Gov. Henry - Immigration Bill

[Turd_Ferguson]

My 1st thread by the way - This issue has seemed to have dropped off the radar screen over the last week or so. Isn't he due to sign or veto tomorrow?

TF

[Viking Kitten]

I was told action is due by today. Here's the bill tracker.

http://www.governor.state.ok.us/billtrack/index.php

[Petro-Sooner]

More like Gov. Sleepsalot.

[Tear Down This Wall]

Woo-hoo. More irrelevant immigration reform talk. Until the Feds do something, all of these other bills coming out of states and cities amount to little more than pis*sing in the wind.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Irrelevant or not, my question was why last week it was such a big issue with the local news channels and newsok.com(they had polls and all), but now there is no reporting to be found. Just found it interesting.

[yermom]

Woo-hoo. More irrelevant immigration reform talk. Until the Feds do something, all of these other bills coming out of states and cities amount to little more than pis*sing in the wind.

well, if states like California, Texas and Arizona did something...

maybe if it's hard to get along in OK they will stay in Texico

[picasso]

Woo-hoo. More irrelevant immigration reform talk. Until the Feds do something, all of these other bills coming out of states and cities amount to little more than pis*sing in the wind.
how so? I've read where if this bill passes it's going to save the state mucho money.
maybe we can try fixing our roads.

[yermom]

heh

[mikeelikee]

Governor Gump signed it! Woot!

[Soonerus]

Governor Gump signed it! Woot!

Henry is a good man...screw you...

[OklahomaTuba]

Yeah, glad he signed this bill. He has been a good gov. Thank GAWD we don't have a gov like the airhead bitch in Kansas.

[mikeelikee]

Henry is a good man...screw you...


A good Baptist man who habitually comes in late to work, and who signed into law gambling legislation that is devastating many Oklahoma families.

Back at ya, pal. :mad:

[OUstudent4life]

I just heard thunder and read where Tuba thought a Dem was doing a good job.

Coincidence? I think not.

:D:D:D

[OklahomaTuba]

Hey, I even vote for em sometimes. (Dear Lord, forgive me for that.)

[Soonerus]

A good Baptist man who habitually comes in late to work, and who signed into law gambling legislation that is devastating many Oklahoma families.

Back at ya, pal. :mad:

That generated millions of dollars of revenue for Oklahoma that the tribes could arguably have kept to themselves without the diplomatic work of the Henry administration...moron...

[mikeelikee]

That generated millions of dollars of revenue for Oklahoma that the tribes could arguably have kept to themselves without the diplomatic work of the Henry administration...moron...


Millions of dollars less than was projected before the compacts were executed. He also promised $300 million a year from his "education" lottery. We're getting less than half that.

He really gives a stemwinder of a speech, doesn't he? Yawn. But you go right on defending ol' Brad, the trial lawyers' best friend. And since you're given to throwing around ad hominem insults, I'll take my turn....liberal!

[Petro-Sooner]

I got a chuckle out of the fact that boran had a statement printed in teh OU paper saying that next years fees and tuition are going up cause there were not enough funds from the state. But governor, your lottery was going to solve all of the states education financial short falls. :rolleyes:

[frankensooner]

[Boren sitting on billions of dollars]We don't have enough money so we are going to rape the paying students again. [/Boren sitting on billions of dollars]

[RFH Shakes]

A good Baptist man who habitually comes in late to work, and who signed into law gambling legislation that is devastating many Oklahoma families.

Back at ya, pal. :mad:


I'm pretty sure he's not making them gamble away their money.

[mikeelikee]

I'm pretty sure he's not making them gamble away their money.


Making them gamble--no. ENABLING, absolutely!

[Turd_Ferguson]

Making them gamble--no. ENABLING, absolutely!
So basically, many Oklahoma family's are not smart enough to make the decision to gamble or not?

[mikeelikee]

So basically, many Oklahoma family's are not smart enough to make the decision to gamble or not?

Basically, yes. Just drive through the parking lot of one of the larger casinos (we've got three huge ones in Tulsa--Creek, Osage and Cherokee), and check out the license plates of the patrons. 90% Oklahomans.

We've made it easy for them to gamble their wages away. Aren't we great?

[Cam]

Basically, yes. Just drive through the parking lot of one of the larger casinos (we've got three huge ones in Tulsa--Creek, Osage and Cherokee), and check out the license plates of the patrons. 90% Oklahomans.

We've made it easy for them to gamble their wages away. Aren't we great?
Nobody's holding a gun to their head and making them gamble. Those that can't control themselves would be gambling on-line, with a bookie, or casino's in other states. Ain't personal accountability a bitch?

I'm sure Gov Henry's feeling the pain of being called an enabler. :rolleyes:

[PrideTrombone]

Basically, yes. Just drive through the parking lot of one of the larger casinos (we've got three huge ones in Tulsa--Creek, Osage and Cherokee), and check out the license plates of the patrons. 90% Oklahomans.

We've made it easy for them to gamble their wages away. Aren't we great?

Better to tax stupid people than me. :) The more they pay, the more I wouldn't have to. Hell, I say we open up casinos for non-tribal land.

[mikeelikee]

Not going to happen, PrideTrombone. The tribes won't agree to it. They bent Henry and Meachem over a big ol' barrel with this compact deal, and they don't intend to surrender their current advantage.

We sew, we reap. Thank God, in 2008, for the first time in the history of the state, we should have a Republican Senate President Pro Tempore.

[SleestakSooner]

Why would God care whether the Senate President Pro Tempore is a republican or not? :confused:

[Okla-homey]

A good Baptist man who habitually comes in late to work, and who signed into law gambling legislation that is devastating many Oklahoma families.

Back at ya, pal. :mad:

Do you have any data to back up your assertion that Oklahoma families are being devastated by Indian gaming...or is it just a feeling you have?

I'm reasonably familiar with the customer demographics of the gaming facilities in and around Tulsa. The majority of patrons are well over 45 y/o. Over a third are retired. That pretty much puts them out of the category of folks who need to be buying baby formula and diapers instead of playing a few slots to pass the time.

Also, not to introduce facts or anything, but Indian gaming pre-dated the Class III gaming compact in Oklahoma. Under federal law, all the compact Henry signed did was to allow casino-style banked card games and Vegas style slots in tribal gaming facilities, which polls indicated the people of Oklahoma wanted.

Just so you know, if Henry hadn't signed, the tribes could have petitioned the Secretary of Interior to allow class III anyway, and under that scenario, Oklahoma might not have gotten it's 6% of the net revenues from class III gaming as it now does under the compact. That amounts to literally millions of dollars that goes straight to education in Oklahoma under terms of the compact.

In short, gamble or you've proven you hate children

[Okla-homey]

Better to tax stupid people than me. :) The more they pay, the more I wouldn't have to. Hell, I say we open up casinos for non-tribal land.

It's not allowed under federal law, unless it is on land bought by a tribe and placed into trust status for that tribe by the Secretary of the Interior -- which then legally converts it to Indian Country.

Alternatively, there is nothing to stop the legislature from making casino gambling in Oklahoma, but if the state does that, it stops getting 6% from the tribes because that exclusivity is a term of the tribal-state compact.

[mikeelikee]

Thank you, counselor. It's not surprising that you're a fan of the guv. The only real evidence I have to-date is anecdotal. Actual Tulsa families that have been torn apart by one family member's addiction. Yes, I realize not everyone who gambles becomes addicted, but a certain percentage do, and under what provision of the compacts are the tribes obligated to assist with the costs of treating these problems?

[1stTimeCaller]

Gov Henry is a *********, not because of the gaming compact but because he tries to sit in the nice seats when his tickets are elsewhere. At the OU- OSU game in Norman, before he was elected, he and his wife were going down damn near each aisle under the overhang asking if anyone was sitting in the empty seats he saw. Some guy yelled at him to buy his own damned tickets. People with gambling 'addictions' are *********s as well.

[Okla-homey]

Thank you, counselor. It's not surprising that you're a fan of the guv. The only real evidence I have to-date is anecdotal. Actual Tulsa families that have been torn apart by one family member's addiction. Yes, I realize not everyone who gambles becomes addicted, but a certain percentage do, and under what provision of the compacts are the tribes obligated to assist with the costs of treating these problems?

why certainly!

Title 3A. Amusements and Sports
Chapter 2 - Horse Racing
State-Tribal Gaming Act
Section 280 - Offer of Model Tribal Gaming Compact

Twelve percent (12%) of all fees received by the state pursuant to subsection A of Part 11 of the Model Tribal Gaming Compact set forth in Section 22 of this act shall be deposited in the Oklahoma Higher Learning Access Trust Fund, and eighty-eight percent (88%) of such fees shall be deposited in the Education Reform Revolving Fund. Provided, the first Twenty Thousand Eight Hundred Thirty-three Dollars and thirty-three cents ($20,833.33) of all fees received each month by the state pursuant to subsection A of Part 11 of the Model Tribal Gaming Compact set forth in Section 22 of this act shall be transferred to the Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services for the treatment of compulsive gambling disorder and educational programs related to such disorder.

happy?

[frankensooner]

Come on Homey, some people are never, ever happy. ;)

[mikeelikee]

Thank you, homey. Yes, I'm glad to hear the tribes will be participating. We're going to need it. However, no, I'm not happy about the fact our state has been governed by one party for its first century of existence, and the ingrained patronage is sickening. To wit, Gene Stipe.

Now, we are in the midst of two terms under a feckless governor, who has finally been called out to show his liberal inclinations, even if it is a little late in the game.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Thank you, counselor. It's not surprising that you're a fan of the guv. The only real evidence I have to-date is anecdotal. Actual Tulsa families that have been torn apart by one family member's addiction. Yes, I realize not everyone who gambles becomes addicted, but a certain percentage do, and under what provision of the compacts are the tribes obligated to assist with the costs of treating these problems?

You have made me seriously think about this. Everytime I buy a six pack(okay, a twelver), I have spent 10.89(or 8.99 a case for some natty) on an addiction, that could have went to a utility bill or whatever. How come Anheiser, Marlboro or US Tobacco doesnt have any type of provisions to take care of us 'holics? By the way, what the **** does feckless mean?

[frankensooner]

Mikee sounds mad as he11, I hope his loved ones keep dangerous weapons and pointy things out of his reach!!! ;) :D

[Pricetag]

By the way, what the **** does feckless mean?
I think it's another word for "Democrat."

[frankensooner]

You mean Dims...get it right ;)

[Okla-homey]

By the way, what the **** does feckless mean?

feck-less (adj.) one lacking in feck.

[Turd_Ferguson]

feck-less (adj.) one lacking in feck.
Very witty for 7:13 a.m.