ARTHUR BROWN

[melbitoast]

Encouraging quote from recent Arthur Brown interview with Scouts.

“My plan is to narrow down the field to, hopefully, five, after my visits this summer," Brown said. "Then, from there take officials to those five and pick from there. Distance isn’t a big deal to me so I’m looking everywhere.

“I do really like Oklahoma,” he admitted. “I will say they’ll definitely be on my favorites list, in my top five for sure. It’s about two hours from my house, so I know it pretty well already. OU is one of the great programs and has such a great tradition. Coach (Brent) Venables and I talk a lot. He is a great coach and has a great vision for the team. We are really on the same page. I know exactly where he’s coming from.”

[insuranceman_22]

Now that's exactly what I want to hear.....well other than bonafide commit today! Looks good and Brown's video's are awesome!

[starrca23]

In the words of Borat, "NICE!"

[MojoRisen]

Good - if he knows were we are coming from then he knows what is on the table.

Sounds good....

[Seamus]

In the words of Borat, "NICE!"


"Now her vajine is loose like a wizard's sleeve."

[snp]

Going to be some serious competition for him.

[KingDavid]

This kid is an absolute MISSILE. Unbelievable his footage. He looks like he's playing against the junior high B-team. I have to say that he is number one on my wish list at this point. What an incredible player.

Would love to get mcguffie too.

[stoopified]

Good

[bixby28]

From the look of the article, this guy could end-up a Sooner.

[Frozen Sooner]

Yeah, we're in pretty good shape for Brown.

[RedStripe]

Good

He has already commited.:O

[lcaldwell1]

REDSTRIPE....IS THAT JUST SPECULATION OR DID YOU HEAR THAT FROM SOMEONE CREDIBLE

[Dio]

"Fire (duh-duh-duuh-duuh) I'll teach you to burn..."

[OU_Sooners75]

REDSTRIPE....IS THAT JUST SPECULATION OR DID YOU HEAR THAT FROM SOMEONE CREDIBLE


I may be wrong, but I believe he is talking about Stephen Good.

[tommie15]

I don't know how big of a player we are, but he visited Lincoln last week.

[rankin07]

his brother is an absolutely huge OU fan and i know that they both want to play together...so it makes sense that OU's in the lead and will probably land him...besides him wanting to go to BUTKUS UNIVERSITY and to play for a great linebacker coach in brent venables who could pass that up?

[BASSooner]

Oh but Arthur is ALSO an OU fan. My friend goes to school with him and has a class. He wears OU jerseys all the time.

[illinisooner]

By Butkus University, did you mean Illinois? :D

[Frozen Sooner]

Heh. I had the same thought.

[Sooner in Tampa]

It really sounds like we have the inside track on Brown...I just hope that it pans out and he signs.

It would be a HUGE signing!!!!

[CrimsonFaithful]

What do you think are chances of getting him are (in % please)

[Collier11]

83/28

[snp]

I don't do percent guessing but I will venture a guess that we're going to be the team to beat for him.

ou is close, first to offer, he's been here the most, and his brother loves us as well. We're sitting pretty for the moment but every school in the nation is going to be after this kid.

[insuranceman_22]

Crimson - send an email to Blevins, he the % guy! But I'm with you, Brown would be an awesome addition!

[Octavian]

No surprise he was named a 5-star...any new info on him landing in Norman?

[Frozen Sooner]

Things are looking good. #15 recruit in the nation is a travishamockery, though.

[chbrew09]

Things are looking good. #15 recruit in the nation is a travishamockery, though.

This seems familiar?

[Jalal23V]

I read somewhere that Brown is looking for a team that has a lot of talent coming in with him. With the recruiting class so far, I think that may help us land him. It seems as though its between us, USC, and i think miami. Has anyone heard any news on his recruiting schedule - ie when he may make a decision? this summer or in the fall?

[EstablishedSooner1967]

And, scout put him as the #1

[colleyvillesooner]

This seems familiar?

Miller Lite commercial

[The Consumate Showman]

I will go out on a limb and say that we get Arthur and by February of 2009, we will also have little bro - the better of the two bros - Bryce. Brown family will probably shy those boys away from USUCK due to them being in a "thugville" type neighborhood. Only other big competition to my knowledge was FSU, but that ship has sailed with Bowden already taking 3 4 star or better LB's for this year's class.

[CatfishSooner]

:confused: :eek: Has he announced when he will announce? :pop

Why do you think Bryce is better than him?

[Collier11]

Rhino or anyone else with any info, there are all kinds of rumors flying around other sites that Brown committed, is this true at all or just another rumor?

[Rhino]

Rhino or anyone else with any info, there are all kinds of rumors flying around other sites that Brown committed, is this true at all or just another rumor? Not just a rumor, but a Dean Blevins-origin rumor. Those are the most fickle kind.

The kid won't make a decision for at least another month or two.

[birddog]

damnit, rhino, i saw you responded and was hoping you had the goods on the browns.;)

[joejon_gresham]

I think we are the front-runner for this guy... especially with his little brother & him being Big OU fans. Who wouldn't want to play for their favorite team?
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Little brother Bryce Brown in an OU helmet

[Sir Elwood]

I think we are the front-runner for this guy... especially with his little brother & him being Big OU fans. Who wouldn't want to play for their favorite team?
2206
Little brother Bryce Brown in an OU helmet

Exactly. These two brothers seem to be Sooners at heart.

[insuranceman_22]

fingers-crossed!!

[Collier11]

Not just a rumor, but a Dean Blevins-origin rumor. Those are the most fickle kind.

The kid won't make a decision for at least another month or two.


everything dean-o says is a rumor because he has never said anything that could be verified as a complete sentence or thought :D

[Jalal23V]

any new news on AB

[snp]

Just got back from his trip to ~20 schools. There will be no meaningful news for a while on Brown.

[insuranceman_22]

Sounds like he really liked Florida State......I know they've got a ton of LB talent already committed. Hope AB and bro Bryce just travel South a couple of hours and dawn the crimson......

[King Crimson]

for Dio:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD6KUzP3MQQ

[BillyBall]

for Dio:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD6KUzP3MQQ

Thats wild...

[hembro4OU]

hope this one turns OUt better than the rolle kid who went to fsu after everyone thinking he was coming to norman & wiliams before that now @ psu

[PAW]

bump

[snp]

I'm hearing Nebraska and Brown have gone different ways.

[Widescreen]

So I wonder which way Brown is going, then.

[Salt City Sooner]

Just a reminder, Wichita East is playing Dodge this Friday night on ESPNU at 7 PM CST.

[Salt City Sooner]

bump for tonight....

[BoonesFarmSooner]

I don't get ESPNU, did anyone see the game???

If so, thoughts?

[Harry Beanbag]

I think I forgot and drank a bunch of bourbon instead.

[cheezyq]

I watched part of the game, and he looked like he was playing in fast forward with the rest of the players in slow motion. He's a missile but he overruns plays a lot. But he's so fast at the HS level that it really doesn't matter as he's around the ball no matter where it goes. Dodge City ran some HS-level counter plays, which had varying degrees of success. He blows up blockers and gets to the ball carrier with ease. He'll need some fine-tuning at the college level, but he's a beast.

One one play, the fullback for DC ran straight at him (right side) while the RB ran a counter to the left. Brown blew up the FB and even though the RB had already passed the line of scrimmage on the other side, Brown was still in on the tackle which resulted in a 2- or 3-yard gain.

On another play, the DC QB ran a play fake and rolled to the right. Brown bit on the fake and went straight for the RB, crushed him, realized he didn't have the ball, and then rocketed toward the QB, causing the QB to get rid of the ball by throwing it out-of-bounds.

[cheezyq]

I was listening to a local radio station this afternoon here in KC, and Jeremy Crabtree from Rivals was on. He was asked about Arthur Brown, and he said that he believes that Brown will go to OU. Obviously it's not definitive, but it's encouraging to hear.

[EnidHighSooner]

How do you guys think are chances of landing him are now that we beat Miami with him here??

[Rhino]

Same chances as before we beat Miami.

Good.

[goingoneight]

That was an unbelievable crowd and team showing last Saturday. If I know kids, he's definitlely high on us after that game. I won't make any guarantees, but imagine the situation... you visit a school you're "leaning" toward and they destroy none other than Miami in exciting fashion.

Here's hoping... :)

[snp]

Brown made a top ten. In order of how Brown listed them: Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Kansas State, Alabama, North Carolina, LSU, USC and Miami.

Auburn, California, Louisville, Nebraska, Rutgers and UCLA didn't make the cut.

[soonerdave79]

No Florida St.? I thought he was really high on them.

[Widescreen]

Brown made a top ten. In order of how Brown listed them: Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Kansas State, Alabama, North Carolina, LSU, USC and Miami.

Auburn, California, Louisville, Nebraska, Rutgers and UCLA didn't make the cut.
So he's narrowed it to Division 1 schools. Good to see. :)

[snp]

No Florida St.? I thought he was really high on them.

FSU loaded up on backers early in the recruiting process.

[csbst2]

So whats up with him not coming for an official?

[Rhino]

He's already said he's here so much it feels like a second home.

No reason to use an official on us.

[SelmaBamaFan]

He got to see us lose to Gawja this weekend. I'm sure he was impressed =\

[jccouger]

I watched the new video of him and his brother on rivals.

He looked kinda smallish, but his strength made him seem huge. He was also very quick.

Oh, and I hope we get his little bro Bryce too!

[BASSooner]

I watched the new video of him and his brother on rivals.

He looked kinda smallish, but his strength made him seem huge. He was also very quick.

Oh, and I hope we get his little bro Bryce too!
IF we do get arthur, we WILL get bryce. Book it

[Frozen Sooner]

We're getting Bryce whether we get Arthur or not. Or so I've heard.

[EnidHighSooner]

So how good is his brother I know you guy's are saying he's a good running back, but how good is he exactly?

[Rhino]

So how good is his brother I know you guy's are saying he's a good running back, but how good is he exactly? He'll probably be the number one running back in the nation in next year's recruiting class. Some think he'll be the number one recruit.

Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upGNU4oOTEE)

[snp]

I think Bryce will end up being ranked higher than his brother. Partly because he'll have lots of hype as being Arthur's brother but partly just because he's flat out good.

[Curly Bill]

WOW! I don't know how good the competition he's facing is but he looks way fast. Some pretty shifty moves to boot.

[birddog]

He'll probably be the number one running back in the nation in next year's recruiting class. Some think he'll be the number one recruit.

Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upGNU4oOTEE)

holy crap! one of the comments questioned how short he might be.

he's listed at 6'0, 212 lbs. if that's true :eek:

[NorthernIowaSooner]

wow hes fast

[CatfishSooner]

wow hes fast


I concur

[dolemitesooner]

maybe the fasTest kid I have seen on tape. WOW

[Widescreen]

Looks good. He's going to have to learn to finish his runs in the endzone. Otherwise, he's going to hit the endzone stand walls. I kept wanting to yell "STOP FORREST!" :D

[wdupyall]

Ive stood right next to both of them...I'm 5'11. Bryce looked about 5'10, and Arthur looked about 6'0. Seeing them in person, I thought to myself, thats what NFL players look like in highschool.

[Desert Sapper]

Bryce Brown (http://friday.rivals.com/friday.asp?WeekNr=5)

He was the featured player during week 5 of friday rivals high school football coverage. Looks a lot like a certain other Witchita product from the '80s.

[colleyvillesooner]

Uh, yeah, he's pretty good...

[trwxxa]

He has plenty of time to think about his future now since Wichita East failed to make the state playoffs. Their season ended last night.

Arthur, come on down!

[LiL10(s)ArEaJoKe]

Wonder if these two kids parents would have some more kids, so just maybe they could be future Sooner greats as well........

[birddog]

a couple of friends and i drove through wichita this weekend on our way to colorado and put up a huge sign that read: THE SOONERS LOVE THE BROWN BROTHERS! BOOMER SOONER.

i'm sure it was burned 10 minutes later. :D

[Sooner98]

Per the Sports Animal: Arthur Brown has dropped the Sooners from his list of schools he's considering attending.

Wow. :(

[EnidHighSooner]

This is not good if its true, which i'm sure it is.

All we can do now is focus on Katoa, and pray he comes here.

[Harry Beanbag]

Rivals confirmed it. No Arthur for OU.

[Ground_Attack]

that's a shocker. oh well, good luck to the kid elsewhere. we'll both be fine. Boomer Sooner

[EnidHighSooner]

Picking North Carolina above us........pretty pathetic.

[Soonerfan88]

Dropped OU and Alabama (among others) but is still considering KSU, LSU, Miami, and UNC. :mad:


I have never trusted any "recruiting advisor" and just wonder about the motivation and influence of Butler.

[KingDavid]

Rivals confirmed it. No Arthur for OU.

This sounds, quite honestly, like a prima donna who just got booted from the play-offs and wants to make a scene.

I haven't liked the way the whole "show" has gone with Brown, anyway. 20 schools on his "list." Shaving it down 3 teams at a time. Dragging it out. Making a show. The "tour the nation" recruiting trip with his own bus. It's like he stole a page out of the Recruiting "How to set yourself up to fall as hard as possible" Manual:

Chapter 1: The Obnoxious Use of Limousines, the Jimmy Claussen Story.

Chapter 2: The "Feed-your-ego" 20 school recruiting Bus Tour: the Arthur Brown story.

It doesn't bode well, if you ask me. But I suppose I wish him well, nonetheless. The truth is that if he really didn't feel at home, then he wouldn't have been.

There are certain folks who are drawn to hard work and tough love. They are the sorts that join the marines, the army rangers, the navy seals. They are the sorts that are drawn to Venables and Schmidty. The Peterson's, the Loftons, the Claytons, ghd Harrises . . . and so forth.

And then there are those who are drawn to politics, or the path of least resistance. The listen to slick and easy-talking voices of Pete Carroll & Boo Blake. They wind up at North Carolina, or Miami, or wherever. If they're lucky, they eat their humble pie early and land at Sam Houston State for a couple of years before they go on to better things. If they are unlucky, they learn their lessons in a much harder way . . . from dog-catchers, PETA, and Federal Judges. They are the Vicks, the PacMan's, the Mosses, and so forth.

I hope that Brown does not land among them. But it doesn't smell right to me right now.

It'll be interesting to see how the rest of his recruiting plays out. If he continues to ratchet up the noise, the shock, the awe, then I say we're better off without him.

But if he can scale it back and make a humble, well-thought decision without stirring up so much attention for himself . . . then I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong and that we lost a truly good recruit.

Moving on . . . I wonder what this means for Major's decision. Will he reconsider?

[Ardmore_Sooner]

I love how we all get worked up over an 18 year old who isn't even on the team! :D

[Ground_Attack]

geez guys. who cares. We've missed out on stud recruits before and we've turned out just fine. OU will survive and Brown will be a stud elsewhere. Get off the kids back and enjoy the ride.

[birddog]

a couple of friends and i drove through wichita this weekend on our way to colorado and put up a huge sign that read: THE SOONERS LOVE THE BROWN BROTHERS! BOOMER SOONER.

i'm sure it was burned 10 minutes later. :D

or someone changed "loves" to "hates".:(

good luck arthur. whoever lands you is getting a great player.

[BillyBall]

Its weird how the list was cut, dropping both OU and Bama (thought to be the leaders). Bryce is probably gone too now unfortunately...

[INGRAM1]

geez guys. who cares. We've missed out on stud recruits before and we've turned out just fine. OU will survive and Brown will be a stud elsewhere. Get off the kids back and enjoy the ride.

I agree, we do not know if he will live up to the ranking or not. I really wanted him to come here, but maybe with all of our depth he was scared or maybe like someone else said he might not have felt comfortable here. He might be a bust or a stud. We could have used him but oh well. God may have different plans. Go Sooners. We might still be in the running because I do not believe what rivals says until the recruiting season is over.

[insuranceman_22]

What happened? I knew we weren't a lock for Brown, but I really thought we'd be close in the end. This kid is a player, I wish we'd been able to land him. Dammit, good luck to him anyway, we'll be fine too.

[Desert Sapper]

Good luck to him, whatever the lesser institution is that he manages to sign with. As has been said many times before to many, many players: Win with us, or watch us win someplace else. Please enjoy watching us win.

I hope he stays in-state. That would at least be dignified.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

geez guys. who cares. We've missed out on stud recruits before and we've turned out just fine. OU will survive and Brown will be a stud elsewhere. Get off the kids back and enjoy the ride.All I ask out of a recruit who spurns OU, is that he sign out-of-conference.

[snp]

Well that's a surprise. Hopefully they can salvage Katoa.

[sooner518]

has he watched UM, KSU or UNC this year? odd remaining list, but whatever. good luck to him.

[soonerboy_odanorth]

John Blake.

I wonder, since we don't "fit [Arthur's] personality" and both OU and Bama were dropped from his list, how much John Blake's revelation to Arthur that we're a completely racist institution influenced his decision. :rolleyes:

[The Consumate Showman]

What hurts us the most is going to be losing out on his brother, Bryce.

BUT, it does sound like there are some extracurricular "things" being tossed around. A 'bama freak buddy of mine said that he was told the compliance dept made Saban get off AB...just hearsay though I guess...who knows.

And, as Cale so eloquently put it to AD, we will win with you or without you.

Maybe AB has the Richetti-Jones-big-fish-in-a-little-pond syndrome.

[Rhino]

There's a handful of schools that have backed off AB just because of Brian Butler.

[soonerboomer93]

What hurts us the most is going to be losing out on his brother, Bryce.

BUT, it does sound like there are some extracurricular "things" being tossed around. A 'bama freak buddy of mine said that he was told the compliance dept made Saban get off AB...just hearsay though I guess...who knows.

And, as Cale so eloquently put it to AD, we will win with you or without you.

Maybe AB has the Richetti-Jones-big-fish-in-a-little-pond syndrome.

My feeling is, I'd rather lose a recruit then take the chance. If it costs us him and his brother, well, I wish them the best of luck. But the program and the school is bigger then any recruit/player.

[The Consumate Showman]

There's a handful of schools that have backed off AB just because of Brian Butler.


Sorry if Brian reads this, but...he is a T-O-O-L with an agenda.

He can get mad all he wants at sooner fans, but the bottom line is he should be scaring ALL major programs away from these kids.

I really thought that AB and Bryce would drop this guy, get a freakin' clue, and start doing this recruiting thing on their own with their parents and no one else.

You've got to have red flags up EVERYWHERE when the kid can't even talk without it coming from his (wink-wink-nudge-nudge) "mentor".

[Ground_Attack]

John Blake.

I wonder, since we don't "fit [Arthur's] personality" and both OU and Bama were dropped from his list, how much John Blake's revelation to Arthur that we're a completely racist institution influenced his decision. :rolleyes:

You got that right. We want no part of a coach that can't win games.

[Dan Thompson]

This sounds like Reggie Bush all over again.

BTW, how is this guy? Some history please.

[r5TPsooner]

This sounds, quite honestly, like a prima donna who just got booted from the play-offs and wants to make a scene.

I haven't liked the way the whole "show" has gone with Brown, anyway. 20 schools on his "list." Shaving it down 3 teams at a time. Dragging it out. Making a show. The "tour the nation" recruiting trip with his own bus. It's like he stole a page out of the Recruiting "How to set yourself up to fall as hard as possible" Manual:

Chapter 1: The Obnoxious Use of Limousines, the Jimmy Claussen Story.

Chapter 2: The "Feed-your-ego" 20 school recruiting Bus Tour: the Arthur Brown story.

It doesn't bode well, if you ask me. But I suppose I wish him well, nonetheless. The truth is that if he really didn't feel at home, then he wouldn't have been.

There are certain folks who are drawn to hard work and tough love. They are the sorts that join the marines, the army rangers, the navy seals. They are the sorts that are drawn to Venables and Schmidty. The Peterson's, the Loftons, the Claytons, ghd Harrises . . . and so forth.

And then there are those who are drawn to politics, or the path of least resistance. The listen to slick and easy-talking voices of Pete Carroll & Boo Blake. They wind up at North Carolina, or Miami, or wherever. If they're lucky, they eat their humble pie early and land at Sam Houston State for a couple of years before they go on to better things. If they are unlucky, they learn their lessons in a much harder way . . . from dog-catchers, PETA, and Federal Judges. They are the Vicks, the PacMan's, the Mosses, and so forth.

I hope that Brown does not land among them. But it doesn't smell right to me right now.

It'll be interesting to see how the rest of his recruiting plays out. If he continues to ratchet up the noise, the shock, the awe, then I say we're better off without him.

But if he can scale it back and make a humble, well-thought decision without stirring up so much attention for himself . . . then I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong and that we lost a truly good recruit.

Moving on . . . I wonder what this means for Major's decision. Will he reconsider?



He must have disliked how Stoops handled the last prima donna that came to OU. I believe that he is now playing at Sam Houston State or some place like that if memory serve me correctly.

[csbst2]

So Brown announces today. Any ideas on who he picks? My gut keeps saying its going to be LSU with Mr. HAVE A GREAT DAY. Thoughts? Hope he enjoys watching us win National titles the next few years.

[Jalal23V]

I am predicting he goes to SUC, .....or suddenly chooses to OU here in the last ten min. before he announces his choice.

[snp]

http://www.kake.com/

Watch it live here. I'm betting Miami


Yup. He's heading to Miami. Lists wanting to live in a big city as his criteria and friendship with the coaching.

[derek430]

he is going to play at Miami

[SOONER STEAKER]

We'll see him in 2 yrs and Murray will run past his *** on his way to a TD.

[csbst2]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, thats too funny. Hope he likes to lose. Best part is, we are going to get a shot to run over Miami. Hope he enjoys the Motor City Bowl games he will get to be a part of.

[Desert Sapper]

Yup. He's heading to Miami. Lists wanting to live in a big city as his criteria and friendship with the coaching.

Doesn't it have something to do with enjoying being black, but not in a racist way, or something to that effect? :D

[BASSooner]

surely this shouldn't affect bryce's decision. he's an OU lover and we should continue to try and land him for next year's class

[illinisooner]

Miami seems about right. Oh well, good luck to him, hopefully his bro comes to Norman.

[canes4ever]

surely this shouldn't affect bryce's decision. he's an OU lover and we should continue to try and land him for next year's class

What a difference between the first 5 posts on this thread and the last 5 or 10. By the way,Bryce also had on a "U" cap at the video release:D

[Watch Me Stride]

What a difference between the first 5 posts on this thread and the last 5 or 10. By the way,Bryce also had on a "U" cap at the video release:D

By the way: Miami-FL Football Record: 5-7 (2-6)

:D

[LSUdeek]

So Brown announces today. Any ideas on who he picks? My gut keeps saying its going to be LSU with Mr. HAVE A GREAT DAY. Thoughts? Hope he enjoys watching us win National titles the next few years.

I realize he didn't pick either of our schools, but did you forget which team is playing for the BCS title this year?

[Jello Biafra]

I realize he didn't pick either of our schools, but did you forget which team is playing for the BCS title this year?


yeh. cuz you really earned that shot.........

[KingDavid]

Miami? Really?

That would have been my last guess. I wonder if Bryce will have the sack to come play for us when he could be looking across the ball at big brother in one of his first couple of games?

I doubt it. But it would be a nice story line.

[snp]

I realize he didn't pick either of our schools, but did you forget which team is playing for the BCS title this year?

Did you forget the collective opinions about Les Miles from the ou nation?

[Scott D]

I was curious what school may end up getting looked at for recruiting violations in the future....er got a verbal from AB's "advisor"

[KingDavid]

I realize he didn't pick either of our schools, but did you forget which team is playing for the BCS title this year?

2007-2008 = the year of the asterisk.

The Crystall Ball has been treated like a hot potato: everyone batting it to the the next contender.

If LSU beats OSU, it'll have very little to brag about.

And let's be honest: LSU had better win this year because there's no way Lester's luck holds up beyond this year. He's going to get his arse handed to him with those fourth down "let 'er rip" calls he keeps making. That sucker had to have made a deal with the devil.

[soonerboomer93]

I realize he didn't pick either of our schools, but did you forget which team is playing for the BCS title this year?

Pitt and OU are awaiting our christmas cards

[OSUAggie]

2007-2008 = the year of the asterisk.

The Crystall Ball has been treated like a hot potato: everyone batting it to the the next contender.

If LSU beats OSU, it'll have very little to brag about.

And let's be honest: LSU had better win this year because there's no way Lester's luck holds up beyond this year. He's going to get his arse handed to him with those fourth down "let 'er rip" calls he keeps making. That sucker had to have made a deal with the devil.

So your 2006 Big XII Championship is invalid?

[illinisooner]

yeh. cuz you really earned that shot.........

Didn't you hear? They were undefeated in regulation this year!

[LSUdeek]

yeh. cuz you really earned that shot.........

Future CCG smack is highly ridiculous.

[KingDavid]

So your 2006 Big XII Championship is invalid?

Against my better judgment, I'm going to humor it:

Here's the deal. We were talking about qualifications (asterisks) not verfication (validity). It's a distinction that you will not be able to comprehend until you actually have at least two championships that can be compared to one another. Preferably more - say, for example, five in the last 8 years. At that point in time a fan of a championship program (such as OU, LSU, USC, even Texas) has the luxury of admiring each championship and comparing the merit of one trophy winning season against another. It's true. It really happens like that up here.

But it's not something I expect you to grasp. You live in a world where the thought of even winning a championship is so far fetched that it would need to be approached with words like verification, proof, and validity: "Could this possibly be for real?" "Surely I must be dreaming."

Forgive me while I pinch you back into the sad reality of your pathetic excuse for a football program.

Now, scurry along. You don't belong in this conversation.

.................

For the record, Deek, Aggie did bring up an interesting point. I think I can honestly say that, as I do sit here and survey the landscape of our conference crowns, that this one doesn't feel as good as last year's, or others that we've won. It still feels damn good, though. Don't get me wrong. But maybe not AS good.

And I can honestly say that even if we were to win the NC, it would still feel a little "icky" having been stung by Colorado and Tech. There's something so pure about the way we won in 2000 - unexpected and undefeated.

Just scattershooting, I suppose.

[Desert Sapper]

I hope LSU barely beats tOSU AFTER we lay the lumber on WV. This way, the AP can give us the same kind of champeenship they gave suc in 2003. Something has to counteract the SEC voting as a unit and the Bowdens ****ing with where we should have been in the coaches' poll.

[Curly Bill]

Anyone notice that with the verbal of Brown to Miami they now have verbals from the 2, 3, 4, and 15th highest rated outside linebackers according to Rivals? What's the dealio with that? Do they not know Miami pretty much sucks now? ...or maybe they want to play for someone that sucks?

[Desert Sapper]

It could be that the legacy of NFL linebackers is working in Miami's favor. A kid turns on his TV set and he can see Ray Lewis, Dan Morgan, Jonathan Vilma, and DJ Williams. Plus, it can't hurt that most of these kids remember that Miami had one of the nation's longest winning streaks before tOSU beat them in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl. It's what they grew up with.

Randy Shannon has also excited some people, and his defensive background has got to work in their favor when it comes to top prospects.

But in Arthur's case, it may just be that Randy enjoys being black, too. :D

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Miami is a VERY fun town. I really don't blame anyone who wants to be there.

[birddog]

that's all well and good. we'll just let championships be our selling point.

[LSUdeek]

Anyone notice that with the verbal of Brown to Miami they now have verbals from the 2, 3, 4, and 15th highest rated outside linebackers according to Rivals? What's the dealio with that? Do they not know Miami pretty much sucks now? ...or maybe they want to play for someone that sucks?

Same reason why John Blake won recruiting champeenships

[freshchris05]

Miami is a VERY fun town. I really don't blame anyone who wants to be there.


you got a little coke on your nose bro..






heh :D ;)

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

you got a little coke on your nose bro..






heh :D ;)Miami has other attractions besides Colombian drugs.

[goingoneight]

Whores? :confused:

[Curly Bill]

Miami has other attractions besides Colombian drugs.

Mexican drugs?

[Curly Bill]

I know they have a lot of crime in Miami. Ever see Miami Vice, or CSI Miami?

OMG!

[SeattleOUstudent]

Same reason why John Blake won recruiting champeenships


Ayyyyoooo!

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[Youngsooner]

I know they have a lot of crime in Miami. Ever see Miami Vice, or CSI Miami?

OMG!

Or Reno 911 Miami?

[KingDavid]

Miami is a VERY fun town. I really don't blame anyone who wants to be there.

* the Dolphins . . . back in the 70's?

* Ricky Williams high?

* Miami-Dade polling places during an election year?

* Don Johnson's white jacket and naked ankles?

* Gloria Estafan in the 80's?

* Gazing out on the sea's horizon at Cuban refugees drifting to shore on old fishing boats?

Man, I just don't see it.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

* the Dolphins . . . back in the 70's?

* Ricky Williams high?

* Miami-Dade polling places during an election year?

* Don Johnson's white jacket and naked ankles?

* Gloria Estafan in the 80's?

* Gazing out on the sea's horizon at Cuban refugees drifting to shore on old fishing boats?

Man, I just don't see it.Gateway to the Caribbean, dude!!!

[LiL10(s)ArEaJoKe]

Ok not to try to belittle Brown, but I'd like to compare some numbers here, and get any input thats out there. Brown, according to scouts Bench Presses 315, Squats 315, power cleans 235, has a 30 in vertical jump and ran a 4.47 froty at an Oklahoma Camp. Traivs Lewis's numbers acfcording to scout: BP:350, SQ: 550, PC's 320, Vertical 38 inches, and runs a 4.45 forty, and rivals show him at 4.34. Granted Brown is a 5 lbs heavier, according to scouts, but the OU roster now lists Lewis at 233.

My reason for listing these numbers is to asK this: just how good is Lewis and what kind of potential does he have......To think of a 235 lb LB that can run like the wind and jump like a BB player, and has his strength is gonna be a very hard guy to discount for any offense we face in the furture.......

[NorthernIowaSooner]

brown will need to start working those legs out if he squats the same amount he presses, should be able to squat quite a bit more then you can press

[KingDavid]

Ok not to try to belittle Brown, but I'd like to compare some numbers here, and get any input thats out there. Brown, according to scouts Bench Presses 315, Squats 315, power cleans 235, has a 30 in vertical jump and ran a 4.47 froty at an Oklahoma Camp. Traivs Lewis's numbers acfcording to scout: BP:350, SQ: 550, PC's 320, Vertical 38 inches, and runs a 4.45 forty, and rivals show him at 4.34. Granted Brown is a 5 lbs heavier, according to scouts, but the OU roster now lists Lewis at 233.

My reason for listing these numbers is to asK this: just how good is Lewis and what kind of potential does he have......To think of a 235 lb LB that can run like the wind and jump like a BB player, and has his strength is gonna be a very hard guy to discount for any offense we face in the furture.......

Rivals had Lewis as a 3 star for a good part of the year last year, if my memory serves correctly. I definitely was wondering what was up with him given those numbers. Maybe he lacks the instincts?

Brown clearly has a nose for the ball. It'll be interesting to see how Lewis develops. If nothing else, he should make for a heckuva special teams gunner!

I'm eager to hear more of the reports about the young players and how they did during the extra workouts. I saw one on rivals about the DE's (praised Frank Alexander). I'd love to hear who else stood out.