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Blues1
2/19/2007, 02:24 PM
Just thinking out Loud....What If 's

So Much will Rest on our New QB to stand up and take Control....??

Thinking on the Very Bright Side ..Our New QB has a Outstanding year...:D

9-1 North Texas --- OU 30 NT 12
9-8 Miami FL --- OU 20 Miami 19
9-15 Utah State --- OU 35 Utah State 14
9-22 @ Tulsa --- OU 32 - Tulsa 20
9-29 @ Colorado --- OU 24 Colorado 12
10-6 Texas --- OU 14 Texas 9
10-13 Missouri --- OU 45 Mizzou 21
10-20 @ Iowa State --OU 38 - Iowa State 10
10-27 Oklahoma State --OU 34 Osu 28
11-3 Texas A&M --OU 28 A&M 21
11-10 Baylor -- OU 30 Baylor 10
11-17 @ Texas Tech - OU 33 Tech 30


Thinking on The Realistic Side - Our New QB has a OK year....:eek:

9-1 North Texas ---- OU 30 NT 12
9-8 Miami FL ---- Miami 24 OU 14 - (L)
9-15 Utah State ----OU 35 Utah State 14
9-22 @ Tulsa ----OU 32 Tulsa 20
9-29 @ Colorado ---OU 24 Colorado 12
10-6 Texas --- Texas 28 OU 12 - (L)
10-13 Missouri --- OU 45 Mizzou 21
10-20 @ Iowa State ---OU 38 Iowa state 10
10-27 Oklahoma State -- OU 34 Osu 28
11-3 Texas A&M --OU 28 A&M 21
11-10 Baylor --OU 30 Baylor 10
11-17 @ Texas Tech --- TECH 33 OU 30 - (L)


Thinking on the Down Side --- Our New QB has a very Rough Year --:(

9-1 North Texas --- OU 22 NT 20
9-8 Miami FL --- Miami 33 OU 12 --- (L)
9-15 Utah State -- OU 24 Utah State 17
9-22 @ Tulsa -- OU 28 Tulsa 21
9-29 @ Colorado -- Colorado 21 OU 19 --- (L)
10-6 Texas -- Texas 33 OU 10 --- (L)
10-13 Missouri -- OU 17 Mizzou 15
10-20 @ Iowa State -- OU 24 Iowa State 21
10-27 Oklahoma State -- Osu 21 OU 20 --- (L)
11-3 Texas A&M -- A&M 28 OU 17 --- (L)
11-10 Baylor -- OU 33 Baylor 21
11-17 @ Texas Tech -- TECH 33 OU 21 --- (L)

I know I think TOO Much ---- :) --- :confused:

Your Turn to Think or Not to Think......

Keep Rockin'

mobilesteve
2/19/2007, 02:45 PM
I'll break it down this way:

The Wins:
UNT
Utah State
Tulsa
ISU
MU
Baylor
Texas Tech (Has to replace a lot of talent)

The Not So Easy Wins:
Colorado (Tough place to play and I'll bet we see some Boise St tricks from the Intramural's coach)
OSU (Should be an easy win, but you never know)

The Season Make or Break Games
Miami (Critical to get the QB going in a big game against a tough D)
A&M (Have a lot of talent coming back, but it's at home)
Texas (same as every year)

Fraggle145
2/19/2007, 02:53 PM
I'll break it down this way:

The Wins:
UNT
Utah State
Tulsa
ISU
MU
Baylor
Texas Tech (Has to replace a lot of talent)

The Not So Easy Wins:
Colorado (Tough place to play and I'll bet we see some Boise St tricks from the Intramural's coach)
OSU (Should be an easy win, but you never know)

The Season Make or Break Games
Miami (Critical to get the QB going in a big game against a tough D)
A&M (Have a lot of talent coming back, but it's at home)
Texas (same as every year)

For some reason I see MU as the tough game and not CU. Chase Daniel made it a challenge for us last year. OSU is here this year (right?) so I am not worried about it.

Tear Down This Wall
2/19/2007, 03:48 PM
May I inject a little reality into the duscussion? North Texas lost to Middle Tennessee State 35-0 at home last year, the same Middle Tennessee State team we beat 59-0. I hardly think the North Texas will hold us below 40 or 50, no matter how mean and green they are. Also, I doubt they'll crack the double digit barrier on our defense, no matter how many high school coaches they hire in the off-season.

Folks, get real, m'kay. North Texas is still practically a I-AA school. And, Utah State...does this even need to be discussed? We'll blow them out worse than we blow out North Texas.

TheUnnamedSooner
2/19/2007, 04:14 PM
I agree with wall, especially on the utah state thing

Blues1
2/19/2007, 06:24 PM
First game I never take for granted Not with a New QB.....With PT we Win those games 55 to zip -- But who's are QB....Nobody Knows....???

franklinjake
2/19/2007, 10:36 PM
After 3 straight G-Damn BCS losses and 2 straight losses to Austin Sucketh Powers, ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS A WIN IN THE COTTON BOWL (and a NC)... I think it is in the cards this next year! Hopefully the Stoop Troop and Company watched Urban Meyer's way of coaching in the NC and we come and to beat the $hit out of all teams in our way! TAKE NO PRISONERS! I WANNA HEAR BOOMER FREAKING SOONER PLAY A BAZILLION TIMES A GAME BECAUSE WE ARE WEARING OUT THE ENDZONES!!

Now, time to pop some downers......

insuranceman_22
2/19/2007, 10:50 PM
First game I never take for granted Not with a New QB.....With PT we Win those games 55 to zip -- But who's are QB....Nobody Knows....???

Just have to interject.....how bad would it have been with Mr. White at QB? You're point with a new QB is well taken though.

goingoneight
2/19/2007, 11:10 PM
OU 59 (P)UNT 3 (maybe even a shut out)
OU 24 MIA 10
OU 49 UtSt 0 (negative if possible)
OU 38 TUL 17 (scary first half, book it.)
OU 31 COL 24 (over early in the fourth)
OU 77 UT 0 (close game until kickoff)
OU 42 MU 12 (lock-knees is proven overrated)
OU 21 ISU 10 (Chizik gets a moral victory for blowing a lead)
OU 49 Boone's Farm 10 ("just wait until wrestling season" signs appear before halftime)
OU 63 aTm 14 (When are people going to realize how pathetic they are? "this year they'll be good!" :rolleyes:)
OU 38 Beighlar 0 (with plenty of media folks predicting a 2005 repeat)
OU 41 TxTech 28 (bell ringer guy works it onece per quarter)

OU 42 NU 9 (Callahan fired before bowl season, fingers crossed! :D)

OU 65 USUC 13 (payback's a bitch, rubbers!!!)


Nah, I think 2007 will go much like 2006. If we can move the ball effectively and cut down on turnovers, Texass is beatable. I don't expect a showdown of a game against MIAMI, it will likely be about like Washington was in 2006. Good name, not necessarily a quality team. Sooners will DROWN OUT any hint of communication MIA will have ala TTech 2006 in Nompton. I will be shocked if we're in the BCS MNC game, but I'll take it if it happens. Methinks a one-loss season with a BIG 12 Champeenship and a BCS berth again.

insuranceman_22
2/19/2007, 11:33 PM
Now I'm liking those predictions!

goingoneight
2/20/2007, 12:03 AM
Well, I can dream, can't I? :O

insuranceman_22
2/20/2007, 12:08 AM
Amen! (with fingers crossed)

sooneron
2/20/2007, 09:49 AM
Here's what I see-

9-1 North Texas --- OU 35 NT 9
9-8 Miami FL --- OU 24 Miami 17
9-15 Utah State --- OU 31 Utah State 3
9-22 @ Tulsa --- OU 37 - Tulsa 7
9-29 @ Colorado --- OU 27 Colorado 17
10-6 Texas --- OU 17 Texas 13
10-13 Missouri --- OU 24 Mizzou 13
10-20 @ Iowa State --OU 27 - Iowa State 17
10-27 Oklahoma State --OU 42 Osu 21
11-3 Texas A&M --OU 26 A&M 20
11-10 Baylor -- OU 31 Baylor 7
11-17 @ Texas Tech - OU 27 Tech 23


I think we should win every game with decent to good qb play. With our RBs, we should be able to line up and blow the first 3 of 4 opps off the line. Hopefully, the qb will come along and develop. If we get a qb with a rating of 100 or better, we can win out. This is, of course, barring any major injuries to the Oline or the Dbs.

Are there games that I think we can lose? Yes, they are the ones that I predicted by less than a td.

MojoRisen
2/20/2007, 10:04 AM
I believe even with average QB play- the only games that will be in jepordy are Miami and Texas.

If we jump on Miami early we should handle them easily however if they come fired up and stick with us in the first half- they will have atheletes who can physically compete with us.

Texas- will be tough Colty Mccoy will score some points on us- if we limit turnovers we can win this game as well- I believe last year we handled them physically which we did not do in 05.

I think we win out- however could be over matched in a tittle game depending on how prolific the offense.

Hopefully we let the QB's with the talent too throw down field go ahead and throw down field a bit...

I think Hazel will start against NT and Miami - then either bradford or nichol will emerge.

mobilesteve
2/20/2007, 10:09 AM
For some reason I see MU as the tough game and not CU. Chase Daniel made it a challenge for us last year. OSU is here this year (right?) so I am not worried about it.


Mu loses 7 starters on a decent defense and it's at home. I don't think Col will be very good but its the first true road game for the starting QB. Also, I'm not too concerned about OSU but they should have a good Offense.

The_Red_Patriot
2/20/2007, 10:26 AM
you guys are giving Miami too much credit.

Their offense is terrible.

The Defense is what barley got them to a bowl last year to beat Nevada by 1 one point. 21-20

Fraggle145
2/20/2007, 10:30 AM
Mu loses 7 starters on a decent defense and it's at home. I don't think Col will be very good but its the first true road game for the starting QB.

Point taken. whatever, KILL 'EM ALL!!! :cool:

MojoRisen
2/20/2007, 10:30 AM
Miami in game two will be physical enough on Defense to stay with us if we don't come prepared and just try and ram it down the throat of the defense.

Plus suck or not they have a Sr. QB and a new coaching staff that worries me...

I think they will be improved next year so figure an 8-4 team with a good defense in game two- could prove to be tough game.

sooneron
2/20/2007, 10:37 AM
you guys are giving Miami too much credit.

Their offense is terrible.

The Defense is what barley got them to a bowl last year to beat Nevada by 1 one point. 21-20
I don't think it's too much credit. They have athletes and a new staff that will probably have us off balance a little, as we won't know what to totally expect.
They will come in fired up to play.

Do you really think they were fired up for Nevada? They had a lame duck staff and nothing to play for. That was THEN, this will be NOW.

Tear Down This Wall
2/20/2007, 10:37 AM
All of the QB talk is non-sense. There are 22 players on offense and defense. We've lost QBs before during the Stoops Era - to graduation, to injury, and even one to broken rules.

The result has been four Big 12 Conference titles started by four different QBs - Josh Heupel in 2000, Nate Hybl in 2002, Jason White in 2004, and Paul Thompson in 2006.

It isn't rocket science. You win and lose as a team. Besides, you can pinpoint the cause of nearly every one of our losses since the national title year - the secondary, namely safety play...or lack thereof.

With the number of returning receivers, running backs, and offensvie linemen, you can rest easy in 2007. The 2005 and 2006 seasons were rife with inexperience at nearly all of those positions, save Adrian Peterson. But, we were undefeated in 2006 with Peterson standing on the sideline is street clothes!

This whole notion that we're going to struggle is overblown off-season talk. Stoops' team have never been one man shows, and it won't be that way in 2007, either.

North Texas and Utah State will be crushed by defensive speed they can only dream of. On the other side of the ball...well, it'll be fun to watch UNT and USU's linebackers who run 4.8-5.0 40s try to keep up with Allen Patrick, Malcom Kelly & Co. And, with an offensive line full of experienced, junior starters working against the little DLs of UNT and USU...it'll be wholesale slaughter out there even if we ditch the QB altogether and run out of the Single Wing.

C'mon, folks. Get real.

Fraggle145
2/20/2007, 10:39 AM
Here's what I see-

9-1 North Texas --- OU 400 NT -42
9-8 Miami FL --- OU 52 Miami 0
9-15 Utah State --- OU 397 Utah State -12
9-22 @ Tulsa --- OU 121 - Tulsa 7
9-29 @ Colorado --- OU 100 Colorado 0
10-6 Texas --- OU 247365 Texas -69
10-13 Missouri --- OU 134 Mizzou 7
10-20 @ Iowa State --OU 396 - Iowa State 0
10-27 Oklahoma State --OU - Osu Forfeit
11-3 Texas A&M --OU 251 A&M -22
11-10 Baylor -- OU 520 Baylor -84
11-17 @ Texas Tech - OU 280 Tech 0

12- @Your Mom's house--OU Satisfied Your Mom Hurtin'

My prediction... Pain.

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The_Red_Patriot
2/20/2007, 10:49 AM
Agreed.

What the staff and Paul Thompson did last year is proof of all that qb talk.

We will be ok at that position

MojoRisen
2/20/2007, 10:55 AM
We won a lot of close games last year- I would like to see our offense to open it up if possible and score on avg 33-34 points consistantly no matter who we play on the schedule.

We had a lot of 3 & outs last year in critical points in the game-- You have to credit the defense.

I would only think that our defense would be sick if we could score some points for them and take more risks more often to get pressure on the QB with multiple blitz packages not just Harris out of the nickle zone.

sooneron
2/20/2007, 11:40 AM
All of the QB talk is non-sense. There are 22 players on offense and defense. We've lost QBs before during the Stoops Era - to graduation, to injury, and even one to broken rules.

The result has been four Big 12 Conference titles started by four different QBs - Josh Heupel in 2000, Nate Hybl in 2002, Jason White in 2004, and Paul Thompson in 2006.



C'mon, folks. Get real.
I agree to an extent, but we seem to be pretty strong at safety. Safety play and qb play are the most important on the field for this one reason. If one mistake is made, the game can be lost.

Collier11
2/20/2007, 02:09 PM
For what its worth I see it this way considering that we get atleast
Nate Hybl/ Paul Thompson qb play all season long.

9-1 North Texas --- We win by 4 tds. They were horrible last year and have a hs coach who may be good, but not yet
9-8 Miami FL --- This will be a good defensive game, I see us winning by a score of 17-10 or something like that
9-15 Utah State --- Horrible team, good game for our young players. Especially after playing Miami, we annialate them
9-22 @ Tulsa --- I think this is a great game as far as where it sits in the schedule, a good team but not great, we win something like 35-17
9-29 @ Colorado --- I know its on the road but it doesnt really worry me, I say 34-13
10-6 Texas --- Here comes the season, we play well we could set up for a title run. We play bad and we may have some worries. Toss up defensive battle IMO
10-13 Missouri --- At home they dont worry me as much, but it will be relatively close. 24-14
10-20 @ Iowa State --I may be wrong but I dont see this being a game at all-38-10
10-27 Oklahoma State --Almost always we drill them at home, they have a good offense and who knows about the D. Depends on what kind of momentum we have going, but I guess something like 27-17
11-3 Texas A&M --At home, they cant play with us. We have figured out Mcgee's game and who knows if Goodson will be the same. I say 31-17
11-10 Baylor -- Baylor lost all momentum that they had gained with all the close losses two years ago, we win 42-14
11-17 @ Texas Tech - At tech so it wil be a good game, I say 27-21

Obviously I have us winning all games which would be ideal. But to be as objective as possible, I would say that our season comes down to texas, miami, and missouri. Those are the tree toughest games IMO!

AzianSooner
2/20/2007, 02:40 PM
we will lose low score agaisnt Miami and win big in Dallas.

SleestakSooner
2/20/2007, 03:22 PM
Ummm... ok Miami pretty well sucked last year and they have a new coach and a ton of issues to deal with. I don't see them coming in here and being that competitive.

Colorado also had an awful year and I don't see them improving that much, although that game is on the road.

I can see Tech giving us some trouble over in Lubbock.

The main thing I have to say is... isn't the Sooner defense going to be a bit better (on paper) than they were last season? It seems to me you give very little credit to the defense. As long as the new offensive players don't turn the ball over that much and the defense plays well I think you are prognosticating way too high on the opponents scores.

OU will lose at the most two games next season probably only one if any at all.

SleestakSooner
2/20/2007, 03:24 PM
http://www.yumeglass.com/japan/free/PDF/yoda.jpg

Mmmmm yes, one quarterback does not a team make.

Collier11
2/20/2007, 04:09 PM
http://www.yumeglass.com/japan/free/PDF/yoda.jpg

Mmmmm yes, one quarterback does not a team make.



NERD ALERT!!!

AlbqSooner
2/20/2007, 08:59 PM
As long as the new offensive players don't turn the ball over that much . . .

We have substantial experience returning at Wide Receiver, Tight End, O-Line, and Running Backs. Wouldn't it have been just as easy to say, ". . . as long as the QB doesn't turn the ball over that much"?

I have said it before and will say it again. We need a QB this fall who is merely adequate. Anything else is gravy.

Defensively we lost a ton of talent at Linebacker but have some intriguing replacements. The D-Line also has some newer faces that have yet to prove themselves. I believe this defense will grow into a great one, but they are, IMHO, the question mark going into next season.

Soonerfan1993
2/22/2007, 11:42 PM
I agree Sleestack and Albq,

This team that was mainly FR RFr and RSo 2 years ago is now filled with tons of experience and was playing like one of the 2-3 best teams in the country the final 4 months of the year period.

They are the defending big 12 champs, they only lost like 9 scholarship players off the two deep,the only game I could see as a tossup is Texas only if a diffrent Texas team from the last 4 months of the year shows up if not Texas won't be competitive in the game. I guess you didn't see the games aginst NU, Tech, KSU, A&M and Iowa. The best players off that team are now gone off to the NFL.

Miami-Fla is only in name only. They are a has-been of what they were from 00-02.

They were a loss to bc away from not making a bowl game. Both Miami and FSU have fallen down the tubes and I don't see that game being decided by less then a 10 point OU victory in Norman where Stoops has lost 2 home games in 8 years.

OU_Sooners75
2/23/2007, 06:33 AM
Thinking on The Realistic Side - Our New QB has a OK year....:eek:

9-1 North Texas ---- OU 30 NT 12
9-8 Miami FL ---- Miami 24 OU 14 - (L)
9-15 Utah State ----OU 35 Utah State 14
9-22 @ Tulsa ----OU 32 Tulsa 20
9-29 @ Colorado ---OU 24 Colorado 12
10-6 Texas --- Texas 28 OU 12 - (L)
10-13 Missouri --- OU 45 Mizzou 21
10-20 @ Iowa State ---OU 38 Iowa state 10
10-27 Oklahoma State -- OU 34 Osu 28
11-3 Texas A&M --OU 28 A&M 21
11-10 Baylor --OU 30 Baylor 10
11-17 @ Texas Tech --- TECH 33 OU 30 - (L)



Your realistic view is a little flawed.
Realistically, the only game I see us losing next year is Texas (eek!). However, even that game is a very winnable game.

Let me put it this way.

Our biggest question mark, and honestly, our only question mark is the QB spot.

We have all the WRs back. We have 4 starting OL back. We return a half-the-year-starting RB. We return all TEs. Realistically, we even have 5 OL that started last year coming back.

Anyway. Our QB situation is not as grim as it appears. Be it Joey Halzle (which I doubt will be the starter), Keith Nichol (which is the one I think will start), or Sam Bradford (which would be my second choice), All they have to do is minimize mistakes this season. The QB that will be starting, no matter who it is, has a mess load of talent that will surround him.

On defense, we will need to shore up the ends. We have all starting DBs back, and will replace two LBs. However, one thing we have learned under Stoops is that the Defense will be top 15 every year.

Miami will not be an easy task, but it will be in Norman. It will also be a very winnable game. Same with Texas.

I do not see us losing to Tech, even though it is always a possiblity.