Republicans ready to wave white flag in Iraq [Archive]

Stoop Dawg

2/16/2007, 02:32 PM

MojoRisen

2/16/2007, 02:39 PM

In the Senate, Collins joined two Republicans and one Democrat to unveil nonbinding legislation expressing disagreement with Bush's plan. The president should consider "all options and alternatives" involving a smaller force, the measure said.

Here we go again----- - Let the military leaders in Iraq with years of war behind us now - have say so in what they need to win the damn war....

If they have a year too do it- measure it... If we are pulling out .... get them out now.... too squeeze the effort is too kill American Soldiers....

SoonerGirl06

2/16/2007, 02:55 PM

GRRRRRRR....

That's all I can say right now. :(

jk the sooner fan

2/16/2007, 03:07 PM

you're absolutely right......any member of congress thats taking this stance......they're all wrong

thanks for bringing that to my attention

SoonerGirl06

2/16/2007, 03:13 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2813845&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

its disgusting that we've got our troops over there trying to do their job, and they have to listen to words from the right such as we're hearing

It's disgusting that they're having to listen to these words period. It doesn't matter if it's coming from the left or the right.

jk the sooner fan

2/16/2007, 03:13 PM

he's trying to push my buttons.....his attempts are getting weaker all the time

SoonerGirl06

2/16/2007, 03:14 PM

he's trying to push my buttons.....his attempts are getting weaker all the time

May I ask what you're talking about?

jk the sooner fan

2/16/2007, 03:15 PM

stoop dawg and i have "history"

SoonerGirl06

2/16/2007, 03:16 PM

stoop dawg and i have "history"

Ahhh.... I get it now. The lightbulb just flashed on. :D

jk the sooner fan

2/16/2007, 03:32 PM

yeah this is quickly becoming Vietnam Part Two

SoonerGirl06

2/16/2007, 03:39 PM

yeah this is quickly becoming Vietnam Part Two

"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it." -B. O'Reilly

colleyvillesooner

2/16/2007, 03:41 PM

"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it." -B. O'Reilly

Please tell me you really think Bill O'Reily came up with that. Please.

SoonerGirl06

2/16/2007, 03:47 PM

Please tell me you really think Bill O'Reily came up with that. Please.

You're in the mood to just let me have it, aren't ya? :D

Just go easy on me if you're gonna slam me... it's Friday afternoon and I just wanna relax...

I don't know if he came up with that originally or not.. most likely not, but since I read it in one of his books, I contributed that quote to him.

colleyvillesooner

2/16/2007, 03:52 PM

You're in the mood to just let me have it, aren't ya? :D

Just go easy on me if you're gonna slam me... it's Friday afternoon and I just wanna relax...

I don't know if he came up with that originally or not.. most likely not, but since I read it in one of his books, I contributed that quote to him.

That'd be like him to steal a quote. ;)

SoonerBorn68

2/16/2007, 03:52 PM

stoop dawg and i have "history"

He also has a tendency for drive by postings.

SoonerGirl06

2/16/2007, 03:54 PM

That'd be like him to steal a quote. ;)

Bill does have his moments... but ya just gotta love his tenacity. :)

colleyvillesooner

2/16/2007, 03:56 PM

Is tenacity a synonym for dumbassness? If so, then yeah, I love his tenacity.

Vaevictis

2/16/2007, 04:19 PM

Tenacity is only invariably a virtue if you're a rat terrier.

Otherwise, it depends on what you're trying to do.

yermom

2/16/2007, 04:43 PM

yeah this has been Vietnam Part Two for a while now

;)

jacru

2/16/2007, 04:50 PM

When did losing get so popular?

FaninAma

2/16/2007, 04:59 PM

Has the GOP declared defeat in Iraq like Waxman has? If so please link me to the specific statement.

Stoop Dawg

2/16/2007, 05:05 PM

Has the GOP declared defeat in Iraq like Waxman has? If so please link me to the specific statement.

Ahhhh, now I get it. Sorry, I misunderstood your post. When I first read "Democrats ready to wave white flag in Iraq" I thought you were speaking of Democrats in general (i.e. all democrats are ready to surrender in Iraq).

In reality, you meant "Democrats [who are] ready to wave white flag in Iraq" and were speaking of Waxman only.

My mistake. :rolleyes:

FaninAma

2/16/2007, 05:13 PM

Ahhhh, now I get it. Sorry, I misunderstood your post. When I first read "Democrats ready to wave white flag in Iraq" I thought you were speaking of Democrats in general (i.e. all democrats are ready to surrender in Iraq).

In reality, you meant "Democrats [who are] ready to wave white flag in Iraq" and were speaking of Waxman only.

My mistake. :rolleyes:

You know you're cute when you act coy.

The Democrats argue Bush and Rumsfeld screwed up by not sending enough troops in to get the job done. Now they oppose more troops being sent in.

If they aren't for fewer troops and they aren't for more troops and they're not for total capitulation then what the hell do they support? Please give me the 411, I'm all ears.(or eyes)

Stoop Dawg

2/16/2007, 10:34 PM

Sorry Fan, I'm just growing weary of the constant labelling and gross over-generalizations around here. Saying "the Democrats oppose a troop increase" is generally correct (I don't know of any that do not oppose it) but it fails to mention that there are some Republicans who also oppose it. You're generally a better poster than that. Maybe I've just seen so much of it lately that I'm going out of my way to look for it now. I dunno. Whatever.....

PDXsooner

2/16/2007, 10:51 PM

[QUOTE=Stoop Dawg] I'm just growing weary of the constant labelling and gross over-generalizations around here. [QUOTE]

i'm surprised you lasted this long. that's how people politically debate. you generalize the "other"side, but when your side is attacked, you ask for specifics and ignore facts.

FaninAma

2/17/2007, 12:44 AM

I have problems with how Bush and Rumsfeld conducted the war but to start throwing in the towel now is a dangerous and short-sighted position. The Muslim radicals are jackals and they smell fear and prey on weakness.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

2/17/2007, 12:57 AM

"Democrats ready to wave white flag in Iraq" I thought you were speaking of Democrats in general (i.e. all democrats are ready to surrender in Iraq).

In reality, you meant "Democrats [who are] ready to wave white flag in Iraq" and were speaking of Waxman only.

My mistake. :rolleyes:The white flag waving includes most democrats. Which ones do you think are NOT ready to give up?

Sooner98

2/17/2007, 02:57 AM

When did losing get so popular?

"Losing" is the new "winning".

usmc-sooner

2/17/2007, 03:22 AM

I never cared much about politics until I became a Marine, since then I've learned to hate Democrats.

def_lazer_fc

2/17/2007, 05:43 AM

its kinda hard to win when you're fighting a noun. "terror", "drugs", "crime", "guitars"...actually, that might be kinda easy.

Jerk

2/17/2007, 07:39 AM

I never cared much about politics until I became a Marine, since then I've learned to hate Democrats.

Liberals are best viewed through a rifle scope.

I kid! I kid!!

I'm a non-voilent man of peace:D

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

2/17/2007, 10:58 AM

I never cared much about politics until I became a Marine, since then I've learned to hate Democrats.Fella, you must remember to keep an open mind, don't develop opinions based on what you've heard from the left countless times, ad nauseum, all your life. Always listen to their newest proclamation of how socialism will work, and how EVIL America is, and weigh each silly-a*sed argument on its merits.

booomer

2/17/2007, 12:04 PM

he's trying to push my buttons.....his attempts are getting weaker all the time

jk, is your son in Iraq or Afghanistan?

jk the sooner fan

2/17/2007, 02:58 PM

jk, is your son in Iraq or Afghanistan?

he's in Kuwait at the moment, on a FTX preparing to roll into Western Baghdad on this coming thursday

PDXsooner

2/17/2007, 06:59 PM

I never cared much about politics until I became a Marine, since then I've learned to hate Democrats.

it's wierd how someone who has the mental toughness and courage to be a marine can also be so ignorant and small-minded at the same time. i respect your commitment to our country, but am appalled by your weak-minded stereotyping.

olevetonahill

2/17/2007, 07:20 PM

Im gonna weigh in one time on this whole subject , so be prepared it may be my longest post ever . Cause I usually stay the **** outta poli threads and such .
Thoughts on Iraq
Should we have even went in , I dont know , the whole country thought so at the time .
Should we have sent in More troops, at the time ? Hell YES , shoulda sent in every swingin dick we had in uniform , and a few that dont swing ( sorry ladies ).
Is it "Another " viet nam ? hell NO . we are not fighting a government , Citizen supported foe .
Should we stay ? GETERDONE
should we pull out NOW ? if thats what this country wants then GETERDONE NOW . I dont want to see another Casualty , If we are Not gonna let our troops fulfill their Mission . If we are gonna stay send em everything weve got to GETERDONE.
I dont want this to turn into a Nam thingy . If we pull out before Mission fully accomplished, then the sacrifices made By those who have been there , are wounded ,or dead are in vain .and weve ****ed away a lot of our youth :mad:
Lets get the ****ing JOB done then get the **** OUT . Or get the **** OUT NOW
Sorry maybe I should just delete this , but I aint gonna !

Tulsa_Fireman

2/17/2007, 07:45 PM

I think a whole mess of us feel the exact same way, Vet.

If we're in, then by God, get in. A**hole and elbows deep, and put the full faith and credit in the hurtin' ability of our boys in uniform. Unhitch the leash. Because as long as we keep that dog on that political leash, all we're doing is killin' hard workin' men and women for the sake of a political position. If brothers and sisters are gonna die, make it worthwhile. Set a footprint. Stomp a mudhole. And have every jihadin' son of a bitch within a thousand miles knowing full well that to cross that line means lots and lots of dead asses.

That, or get the hell out. Plain and simple.

Either do the deed or hitch the wagons and bolt. This half-***, namby-pamby Rules of Engagement way to wage war is ridiculous. And it's puttin' our boys unnecessarily in harm's way. If they're gonna be there, let 'em do their job just like you or I would in our respective employment.

usmc-sooner

2/17/2007, 08:04 PM

it's wierd how someone who has the mental toughness and courage to be a marine can also be so ignorant and small-minded at the same time. i respect your commitment to our country, but am appalled by your weak-minded stereotyping.

I didn't stereotype anyone, I said from my experiences as a Marine I hate the Democratic Party. It's the truth, I don't care for them. I guess since I don't care for Democrats that makes me ignorant and small minded. I think in the last 38 years Americans have only put 2 in office.

oh well I guess I'm just so **** ignorant it's a wonder I can walk through a door. :D

dang in the last 2 days I've been an idiot, a jackass **** jarhead, an *******, ignorant and small minded. I need a hug. :D

olevetonahill

2/17/2007, 08:26 PM

I didn't stereotype anyone, I said from my experiences as a Marine I hate the Democratic Party. It's the truth, I don't care for them. I guess since I don't care for Democrats that makes me ignorant and small minded. I think in the last 38 years Americans have only put 2 in office.

oh well I guess I'm just so **** ignorant it's a wonder I can walk through a door. :D

dang in the last 2 days I've been an idiot, a jackass **** jarhead, an *******, ignorant and small minded. I need a hug. :D
You can walk thru a door ?
I didnt think Yalls training reached that level :)

usmc-sooner

2/17/2007, 08:32 PM

You can walk thru a door ?
I didnt think Yalls training reached that level :)

They taught me about hatches but this door thing is getting to me.

OCUDad

2/17/2007, 08:36 PM

I thought Marines had no problem walking through a door. They just don't open them first. :D

olevetonahill

2/17/2007, 08:37 PM

They taught me about hatches but this door thing is getting to me.
Thats right , I keep fergettin Yall are wannbe swabbies :D

olevetonahill

2/17/2007, 08:39 PM

I thought Marines had no problem walking through a door. They just don't open them first. :D
The Army gotta point em in the right direction 1st , then the swabbies gotta give em a ride :D

usmc-sooner

2/17/2007, 08:41 PM

The Army gotta point em in the right direction 1st , then the swabbies gotta give em a ride :D

we usually show up and save the Armies butt. :D And let me go on record as saying I hate being on ships.

If the Army and the Navy ever look on Heaven's scenes
They will find her streets are guarded by United States Marines.

olevetonahill

2/17/2007, 08:49 PM

Yea Yea Yea
We send Yall ashore 1st cause some ones gotta fill all those sandbags :)

PDXsooner

2/17/2007, 08:57 PM

jk the sooner fan

2/17/2007, 08:59 PM

so hating any group of people makes one small minded?

SoonerGirl06

2/17/2007, 09:02 PM

If someone hates small minded people, does that make them small minded?

Jerk

2/17/2007, 09:04 PM

HEE HAW

I hate everybody. I'm an equal opportunity bigot!

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

2/17/2007, 09:09 PM

I didn't stereotype anyone, I said from my experiences as a Marine I hate the Democratic Party. It's the truth, I don't care for them. I guess since I don't care for Democrats that makes me ignorant and small minded. I think in the last 38 years Americans have only put 2 in office.

oh well I guess I'm just so **** ignorant it's a wonder I can walk through a door. :D

dang in the last 2 days I've been an idiot, a jackass **** jarhead, an *******, ignorant and small minded. I need a hug. :DI doubt our poster from Oregon who called you small-minded could name any modern-day Dim politicians who are truly worthy of respect. I can't think of one. Maybe Jos. Lieberman, half-way is due respect. For you, a virtual hug from me!

usmc-sooner

2/17/2007, 09:17 PM

usmc, you said you hated democrats, then you changed to the democratic party. there's a difference. i think the democratic party is a corrupt institution (as is the republican party) -- but saying you hate democrats was what i was responding to.

I was pretty sure that nobody would take "democrats" as every democrat in America but the party as whole.

you forget I'm a small minded ignorant stereotyper, sometimes I assume too much.

usmc-sooner

2/17/2007, 09:19 PM

so hating any group of people makes one small minded?

I think you're allowed to hate the President of the United States, Republicans, Christians, and Global Warming non believers.

PDXsooner

2/17/2007, 09:32 PM

i wish you guys were funnier, so i could laugh with you.

usmc-sooner

2/17/2007, 09:33 PM

i wish you guys were funnier, so i could laugh with you.

sorry but it's the best us ignorant small minded people can do.

my sincere apologies.

jdsooner

2/17/2007, 11:09 PM

The funny thing is that the Democrats were the ones that got us into Vietnam and it was the Republicans (Nixon) who got us out.

For the record, I am a Democrat and thought that we should have stayed out of Iraq, since Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. I also find it wrong to invade other countries with no provocation. How long do you think it will take to win the peace in Iraq?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

2/17/2007, 11:33 PM

def_lazer_fc

2/18/2007, 12:14 AM

Fixed. And in case you haven't noticed, Vietnam and Iraq are VERY different situations.

yeah, ones in vietnam, the other in iraq.

and did anyone else vomit a little in their mouth when that rep. congresswoman said "gitrdone" on the floor of congress?

Mongo

2/18/2007, 12:39 AM

yeah, ones in vietnam, the other in iraq.

and did anyone else vomit a little in their mouth when that rep. congresswoman said "gitrdone" on the floor of congress?

I dont care which side of the isle you come from, that statement proves you listen to "Larry the Cable Guy", or admire his teachings; which means you have the IQ of my recently passed turd.

jdsooner

2/18/2007, 03:09 AM

Fixed. And in case you haven't noticed, Vietnam and Iraq are VERY different situations.

Yeah, one is in the desert and the other was in the jungle. And your point is?:confused:

1stTimeCaller

2/18/2007, 03:30 AM

there were no camels in Vietnam.

def_lazer_fc

2/18/2007, 04:38 AM

I dont care which side of the isle you come from, that statement proves you listen to "Larry the Cable Guy", or admire his teachings; which means you have the IQ of my recently passed turd.

it proves i know what his stupid catchphrase is. i do live in oklahoma with all the other hillbillies and rednecks so it's kind of inescapable.

and not to be a dick, but the "isle" you are referring to would be an aisle. (this is where i would normally reference you IQ and my turd.)

1stTimeCaller

2/18/2007, 05:09 AM

it proves i know what his stupid catchphrase is. i do live in oklahoma with all the other hillbillies and rednecks so it's kind of inescapable.

and not to be a dick, but the "isle" you are referring to would be an aisle. (this is where i would normally reference you IQ and my turd.)
the word you're looking for there is 'your'

;)