Seat Belts

[royalfan5]

Do you wear your seat belts? I do at all times, and I'm to the point where I do it out of muscle memory. To me wearing a seatbelt just seems like the smart thing to do, but I know many people feel differently.

[Vaevictis]

Heh, my parents beat this into me young. I don't even think about it anymore.

Same goes for locking doors.

[yermom]

good idea? yes.

should be mandated by law? no.

[Mjcpr]

When I was a kid, nobody wore their seatbelts......occasionally there would be an oddball that put theirs on but nobody I knew wore one that I can remember. When the law was passed is when I began wearing one and now I always do. The older generation, I believe, is probably the only group that doesn't wear it. Oh, and the hillbillies.

[StoopTroup]

When you were a kid they took you to the hospital after a car wreck and you died....

Now...David Garrett can help you if you've been seriously hurt in an auto accident. :D

[Boomer.....]

good idea? yes.

should be mandated by law? no.
Agreed.

It is always better to wear your seatbelt and studies show that it greatly reduces the risk of injury during an accident, but I have know of many cases where the person or people not wearing the seatbelt was unharmed or survived and wouldn't have if they were wearing it.

[yermom]

When you were a kid they took you to the hospital after a car wreck and you died....

Now...David Garrett can help you if you've been seriously hurt in an auto accident. :D

some of that is the crumbling cars, back then the driver was the softest thing in the car

now as things crumple some of the energy of the collision is absorbed by the deforming car

[StoopTroup]

At this point...

I'm sold on the idea of wearing my seat belt and have made it a habit to latch the belt before taking my vehicle out of park.

Since I do have a brain...is it illegal to unhook that warning bell that goes off when my Wife doesn't snap hers? It would really help my stress levels when riding with her. :D

[soonerbrat]

Always.

[StoopTroup]

now as things crumple some of the energy of the collision is absorbed by the deforming car

Very true.

My Brother got sammiched in his honda civic some years ago and they basically cut the back of the car off and replaced it and fixed the front bumper.

I would imagine they only total them now if they have to use the jaws of life on the vehicle to cut you out.

[Viking Kitten]

I'd rather not have some jackhole land on my car when they go flying out of their own.

[NormanPride]

I'd rather not have some jackhole land on my car when they go flying out of their own.

I know. That's such a bummer when that happens.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

good idea? yes.

should be mandated by law? no.


Agreed as well..Should only be mandated IMO for minors

[ousoonerfan]

I remember when Barbara Mandrell had her car accident that almost killed her and her kids. In the aftermath, she had said that she had just put on her seatbelt and made her kids put theirs on too. It happened sometime in the early 80's and I was somewhere between 8-10 years old. No one in my family ever wore their seatbelts. It stuck with me and have worn my seatbelt ever since.

[Fraggle145]

good idea? yes.

should be mandated by law? no.

Agreed. just a way to invade my privacy and extort more money out of me in my opinion. Also it keeps more stupid people around IMO.

Should be mandated for minors though, just because you are an idiot your kid shouldnt suffer.

[slickdawg]

I've tasted a steering wheel with my face before, so I ALWAYS wear my seat belt.

[oumartin]

shoot, we used to ride up in the back window area of the car. Its these "safer" aluminum cans we call cars these days that have made seat belts a necessity.
However, there are no seat belts on my motorcycle

[MamaMia]

I always do. One time I unhooked my seat belt while I was stopped at the traffic light because my puppy's leash got caught on a lever. A policeman, who was parked at the ATM spying on people, gave me a ticket for it. I saw him sitting over there, but my dog was having a mini panic attack. I made the assumption that he was bright enough to realize that nobody would just take their seatbelt off in front of a policeman unless they had a reason, and after all, he did see me bend down. I even told him what happened, but he didn't care. He just said that I should have waited and pulled over, but it just so happens that that traffic light takes forever to change to the turning arrow.

He had a big jacket over his name plate and badge and his writing was illegible, so I went to the police station to pay my ticket, to find out his name and to make a formal complaint about the little puppy hating punk. They agreed and told me I should fight it but there was no way I could take off from work all afternoon on the 1st day of the month to fight a $50.00 ticket. Thats when I make payroll.

For a month or so he followed me all over town just waiting for me to break the law. He was obsessed with me. Well, one evening after watching Its a Wonderful Life, my niece and I decided to take the dogs for a drive through Chrystal Beach and get ourselves a nutty buddy at Loves. My dog Watson has his own 3-D glasses and loves hanging out the window and looking at the Christmas light display. They were just getting ready to close but let us in anyway. The west gate at the end of the display is in the middle of No Mans Land. The lights off so just as we approached that gate. It was real dark. Off in the distance we saw two elderly people wandering around. We rescued them. They were freezing. They had decided to walk through Crystal Beach so and take a buggy ride but ended up at the wrong gate when they left to find their car. Their car was at the church parking lot way on the other side. When his father was in my car, guess who didn't put on his seat belt? So I said..."You need to put your seat belt on sir. This punk gave me a ticket when my puppy was choking and hes been following me around since I complained. They asked what his name was, explaining that they have a son on the force. I told them his name and lo and behold if it wasn't his parents. Well, his mother said she would get onto him and make him leave me alone. She gave me her phone number and told me to call her if he followed me one more time. Now he just pretends like he doesn't even see me. I am invisible to him. :P

[sanantoniosooner]

I like the "I would have died if I was wearing a seat belt" thing.

If I ever meet someone that survived BECAUSE they had no seatbelt on, I will immediately escort them to purchase lottery tickets.

Fire scenarios are the only scary about a seat belt.

[yermom]

I always do. One time I unhooked my seat belt while I was stopped at the traffic light because my puppy's leash got caught on a lever. A policeman, who was parked at the ATM spying on people, gave me a ticket for it. I saw him sitting over there, but my dog was having a mini panic attack. I made the assumption that he was bright enough to realize that nobody would just take their seatbelt off in front of a policeman unless they had a reason, and after all, he did see me bend down. I even told him what happened, but he didn't care. He just said that I should have waited and pulled over, but it just so happens that that traffic light takes forever to change to the turning arrow.

He had a big jacket over his name plate and badge and his writing was illegible, so I went to the police station to pay my ticket, to find out his name and to make a formal complaint about the little puppy hating punk. They agreed and told me I should fight it but there was no way I could take off from work all afternoon on the 1st day of the month to fight a $50.00 ticket. Thats when I make payroll.

For a month or so he followed me all over town just waiting for me to break the law. He was obsessed with me. Well, one evening after watching Its a Wonderful Life, my niece and I decided to take the dogs for a drive through Chrystal Beach and get ourselves a nutty buddy at Loves. My dog Watson has his own 3-D glasses and loves hanging out the window and looking at the Christmas light display. They were just getting ready to close but let us in anyway. The west gate at the end of the display is in the middle of No Mans Land. The lights off so just as we approached that gate. It was real dark. Off in the distance we saw two elderly people wandering around. We rescued them. They were freezing. They had decided to walk through Crystal Beach so and take a buggy ride but ended up at the wrong gate when they left to find their car. Their car was at the church parking lot way on the other side. When his father was in my car, guess who didn't put on his seat belt? So I said..."You need to put your seat belt on sir. This punk gave me a ticket when my puppy was choking and hes been following me around since I complained. They asked what his name was, explaining that they have a son on the force. I told them his name and lo and behold if it wasn't his parents. Well, his mother said she would get onto him and make him leave me alone. She gave me her phone number and told me to call her if he followed me one more time. Now he just pretends like he doesn't even see me. I am invisible to him. :P


creepy.

:D

[sanantoniosooner]

The people that don't want seat belts are the same ones that wouldn't want a helmet on a motorcycle.

It's a shame that safety sometimes cramps our style.

[oumartin]

MamaMia always wears her seat belt while coasting through stop signs! ;)

[yermom]

The people that don't want seat belts are the same ones that wouldn't want a helmet on a motorcycle.

It's a shame that safety sometimes cramps our style.

yet, in OK, you don't have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle

it should probably be illegal to smoke and eat at McDonald's too, the state knows what's good for us

[Mjcpr]

Where can I get a pair of 3D glasses for my dog?

[sanantoniosooner]

yet, in OK, you don't have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle

it should probably be illegal to smoke and eat at McDonald's too, the state knows what's good for us
Law or lack of law has nothing to do with what is sensible.

There's a reason doctors refer to motorcycle riders as "organ donors".

Least you can do is even the odds.

[royalfan5]

I don't think seat belts and helmets should be required either as long as not wearing them counts as contributory negligence in a lawsuit.

[Beef]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2860122

No seatbelt+legally drunk+marijuana+talking on cell phone in attempted booty call=dead pitcher

Glad he didn't take anyone else out in his suicide attempt.

[sanantoniosooner]

The ones that die don't bug me as much as the one's that suck up funds to be kept alive by a machine because they didn't want to be inconvenienced.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

As a safety professional, If I were guru for the day:

Safety Belt Mandated - yes
Motorcycle Helmet Mandated - yes
Forbidding cell phone use while driving - yes

All of these saves lives and two can reduce the severity of accidents. If an indivdual posted a insurance bond of a million dollars or so to cover medical costs incurred if you weren't wearing either of the first two, then I would say you can have the right to opt out.

The last reduces distraction and the chance of a traffic incident. Research has shown and proven that people talking on cell phone and driving are impaired and reaction time and reasoning are significantly reduced when speaking on a cell phone (any type) than when not. Some researchers have even made the example that it is equivalent to a BAC level over 0.08.

[soonerbrat]

I always do. One time I unhooked my seat belt while I was stopped at the traffic light because my puppy's leash got caught on a lever. A policeman, who was parked at the ATM spying on people, gave me a ticket for it. I saw him sitting over there, but my dog was having a mini panic attack. I made the assumption that he was bright enough to realize that nobody would just take their seatbelt off in front of a policeman unless they had a reason, and after all, he did see me bend down. I even told him what happened, but he didn't care. He just said that I should have waited and pulled over, but it just so happens that that traffic light takes forever to change to the turning arrow.

He had a big jacket over his name plate and badge and his writing was illegible, so I went to the police station to pay my ticket, to find out his name and to make a formal complaint about the little puppy hating punk. They agreed and told me I should fight it but there was no way I could take off from work all afternoon on the 1st day of the month to fight a $50.00 ticket. Thats when I make payroll.

For a month or so he followed me all over town just waiting for me to break the law. He was obsessed with me. Well, one evening after watching Its a Wonderful Life, my niece and I decided to take the dogs for a drive through Chrystal Beach and get ourselves a nutty buddy at Loves. My dog Watson has his own 3-D glasses and loves hanging out the window and looking at the Christmas light display. They were just getting ready to close but let us in anyway. The west gate at the end of the display is in the middle of No Mans Land. The lights off so just as we approached that gate. It was real dark. Off in the distance we saw two elderly people wandering around. We rescued them. They were freezing. They had decided to walk through Crystal Beach so and take a buggy ride but ended up at the wrong gate when they left to find their car. Their car was at the church parking lot way on the other side. When his father was in my car, guess who didn't put on his seat belt? So I said..."You need to put your seat belt on sir. This punk gave me a ticket when my puppy was choking and hes been following me around since I complained. They asked what his name was, explaining that they have a son on the force. I told them his name and lo and behold if it wasn't his parents. Well, his mother said she would get onto him and make him leave me alone. She gave me her phone number and told me to call her if he followed me one more time. Now he just pretends like he doesn't even see me. I am invisible to him. :P

1. I thought you never got tickets
2. I thought seatbelt tickets were $20 not $50?

[sanantoniosooner]

1. I thought you never got tickets
2. I thought seatbelt tickets were $20 not $50?
the banana bread challenge has made all the ladies feisty. :D

[yermom]

1. I thought you never got tickets
2. I thought seatbelt tickets were $20 not $50?

seems like they were originally like $70?

i think the first one i got was $35 and the last one was $25

[yermom]

As a safety professional, If I were guru for the day:

Safety Belt Mandated - yes
Motorcycle Helmet Mandated - yes
Forbidding cell phone use while driving - yes

All of these saves lives and two can reduce the severity of accidents. If an indivdual posted a insurance bond of a million dollars or so to cover medical costs incurred if you weren't wearing either of the first two, then I would say you can have the right to opt out.

The last reduces distraction and the chance of a traffic incident. Research has shown and proven that people talking on cell phone and driving are impaired and reaction time and reasoning are significantly reduced when speaking on a cell phone (any type) than when not. Some researchers have even made the example that it is equivalent to a BAC level over 0.08.

so you probably shouldn't have kids, dogs or other people in the car with you either

[Xstnlsooner]

I have a daughter who needs her dad. Hence, I wear a seat
belt.


Oh yeah, that law thingy too. heh

[OSUAggie]

No seatbelt+legally drunk+marijuana+talking on cell phone in attempted booty call=dead pitcher

99.521% of the time it = yay

(as long as the booty call comes through)

[Petro-Sooner]

Forbidding cell phone use while driving - yes


Absolutley 100%. This is one of my largest pet peeves.

[soonerbrat]

seems like they were originally like $70?

i think the first one i got was $35 and the last one was $25


maybe it varies by county. I got one for $20 in Logan County.

i WAS wearing my seatbelt, btw..he stopped me for speeding, started writing the ticket and I talked him out of it..but since he had started writing it, he had to finish the ticket because they get audited...so we had the following conversation:

He: "I'm going to make two statements to you and ask you one question. The ticket for going 15 mph over the speed limit is $260*. The ticket for not wearing your seatbelt is $20. Were you wearing your seat belt?"

Me: "No Sir"







*I don't remember the actual amount of the speeding ticket but it was WAY more than $20

[soonerbrat]

so you probably shouldn't have kids, dogs or other people in the car with you either



or listen to the radio, or eat or drink anything, or shave....

[jk the sooner fan]

Agreed. just a way to invade my privacy and extort more money out of me in my opinion. Also it keeps more stupid people around IMO.

Should be mandated for minors though, just because you are an idiot your kid shouldnt suffer.

how on earth does legally mandating you wear a seatbelt invade your privacy?

i'll hang up and listen to the answer on air, this should be really good.

[sanantoniosooner]

It's pretty obvious to me that yermom just likes living on the edge.

[soonerbrat]

My best friend never wears her seatbelt, nor does she make her 13 yo daughter wear one..it baffles me. I have to nag them every time they ride in the car with me...and when my friend takes my daughter places, she nags them too.

the stupidest part about it - my friend is a doctor..you'd think she'd know better and at least make her daughter wear one. She's all about getting that HPV vaccine for her daughter, but won't make her wear a seatbelt.

and yeah..when I see people riding in the car with their kids on their laps..i always want to say to them "cute airbag"

[Xstnlsooner]

It's definitely an infringement upon my personal rights and a bit
ridiculous seeing how bikers don't have to wear helmets,
but I'm glad they have that right to choose. I'd do it still,
even if it were not the law, just for safety sake.

[leavingthezoo]

It's definitely an infringement upon my personal rights and a bit
ridiculous seeing how bikers don't have to wear helmets,
but I'm glad they have that right to choose. I'd do it still,
even if it were not the law, just for safety sake.

seatbelt wearers haven't lost their right to choose. now, they just get to choose to pay a fine for the freedom to not wear the seatbelt. :D

[MamaMia]

1. I thought you never got tickets
2. I thought seatbelt tickets were $20 not $50? I didn't classify a seatbelt violation as a traffic ticket, even though I suppose it probably is. Fines for not wearing your seatbelt can range from $25.00 to $100.00 for first time offenders in Oklahoma.


Where can I get a pair of 3D glasses for my dog?
My little nephew bought Doggles Goggles for dogs and fit a 3-D lens in them. Watson loves it. He gets real happy when they put his glasses on for him at the light display. Now that we travel so much, we bought doggy car seats. We purchased the type that allows them to look out the back-side window. I suggest them for every dog lover. :)

[soonerbrat]

Fines for not wearing your seatbelt can range from $25.00 to $100.00 for first time offenders in Oklahoma.





Mine was $20.

[MamaMia]

Mine was $20.
Well, then its changed since then, okay? Stop being so hormonal for Gods sake.

[Mjcpr]

Well, then its changed since then, okay? Stop being so hormonal for Gods sake.

:les:DON'T PAY HER!!

[soonerbrat]

Well, then its changed since then, okay? Stop being so hormonal for Gods sake.


hormonal? I was just telling you how much my ticket was.

[soonerbrat]

Mama - I just found it funny that you had a big long thread about how you never get tickets - only warnings - despite speeding all over town and running stop signs, and then tell a story about how you got a ticket and then were stalked by a policeman just waiting for you to break the law.

you don't have to be so defensive.

[sanantoniosooner]

:les:BANANA BREAD FIGHT!!

[soonerbrat]

I hate banana bread

[jk the sooner fan]

i think a seat belt violation is of the "non-moving variety"

[MamaMia]

Mama - I just found it funny that you had a big long thread about how you never get tickets - only warnings - despite speeding all over town and running stop signs, and then tell a story about how you got a ticket and then were stalked by a policeman just waiting for you to break the law.

you don't have to be so defensive.
I never said I sped all over town and I never said I run stop signs. You're usually a fun person. Whats wrong with you today? :)

[sanantoniosooner]

:les:SHE HATES BANANA BREAD!!

[MamaMia]

:les:SHE HATES BANANA BREAD!!
Well, until she gets out of this nit picking mood of hers, I have nothing more to say to her. :D

[Turd_Ferguson]

There is some fat *** down in Pauls Valley that has an old seat belt sewn on his old man jump suit, so when he's driven through town, it looks like he's buckled up. How ghey:texan:

[soonerbrat]

hmmm...someone gets caught contradicting herself, then gets snippy with the person who points it out.....

interesting.


(and for the record...not completely stopping at a stop sign IS running a stop sign, no matter what else you might call it)

[Fraggle145]

how on earth does legally mandating you wear a seatbelt invade your privacy?

i'll hang up and listen to the answer on air, this should be really good.

If I understand the law correctly (and I could be wrong) you can be pulled over on the suspicion that you are not wearing your seat belt. Following being pulled over, even if you are wearing your seatbelt at that time, you can be searched (or refuse search thereby creating probable cause and get searched anyway). I am not saying it is the norm, but I am saying it is a possibility. Sorry I guess I forgot my tin foil hat :O

[yermom]

maybe it varies by county. I got one for $20 in Logan County.

i WAS wearing my seatbelt, btw..he stopped me for speeding, started writing the ticket and I talked him out of it..but since he had started writing it, he had to finish the ticket because they get audited...so we had the following conversation:

He: "I'm going to make two statements to you and ask you one question. The ticket for going 15 mph over the speed limit is $260*. The ticket for not wearing your seatbelt is $20. Were you wearing your seat belt?"

Me: "No Sir"







*I don't remember the actual amount of the speeding ticket but it was WAY more than $20

i got stopped for speeding once, got a seatbelt ticket

got stopped once for running a stop sign (that shouldn't be there ;) ) and got a seatbelt ticket

i'm sure the seatbelt law has saved me some money :D


It's pretty obvious to me that yermom just likes living on the edge.

:O

generally, if i am on the highway i'm wearing it

i never said it wasn't stupid to not wear one, i just think it's intruding on our lives

there are lots of things that are stupid/risky that are not illegal

should the cops check our house for smoke detectors? make sure we are wrapping it up with the skank we met at the bar?

[MamaMia]

hmmm...someone gets caught contradicting herself, then gets snippy with the person who points it out.....

interesting.


(and for the record...not completely stopping at a stop sign IS running a stop sign, no matter what else you might call it)You dear are the one getting all snippy and rude. Your comprehension skills are seriously lacking if you actually believe what you just said. Do you honestly not know the definitions of the words run and coast? There is a big difference.

Like I said, the fine in the state of Oklahoma range anywhere from $25.00 to $100.00. See...http://blog.laborlawtalk.com/2006/10/27/oklahoma-seatbelt-ticket-laws/

Unlike the way you have been behaving, I am a reasonable person and always give someone the benefit of the doubt, and therefore would guess that you got your seatbelt fine when it was $20.00. You have no clue when I got fined for the seatbelt violation. I have most likely been driving for longer than your snot nosed little *** has been on this earth and in this particular season of my life, like I said...I never get a ticket. I did not say, 'I have never gotten a ticket in my entire life'. I said "I never get a ticket"...and thats what I meant.

Now, how about you give it a rest? :)

[Petro-Sooner]

:pop:

[BlondeSoonerGirl]

Chicks, man...

:dean: *click* :dean: