told some gals have been known to take several "pills" at once when they miss a period to the same effect as RU-486. Let's face it, birth control pills ain't exactly hard to get. The health department dispenses them free to women. I say just cut out the middle man and let women buy them w/o a Rx.

[olevetonahill]

Couldn't a feller hurt himself with Viagra?
Havnt Yet , But Ive sure had fun trying .:D

[goingoneight]

I find it kinda silly that "the pill" isn't available OTC myself.


Think about it... when Tylenol or Excedrin or whatever says "take two..." the average American decides to focus on the part that says "take no more than 6 doses per 24 hours..."

AA: "Hey, I'll just take 12 of these puppies right now and that'll do the trick!"

... or you have the stubborn American who believes the docs have it all wrong and "that don't work for me!!! I'll take what works for me!!!" Thus, a dozen rednecks per day enter the ER with erections that have out-lasted the 36-hour "call your doctor" margin. NTM, it's not too good on people wwith heart conditions to keep using the gravity pill.

[olevetonahill]

Eight
If a man cant get it up with a veegra and a pump hes Dead anyway .:D

[goingoneight]

Well, yeah... but you know what I'm saying. Pill heads generally read the label or listen to the doc and think "more."

[Scott D]

I find it kinda silly that "the pill" isn't available OTC myself.

actually there is one version that is available OTC. However, they are kept in the pharmacy and you have to bring one of the tags back to the pharmacist, just like with the cold meds.

I should probably add that it's not exactly "the pill" but it's similar except it's a bit more powerful than a single pill alone. It being "Plan B".

[Suerreal]

Nice. GSK has Alli go OTC in about a month. The entire pharm sector should have a nice uptick in Q3.

Might want to hold off on buying GSK stock right now.

One of their block-buster drugs, Avandia, for type 2 diabetes, is now suspected of raising heart attack risk by 43%. Given the baseline risk for heart attacks in people with type 2 diabetes, we're talking a whole lot of heart attacks if this holds up to further scrutiny.

[Frozen Sooner]

D'oh! Thanks for the tidbit.

The vast majority of my money is in oversea midcaps anyhow. I don't see the dollar's slide ending anytime REAL soon.

[royalfan5]

D'oh! Thanks for the tidbit.

The vast majority of my money is in oversea midcaps anyhow. I don't see the dollar's slide ending anytime REAL soon.
It better not, I just shorted the dollar for my trading class today.

[Frozen Sooner]

It better not, I just shorted the dollar for my trading class today.

Pretty simple math. We've got a fiat currency, an expensive war, and fairly level tax revenues. Shorting the dollar right now is a good move.

[StoopTroup]

Careful buying that Phizer stock just yet...you don't want to get boned.

[royalfan5]

Pretty simple math. We've got a fiat currency, an expensive war, and fairly level tax revenues. Shorting the dollar right now is a good move.
This reminds me, I need to start a thread on the gold standard one of these days.

[OklahomaRed]

If I had to guess, Pfizer is looking at going OTC since this is a popular marketing ploy used by big PhaRMA when one of their blockbuster products is losing it's patent (i.e. Prilosec). Actually, sildanafil can cause some serious issues if used excessively and if used by specific patient populations. After all, it is a powerful smooth muscle dilator, thus it's effect on relaxing the smooth muscle to allow blood flow to the effected area. People with heart problems, particularly people using nitrates for angina should not use sildanafil due to the potential to cause "death". Also, there are documented case reports or long term usage causing vision problems such as a permanent halo "hue" to vision. Sildanafil is also now marketed and sold under a second brand name for pulmonary hypertension.

My bet? I don't think it will go generic, but MONEY talks, BS walks.

:D

[Mjcpr]

After all, it is a powerful smooth muscle dilator, thus it's effect on relaxing the smooth muscle to allow blood flow to the effected area. People with heart problems, particularly people using nitrates for angina should not use sildanafil due to the potential to cause "death".

I hope Howzit reads this, he has a freakin' HUGE angina.

[Frozen Sooner]

This reminds me, I need to start a thread on the gold standard one of these days.

Go for it. Sounds like fun. You've surpassed me on econ stuff, so I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.

[royalfan5]

Go for it. Sounds like fun. You've surpassed me on econ stuff, so I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.
I'll try and do it after I finish my international currency quiz tonight.

[Scott D]

If I had to guess, Pfizer is looking at going OTC since this is a popular marketing ploy used by big PhaRMA when one of their blockbuster products is losing it's patent (i.e. Prilosec). Actually, sildanafil can cause some serious issues if used excessively and if used by specific patient populations. After all, it is a powerful smooth muscle dilator, thus it's effect on relaxing the smooth muscle to allow blood flow to the effected area. People with heart problems, particularly people using nitrates for angina should not use sildanafil due to the potential to cause "death". Also, there are documented case reports or long term usage causing vision problems such as a permanent halo "hue" to vision. Sildanafil is also now marketed and sold under a second brand name for pulmonary hypertension.

My bet? I don't think it will go generic, but MONEY talks, BS walks.

:D

It's only natural that there will be a generic alternative once the patent is up. However, I have a feeling that even as an OTC, Viagra will be one of those medications maintained behind the pharmacist counter in accordance with state laws for two reasons.

1. It's street value is at least on a par with Meth if not higher in some places (yes, young people are willing to pay whatever it takes to buy a few pills here and there of Viagra on the street.)
2. Because the government would be idiots to not continue to see that it's somewhat of a controlled substance.

I can think of a few pharmacies that I know of that keep Viagra now in their C-2 safes despite the barriers usually placed between the pharmacy and the potential customers. If anything OTC Viagra will be considered to be very akin to the OTC Plan B birth control.

[Dio]

Might want to hold off on buying GSK stock right now.

One of their block-buster drugs, Avandia, for type 2 diabetes, is now suspected of raising heart attack risk by 43%. Given the baseline risk for heart attacks in people with type 2 diabetes, we're talking a whole lot of heart attacks if this holds up to further scrutiny.

I know I'm not the only one here who read this "Diabeetus"

[Mjcpr]

I know I'm not the only one here who read this "Diabeetus"

Or the more technical term, "shugar diabeetus".

[Frozen Sooner]

I know I'm not the only one here who read this "Diabeetus"

Heh. Diabeetus cat.

[OklahomaRed]

Diabeetus cat in yo' medicin cabnet taking your Viagra! :eek: