goodbye kitchen

[jk the sooner fan]

today is the last day for my crappy kitchen as we know it.......the contractor will be here in an hour to start the teardown

new cabinets, new countertops, new sink, new range, new tile backsplash

woot!!!!

we've got **** all over the damn house, looks like a war zone, i'll be glad when they're done!

[Mjcpr]

We need a before and after.

[sanantoniosooner]

Hope it goes well jk.

If you have any questions during the process don't hesitate.

[jk the sooner fan]

i'll have to scan in the before pics we took, and will get some after for sure

we used the website "service magic", they match up contractors for whatever job you're looking for.......anyway, found a company "classic kitchens"...they do ALL the work, no subs...they'll be done in 10 days....whats amazing is that he said they'd have the old boxes out in 2 hours

i've been really impressed with the way this contractor handles his business

[sanantoniosooner]

I need to post some before and afters of the kitchen I did.

[OUDoc]

Should have set up a web cam. Then we could all watch. :)

Yes, my life is that boring.

[jk the sooner fan]

you know, this whole project started because of a stupid crappy 23 year old 28 inch cooktop....it sucks, and since they dont make 28 inch models anymore....

well, that was the first domino that fell.....we're still waiting to figure out whether the floor has to be redone.....they're taking a peninsula off the countertops to open up the kitchen more.....and we only have 4 tiles of the floor that the previous owners put in......they're going to try and pop up 4 more tiles from under the fridge.......if they cant, then we have to put in a new floor

[sanantoniosooner]

New floor is likely. But you might get lucky.

If the previous owners installed with cheap thinset you have a chance. Of course, then you might worry about the rest of it :)

[jk the sooner fan]

well we are sorta hoping for the new floor :)

[OU4LIFE]

I just built my wife a new kitchen island..and tiled the top.

it's not bad.

[Viking Kitten]

I love before and afters... post those sumbitches!

[MamaMia]

Yes, before and after photos would be fun. :)

[Rhino]

we've got **** all over the damn house Hope it's not anything like this (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31474) (start at post 8).

[85Sooner]

Is your wallet hurting yet?

[frankensooner]

Contractor? Sheesh, that is DIY project.

[OU4LIFE]

for some, frank...for some.

[jk the sooner fan]

i'm no more qualified to do everything thats being done than the imaginary man on the moon

and yeah, the wallet is feeling it

the amount of work being done is rather extensive imo

[OU4LIFE]

everybody has their own level of comfort as far as remodeling goes.

I know how to roof, done it for 3 summers....but I sure as hell don't want to do mine when it comes time to do it. It's worth the money to me to not have to do it and and have it done in a day.

[sanantoniosooner]

I have a rule about certain kinds of work.

It doesn't matter if I CAN do it. If I can get paid equally to do something I'd rather do and pay someone to do something I don't care to do, it all evens out.

I can do lots of things I'd rather pay someone else to do.

But I usually reserve that for crap jobs like roofing or the like.

[MamaMia]

Make sure you get a written estimate from any plumbers before they start. ;)

[jk the sooner fan]

they're doing ALL THE WORK

nothing is being subbed out

electric (ripping out an old cooktop and wall oven/microwave combo), rewiring and resetting the outlets and replacing them with the GFI - in compliance with the code

plumbing - installing a new undermount sink, a new faucet, new disposal, taking out the sink in the wet bar and capping off the plumbing....moving the dishwasher

taking off the formica backsplash, formica countertops, replacing with a solid surface and tile backsplash

and new cabinets

[OU4LIFE]

esspensive.

but it'll be nice.

[jk the sooner fan]

yeah, cheaper than alot of the other contractors who wanted to sub everything out

but the kitchen is as old as the house, and if i ever moved, i'd have a hard time selling it without the upgrade....plus it will finally be a functional kitchen for us, which it really hasnt been

but the work thats being done - stratospheres above my capability level

[frankensooner]

Well, you can't go wrong with a kitchen remodel. Best of luck to ya!

[jk the sooner fan]

New floor is likely. But you might get lucky.

If the previous owners installed with cheap thinset you have a chance. Of course, then you might worry about the rest of it :)

new floor it is!!!!!!!!

[sanantoniosooner]

new floor it is!!!!!!!!
They are probably as happy as you are:O

More money in the pocket, plus the overall product will look better.

[jk the sooner fan]

he gets the tile at a distributor and doesnt charge me a profit on that, just labor

[sanantoniosooner]

he gets the tile at a distributor and doesnt charge me a profit on that, just labor
Good deal. It's the way I do it also, but a lot of guys charge you the street price even when they get it cheaper.

[C&CDean]

I'm in the process of having a 40x60 barn floor poured. My wife handles all the kitchen ****.

[jk the sooner fan]

this distributor gives a list of contractors that only charge the labor, so its a pretty nice deal - nice showroom too

here is day one pictures....i'll have to post the before pics later

where that big spot is on the floor, is where the peninsula was, that they took out to open up the kitchen

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera007.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera006.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera005.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera004.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera003.jpg

[GrapevineSooner]

Tile looks nice.

[StoopTroup]

This would have been an even better live webcam that that African Pond.

What ever happened to that site anyway...:D

[sooneron]

YOu should have hired Norm, THAT would have been webcam gold!

[jk the sooner fan]

I'm in the process of having a 40x60 barn floor poured. My wife handles all the kitchen ****.

i dont have a barn to handle........

[Preservation Parcels]

This would have been an even better live webcam that that African Pond.

What ever happened to that site anyway...:D

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80493&highlight=Africam

[Sooner_Bob]

We'll see jk on "Flip that House" before we know it . . .

I tiled our master bathroom last week and will soon get to frame a new wall and hang some drywall . . . when all goes well it's fun to remodel. :D

[whatsername]

Wow, I'm jealous! There's no way for us to "open" our kitchen more, we have to be happy with what we have. But we can update with new counter tops and stuff. That would be cool.

[OU4LIFE]

I'm in the process of having a 40x60 barn floor poured. My wife handles all the kitchen ****.


40x60? that's not a barn.....that's a shed.

[OU4LIFE]

Here's the kitchen island I just built for my wife(click for bigger):

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/4/9308442327.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5142010)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/4/9308442454.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5142011)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/4/9308442465.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5142012)

see, I'm not all hair and looks. I gots skillz.

[sanantoniosooner]

If you didn't weave those baskets also, I'm not impressed.

[jk the sooner fan]

very nice, i wish we had the open space to put an island.......we're stuck with the damn L shaped kitchen so many houses down here have

[OU4LIFE]

I have, well HAD a ginormous kitchen. I think I'm gonna miss the open space.

[BlondeSoonerGirl]

I have, well HAD a ginormous kitchen. I think I'm gonna miss the open space.

:les: GET BACK IN THERE AND MAKE ME A SAMMICH!

[OU4LIFE]

:les: GET BACK IN THERE AND MAKE ME A SAMMICH!


mayo or mustard ma'am.

[BlondeSoonerGirl]

Heh.

Oh, and looks like it's gonna be reeeelly nice, jk. WTG, you.

[jk the sooner fan]

ok, i'll post the "before" pics

here you can see the part that they lopped off at the end of the counter to open up the kitchen
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/oldkitch1.jpg

in the back you can see the dreaded crappy cooktop that started this whole project, behind the fridge to the left is the wall mounted oven/microwave
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/oldkitch2.jpg

here you can see the sink not centered on the bay window..friggin retards, and that lovely yellow formica countertop
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/oldkitch3.jpg
and just a view of the corner and cabinets
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/oldkitch4.jpg

[jk the sooner fan]

and now day 2 - the house smelled terrible when we got home.....the acetone or whatever glue they use to cement down the countertops.........lord, wow

the oak endcaps are on
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera001-1.jpg

the undermount sink and countertops - notice the sink is now centered on the window
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera002-1.jpg

and more of the countertops - and the lazy susan corner cabinet
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera003-1.jpg

[jk the sooner fan]

they lowered the light sockets down to counter top level which is nice, now the chords will be hidden, and not shown above the appliance on the counter

[BajaOklahoma]

I like that idea.
I can't wait to see if you like the floor - we need a new kitchen floor.
Congrats on the new kitchen.

[Sooner_Bob]

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:eek: ewwww . . .

[jk the sooner fan]

we picked out the floor tile today......got a couple of sample tiles, and i think its going to look great! mrs jk picked it out

[sanantoniosooner]

Just one question. What do they intend to do with the old boxes where plugs used to be? Cover them up with backsplash?

I ask because if they were strictly adhering to code, they would have to put blank plates over all of those so they would be accessible if there was ever a problem. To be honest, if properly done, it's one case where I don't think it's a big deal to ignore code, but I thought you might want to know.

[jk the sooner fan]

i'm not sure, but i'll ask! the guy is pretty up on code, he mentioned it the first nite we met.....so that would be my guess, but i appreciate the heads up

[sanantoniosooner]

i'm not sure, but i'll ask! the guy is pretty up on code, he mentioned it the first nite we met.....so that would be my guess, but i appreciate the heads up
Like I said, there are times when you do ignore that code. But if you do, you better take extra precaution to make sure the likelihood of ever having a short in that box is minimal. I usually strip wires a lot, twist them with pliers, a lot, cut off the excess wire and put a wire nut on with the pliers to get them extra tight.

make sure the guys don't just hold a bunch of wires together, without twisting them with pliers, and let just the wire nut hold them together.

[jk the sooner fan]

they're all capped and twisted - just checked

[sanantoniosooner]

they're all capped and twisted - just checked
I wouldn't worry about it then.

Just be aware it's fudging on code a little. It wouldn't pass if you were being inspected. Assuming they cover it with backsplash that is. I'm sure they will.

[jk the sooner fan]

well i hope they cover it with backsplash, otherwise i'd have some eyesore spots on the wall

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

This looks really nice. I'm seriously considering having new countertops and backsplash put in my kitchen. Unfortunately, my kitchen is the size of a postage stamp.

[jk the sooner fan]

This looks really nice. I'm seriously considering having new countertops and backsplash put in my kitchen. Unfortunately, my kitchen is the size of a postage stamp.

mine isnt much bigger!

[Harry Beanbag]

That's going to look way better jk. Have you thought about changing out that lighting?

[jk the sooner fan]

That's going to look way better jk. Have you thought about changing out that lighting?

yeah i have, actually they are going to put halogen lights under the cabinets......and i've since changed out the light covers to something more clear and less opaque

but the problem is the way they made those lights, its retarded as all hell and changing it would be a major ordeal

[sanantoniosooner]

yeah i have, actually they are going to put halogen lights under the cabinets......and i've since changed out the light covers to something more clear and less opaque

but the problem is the way they made those lights, its retarded as all hell and changing it would be a major ordeal
I've dealt with those a lot. Unfortunately yours is kind of small. If it was larger, you could just open it up, add some can lights and run a little crown molding around it. Maybe a fan if that's your thing.

But that one is so small it limits options a bit.

You could cover over it and go with can lights all over.
You could re-trim it out with oak that matches the cabinets.
That's all that came to mind quickly.

[Harry Beanbag]

yeah i have, actually they are going to put halogen lights under the cabinets......and i've since changed out the light covers to something more clear and less opaque

but the problem is the way they made those lights, its retarded as all hell and changing it would be a major ordeal


They thought that was pretty snazzy back in the '70s.

[jk the sooner fan]

dude, i'm already a smidge over budget ;)

[BajaOklahoma]

It's also easy to change out later.
Several years ago, we changed the kitchen lights to cans and removed the dropdowns over the cabinets.

[whatsername]

I love the new countertops! It's going to look really nice when it's done.

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

mine isnt much bigger!TMI! ;)

My cabinets are basically the size of the ones on your sink wall and then the only one we can see on this side of the fridge. I don't know how anyone ever prepared meals for a family in it.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera001-1.jpg

[jk the sooner fan]

Day 3 - the backsplash tile is in, but still has to be grouted....and some of the drawers are in...the undermount lights on the cabinets are in...tomorrow the cabinets will be all done and we'll be able to put all the dishes and such back in there

i set one of the cabinet doors up to show what the contrast will be
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera004-1.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera005-1.jpg

i've got the undermount lights on here
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera006-1.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera007-1.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jksantee/Camera008.jpg

we will have to have all the wall paper stripped and the walls repainted....still havent settled on a color, but it will have to be something non beige to bring out all thats there.....picking a color will be the tough part

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

Crimson

[sanantoniosooner]

It's looking good jk. Looks like you found a solid company to do the work.

Undermount sinks are one of the higher end items that it's worth getting. They just look so much better and they're so much easier to keep up.

[jk the sooner fan]

thanks, we're really pleased so far!

the floor next week will be the "fun part"

[GrapevineSooner]

Awesome.

[OU4LIFE]

picking a color will be the tough part

something in the red/auburn range would contrast well with that tile.

There's a nice color out there called Cedar Closet of something that is a nice rich redish brown. Would look good and tie in with the oak. fwiw.

[sooner_born_1960]

Any reason you didn't go with the microwave/range hood combo deal?

[jk the sooner fan]

something in the red/auburn range would contrast well with that tile.

There's a nice color out there called Cedar Closet of something that is a nice rich redish brown. Would look good and tie in with the oak. fwiw.

thats sort of what mrs jk was thinking!

at first we were going to go with the microwave/hood combo.....but it would have been really low over the top of the range.....and we wanted to do something with a little contrast in that spot to draw out the rest of the backsplash.......we're getting more counterspace than we had before, so we'll get a smaller microwave than we currently have and set it on the countertop

[Hamhock]

It's looking good jk. Looks like you found a solid company to do the work.

Undermount sinks are one of the higher end items that it's worth getting. They just look so much better and they're so much easier to keep up.

we put in a pour-in, undermount just like it. had a terrible time. finally made the countertop guys tear it out and put in an undermount stainless. when they were tearing out the sink, they busted the quartz and and to replace the whole countertop.

[TopDaugIn2000]

I have that same damn type of light in my kitchen, it's 4'x4'. I hate it, but haven't come up with any brilliant ideas as to how to change it yet without it looking stupid. I'll let you know when I do...

[OU4LIFE]

I think every house had one of those type of lights at one time or another.

I'm planning on getting rid of the 4 bulb florescent in our kitchen and go with can lights.

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

I have that same damn type of light in my kitchen, it's 4'x4'. I hate it, but haven't come up with any brilliant ideas as to how to change it yet without it looking stupid. I'll let you know when I do...My parents' kitchen used to have only those lights. Dad took all the flourescent lighting out and put a ceiling fan in its place. He left the ledge so my Mom can have different decorations up there. Then he took some of those lights like JK has under his counters around the edge.

[TopDaugIn2000]

the easiest (and least costly) is to replace the dark wood around it with wood to match your new cabinets, and get different covers.
I painted the wood white and I'm looking for stainless covers.
Gotta replace the lights too though, only one is working. Having a hard time finding 36" ballasts with 2 bulbs. Locke is gonna order them for me.

[OU4LIFE]

IF he ever get's off that damned island.

[Mjcpr]

something in the red/auburn range would contrast well with that tile.

There's a nice color out there called Cedar Closet of something that is a nice rich redish brown. Would look good and tie in with the oak. fwiw.

I think you're thinking of "burnt orange".

YWIA

[jk the sooner fan]

I think you're thinking of "burnt orange".

YWIA

we ate dinner at raising canes last nite.........i'm so tired of eating out right, but they had a color on their wall that was close to what 4Life is describing.....its got more red in it than burnt orange, so its not a true orange

but its in the same color group! :eek:

[colleyvillesooner]

we ate dinner at raising canes last nite.........i'm so tired of eating out right, but they had a color on their wall that was close to what 4Life is describing.....its got more red in it than burnt orange, so its not a true orange

but its in the same color group! :eek:

I may be going there for lunch. I know that color.

Did you get a new fence?

[sooner_born_1960]

something in the red/auburn range would contrast well with that tile.

There's a nice color out there called Cedar Closet of something that is a nice rich redish brown. Would look good and tie in with the oak. fwiw.
Way to gay up a kitchen remodeling thread. Oh, wait. :D

[Mjcpr]

That'll look sweet with your VY mural in the foreground.

:D

[OU4LIFE]

I hate all of you.

[jk the sooner fan]

Did you get a new fence?

yes

[colleyvillesooner]

yes

Good job, it looks nice. Thought that was your place. Bet it took you forever to put up. ;)

[jk the sooner fan]

yeah, it took that crew of texicans one whole day

the fence was 20+ years old and had some "issues", the guy behind me put up a new one after the city cracked down on him for code violations

[colleyvillesooner]

Well it looks good. I pass your house almost every day.

One day you'll come home and I may be in your pool. :D

[jk the sooner fan]

you're welcome anytime, seriously

bring beer

the water temp is pretty chilly right now.......major shrinkage

or even disappearance

[colleyvillesooner]

you're welcome anytime, seriously

bring beer

the water temp is pretty chilly right now.......major shrinkage

or even disappearance

You call it "shrinkage", I call it "reduced to national average" :D

Beer is good. Golf is good. Beer and golf, lookout!