Military Prepares for Dims Cutbacks

[OklahomaTuba]

With the Democrats now in control of Congress, the U.S. military can see the handwriting on the wall. So they're preparing for the inevitable gutting.

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[OCUDad]

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[85Sooner]

too funny. now th homeless will be able to afford hummers.

I mean why live in a 200k house when you can live under a 2 million dollar bridge :)

[usmc-sooner]

After being in the military I'll never vote for anyone closely resembling today's democratic party.

[OklahomaTuba]

After being in the military I'll never vote for anyone closely resembling today's democratic party.

That is probably the reason many of them think our soliders are stupid, useless tools of fascism and oppression. ;)

[SicEmBaylor]

And yet...defense spending now is at its highest levels since WWII.

[OklahomaTuba]

And yet...defense spending now is at its highest levels since WWII.

You might try adjusting for inflation on that one. Last I checked, the car makers were still making cars, and not tanks.

http://www.truthandpolitics.org/military-relative-size.php

[SicEmBaylor]

You might try adjusting for inflation on that one. Last I checked, the car makers were still making cars, and not tanks.

http://www.truthandpolitics.org/military-relative-size.php

You might try getting some updated information.

Even adjusted for inflation, it's at its highest levels.
For one thing, you're not taking into account that (and I'm making this figure up)...100 Shermans is probably equal to the cost of 1 Abrams.

The quality/technological advances of our military have increased not the quantity driving up cost.

[85Sooner]

You might try getting some updated information.

Even adjusted for inflation, it's at its highest levels.
For one thing, you're not taking into account that (and I'm making this figure up)...100 Shermans is probably equal to the cost of 1 Abrams.

The quality/technological advances of our military have increased not the quantity driving up cost.


So is every government expenditure. The gov never goes backward on spending period...........

[SicEmBaylor]

So is every government expenditure. The gov never goes backward on spending period...........

Yeah, I know. Tell Tuba that.

[Octavian]

Not everyone agrees.


Many inside and outside the military believe the Republican leadership is good for defense contractors and the private entities which provide material support to the US Armed Forces.....not for rank and file members of the US Armed Forces.


As Retired Gen. Paul Eaton said recently:



"We are in the midst of recovering right now from a constitutional crisis where you had the executive trump the other branches of government.”

Eaton lamented that so many service members believe that conservatives “are good for the military. That is rarely the case. And we have got to get a message through to every soldier, every family member, every friend of soldier, that the Bush administration and its allies in Congress have absolutely been the worst thing that’s happened to the United States Army and the United States Marine Corps."


-Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, who was in charge of training the Iraqi military from 2003 to 2004



You can watch the interview here (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/10/eaton-military/)

[SicEmBaylor]

Not everyone agrees.


Many inside and outside the military believe the Republican leadership is good for defense contractors and the private entities which provide material support to the US Armed Forces.....not for rank and file members of the US Armed Forces.


As Retired Gen. Paul Eaton said recently:





-Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, who was in charge of training the Iraqi military from 2003 to 2004



You can watch the interview here (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/10/eaton-military/)

There's a hell of a lot of truth in that. Generally, I do trust the GOP with the military more than I do the Democrats but it's ludicrous to suggest that the GOP doesn't lookout for the interests of defense contractors.

[Octavian]

There's a hell of a lot of truth in that. Generally, I do trust the GOP with the military more than I do the Democrats but it's ludicrous to suggest that the GOP doesn't lookout for the interests of defense contractors.


Yeah, and it's difficult to have an open talk about it because so many poeple will automatically dismiss the notion.


They're masterful at producing televised speeches, conferences, etc...in which the rhetoric (generally very jingoistic, extremely complimentary and praising) and the aesthetics (flags, emblems, military equipment, dressed soldiers) give the impression that their priority #1 is the average military serviceman or woman. It comes across very well on television.


But their policies don't match their talk and show....their policies benefit the companies which provide the ability to make war, not the people on the ground who are fighting.

[yermom]

or the ones that make it home...

[Octavian]

or the ones that make it home...


exactly.


Attempting to cut VA benefits, the lack of quality health care for vets, the suffering military recruitment, placing military personnel into hazardous situations without clear objectives...stretching the military dangerously thin across the globe...and on and on.....


They haven't been that good for the military.....they've been good for McDonald Douglas, Lockead, Boeing, and Northrop


But they do a damn good job of organizing pretty television speeches...and it's very convincing

[usmc-sooner]

I gotta call BS on you guys. I'm a vet, I went I made it home. They've done everything they were supposed to for me. I've been treated just fine as far as medical benefits.

Us military guys depend a whole hell of a lot on those defense contractors, pay em more as far as I'm concerned. My objectives were always clear.

I'd say the only people that have ever treated me anyways other than good are the so called liberals and Bush haters who would never dare pick up a rifle, run a PFT, get in shape, sacrifice time with their families for something other than their own good. These are still the only people that have ever treated me with contempt or try to tell me how I'm getting screwed because it fits their own agenda.

[garland sooner]

I'd say the only people that have ever treated me anyways other than good are the so called liberals and Bush haters who would never dare pick up a rifle, run a PFT, get in shape, sacrifice time with their families for something other than their own good. These are still the only people that have ever treated me with contempt or try to tell me how I'm getting screwed because it fits their own agenda.

My roommate served in the Army, went to Iraq and back, and he is a full-fledged Democrat. He hates Bush.

Nevertheless, I agree with you.