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stoopified
2/17/2007, 11:11 AM
According to Sooner Stats.com OU is 330-78-15(79.8%) since the first game played there in 1925.I wonder how that stacks up against the rest of the Big 12 home fields and for that matter nationally?Anyone have DKR stats,SBC Jones,Folsom Field,Boone-Pickens ,etc?Nationally does anyone have stats on ND,USC,'Bama,Miami,etc,

Are there teams out there who have better home records in their current stadium than OU?Remember Memorial Stadium only dates back to 1925.OU has won more home games than this just not in what is nowOklahoma Memorial Stadium-Owen Field.(yes,I am aware I left part of the oFFICIAL name off,and yes it is deliberate.I have nothing against the Gaylords but think renaming stadium is wrong,but that is a whole different thread).

For those of you who read the b-ball forum(all 12 of us),yes this was inspired by that thread.So all you proud Pokes,Red Raiders,Huskers,Horns,etc.,what is your record?

okienole3
2/17/2007, 11:18 AM
HOEfield?:D

PDXsooner
2/17/2007, 11:20 AM
it's been a good homefield advantage because the team's been great. the crowd in norman is painfully quiet compared to SEC and big 10 stadiums. just watching games on TV after a TD, OU fans are normally standing and clapping, and when you watch SEC games the people are downright yelling and jumping up and down.

stoopified
2/17/2007, 11:25 AM
HOEfield?:DGlad you got that,I fixed it now.

85sooners
2/17/2007, 11:25 AM
:pop:

The_Red_Patriot
2/17/2007, 11:25 AM
Ive been to better Hoefield colleges.

SouthCarolinaSooner
2/17/2007, 12:31 PM
:pop:
:pop:

boomersooner28
2/17/2007, 01:14 PM
In my experiences, the bigger the hoefield, the better. Just sayin.

Vaevictis
2/17/2007, 03:11 PM
I'm not certain, but I bet it would be more enlightening to try to find a statistically significant difference between home wins and away wins for OU teams as opposed to comparing our home wins to other teams home wins.

If you do the latter, you're probably just measuring which team is better overall.

tommie15
2/17/2007, 03:36 PM
Since 1923, when Memorial Stadium was opened, Nebraska has a home winning percentage of 76.0%.

In the modern era (1945-present), the winning percentage is 76.7%.

In the Devaney-Osborne years (1962-1997), the winning percentage was a remarkable 88.8%.

Okieflyer
2/17/2007, 03:37 PM
Huge!!!

If the home team is really good. ;)

soonerboy_odanorth
2/17/2007, 03:39 PM
it's been a good homefield advantage because the team's been great. the crowd in norman is painfully quiet compared to SEC and big 10 stadiums. just watching games on TV after a TD, OU fans are normally standing and clapping, and when you watch SEC games the people are downright yelling and jumping up and down.

SEC... Absolutely.

Big 10? Not so much. Penn State and Michigan are pin drop quiet for holding over 100,000. IMO, the only two truly rowdy stadiums in the Big 10 are Ohio State and Wisconsin.

BOOMERBRADLEY
2/17/2007, 03:42 PM
I think since UT is going to out-do the rest of the big 12 in seating capacity its only a matter of time before OU puts in 10,000+ more seats

Maybe that's just me...

MichiganSooner
2/17/2007, 04:55 PM
Michigan Stadium opened for first game Oct 1, 1927.

The won-loss record of games at that stadium is 344-103-15 which is 76.9% (not including ties in the figure).

The all-time record for Michigan, home and away, including home games played at the first stadium, Ferry Field is 849-280-36 which is 75.2% (not including ties in the % figure.

The Michigan Stadium record is only slightly better than all-time in win %.

Michigan Stadium is quiet compared to Owen Field. There is no comparison from beginning of game to the end. It may be louder at Michigan due to big plays because of 25,000 more people, but that is only temporary. Also, a Stadium policy requires fans to remain seated during the game. So they stand for the kickoff and at big plays and then sit down. My brother is a Michigan season ticketholder and came out here for the Tech game this season. He was absolutely amazed by the atmosphere of a game in Norman.

AlabamaSooner
2/17/2007, 05:00 PM
Since it was asked, Bama is 204-41-3 (.829) in Bryant-Denny which opened in 1929. For MANY years, half of the games were played at Legion Field in Birmingham since the stadium was much bigger. Home games in B'ham stopped in 2003.

Comparing the crowds, the SEC definitely is tops in that department, but OU and Bama are VERY similar. It seems to be this way at most traditional power stadiums. It can get REALLY loud for close games or big-time opponents, but can be deathly quiet at other times.

stoopified
2/17/2007, 05:55 PM
Thanks Tommie,Michigan, and Alabama for adding your stats and input.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/17/2007, 11:55 PM
it's been a good homefield advantage because the team's been great. the crowd in norman is painfully quiet compared to SEC and big 10 stadiums. just watching games on TV after a TD, OU fans are normally standing and clapping, and when you watch SEC games the people are downright yelling and jumping up and down.It may be different now, but historically the Sooner fans are abyssmally quiet when the opponent is on offense. We should be screaming our guts out, then, so the bad guys' QB can't be heard by his own team.

BOOMERBRADLEY
2/18/2007, 12:16 AM
It depends on which side of the field you are on. I have sat in the student section for 3 years now, and only recently did I attend my first game on the "other" side. It was very quiet and I was asked to sit down numerous times.

Give me the student section where we scream and stand

Rogue
2/18/2007, 10:06 AM
Here's one take (http://www.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1014&CID=444097) Doesn't include all time stats I don't think, just opinion.

1. Va Tech
2) LSU
3) Ohio State
4) Florida
5) Penn State
6) Oregon
7) Texas A&M
8) Wisconsin
9) Florida State
10) Auburn

Texas Golfer
2/18/2007, 10:22 AM
According to Sooner Stats.com OU is 330-78-15(79.8%) since the first game played there in 1925.

The Blake years and the loss to TCU in 2005 did nothing to help that record.

Okieflyer
2/18/2007, 10:39 AM
The Blake years and the loss to TCU in 2005 did nothing to help that record.

I think we should just throw out the "Lost Years".

BajaOklahoma
2/18/2007, 10:45 AM
The Blake years and the loss to TCU in 2005 did nothing to help that record.

Wouldn't that be in spite of the Blake years and the TCU loss.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/18/2007, 11:17 AM
The Blake years and the loss to TCU in 2005 did nothing to help that record. Not to mention the 1960's...

stoopified
2/18/2007, 11:41 AM
The Blake years and the loss to TCU in 2005 did nothing to help that record.TG why did you have to drag Boo into this?you killed my buzz.:)

Husker In Oklahoma
2/18/2007, 08:15 PM
In the Devaney-Osborne years (1962-1997), the winning percentage was a remarkable 88.8%.And it was since this time that Memorial Stadium grew to 77,000 + fans every Saturday. So basically, since about 1972 or there a bouts, when NU stadium grew to the 70,000 + fans level, they are winning darn near 90% at home. NU most definately has a very solid "home field advantage"!

tulsaoilerfan
2/18/2007, 08:35 PM
And it was since this time that Memorial Stadium grew to 77,000 + fans every Saturday. So basically, since about 1972 or there a bouts, when NU stadium grew to the 70,000 + fans level, they are winning darn near 90% at home. NU most definately has a very solid "home field advantage"!
They did until Callenberger got there anyway:D

Vaevictis
2/18/2007, 09:03 PM
Okay, following my own advice, I've tallied the Stoops years, home vs. away. The sample size is small, so try not to buy too much into it, but, the difference between home and non-home game winning percentage (calculated as Home%-NonHome%):

2006: 37.5%
2005: 33.3%
2004: 14.3%
2003: 28.6%
2002: 25.0%
2001: 02.4%
2000: 00.0%
1999: 71.4%

Just looking at those numbers, I'd say being at home makes a huge difference for OU. Also, note that I said "Non-Home" here, and not just away. I counted Dallas, CCG, and Bowl games as neutral (even though they aren't always, such as K State / CCG and LSU / Sugar Bowl).

1999 is an interesting year -- undefeated at home, losing record not at home, which explains the massive difference.

Vaevictis
2/18/2007, 09:17 PM
More of the same.

Blake:
1998: 26.7%
1997: 33.3%
1996: -50.0% (Not a single home win!)

Schnellenwhatever:
1995: 00.0% (50% away and home percentage)

Gibbs:
1994: 17.4%
1993: 08.6%
1992: 41.7%
1991: 25.7%
1990: 23.3%
1989: 43.3%

Vaevictis
2/18/2007, 09:21 PM
So, from 1989-2007, the average difference between home win percentage and non-home win percentage is 22.4%.

Again, I have to stress that it's a small sample, so it's statistically suspect...

But a 22.4% difference on average is a big difference.

stoopified
12/4/2007, 03:37 PM
According to Sooner Stats.com OU is 330-78-15(79.8%) since the first game played there in 1925.I wonder how that stacks up against the rest of the Big 12 home fields and for that matter nationally?Anyone have DKR stats,SBC Jones,Folsom Field,Boone-Pickens ,etc?Nationally does anyone have stats on ND,USC,'Bama,Miami,etc,

Are there teams out there who have better home records in their current stadium than OU?Remember Memorial Stadium only dates back to 1925.OU has won more home games than this just not in what is nowOklahoma Memorial Stadium-Owen Field.(yes,I am aware I left part of the oFFICIAL name off,and yes it is deliberate.I have nothing against the Gaylords but think renaming stadium is wrong,but that is a whole different thread).

For those of you who read the b-ball forum(all 12 of us),yes this was inspired by that thread.So all you proud Pokes,Red Raiders,Huskers,Horns,etc.,what is your record?To update the OU recoed at Owen Field/Memorial Stadium is now 337-78-15 .801 winning %.

I'm guessing that Nebraska and Texas have taken a hit to their home records,with UT losing to KSU and aTm at home and Nebraska losing to EVERYBODY at home. :)

mdklatt
12/4/2007, 03:54 PM
IMO, the only two truly rowdy stadiums in the Big 10 are Ohio State and Wisconsin.

Not coincidentally, those two states seem to have the highest incidence of binge drinking.

OUPrice08
12/4/2007, 03:56 PM
I feel that OU has a pretty solid homefield advantage, obviously. I've been to games in Norman, Ohio State, Alabama, and A&M and I think that OU is somewhat close but not really a place I would consider to one of the loudest in the country. Ohio State and Alabama was incredible. I think the way Memorial Stadium is shaped has got a lot to do with it....

NYC Poke
12/4/2007, 04:09 PM
by that thread.So all you proud Pokes,Red Raiders,Huskers,Horns,etc.,what is your record?

I went to cfdatawarehouse.com and unfortunatley they don't sort the data that way. However, I did learn that we are historically 3-3-1 with Kingfisher, 0-1 against Tulsa Businessmen, and 0-1 against Logan High School, so I'm not overly optimistic. We do have scoreboard on Logan County High, though. 1-0, baby!

Harry Beanbag
12/4/2007, 05:24 PM
Not coincidentally, those two states seem to have the highest incidence of binge drinking.


You say that like it's a bad thing. :confused:

bluedogok
12/4/2007, 11:41 PM
I still like the series against Kingfisher College.
1911 - 104-0
1917 - 179-0
1919 - 157-0

Those were at home.....

SoonerMom2
12/5/2007, 01:54 AM
It may be different now, but historically the Sooner fans are abyssmally quiet when the opponent is on offense. We should be screaming our guts out, then, so the bad guys' QB can't be heard by his own team.

You must not have been to a game recently. MO game was very loud and so was Miami -- could not have gotten any louder and everyone around us was jumping up and down. The stadium has been loud for a couple of years and it is getting louder which I didn't think was possible.

76soonergrad
12/5/2007, 02:27 AM
Looking at it by how the team plays rather than how loud the crowd is....

This year. Colorado, Iowa State and TT vs. OSU and Missouri. Seems a huge difference. Maybe the players are more comfortable at home.

We always used to say that "OU plays better wearing the red jerseys." At the Texas game and the bowl games. Better luck, mojo, whatever.







I do remember a long time ago on a rainy September day we faced Stanford at Owen field. It started out typical OU football, we built a lead. We were sitting in the visitors section. It was quiet there.

This one guy for the other team started saying, "They're getting scared" as his team began scoring. They crept up on us. They were a passing team. Their receivers ran great routes, made their cuts. OUr defenders would slip trying to cover them.

Switzer changed his game plan and rushed only 3 players. The others dropped back to defend the pass, something we weren't used to doing at the time. The stadium got quiet as this team kept scoring. What was going on? We wondered.

Ou ended up losing that game. It was a wierd feeling. Their quarterback turned out to be pretty good.


It was John Elway.

And it was a quiet day that rainy day in Norman. On the rare occasions we lose at home it gets (or it used to get) quiet.