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Okla-homey
2/13/2007, 07:23 AM
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February 13, 1689 William and Mary proclaimed joint sovereigns of Britain

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Note: This is not an actual photograph of William and Mary...because color photography had not been invented by the 17th c. sheesh! ;)

318 years ago today, following Britain's bloodless Glorious Revolution, Mary, the daughter of the deposed king, and the Dutch princeWilliam of Orange, her husband, are proclaimed joint sovereigns of Great Britain under Britain's new Bill of Rights.

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King William of Orange and Queen Mary

William, a Dutch prince, married Mary, who was the Protestant daughter of the future King James II by his first wife, in 1677. After James' succession to the English throne in 1685, his Dutch Protestant son-in-law William kept in close contact with the British opposition to the Catholic king. The opposition was mostly concerned that James II would have son, which would lead to a monarchical dynasty of British Catholic kings.

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Yep, they are the same William and Mary for whom the College of William and Mary founded in 1693 during their reign, in Williamsburg VA are named. W&M is the second oldest college in America.

You see, ever since King Henry VIII had in 1529 declared himself head of the English Church and thus separated the English Church from the Church of Rome in order to divorce his long-suffering first wife Catherine and marry the court hussy Anne Boleyn, there had been fears a Catholic monarch might someday regain the English throne -- thus spoiling Anglican (aka "Episcopal") dominance of religious matters in Great Britian.

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King James II, a Catholic, given the boot by the English in favor of Protestants William and Mary

James II attempted to promote the Roman Catholic cause by dismissing judges and Lord Lieutenants who refused to support the withdrawal of laws penalising religious dissidents, appointing Catholics to important academic posts, and to senior military and political positions. Within three years, the majority of James's subjects had been alienated.

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James III

After the birth of James III, an heir to James II in 1688, seven high-ranking Protestant members of Parliament invited William and Mary to England. William landed at Torbay in Devonshire with an army of 15,000 men and advanced to London, meeting no opposition from James' army, which had deserted the king because of his appointments of Catholics to positions of leadership in the army and navy.

James II and his family himself were allowed to escape to France, and in February 1689 Parliament offered the crown jointly to William and Mary, provided they accept the Bill of Rights.

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Royal Arms of William and Mary -- the three lions are for England, the single red lion is for Scotland, and the harp is for Ireland, the "fleur-de-lis" are for France.

Interestingly, this same James II, from the House of Stuart was the grandfather of Prince Charles Edward Stuart (1720-1788) AKA "Bonnie Prince Charlie" who would leave France to lead the failed "Jacobite Rebellion" ("Jacob" is Latin for "James") for Scottish independence from England in 1745. Charlie sought the Scottish throne, thus restoring a Catholic Stuart to the family's "rightful" place as the royal family of Scotland. As stated, Charlie failed and died in exile in Rome in 1788.

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Bonnie Prince Charlie

The 1689 English Bill of Rights, which greatly limited royal power and broadened the rights of certain British subjects, granted Parliament control of finances and the army and prescribed the future line of royal succession, declaring that no Roman Catholic would ever be sovereign of England.

The document also stated that Englishmen possessed certain inviolable civil and political rights, a political concept that was a major influence in the composition of the U.S. Bill of Rights, composed almost exactly a century later. In fact, many of our first ten amendments, known as the US Bill of Rights, track directly to this document.

The 1689 English Bill of Rights states the following:


That the pretended power of suspending the laws or the execution of laws by regal authority without consent of Parliament is illegal;

That the pretended power of dispensing with laws or the execution of laws by regal authority, as it hath been assumed and exercised of late, is illegal;

That the commission for erecting the late Court of Commissioners for Ecclesiastical Causes, and all other commissions and courts of like nature, are illegal and pernicious;

That levying money for or to the use of the Crown by pretence of prerogative, without grant of Parliament, for longer time, or in other manner than the same is or shall be granted, is illegal;

That it is the right of the subjects to petition the king, and all commitments and prosecutions for such petitioning are illegal;

That the raising or keeping a standing army within the kingdom in time of peace, unless it be with consent of Parliament, is against law;

That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;

That election of members of Parliament ought to be free;

That the freedom of speech and debates or proceedings in Parliament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any court or place out of Parliament;

That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted;

That jurors ought to be duly impanelled and returned, and jurors which pass upon men in trials for high treason ought to be freeholders;

That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegal and void;

And that for redress of all grievances, and for the amending, strengthening and preserving of the laws, Parliaments ought to be held frequently.

The Glorious Revolution, the ascension of William and Mary, and the acceptance of the Bill of Rights were decisive victories for Parliament in its long struggle against the absolute power of the British crown.

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tbl
2/13/2007, 08:10 AM
Dirty catholics and their tricky schemes....

BlondeSoonerGirl
2/13/2007, 10:22 AM
Speaking of Parliament...

My brother's girlfriend is a very petite, sweet, cute, very innocent-looking girl. I mean...bubble gum cute.

She was going through the drive-thru at Church's Fried Chicken and an older black gentleman was working the window. He heard Parliament - whom she LOVES - playing on her car stereo.

He said 'you like Parliament?...whatchoo know about Parliament?'...

And she said 'I know they do it to you in your earhole!'...

And he laughed like crazy and gave her 4 free biscuits.

JohnnyMack
2/13/2007, 10:29 AM
Generic cigarettes rule.

BlondeSoonerGirl
2/13/2007, 10:41 AM
Oh...and good thread as usual, Homey-san...

C&CDean
2/13/2007, 10:50 AM
William and Mary are responsible for more American deaths....wait, wrong thread.

mikeelikee
2/13/2007, 11:26 AM
William and Mary, dey says, "We need the funk! Gotta have the funk!" :D

TUSooner
2/13/2007, 11:53 AM
I read all of Churchill's biography of the Duke Marlborough to learn what Homey 'splained in less than a page.

I like that ecclesiastical courts are not just "illegal" like that other stuff, they are "illegal AND PERNICIOUS" whoooooo

KaiserSooner
2/13/2007, 12:09 PM
Homey, I expect a thread on the 300th anniversary of the 1707 Acts of Union coming up on May 1 ;)


The 1689 English Bill of Rights granted Parliament control of the future line of royal succession, declaring that no Roman Catholic would ever be sovereign of England.

In light of this, William III's successor (Mary II died in 1694, leaving the throne entirely to William) was Mary's sister, Anne. Anne died in 1714 without a direct heir.

Anticipating this, and hoping to pre-empt any moves by the Old Pretender (James Stuart, the Catholic son of King James II), parliament passed legislation that made a German princess, Electress Sophia of Hannover (a granddaughter of James I), the heir. She died before Anne, so she never became queen, but her son George took her place, becoming the first monarch (King George I) of the Hannover line.

Okla-homey
2/13/2007, 04:09 PM
Homey, I expect a thread on the 300th anniversary of the 1707 Acts of Union coming up on May 1 ;)



In light of this, William III's successor (Mary II died in 1694, leaving the throne entirely to William) was Mary's sister, Anne. Anne died in 1714 without a direct heir.

Anticipating this, and hoping to pre-empt any moves by the Old Pretender (James Stuart, the Catholic son of King James II), parliament passed legislation that made a German princess, Electress Sophia of Hannover (a granddaughter of James I), the heir. She died before Anne, so she never became queen, but her son George took her place, becoming the first monarch (King George I) of the Hannover line.

Aye. The first "German George."

BlondeSoonerGirl
2/13/2007, 05:09 PM
My funny story ain't getting near enough love here.

IB4OU2
2/13/2007, 05:14 PM
My funny story ain't getting near enough love here.

Wer'e all outta biscuits.;)