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Czar Soonerov
3/22/2007, 01:52 PM
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=437492007


Canadian seal hunters: we're not a "savage race"

By David Ljunggren

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Mark Small is fed up with being portrayed as a bloodthirsty killer for his part in an annual cull in which about 300,000 young seals are shot or clubbed to death on ice floes off Canada's east coast.

"It gives you a terrible feeling as a human being," said Small, a veteran hunter in the Atlantic province of Newfoundland. "We're not a cruel, savage race that came out of the forest somewhere."

As animal rights activists gear up for their protest against this year's hunt, the sealers complain no one wants to hear their side of the story. The hunt is a humane operation closely monitored by Ottawa, clubbing seals is the best way of killing them, and it supports a they say.

But their media-savvy opponents are sure to get yet more pictures of men beating small harp seals with clubs on red-stained ice -- a public relations nightmare for the seal hunters and for the Canadian government.

The protesters, backed by rock star Paul McCartney and former French actress Brigitte Bardot, say killing animals for their fur is barbaric.

"We know that this hunt is cruel and unsustainable and quite frankly should have been ended many decades ago," said Rebecca Aldworth of the Humane Society of the United States.

The main part of the hunt takes place in April off the Newfoundland coast, a hard place to reach. Most media attention focuses on the first stage, near the Magdalen Islands in the Gulf of St Lawrence, which this year is due to start March 28.

"They've said publicly that we are barbarians and we massacre seals," said Jean-Claude Lapierre, head of the seal hunters' association on the Magdalen Islands. "Our reputation has been sullied across the planet."

Some hunters fear the activists will succeed and kill off a centuries-old way of life.

The European Union's executive commission, pressured by the European Parliament to ban all Canadian seal products, says it will investigate the hunt. Aldworth is optimistic.

"I think the implications are very serious for the Canadian seal hunt. I think it spells the end of commercial sealing in Canada," she said. Her remarks were condemned by Canada's fisheries minister, Loyola Hearn, himself no friend of the protesters.

"Their efforts have been futile and I can understand why they're now grasping at straws and twisting the truth any way they can," he said, dismissing the animal rights groups as money-grubbers.

MALAISE

Critics say the fact that the bodies of seals jerk around after being clubbed shows the animals are suffering. Sealers describe the movements as muscle spasms and insist that a well-aimed blow with the blunt end of a hackapick club causes instantaneous death.

A new Canadian documentary on the hunt -- which takes the sealers' point of view -- shows a wild boar being slaughtered and then making the same movements when its throat is cut.

"There is a malaise in society. People have forgotten where food comes from," said Raoul Jomphe, the filmmaker.

Why, the sealers wonder, do people not focus on what happens in commercial abattoirs? And what about the massive game hunts in Germany?

"Our province takes no issue with the fact that they (the Germans) hunt 1.2 million deer and over 500,000 wild boars a year," said Tom Rideout, Newfoundland's fisheries minister.

"Therefore, it is hypocritical for them to take issue with a well-managed and sustainable seal harvest in Canada."

Hunters made more than C$30 million ($26 million) in 2006 from pelts alone. There is also a growing market for products such as seal oil, which is high in omega 3 fatty acids, which are said to help ward off heart disease in humans.

Although the amounts may not seem like much, Canadian sealers say the money is crucial.

According to Lapierre, some hunters in the Magdalen Islands earn as little as C$10,000 a year, half of which comes from one week of the seal hunt. For sealers who have to rely for part of the year on social assistance payments, the hunt helps maintain some dignity.

"It's a form of pride ... we go hunting to earn our bread, to find money to feed our families," he said.

Lapierre, like some other sealers, suspects animal rights activists do not want the hunt to end because it brings in too much money.

"It's the best business ever invented on the planet. It's super. You show pictures, you whip up emotions, you make people cry and then they get out their wallets," he said.

Aldworth dismissed the idea as absurd.

Last year she arranged for McCartney and his now estranged wife Heather Mills to lie on an ice floe next to a furry white-coated baby seal -- pictures which were shown around the world. Hunting for white coats was in fact banned 20 years ago.

Many Newfoundland fishing communities were devastated by the collapse of cod stocks in the 1990s and the hunt is one of the few things sustaining remote coastal towns.

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 02:54 PM
PETA reply?

Rhino
3/22/2007, 02:55 PM
WHEN I WANT THEIR OPINION, I'LL ASK THEM FOR IT!

SoonerStormchaser
3/22/2007, 03:06 PM
I love clubbing baby seals. They're so cute and cuddly you can't help but club them!

C&CDean
3/22/2007, 03:26 PM
A man's family has got to eat.

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 03:28 PM
Is baby seal delicious?

C&CDean
3/22/2007, 03:30 PM
Is baby seal delicious?

Tastes like chicken.

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 03:33 PM
Kentucky Fried Baby Seal... could be a marketing bonanza.

SoonerStormchaser
3/22/2007, 03:34 PM
Do you want kitten fries with that?

C&CDean
3/22/2007, 03:36 PM
You know the only difference between clubbing a baby seal and smashing a baby cockroach with your shoe is that the seals are cute and the roach is ugly. If baby seals had bucked teeth, crossed eyes, and big ol' pus filled sores all over them nobody would give a ****.

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 03:40 PM
You know the only difference between clubbing a baby seal and smashing a baby cockroach with your shoe is that the seals are cute and the roach is ugly. If baby seals had bucked teeth, crossed eyes, and big ol' pus filled sores all over them nobody would give a ****.

Agreed. And I figure as long as I wear leather shoes and eat steak, I ain't got no room to judge anyone. That said... I wouldn't wear a baby seal coat. They look cuter alive than dead.

C&CDean
3/22/2007, 03:41 PM
Agreed. And I figure as long as I wear leather shoes and eat steak, I ain't got no room to judge anyone. That said... I wouldn't wear a baby seal coat. They look cuter alive than dead.

Yeah, but so do hookers.

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 03:44 PM
Yes, but looks aside... rigor mortis+hookers=fun times. Try it and see for yourself!

C&CDean
3/22/2007, 03:49 PM
Yes... but rigor mortis+hookers=fun times. Try it and see for yourself!

But have you ever done a twitching baby seal?

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 03:50 PM
And the dismembering is oddly satisfying, unlike with seals where its just another day... another dollar.

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 03:52 PM
But have you ever done a twitching baby seal?

Oh, here we go with the "Dean's been around and knows more than me about everything" business.

:D

VeeJay
3/22/2007, 03:58 PM
I'll have a pelt or two, please.

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 04:04 PM
...bucked teeth, crossed eyes, and big ol' pus filled sores all over them...

Awww. That takes me back to last weekend's "date night" with Czar... cue the schmaltzy music. Sorry guys! Also reminds me I need to clean the out the grease trap on the disposal.

C&CDean
3/22/2007, 04:28 PM
Awww. That takes me back to last weekend's "date night" with Czar... cue the schmaltzy music. Sorry guys! Also reminds me I need to clean the out the grease trap on the disposal.

Y'all need to start killing white hookers. White meat has a lot less grease.

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 04:39 PM
Yeah, but when I harvest the organs for future use, there's less risk of rejection. Also, the DIY collagen injections I've been trying out have made my skin silky smooth.

C&CDean
3/22/2007, 04:55 PM
"Honey, your skin is so smoove you feel like a corpse." "Why thanks. I've been using the DIY collagen injections and they're working." "c'mere you....."

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 05:30 PM
And what's really cool is that the hookers usually come with their own needles, so I don't have to jump through any of that bureaucratic red tape down at the Walgreens when I need some syringes for the injections. It's a win-win.

Viking Kitten
3/22/2007, 05:33 PM
Except for the hookers, I mean. It's a win-win for me and Czar.

BigRedJed
3/22/2007, 05:48 PM
IBTOCPD

SoonerStormchaser
3/22/2007, 05:51 PM
WTF?

BigRedJed
3/22/2007, 05:54 PM
IBTOSBI.

SoonerStormchaser
3/22/2007, 05:55 PM
Hall & Oates?

12
3/22/2007, 05:59 PM
http://userpic.livejournal.com/50818070/9878405

Czar Soonerov
3/22/2007, 06:13 PM
IBTVV (http://www.videovigilante.com/)

MamaMia
3/22/2007, 06:15 PM
When I lived in Alaska on the Aleutian chain, I had a pet seal. He was a baby when I found him on the beach. He had pneumonia. I nursed him back to health with penicillin I got from the town nurse. She helped me of course since I was only 10 years old. I named him Cedric. We were great pals.

A year later I donated him to the San Diego zoo. I got to fly along with him when we took him in the Flying Tiger cargo plane. I got to visit him 3 years later. He remembered the dancing trick I taught him.

OCUDad
3/22/2007, 08:23 PM
Old Canadian stand-up joke:

"A baby seal walks into a club..."

(rimshot...)

MamaMia
3/22/2007, 08:51 PM
I'm sorry you had to read all this, Mom. ;)
Now, please tell us how you get tap shoes on a flipper.Oh, not to worry dear one. By now I'm plenty use to the widespread comic dementia I encounter upon occasion. And anyway, I'm good at just glancing over stuff and not giving it a moments concern. However, I must march to the beat of my own drum by refusing to allow the otherwise peculiarities of others keep me from contributing. :)

OCUDad
3/23/2007, 04:20 PM
Oh, not to worry dear one. By now I'm plenty use to the widespread comic dementia I encounter upon occasion. And anyway, I'm good at just glancing over stuff and not giving it a moments concern. However, I must march to the beat of my own drum by refusing to allow the otherwise peculiarities of others keep me from contributing. :)Nice retort. Consider the back of your neck kissed. :D

C&CDean
3/23/2007, 04:25 PM
Nice retort. Consider the back of your neck kissed. :D

Crap. Now we have to think about mom having sex again.

sooneron
3/23/2007, 04:35 PM
Some hunters fear the activists will succeed and kill off a centuries-old way of life.
Hey dumbasses, you should meet the guy that was making buggy whips.

BigRedJed
3/23/2007, 04:37 PM
IBTVV (http://www.videovigilante.com/)
Saw him at lunch today. He was having lunch with two teenage kids. I assume they were his children, but of course with him you shouldn't assume such things.

Viking Kitten
3/23/2007, 04:41 PM
Was he having a tossed salad for lunch?

BigRedJed
3/23/2007, 04:46 PM
Badumbump!

Viking Kitten
3/23/2007, 04:48 PM
That all you got, boy? :D

BigRedJed
3/23/2007, 04:49 PM
CRRRRAASSSSHHHHH!!!

BigRedJed
3/23/2007, 04:50 PM
That all you got, boy? :D
Oh, wait a minute... ...were you planning on posting that in the Bikerfox thread?

Viking Kitten
3/23/2007, 04:57 PM
No.

MamaMia
3/23/2007, 11:43 PM
Crap. Now we have to think about mom having sex again.
Don't you mean again and again? Afterall, I'am in my prime. I think the young sexy men in town can sense it somehow. I've had two of them wink at me this week. :P

12
3/24/2007, 05:43 AM
http://www.videovigilante.com/images/mugs-johns/Saxton-Foster-90.jpg

Dad?

12
3/24/2007, 05:51 AM
A hooker without a clean needle is like a bowling ball without a liquid center.