***OFFICIAL OU AT MIZZOU GAME THREAD***

[tommieharris91]

Game on FSN 37 in OKC.

[tommieharris91]

Starters:
Longar
Carter
Maze
Neal
Godbold

I missed the Mizzou starters.

[King Crimson]

not on in Denver, to my knowledge.

i don't like the way we matchup with Mizzou. the way we handle the ball (poorly) and turn it over (a lot) could make for a long night against MU's style.

Maze starting.

[tommieharris91]

2-0 Mizzou. Shot over Longar.

[tommieharris91]

3-2. Neal drains a 3.
5-3 Mizzou. Matt Lawrence answers. Longar has a shot blocked.

[King Crimson]

3 OU possessions, a made 3 by Neal and two shot attempts, no rim or block.

5-3 MU

[tommieharris91]

Every shot Mizzou has had tonight except their first has been an open look.

[King Crimson]

Neal again. 6-5 OU

[tommieharris91]

Neal with another 3.

[Newbomb Turk]

tommieharris91 steppin up to the plate tonight! :)

7-6 mu
16:06

[tommieharris91]

I'm feelin Kinda lonely here.

8-7 OU. They is cold.

[lauderdalesooner]

Nice start for Neal

[King Crimson]

a lot of substitutions for us so far, interesting (do we win playing their style?). have to stop Grimes in the paint.

[tommieharris91]

My score is right, not what FSN just showed.

[Newbomb Turk]

I'm feelin Kinda lonely here.


that's OU basketball. :(

If it were a football scrimage, there would be 100+ logged on.

[Newbomb Turk]

Neal hits two from the line.

10-7 OU
14:48

[King Crimson]

yahoo box score only has us with 4 guys on the floor. nice hustle by our guys. :D

[tommieharris91]

Neal has 8 now

10-8 Sooners after the short break.

[tommieharris91]

that's OU basketball. :(

If it were a football scrimage, there would be 100+ logged on.

I love how fans of another team can bus their fans in from 450 or so miles away to one of our home games.

[soonersweetie]

thanks for the updates, I'm stuck at work for a bit here on the west coast :(

Go Sooners!!!

[Newbomb Turk]

We look a little bit more agressive on defense so far.

Neal shoots another 3 - misses but OU ball out of bounds.

Lob down low to L2, he is fouled on the missed shot.
Makes both from the line.

12-7 OU
14:04

[lauderdalesooner]

Longar needs to step up while Grimes in on the bench

[tommieharris91]

12-7 now after Longars 2 makes at the line.

[King Crimson]

Longar, my man.

[Newbomb Turk]

MU airball (or close to it)

12-7 OU
12:12
OU ball

[Newbomb Turk]

been away for a bit.
12-9 OU
11:37
timeout.

[tommieharris91]

Their fans are as loud as our fans, and there ain't many of them

[tommieharris91]

Rebounds:
OU 10
MU 5

[LittleWingSooner]

This is just bad basketball. We should be beating this team easily right now.

[tommieharris91]

Certer gets a 2. 14-9 Sooners.

[Newbomb Turk]

MU makes 1 of 2 from the line.

14-10 OU
10:40

[King Crimson]

putting seconds back on the shot clock. we lost last time in Columbia on added seconds on the shot clock--one of their guy hits a 3 as teh buzzer sounds in the last few seconds.

and a foul on Longar.....there are some free points for MU.

[LittleWingSooner]

16-10 OU

[Newbomb Turk]

Mizzou is a really careless team - reminds me of them under Mr. GQ.

L2 rebounds his own miss and scores.

16-10 OU
9:35

[tommieharris91]

Longar follows his own miss with a make.

16-10 OU

[tommieharris91]

Mizzou is a really careless team - reminds me of them under Mr. GQ.

They are overthrowing passes like crazy. Missing a lot of shots, too.

Until that one.

[LittleWingSooner]

16-13 OU.

[King Crimson]

"those are opportunities you have to cash in on"....says Houck for about the 5 or 6th time already.

[Newbomb Turk]

Offensive foul on Mizzou over the back.

We are really going to the bucket or taking shots early on offense.

Mizzou drives, scores and foul on Griffin.
3-point play.
16-13 OU
9:10

[LittleWingSooner]

Neal answers with a jumper. 18-13 OU.

[Newbomb Turk]

Neal with a turnaround.

18-13 OU

[tommieharris91]

Mizzou is shooting 29% tonight.

18-13 OU 8:28

[tommieharris91]

No fundamentals for Mizzou.

[Newbomb Turk]

We have been lucky on several occasions tonight.

We are due for that.

L2 with a short jumper.
20-13 OU

MU for 3
20-16 OU
7:46
timeout

[tommieharris91]

Matt Lawrence (:confused:) answers Longar's shot with a 3.

20-16 OU

[tommieharris91]

Nice anti-abortion ad. Missouri is a grey state, maybe?

[Newbomb Turk]

We are strugging just a bit with the full court pressure from mizzou.

Carter with a baseline jumper.
22-16 OU
7:10

[lauderdalesooner]

Mizzou is shooting a poor %, playing sloppy, has no fundamentals and yet we only lead by 4 - story of OU Basketball in 2007

[colleyvillesooner]

We are strugging just a bit with the full court pressure from anyone.


Fixed.

[Newbomb Turk]

WTF - I go away for a couple minutes, and come back to a two point lead?!

22-20 OU

Neal with a bad shot.

[Newbomb Turk]

23-22 MU
5:45

How the hell is Nate Carter not fouled

[sooner518]

im guessing this isnt showing in Boise, where I have to stay the next 2 nights.

and yes, I am seriously contemplating taking a **** on the blue field

[tommieharris91]

Ouch. 13-2 Mizzou run.

26-22 MU

[Newbomb Turk]

AI at 7:00 is looking pretty good right now.

[tommieharris91]

We can't shoot no more.

[LittleWingSooner]

Full court press isn't hurting us much. We just can't do anything in the half court the last few minutes.

[tommieharris91]

I'm hearing lotsa clank from OU. It's like watching a Kelvin sampson offense.

[Newbomb Turk]

we have to find a way to make them pay for the full court pressure.

seriously - we are a horrible ball handling team.

28-22 MU

[LittleWingSooner]

I'm hearing lotsa clank from OU. It's like watching a Kelvin sampson offense.


I wish we had a Kelvin Sampson offense. This offense isn't very effecient.

[tommieharris91]

That doesn't seem to be as bad as missing open looks in the half-court O.

[Newbomb Turk]

L2 with one from the line.

28-23 MU
3:00

[SleestakSooner]

awww crap! I am sure the Cox schedule had this game coming on air at 7pm!

In!

[Newbomb Turk]

Godbold fouled and makes one.

28-24 MU
2:15

[SleestakSooner]

Urgh! Walker walks... a lot

[Newbomb Turk]

Well, I'm probably a bad fan, but I'm going to pencil in a loss for us here.

I'm off to watch AI.

[tommieharris91]

Well, matchup zone ain't workin.

[SleestakSooner]

man those tigers are fast... I hope the Sooners wear them out soon

[Collier11]

we are def. soft on the inside and mizzou isnt even that good of a inside team

[King Crimson]

what is this about a 16 or 17-3 run by MU?

[King Crimson]

down 11. ****.

[SleestakSooner]

nice steal and bucket to end the half

[tommieharris91]

Great finish for OU. Count the lay-up.

35-28 MU halftime.

[King Crimson]

wow, we sack up a little with 2 buckets......

[Collier11]

that ended a 22-4 run

[KC//CRIMSON]

he made that by the hair on his peaches.....

[okienole3]

We are not a very physical team. We get bumped and lose the ball.

[Collier11]

So what has happened to T. Griffin? This guy was a beast in HS and he just seems so passive now. Was he just not that good or what, he doesnt give us anything offensively

[SleestakSooner]

umm he's not in high school anymore?

[Collier11]

The point is that he is a soph. now and he was a highly recruited guy all around the country. Why is he not progressing? He has a nice shot but wont take it, he can jump and is strong but doesnt give us much rebound wise...whats the deal

[King Crimson]

Taylor has a flat shot....not sure what kind of legit range he REALLY has. he took two bad shots (selection-wise) against ATM. seems to play out of control to me.

[SleestakSooner]

it just looks like a lack of confidence and a ton of indecision. he needs a lot of work on fundamentals if you ask me. you are right he should be a rebounding machine

[King Crimson]

man, if we could anything out of Crocker. 2 quick fouls.....gotta get MU in double bonus for the last 6-7 minutes at home.....:rolleyes: ;)

(just in case we get back in this thing..)

[Collier11]

He has good touch from about 15 feet. And he should be doing alot more inside IMO

[SleestakSooner]

Neal could be a bit better at using screens, he would have many more open shots.

[birddog]

kc, youre not getting this one on tv, correct?

[SleestakSooner]

crazy... wind up with a garbage bucket for Griffin.

[King Crimson]

there's Taylor! ("OG&E power play of the game")

[King Crimson]

kc, youre not getting this one on tv, correct?

not on TV here.

Maze is unafraid.

[SleestakSooner]

OMG that was lucky
Hanna for MU puts Tigers back up by 4

[SleestakSooner]

Maze is taking it inside and creating stuff... don't know how but OU scores again and it's a two point game. MU timeout

[King Crimson]

we can't handle success. turn it over everytime we get within 2, or 4 with the ball.

[tommieharris91]

I'm back from the SO and it is 41-40 MU.

[SleestakSooner]

Neal makes a big 3 and OU takes the lead
Missouri comes right back and makes a layup

OU 40
MU 41

15:10

Neal at the line for two after the TV timeout

[SleestakSooner]

Looks like coach made a good adjustment at the half. The guards are pushing the ball inside.

[SleestakSooner]

Tigers are getting VERY lucky throwing up greatly contested shots inside the lane and the ball just bounces around the rim for a hlaf minute and falls in. Sooners will need to hit all of their free throws and open shots.

[King Crimson]

Sooners will need to hit all of their free throws .

two misses from Neal already.

Crocker sighting....

[SleestakSooner]

Crocker nails a 3 and gives OU another one point lead.

Then Griffin fouls Butterball. Non shooting foul.

[SleestakSooner]

Taylor looks AWFUL trying to dribble down the lane!

[birddog]

oh boy, lets pull this one out!!

lets show that jason sutherland!!

[King Crimson]

gawd, we blow a lot of opportunities.

[yermom]

i love Godbold, nice 3

[SleestakSooner]

4th foul on TG, see ya L2 back in

back and forth scoring and OU is down two agian

OU 47
MU 49

11:31

[SleestakSooner]

crap, Carter needs to take it to the freakin hoop!

[toast]

certainly not a clinic on good basketball, but our guys are playing hard

[King Crimson]

we're gonna have to get some easier looks (and make them) to win this game. MU's gonna be shooting FT's the last 10 minutes.

[SleestakSooner]

L2 picks up his 4th also

OU down one

[SleestakSooner]

Nate with a long two puts OU back up with 9 left

[King Crimson]

6 points on two trips for Mizzou, 2 more fouls for us. MU one foul from double bonus.

[King Crimson]

AJ with a 3. media TO

57-55 MU 7:45

[tommieharris91]

57-55 OU after a tree by AJ.

[GrapevineSooner]

Games not on here in DFW.

Bastards.

[SleestakSooner]

AJ for three and OU is back within two

under 8 minutes tv timeout

[tommieharris91]

NO calls for us on that possession.

[IronSooner]

We're 9-19 behind the arc. Wow.

[SleestakSooner]

craziness ensues. 3-4 missed shots on OUr end then a run out for two for MU puts them up

63-61 MU

[IronSooner]

I'm getting FullCourt next season. "Watching" games by hitting refresh to update the yahoo scoreboard sucks.

[King Crimson]

I'm getting FullCourt next season. "Watching" games by hitting refresh to update the yahoo scoreboard sucks.

radio call on the net:

http://www.reachingmore.com/kkgm.HTM

[King Crimson]

mizzou's fans boo every call that doesn't go their way.

[King Crimson]

godbold with a 3 64-63 OU 2:33

[SleestakSooner]

OU back up with another Godbold 3

under 2:00 left!

[KC//CRIMSON]

Godbold!

[IronSooner]

Is anyone even shooting from inside 3-point range? Honestly. This is nuts.

[SleestakSooner]

Hang on Sooners!
1:57

[birddog]

godbold's becoming a 3 point specialist for us.

[SleestakSooner]

Longar Longar out with a stupid foul 30 ft from the basket

[SleestakSooner]

Palindrome makes 1-1 :)

Tied up at 64

Neal fouled with 1:21 left going to the line for 1-1

[IronSooner]

About time we got into the bonus. I'm impressed we went that long before putting them in the double.

[King Crimson]

Is anyone even shooting from inside 3-point range? Honestly. This is nuts.

Houck said it's 8 of last 9 buckets

[SleestakSooner]

****! Neal misses game still tied

[King Crimson]

how can Neal miss that front end?

[birddog]

that figures.

d up time

[IronSooner]

Man we gotta pull this one out. I'm sick of watching OU and UIUC lose close games they could win.

[SleestakSooner]

MU scores two

39.2 seconds left

MU 66
OU 64

[King Crimson]

at least we made them score instead of putting them on the line

[SleestakSooner]

Griffin

[birddog]

damn. who do you give the ball to?

[yermom]

come on FTs....

[King Crimson]

Griffin to the line.......(crosses fingers).

[KC//CRIMSON]

****!

[IronSooner]

We have got to make a freethrow. Wow.



****.

[yermom]

damn

[birddog]

time?

[King Crimson]

****

[NormanPride]

Refs = $$$

[King Crimson]

here's where the double bonus kills us....

[IronSooner]

Losing games at the FT line is teh succ. Dammit.

[SleestakSooner]

Taylor at the line misses, grabs his own rebound, gets the ball to Neal, he misses, Griffin with the rebound, tries to go back up is fouled, no call ball out of bounds off TG's foot :(

MU goes down and makes two from the line

OU down 4 with 14 seconds left

[IronSooner]

Finally!

[KC//CRIMSON]

Looks like that dude ate his tuition....

[birddog]

man, tough loss.

would have been a good road win.

[King Crimson]

Losing games at the FT line is teh succ. Dammit.

nothing hurts more.

[IronSooner]

Well ****. Guess two FT makes in a row was too much to ask.

[KC//CRIMSON]

A.J.

Heh.

[IronSooner]

70-68


Wow...no giveup in this team. Agonizing last minute, but at least we're still kicking and scratching.

[SleestakSooner]

AJ for three makes it a two point game with 4 seconds left

[SleestakSooner]

3.3 left MU's Lawrence going to the line again. he makes both

[IronSooner]

And there it goes.............................................. .......****

[SleestakSooner]

Nice try guys, go practice your free throws please.

MU 72
OU 68

FINAL SCORE

[birddog]

after you all finish kicking your dogs can i get a recap of the last 4 secs?

[King Crimson]

ballgame.

gotta beat texas.....or we may be looking at losing out the last 6. certainly won't be favored in any of those games.

[King Crimson]

Neal makes those FT's at 64 all or whatever, we clearly have the advantage in the last minute.

dammit.

[Collier11]

Refs = $$$



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

We hit freethrows we win, the refs had nothing to do with it. Maybe if Griffin would keep the ball up or if we could hit a layup that would help also

[birddog]

neal just isnt as good as we thought he would be.

[toast]

encouraged by maze's play tonight and godbold's the last two games

[King Crimson]

encouraged by maze's play tonight and godbold's the last two games

agree.

[LittleWingSooner]

This is flat out the worst team we will lose to all year. Purdue and Nova were bad teams but this was a new low.

[King Crimson]

This is flat out the worst team we will lose to all year. Purdue and Nova were bad teams but this was a new low.

that is incorrect. Nova is a decent team. Mizzou has played pretty well of late and has a chance to finish 5th in the conference and their rpi gives them a MUCH better argument to be in the NCAA then we've had (they prolly won't make it, but still). we DID lose to ISU.

[LittleWingSooner]

Mizzou is flat out bad. ISU is a better team then this one.

[birddog]

mizzou is flat out bad and you thought we had a chance to make the tourney?

[LittleWingSooner]

I thought we would win this game easily tonight. And I guess we do win easily if we hit our free throws. But this isn't a game that should have been close. I don't know if we win a game the rest of this year right now.

[King Crimson]

mizzou is flat out bad and you thought we had a chance to make the tourney?

slight chance before the ISU game.

[King Crimson]

I thought we would win this game easily tonight. And I guess we do win easily if we hit our free throws. But this isn't a game that should have been close. I don't know if we win a game the rest of this year right now.

i'll agree with your final statement. but, we're not even in this game if we aren't unconscious from the 3 line.

[LittleWingSooner]

I agree there but we shouldn't be shooting 3's like we do. We need to try and make our easy shots. 3's won't win many ball games.

[King Crimson]

I agree there but we shouldn't be shooting 3's like we do. We need to try and make our easy shots. 3's won't win many ball games.

absolutely. if we are trying to make hay with AJ shooting behind the arc.....we are going to lose pretty much every time. and even Godbold. he does some little hustle things but not a guy i want as the go to guy.

[toast]

absolutely. if we are trying to make hay with AJ shooting behind the arc.....we are going to lose pretty much every time. and even Godbold. he does some little hustle things but not a guy i want as the go to guy.


well it doesn't help when the refs won't call goaltending...and I'm not blaming this loss on the refs.

[Collier11]

Mizzou is not a bad team. They are 17-9. They are young like us and dont have a ton of talent like us but give me a break! They are 22 points(6 more wins) away from being a 23-3 team. They are an average to above average team but def. not a bad team.

[Collier11]

that non-goaltending call was bad, I will admit

[toast]

Mizzou is not a bad team. They are 17-9. They are young like us and dont have a ton of talent like us but give me a break! They are 22 points(6 more wins) away from being a 23-3 team. They are an average to above average team but def. not a bad team.


definitely agree. they are looking at finishing 5th in the league after starting 0-4. there's about a bucket difference in the 4th through 10th place teams in our league.

[kc sooner]

I just watched the game and I think the refs were very bad, but Neal missed FT and Godbold missed a layup with the score tied, so we could have won although it was amazing the threes they were making. But, I don't think Mizzou is that great a team and I am worried we can easily lose the rest of the games, the offense is just bad unless we can make a bunch of threes and we won't be able to do that every game.

[Boomer.....]

Mizzou is a solid team. They had the height over us, since Longar was in foul trouble, which allowed them to score easily in the paint. Our 3-point shooting was great and it kept us in the game. The refs were horrible! The goal tending call and the missed hack on Griffin which the ref calls Mizzou ball after it "went of his leg" were two calls which would have changed the game. Despite everything else, if we shoot free throws like we normally do, we probably would have won the game.


That turn around jumper with under a minute in the game was an amazing shot. #1, I can't believe a player who did nothing the whole game would dare take that shot and #2, I can't believe it went down.

[OUmillenium]

Mizzou is a solid team. They had the height over us, since Longar was in foul trouble, which allowed them to score easily in the paint. Our 3-point shooting was great and it kept us in the game. The refs were horrible! The goal tending call and the missed hack on Griffin which the ref calls Mizzou ball after it "went of his leg" were two calls which would have changed the game. Despite everything else, if we shoot free throws like we normally do, we probably would have won the game.


That turn around jumper with under a minute in the game was an amazing shot. #1, I can't believe a player who did nothing the whole game would dare take that shot and #2, I can't believe it went down.

I didn't see the game, who made this last shot you describe?

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

Both Hanna and Keon Lawrence should have fouled out of the game with a about 8 minutes to go. I don't know how many times AJ or Neal were bumped dribbling the ball 20 feet from the basket. Griffin was pretty much raped on his shot in the last minute.

We missed our share of foul shots too but we could have spent the last 4-5 minutes of the game on the foul line. Of course we shot 56% from the foul line too. If we are 75% we probably win going away.

[Boomer.....]

I didn't see the game, who made this last shot you describe?
It was Keon Lawrence who is a Freshman who was only 1-6 before that shot.

[NormanPride]

We should have won the game even with the lumps out there swallowing their whistles. We couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, except from 3-point land, and that's partly due to the fact that we don't have anyone really stepping up. Godbold is trying, and Neal does what he can, but Nate seems like he's lost his nuts.

Also, I'm tired of seeing guards get away with humping players with their hands in the air. Hannah almost knocked Neal over with his crotch once, and the ref just sat there. You shouldn't be able to do that 40+ feet from the basket. ALSO. If someone drives an open lane, and people reach in, and he gets slapped around THAT IS A FOUL. CALL IT. BOTH WAYS.

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

Also, I'm tired of seeing guards get away with humping players with their hands in the air. Hannah almost knocked Neal over with his crotch once, and the ref just sat there. You shouldn't be able to do that 40+ feet from the basket. ALSO. If someone drives an open lane, and people reach in, and he gets slapped around THAT IS A FOUL. CALL IT. BOTH WAYS.


I counted at least twice that Lawrence did that. Once on Neal, once on AJ both times just about knocked him out of bounds when he was dribbling outside the 3-point line and and like you said Hannah plowed Neal. Any of those calls means that they foul out with 8+ minutes to go, or at least are riding the pine until the very end of the game not to mention we are in the bonus or double bonus sooner.

That's not to mention that Lawrence drug his pivot foot about 4-6" on the go ahead shot, that the dunk in the first half the MU player took about 4 steps or Lyons jump stopping in the lane, changing pivot feet and going up for a lay-up.

I'm not saying we didn't have problems of our own that kept us from winning or that I expect to get an equal amount of calls on the road, it seldom works that way. Griffin really struggled. As a team we struggled from the foul line and I thought before the game Carter and Longar would have big games and they really didn't. We gave up too many second chance points and we didn't attack the basket after beating the press nearly as much as we should have.

There is no doubt though that MU got some home cookin' down the stretch.

[Collier11]

As long as you are moving laterally, you are allowed to use your body. You cant go through them, but you can "rub" them up and down the court all day(atleast they wont call it). The goaltending and the griffin non-call were bad calls, lawrence didnt travel on that go ahead shot though. If we hit a few more free throws and layups that we missed we win easily. There are going to be missed calls in every game but as far as I can see, there werent any "BAD" calls other than the Goaltending. Everything else is objective

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

As long as you are moving laterally, you are allowed to use your body. You cant go through them, but you can "rub" them up and down the court all day(atleast they wont call it). The goaltending and the griffin non-call were bad calls, lawrence didnt travel on that go ahead shot though. If we hit a few more free throws and layups that we missed we win easily. There are going to be missed calls in every game but as far as I can see, there werent any "BAD" calls other than the Goaltending. Everything else is objective

I think you mean subjective...

I have to disagree on Lawrences shot. I DVRed the game and I went back and watched it in slo-mu. His foot moved at least 4-6". I'm not saying that an OU player hasn't gotten away with worse and I do agree it is a judgement call.

I don't mean to sound like a whiny bitch about it but even Sunvold said several calls during the game were bad, and he is an MU guy.

[Collier11]

ya I was impressed that sunvold was so fair in calling the game. Subjective/objective, I always get those mixed up...whatever! As far as Lawrence's shot goes, I think that almost anyone that does a move like that is going to move their foot a little, but in regular speed I doubt it is noticeable??? The fact of the matter is that in all honesty, Big 12 bball refs have been BAD for several years and they dont seem to be getting any better

[Collier11]

With the Griffin call though, I only saw one angle and it was impossible to tell if he got hacked or if it was a clean shot to the ball(he he), so I give the refs the benefit of doubt there.

[NormanPride]

Well, you could take that or any number of calls that didn't go our way. Longar's #4 was pretty weird, Neal getting owned in the lane by a big guy and getting the foul on him, any one of the hacks they laid on our guys down low, 2-3 jump stops, slapping our guys as they drive the lane, etc. etc. The refs "let 'em play" a bit too much on their end.