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Hatfield
3/6/2007, 02:27 PM
personally i don't like it and curious what others think.

yermom
3/6/2007, 02:28 PM
how about a tattoo on their forehead?

Hatfield
3/6/2007, 02:30 PM
should we then tatoo all other felons?

crawfish
3/6/2007, 02:30 PM
I don't like it because there are plenty of "sex offenders" out there who aren't dangerous. Like the 18-year-old kid in my neighbor who found himself a convicted sex offender because his 16-year-old gf's parents wanted him out of her life.

I would kill someone who molested my kids with my bare hands if I found out...however, I still think societal paranoia is going too far with this.

Hatfield
3/6/2007, 02:31 PM
pee outside on a building due to intoxication and you are a sex offender.

XingTheRubicon
3/6/2007, 02:34 PM
especially if that building is kindergarten

skycat
3/6/2007, 02:34 PM
There are just too many people getting a stigma attached to them for doing things that fall into the "young, stupid, and mostly harmless" category for me to be comfortable with any of this.

Boomer.....
3/6/2007, 02:35 PM
pee outside on a building due to intoxication and you are a sex offender.
That is what makes me upset. There needs to be two different categories of sexual offenders. One for the actual criminals and another for drunk asses or people who do something stupid like peeing in public. I heard that a new law might be in the works.

Hatfield
3/6/2007, 02:35 PM
good to see some levelheadedness in here.

batonrougesooner
3/6/2007, 02:37 PM
how about a tattoo on their forehead?

Why not a scarlet letter?

usmc-sooner
3/6/2007, 02:38 PM
child molesters and rapists they can do with them whatever they want

However the public urination, and the situations like crawfish described I'm not for putting them on sex offender list.

slickdawg
3/6/2007, 02:38 PM
is there something 1TC isn't telling us about his DL thing the other night?

yermom
3/6/2007, 02:39 PM
should we then tatoo all other felons?

yes. ;)

i have mixed feelings on the whole convicted felon thing, on one hand they did their time, on the other, how do you trust them?


a stamp on the DL seems a bit much, i mean they are already in the databases or whatever, what good does they DL thing do? so now the waiter at Friday's knows you are a sex offender, now what?

it's not like you go checking some dude's ID that is walking down the street

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 02:39 PM
hatfield - why dont you like the idea?

usmc-sooner
3/6/2007, 02:43 PM
do people normally show you their drivers license and then rape you?

sooneron
3/6/2007, 02:49 PM
The only people that will see them are traffic cops and bouncers. I don't really see that as doing any good one way or the other. A flashing child molester sign on you car, now that would have some zazz!

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 02:51 PM
apartment managers and landlords would see it, and i'm sure thats part of the point...

BigRedJed
3/6/2007, 02:52 PM
I think the definition of "sex offender" needs to be changed, and then I would be all for it. The problem we have right now is that if two consenting adults are busted, say, getting horizontal at Inspiration Point, they can be charged with public indecency and would then be registered sex offenders, indistinguishable from child molesters, etc.

There are a host of offenses (many of which you or I might view as mostly harmless or embarrassing indiscretions), which can label someone as a sex offender and cause problems in finding housing, jobs, etc. I think most of those laws are well meaning, but poorly executed to some extent.

Also because of this, some people are let off entirely, people who probably should be punished in some way, because arresting officers don't want to ruin somebody's life just for showing really, really poor judgment.

An example: some of my employees witnessed a drunk couple getting it on out in the open in a really dark but really, really public area of downtown. We called the cops, and along with some bystanders were willing to make statements to the responding officers. One of the bystanders (a woman) even walked up to them and took pictures while they were in the act, which she then provided the cops. The couple was so drunk they didn't even realize she was taking pictures, flash and all. They even tried to deny being in the act, until the lady showed her snaps to the cops.

I figured they would just get some sort of ticket or something. I really, really don't want my customers to be exposed to that type of thing, and I wanted the couple to never want to come back. But the cops actually talked us out of having them arrested. They told us that if they arrested them for lewdness, indecent exposure or the like, they would then be registered sex offenders and their lives would be changed forever. None of us wanted that on our conscience, so we agreed with the cops that the best thing was to haul them to the drunk tank.

Pretty tasteless behavior, but hardly in the same league as child molestation.

KC//CRIMSON
3/6/2007, 02:55 PM
The only people that will see them are traffic cops and bouncers. I don't really see that as doing any good one way or the other. A flashing child molester sign on you car, now that would have some zazz!

Employers see them too.........

BigRedJed
3/6/2007, 02:55 PM
In the time it took me to type that, I see a lot of other posts that echo what I was talking about. The definition of "sex offender" is too broad, based on current laws. Now, child molesters and rapists... ...yeah, tattoo their foreheads for all I care.

sooneron
3/6/2007, 02:56 PM
Employers see them too.........
When? MOst employers are lazy if they are hiring some dude with a 'merican accent. The guy can just say that he forgot his license and tell them the info on it.

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 02:57 PM
i'd like to see an example of peeing on a wall outdoors resulting in the registration as a sex offender

Hatfield
3/6/2007, 02:59 PM
hatfield - why dont you like the idea?

some reasons (and I also question the constitutionality of it)

1. we don't single out any other felon

2. if the prison system supposedly rehabilitates you from your crime why make them continue to be branded in such a manner. Is this a return to the damn scarlet letter?

3. stated purpose is to protect the young and elderly????

4. also so employers know they are about to hire a sex offender....all the while ignoring the fact that the I-9 form allows for other means of identification than just the dl

5. i also feel it is just a play at getting re-elected by showing how tough you are on sex crimes to protect the elderly and young by proposing something that is not really going to be as effective as advertised.

BigRedJed
3/6/2007, 03:00 PM
Well, in Oklahoma, if they prosecute the peeing on a wall thing with an indecent exposure charge, you go on the sex offender list. What they would normally try to get you for to avoid that would be public intox. I think the point is that there should be another, less severe charge for that type of indecent exposure. Something more along the lines of a ticket.

Czar Soonerov
3/6/2007, 03:00 PM
pee outside on a building due to intoxication and you are a sex offender.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060210/060210_sutton_vmed7p.widec.jpg

KC//CRIMSON
3/6/2007, 03:01 PM
When? MOst employers are lazy if they are hiring some dude with a 'merican accent. The guy can just say that he forgot his license and tell them the info on it.


With any respectable business or company you will have to show some sort of ID. I've had to show my drivers license and social security card for every job I've ever had. Everyone has to fill out an I-9 report.

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 03:02 PM
Well, in Oklahoma, if they prosecute the peeing on a wall thing with an indecent exposure charge, you go on the sex offender list. What they would normally try to get you for to avoid that would be public intox. I think the point is that there should be another, less severe charge for that type of indecent exposure. Something more along the lines of a ticket.

i'm pretty sure the elements of proof for indecent exposure are alot different than public intox.....i'd have to see the statute, but i'd bet there's an element in there that draws a line between the two

sexual offenders CANT be rehabilitated......not without alot of shock therapy or castration

they are repeat offenders...its in their genetics so to speak, so the question is, do you want to just throw every sex offender in jail for life, or do you want to protect the public from them once they're out?

BigRedJed
3/6/2007, 03:03 PM
Every single employee that I hire has to provide a DL. I also require a current driving record. But if they are a sex offender, I'll find that out anyway when I do a criminal background check.

Hatfield
3/6/2007, 03:03 PM
I-9 allows for other identification than just driver's license so that is an easy way around showing your driver's license with a tiny penis stamp on it.

sooneron
3/6/2007, 03:04 PM
With any respectable business or company you will have to show some sort of ID. I've had to show my drivers license and social security card for every job I've ever had. Everyone has to fill out an I-9 report.
I've worked for plenty of respectable companies (dozens to a hundred as I'm freelance) and I have actually produced documentation/id about 15 times.
And this includes various stints with Viacom subsidiaries.

JohnnyMack
3/6/2007, 03:06 PM
:les:BUILD A BRIDGE OUT OF 'EM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigRedJed
3/6/2007, 03:06 PM
i'm pretty sure the elements of proof for indecent exposure are alot different than public intox.....i'd have to see the statute, but i'd bet there's an element in there that draws a line between the two...
Well, some of the people I've heard complain about this problem are cops. They feel kind of hamstrung, caught between letting people off to lightly or ruining their lives for something that doesn't fit most reasonable people's definition of "sex offender."

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 03:14 PM
there's an easy fix to that problem, its called common sense

the other easy fix is a good District Attorney

if a beat cop isnt smart enough to ascertain the difference from indecent exposure and public intox, then we have another problem

Octavian
3/6/2007, 03:16 PM
An example: some of my employees witnessed a drunk couple getting it on out in the open in a really dark but really, really public area of downtown. We called the cops, and along with some bystanders were willing to make statements to the responding officers. One of the bystanders (a woman) even walked up to them and took pictures while they were in the act, which she then provided the cops....


jeebus...that story makes me miss Europe :(


:D

skycat
3/6/2007, 03:34 PM
there's an easy fix to that problem, its called common sense

the other easy fix is a good District Attorney

if a beat cop isnt smart enough to ascertain the difference from indecent exposure and public intox, then we have another problem

99.97:mad:




;)

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 03:38 PM
heh

indecent exposure has an "intent" element.......whereas public intox does not

i suppose there are those times when sober men are peeing on a wall, no idea what statute exists to cover that, but if you're up against a wall......who the hell can see you? who is the victim?

BigRedJed
3/6/2007, 03:39 PM
there's an easy fix to that problem, its called common sense

the other easy fix is a good District Attorney

if a beat cop isnt smart enough to ascertain the difference from indecent exposure and public intox, then we have another problem
Yeah, but what if the offender isn't drunk? Or what happens if someone gets busted getting it on with their lady in a car on a deserted lane? Or the aforementioned 18 year old boyfriend having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend? Do any of these people deserve to be branded as sex offenders for life? Because enforcing the appropriate law, as written, would do that.

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 03:43 PM
Yeah, but what if the offender isn't drunk? Or what happens if someone gets busted getting it on with their lady in a car on a deserted lane? Or the aforementioned 18 year old boyfriend having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend? Do any of these people deserve to be branded as sex offenders for life? Because enforcing the appropriate law, as written, would do that.

18 and 17 does not a sex offender make, MOST states have a 3 year age difference.....some states its 4 years, but there has to be one underaged and at least a 3 year age difference...so the 18 and 17 year old bumping uglies out on the deserted lane are normally going to not be charged with "indecent exposure" because again....who did they intend to expose themselves too?

i'd have to see the actual statute, they vary from state to state

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 03:49 PM
Oklahoma Statutes, Chapter 39: Section 1021 - Indecent Exposure - Indecent Exhibitions - Obscene or Indecent Writings, Pictures, Etc. - Solicitation of Minors


A. Every person who willfully and knowingly either:

1. Lewdly exposes his person or genitals in any public place, or in any place where there are present other persons to be offended or annoyed thereby;

2. Procures, counsels, or assists any person to expose such person, or to make any other exhibition of such person to public view or to the view of any number of persons, for the purpose of sexual stimulation of the viewer;

3. Writes, composes, stereotypes, prints, photographs, designs, copies, draws, engraves, paints, molds, cuts, or otherwise prepares, publishes, sells, distributes, keeps for sale, knowingly downloads on a computer, or exhibits any obscene material or child pornography; or

4. Makes, prepares, cuts, sells, gives, loans, distributes, keeps for sale, or exhibits any disc record, metal, plastic, or wax, wire or tape recording, or any type of obscene material or child pornography,

shall be guilty, upon conviction, of a felony and shall be punished by the imposition of a fine of not less than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) nor more than Twenty Thousand Dollars ($20,000.00) or by imprisonment for not less than thirty (30) days nor more than ten (10) years, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

thats the quickest statute find i can get, i'm sure thats not all there is.....but the word "lewdly" - not sure if that definition includes urination against a wall or not......maybe one of the lawyers could further expound

olevetonahill
3/6/2007, 03:51 PM
For the most part I think if somebody is so drunk stoned etc that they pisz in public , or do the deed , where some one can see em . they deserve to be labled .
Oh and to hell with the DL I like the Tag thing better .

Hatfield
3/6/2007, 03:51 PM
there's an easy fix to that problem, its called common sense

the other easy fix is a good District Attorney

if a beat cop isnt smart enough to ascertain the difference from indecent exposure and public intox, then we have another problem

what??

penis outside pants = indecent exposure

drunk in pubLIC = public intox.

drunk in public with penis outside pants propped up against a wall takin care of business = public intox and indecent exposure.

why are you acting like they are an either or situation/

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 03:54 PM
because generally speaking "indecent exposure" is a specific intent crime......which peeing against a wall doesnt fit

can you give me an example of somebody peeing against the wall being a registered sex offender?

olevetonahill
3/6/2007, 03:58 PM
This reminds me of when I was cop .
I saw this guy stumbling down the street , just outside a bar , he had key in hand . I said what the hell are you doing ? he said Im loooking for my truck . I said where was your truck when you saw it last ? he said at the end Of my key . Bout this time I look down and his whacker is hanging out . I go Dude do you realise your Hanging out ur pants ? drunk looks down
Says sombitch they stole My GF to .

Hatfield
3/6/2007, 04:11 PM
because generally speaking "indecent exposure" is a specific intent crime......which peeing against a wall doesnt fit

can you give me an example of somebody peeing against the wall being a registered sex offender?

knowingly and willfully(....no real intent requirement other than you know what you are doing.....) lewdly put your twig and berries out in a public place... and i am sure an arguement is going to be made that any time you expose yourself in a public place unless for some artistic blah blah it is going to be lewdly...

just saying...seems if you willfully expose yourself and know you are exposing yourself regardless of the reason why you are in violation of the statute.

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 04:17 PM
i'm still waiting on an actual live example

Czar Soonerov
3/6/2007, 04:27 PM
What abour peeing on some chick's carpet? We should put a sex offender id on 1TC's avatar.

OULOVE
3/6/2007, 05:07 PM
Would a woman exposing her bewbs in public land her on the sex offenders list?

Hatfield
3/6/2007, 05:17 PM
was she breast feeding? if so probably not.

for other reasons maybe.

sanantoniosooner
3/6/2007, 05:18 PM
Should Ben Stiller be a sex offender based on several bathroom scenes in "Something About Mary"?

JohnnyMack
3/6/2007, 05:20 PM
I think pulling it out and flogging the dolphin in public would be indecent exposure.

I think pulling it out and peeing against a building would be more along the lines of outraging public decency. No?

sanantoniosooner
3/6/2007, 05:22 PM
What about the teabag in the zipper?

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 05:22 PM
jm gets it.....

yermom
3/6/2007, 05:23 PM
yeah, if the cop doesn't feel like being an *** at that moment

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 05:25 PM
arrest is one thing, conviction another

DustySooner
3/6/2007, 05:26 PM
If you can't pee on a building then I guess this is out of the question now:

"We're going streaking through the quad and into the gymnasium. C'mon Snoop! ....Snoop'a'loop!"

Hatfield
3/6/2007, 05:26 PM
comes down to what is "lewdly" displaying your junk means

Pricetag
3/6/2007, 05:30 PM
sexual offenders CANT be rehabilitated......not without alot of shock therapy or castration

they are repeat offenders...its in their genetics so to speak, so the question is, do you want to just throw every sex offender in jail for life, or do you want to protect the public from them once they're out?
As far as the genetics go, can the same not be said for alcoholics and other addicts? This is behavior that they have a strong predispostion for, but that they can keep from doing with the proper will and support.

Can this same thing be applied to sex offenders? I don't know. But if a single one can resist the temptation, then we can't brand them all for life.

If we are to brand them for life, then life in prison may be a more humane punishment, IMO.

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 05:34 PM
i think alcoholics have shown the ability to stop drinking and remain sober in sufficient numbers to preclude being compared to sex offenders

pedophiles on the other hand, with all the counseling in the world, will still be pedophiles

you might be able to remove their drive to offend (i.e. castration), but the actual thoughts themselves will remain

Pricetag
3/6/2007, 06:34 PM
I'd guess that alcoholism is a much more widespread condition, and one much, much easier to admit to to having. Hypothetically, there could be tons of non-practicing pedophiles, and we'd never know about it.

IMO, if we aren't comfortable letting people out of prison, we shouldn't let them out. Releasing them and then constantly breathing down their necks and sticking stamps or logos for everyone to see is cruel. I'm not saying this out of sympathy for them, but out of concern for us.

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 06:39 PM
Hypothetically, there could be tons of non-practicing pedophiles, and we'd never know about it.

its my belief that there are alot of them (non practicing)

Tulsa_Fireman
3/6/2007, 06:39 PM
IMO, if we aren't comfortable letting people out of prison, we shouldn't let them out. Releasing them and then constantly breathing down their necks and sticking stamps or logos for everyone to see is cruel. I'm not saying this out of sympathy for them, but out of concern for us.

Sh*ttin' truth.

Make the time fit the crime. And in the case of pedophilery (or however the heck you'd say that), be realistic. If you're a pedophile for life, remove them from society for life. Or like myself and the unlucky son of a b*tch that tries that with my daughter, remove him from society on a more permanent basis and rent out the room he reserved down in Big Mac. I'll hash out the whole vengeance part with the Lord when I see him.

H8HOGS
3/6/2007, 06:47 PM
Sex offender as in you are old as sh1t and the person is under 13 Death Penalty... If you are old as sh1t and the kid is 14-15 life in prison. After that case by case. There is a mom who's daughter is 15 and is pregnant by a 17 year old and she is labeled as a sex offender because she let the boy move in with them???

Most don't realize that if you are a person and turn 18 and your boyfriend/girlfriend is still 17 and you have sex that is statutory rape in most states. Is that right?? I don't think so.

jrsooner
3/6/2007, 06:56 PM
Or the aforementioned 18 year old boyfriend having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend? Do any of these people deserve to be branded as sex offenders for life? Because enforcing the appropriate law, as written, would do that.I once sat on a jury here in Houston, an 18 year old kid, parents owned a Sonic (so he was considered "mgt"), he was aiding a 12 year old girl to sneak out of her house at night to take back to his trailer to do "woopie", while her 9 year old kid brother walked around the park at night while she was in the trailer. We had jury members that refused to convict him despite all the evidence (including a hand written "confession" of the acts by the kid) that was presented because of the "sex offender" rap. I was so TICKED off! If you break the law and get caught - you do the punishment. Plain and simple. The other members were saying... all the kids are doing it, he's just a kid, look at the girl she's a slut, etc. Despite whether we agree with it or not.. it's the law. If we don't like it then get the law changed.

The funny part was the fathers of sons on the jury was all for busting the kid, and the father's of daughters was wanting the kid to be let off.

jrsooner
3/6/2007, 06:59 PM
i'd like to see an example of peeing on a wall outdoors resulting in the registration as a sex offenderNo officer I was just peeing on the sidewalk. :)
http://www.lottaliving.com/tvshow/PeeWeeHerman.jpg

BigRedJed
3/6/2007, 07:01 PM
I once sat on a jury here in Houston, an 18 year old kid, parents owned a Sonic (so he was considered "mgt"), he was aiding a 12 year old girl to sneak out of her house at night to take back to his trailer to do "woopie", while her 9 year old kid brother walked around the park at night while she was in the trailer. We had jury members that refused to convict him despite all the evidence (including a hand written "confession" of the acts by the kid) that was presented because of the "sex offender" rap. I was so TICKED off! If you break the law and get caught - you do the punishment. Plain and simple. The other members were saying... all the kids are doing it, he's just a kid, look at the girl she's a slut, etc. Despite whether we agree with it or not.. it's the law. If we don't like it then get the law changed.

The funny part was the fathers of sons on the jury was all for busting the kid, and the father's of daughters was wanting the kid to be let off.
OK, an 18 year old basically raping a 12 year old is completely different than an 18 year old BF sleeping with his 17 year old GF. I can't believe that someone wouldn't see these two things as different.

If they are treated the same way under the law, there's something wrong with the law. As parents, you may not like the idea of your 17 year old daughter sleeping with her 18 year old BF, but that's more of a parenting problem than a criminal one.

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 07:03 PM
Most don't realize that if you are a person and turn 18 and your boyfriend/girlfriend is still 17 and you have sex that is statutory rape in most states. Is that right?? I don't think so.

no, thats not right, there is a 3 year age difference in most states....meaning the offender would have to be at least 3 years older than the victim

jrsooner
3/6/2007, 07:07 PM
If they are treated the same way under the law, there's something wrong with the law. As parents, you may not like the idea of your 17 year old daughter sleeping with her 18 year old BF, but that's more of a parenting problem than a criminal one.My point is, as long as it's the law whether you like it or not... it's a criminal act. Yes, I agree, it's a parenting problem, but it's still a law problem until the law is changed.

Vaevictis
3/6/2007, 07:14 PM
Despite whether we agree with it or not.. it's the law. If we don't like it then get the law changed.

Kind of tangent, and not that I'd exercise it here, but some people think that nullification is a right of the jury.

BigRedJed
3/6/2007, 07:22 PM
My point is, as long as it's the law whether you like it or not... it's a criminal act. Yes, I agree, it's a parenting problem, but it's still a law problem until the law is changed.
Well, I'm not sure we're disagreeing here. What I'm saying is that the law shouldn't treat the two situations the same. I'm not speaking to a jury's responsibility to uphold the law.

usmc-sooner
3/6/2007, 07:23 PM
no, thats not right, there is a 3 year age difference in most states....meaning the offender would have to be at least 3 years older than the victim

also correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the age of consent somewhere between 16 and as low as 14 or 15 in some states.

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 07:30 PM
also correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the age of consent somewhere between 16 and as low as 14 or 15 in some states.

yes!

Jerk
3/6/2007, 07:58 PM
i'd like to see an example of peeing on a wall outdoors resulting in the registration as a sex offender

This really happened. I don't have a link or the story, but I know it was down in Florida or Georgia, one of the two. It occurred when the guy was drinking beer and fishing at a park. Cops we're trying to bust people for public intox or something and locked the bathroom doors. Fisherman dude consumes a bunch of beer and needs to go pee real bad (we've all be there, right?) and can't get into the bathroom, so finds a spot outside...busted, whammo...his life is ruined. Unless Neal Bortz is a complete liar and just made that whole thing up.

Jerk
3/6/2007, 08:02 PM
I think the age of consent should have some sort of rule to it that a person can't be charged for sex with a minor if the age difference between the two is less than 2 or 3 years. That way, you can avoid having a 19 year old man's life ruined for sleeping with his 17 year old G/f.

H8HOGS
3/6/2007, 08:02 PM
no, thats not right, there is a 3 year age difference in most states....meaning the offender would have to be at least 3 years older than the victim


Not true in all states.. And for the PEEING on a wall outside yes in some states that is exposing yourself in public which makes you a sexual predator..
There are so many variables to this you can't imagine and every state has different laws

jk the sooner fan
3/6/2007, 09:00 PM
right,i didnt say "all states", i said "most states"

royalfan5
3/6/2007, 09:17 PM
as a short aside in this thread. The Lincoln Police Department tends to give littering tickets for public urination rather than a public urination ticket.

Ardmore_Sooner
3/6/2007, 09:30 PM
pee outside on a building due to intoxication and you are a sex offender.

Eddie Sutton is a sex offender?
:eddie:

olevetonahill
3/7/2007, 03:11 AM
Sex offender as in you are old as sh1t and the person is under 13 Death Penalty... If you are old as sh1t and the kid is 14-15 life in prison. After that case by case. There is a mom who's daughter is 15 and is pregnant by a 17 year old and she is labeled as a sex offender because she let the boy move in with them???

Most don't realize that if you are a person and turn 18 and your boyfriend/girlfriend is still 17 and you have sex that is statutory rape in most states. Is that right?? I don't think so.
Ok Hog porker
Heres a Hypothectical .
an Old as dirt dude drinks, Gets drunk , another dude brings a Hot chick and they share her .
whats his crime ?
she was willing,the dude that brought her was 21
Next morning the old as dirt dude finds out she was 14 !
Wheres the crime here ?

Frozen Sooner
3/7/2007, 03:28 AM
right,i didnt say "all states", i said "most states"

Dude, what do you know? It's not like you've worked law enforcement in several states where this kind of behavior might come up pretty often or anything.

jk the sooner fan
3/7/2007, 06:45 AM
Dude, what do you know? It's not like you've worked law enforcement in several states where this kind of behavior might come up pretty often or anything.

;)

so true, and believe me........young soldiers have a habit of bringing "young" girls into the barracks

Frozen Sooner
3/7/2007, 11:21 AM
Oh, I know. I had to give a family member of mine (who's enlisted) a lecture about this once.

Him, I'd buy beer for. I figure if he's about to go dodge bullets in Mosul I can cut him some slack. The teeny-boppers he and his crew picked up at the underage bar? Not so much.

yermom
3/7/2007, 11:27 AM
Ok Hog porker
Heres a Hypothectical .
an Old as dirt dude drinks, Gets drunk , another dude brings a Hot chick and they share her .
whats his crime ?
she was willing,the dude that brought her was 21
Next morning the old as dirt dude finds out she was 14 !
Wheres the crime here ?

dude, i'm thinking you should have pled the 5th at some point in this story :eek:

BigRedJed
3/7/2007, 11:38 AM
Ok Hog porker
Heres a Hypothectical .
an Old as dirt dude drinks, Gets drunk , another dude brings a Hot chick and they share her .
whats his crime ?
she was willing,the dude that brought her was 21
Next morning the old as dirt dude finds out she was 14 !
Wheres the crime here ?
Upon further review:

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usmc-sooner
3/7/2007, 11:49 AM
Ok Hog porker
Heres a Hypothectical .
an Old as dirt dude drinks, Gets drunk , another dude brings a Hot chick and they share her .
whats his crime ?
she was willing,the dude that brought her was 21
Next morning the old as dirt dude finds out she was 14 !
Wheres the crime here ?

it's **** like this that makes me hold my head up high and say you damn right I'm a Oklahoman, --Western Oklahoman. West side, you East Okies is crazy. :D :D :D

olevetonahill
3/7/2007, 01:35 PM
it's **** like this that makes me hold my head up high and say you damn right I'm a Oklahoman, --Western Oklahoman. West side, you East Okies is crazy. :D :D :D
Hey it wasnt me
It was a hypothetical type siteation .

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
3/7/2007, 02:03 PM
I don't think it's a good idea. As has been mentioned, there are other crimes that aren't included. To me, if someone were to receive a DUI stamp on their driver's license it would make more sense, but I'm not for that either.

I know someone who is a convicted sex offender. I'm not going into details except to say there was no sexual activity alleged and the age difference was only about 6 years.

Because I've known him all my life and I know what all he has gone through, and I know details of the case, I wonder what sets a "sex offender" apart from other felons. It looks to me like if they were going to follow through on this, then they should put a stamp on any felon's driver's license (murderer, multiple DUI, assault, drug, etc.).

KABOOKIE
3/7/2007, 03:50 PM
3. Writes, composes, stereotypes, prints, photographs, designs, copies, draws, engraves, paints, molds, cuts, or otherwise prepares, publishes, sells, distributes, keeps for sale, knowingly downloads on a computer, or exhibits any obscene material or child pornography; or

I'm sure those "common sense" 99.97% cops could charge everyone here for just writing about child pron.