Have yall heard about this new Michael Moore movie?

[Jerk]

...it will expose the U.S. capitalist pig health care system for what it is...a corrupt system of greed and profiteering and supression of the proletariat. To see a truely great and efficient way to run health care, MM will take us to Cuba..to show us the utopia of doctors and medicine.

I can't wait!

[usmc-sooner]

Micheal Moore is a corrupt capitalist pig

[tommieharris91]

I hope he gets blackballed from a system he will need very soon.

[LilSooner]

If only I was an owner of a hospital. I don't know if many of you trees and hills folk have been watching the triad deal that's going on, but CHS just bought triad for 6.8 BILLION dollars to make it one of the largest deal on the books. The CEO is getting something like 20 mill before all of his incentives.


In the next couple of year the feds are talking about cutting 10 billion our of health care system.

Health care is big business whether you like it or not. You should see some of the **** that is coming out on to the market so that the consumer (patient) will chose one hospital over another. Before 2010 it will be more like checking into a hotel rather than a hospital.

[bri]

You mean it isn't already? :D

[soonerscuba]

I think that the American hospital system needs to get prepped for the kick in the balls that comes in the form of outsourced medicine. A lot of insurance companies are starting to pay for people to go to hospitals overseas, because they are cheaper.

[BajaOklahoma]

Michael Moore is Laura Miller's twin.

[soonerinabilene]

michael moore is just a female version of rosie odonnell.

[Widescreen]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04152007/news/worldnews/moores_sicko_stunt_worldnews_janon_fisher.htm


Filmmaker Michael Moore's production company took ailing Ground Zero responders to Cuba in a stunt aimed at showing that the U.S. health-care system is inferior to Fidel Castro's socialized medicine, according to several sources with knowledge of the trip.

The guy's an anti-American sleeze but it's hard to get too mad at him. Everytime I think about him I think of his character on Team America.

[OKC-SLC]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04152007/news/worldnews/moores_sicko_stunt_worldnews_janon_fisher.htm



The guy's an anti-American sleeze but it's hard to get too mad at him. Everytime I think about him I think of his character on Team America.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04152007/news/worldnews/moores_sicko_stunt_worldnews_janon_fisher.htm

Read this through. Moore is a self serving son of a bitch who will do whatever he can to propagate his myth of the day.

[usmc-sooner]

I'll take the U.S. Health care system any freakin day of the week.

There's a reason our HC cost more, it's better.

All liberals ever talk about is how things are better in other countries, yet they choose to live here.

[soonerbrat]

well let me run right out and see it.

[soonerscuba]

I have always been under the impression that America's surgery system is the best in the world, our preventative medicine system, however, sucks monkey balls.

Michael Moore is a sad story, Roger & Me is a classic, his recent docs are a little too over the top for my tastes.

[usmc-sooner]

I have always been under the impression that America's surgery system is the best in the world, our preventative medicine system, however, sucks monkey balls.


as opposed to who may I ask?

my wife worked for a govt funded Native American Diabetes group and I think our preventive HC is unequaled

[royalfan5]

as opposed to who may I ask?

my wife worked for a govt funded Native American Diabetes group and I think our preventive HC is unequaled
I think is not so much the system is the problem, as many people are too dumb to take preventative steps on their own, and taking personal responsibility for your actions isn't the average Americans forte. So the gov't and HC providers get blamed for people not taking care of themselves. However, there are some private healthcare plans that probably don't place enough emphasis on preventative steps, which also is the genesis of much of the bitching. To me a preventative emphasis would make financial sense from an insurance perspective, but that doesn't always happen.

[OKC-SLC]

There's a reason the VAST majority of developments in diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of diseases comes out of the US. That reason is because it is a capitalist medical culture (as it is with the rest of the free market economy). This does alienate some who cannot afford health care/insurance, and that is a problem.

But the solution is not to socialize our health care. The solution is to find ways to make sure everyone is covered.

Think about it--what was the last major medical breakthru you heard about coming out of Canada?

[soonerscuba]

That is a good point, I don't think the quality of care is a concern, just access to that care.

[Rogue]

Here's my take, or part of it at least. Systems that are responsible for you from now until death - like Indian Health, VA, etc have wisely emphasized preventive medicine. If a person thinks about who gains when you get sick, hospitalized, put under the knife, etc it could make you down right suspicious of who's looking out for your health.

[usmc-sooner]

Here's my take, or part of it at least. Systems that are responsible for you from now until death - like Indian Health, VA, etc have wisely emphasized preventive medicine. If a person thinks about who gains when you get sick, hospitalized, put under the knife, etc it could make you down right suspicious of who's looking out for your health.

I worry more about who teaches my kids, rather than their HC.

[tommieharris91]

I've always been told never to trust nutritional advice from a doctor. In the US, doctors are usually unqualified to give nutritional advice. Other countries usually set aside people as nutritional doctors who basically prescribe vitamins and other nutritional supplements to extend life by preventing diseases such as diabetes, arthritis, and some types of cancer. After all, the doctors in this country make their money through other people's injuries, so telling people how to injure themselves by eating foods full of sugar and/or foods lacking nutritional value just pumps more money into the health care system. Our culture of eating lots of fast food isn't helping, and I've also heard vegetarianism/veganism is actually a counterproductive health measure as well.

[usmc-sooner]

I've always been told never to trust nutritional advice from a doctor. In the US, doctors are usually unqualified to give nutritional advice. Other countries usually set aside people as nutritional doctors who basically prescribe vitamins and other nutritional supplements to extend life by preventing diseases such as diabetes, arthritis, and some types of cancer. After all, the doctors in this country make their money through other people's injuries, so telling people how to injure themselves by eating foods full of sugar and/or foods lacking nutritional value just pumps more money into the health care system. Our culture of eating lots of fast food isn't helping, and I've also heard vegetarianism/veganism is actually a counterproductive health measure as well.

probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

[HoserSooner]

Think about it--what was the last major medical breakthru you heard about coming out of Canada?

http://www.hopitalpourenfants.com/en/about/medical.aspx

http://www.facmed.utoronto.ca/alumni/breakthroughs.htm

And that insulin discovery was such a crock.

[SoonerTerry]

****in michele mother****** MOREON can kiss my ************ a**...

fat, rich, bitchy, no neck, cant get laid, socialist mother****in prick...

**** him

[bri]

Eloquent.

You know what's funny? I'm a liberal, and I hadn't heard about this upcoming piece of crap until this thread. I get all my liberal news from the tireless watchdogs of SF.com. :D

[OklahomaTuba]

If Cuba has such great healthcare, why doesn't Castro use it??