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SoonerAcesUp
2/7/2007, 11:59 PM
Why can't the LNC look like it did tonight for every game? It's a middle of the week game and that place was packed ! I know it was against OSU but our team deserves the kind of effort the crowd gave tonight for every home game. This team plays hard!!! We're far from the most talented team but they give everything they've got. Great crowd tonight!!!! We don't just have to be a football school!

colleyvillesooner
2/8/2007, 12:11 AM
Crowd was AWESOME on TV.


OOOOOO SSSSSSSS UUUUUUUU SUCKS!

I would kill to hear that in unison like that at a FB game. It would rule.

scotplum
2/8/2007, 12:19 AM
I gotta say, it seemed like there were a lot of OSU fans there.

colleyvillesooner
2/8/2007, 12:20 AM
Sheep expo was also in town. Just a coincidence. ;)

stoopified
2/8/2007, 12:26 AM
I have been following OU basketball for the last quarter century or so(that is 25 years for the math impaired)and it has essentially been THE GOLDEN ERA OF OU BASKETBALL and yet the spport has NEVER been consistently there for hoops.Ican't say that it will NEVER change but I have my doubts.If further proof is needed check OUr own boards.We are in the middle of basketball season and coming off a win over a RANKED(#17) and hated foe in oSu and there are 28 members on the basketball board and over 100 on the football board(football has een over for a month).YeahI know it was signing day but the disparity exists every day.I am as guilty as anyone because I live and die OU football and Iam an intrested fan of the baseball and basketball teams>Ido however follow basketball more closely than baseball.

batonrougesooner
2/8/2007, 12:29 AM
I was there tonight. It seemed to me like 90% of the time the place was as quiet as a tomb. Near the end and during some key moments the crowd got into it but all and all I wasn't too impressed with the crowd.

It had been a few years since I last attended an OU BB game however. My last one was the infamous "shot clock" game against Tech.

Why don't we just pony up the money to build a real BB arena? The money is there or could be found with little difficulty I would imagine.

stoopified
2/8/2007, 12:30 AM
I gotta say, it seemed like there were a lot of OSU fans there.I noticed that too.What really bothered me was that a lot of them were in the lower section in DONOR SEATING.It chaps me to know that OU donors gave or sold their tickets to cowpuke fans.

scotplum
2/8/2007, 12:34 AM
I noticed that too.What really bothered me was taht a lot of them ere in the lower section in DONOR SEATING.It chaps me to know that OU donors gave or sold their tickets to cowpuke fans.

I don't know if they showed it on TV but being at the game, there were about 3 rows right behind the OSU basket that I think is student seating full of OSU fans. In reality it was probably only 15 fans or so but still I don't understand how that happens.

SleestakSooner
2/8/2007, 12:36 AM
It was ****ing me off to see the aggots there in large enough numbers to have their own poke cheering section.

Also the aggot bitz that screamed like someone had just dropped her from a high rise building when Nate made his first free throw needed to be escorted from the building or have a sock stuffed in her yap!

Aggies listen up... don't come to our house and act like you own the place. About the only thing you own is a sugar daddy and functioning alcoholics.

OUstud
2/8/2007, 12:38 AM
I was there tonight. It seemed to me like 90% of the time the place was as quiet as a tomb. Near the end and during some key moments the crowd got into it but all and all I wasn't too impressed with the crowd.

It had been a few years since I last attended an OU BB game however. My last one was the infamous "shot clock" game against Tech.

Why don't we just pony up the money to build a real BB arena? The money is there or could be found with little difficulty I would imagine.

You would think the money's there, then you realize that we can't afford to fix our stat boards or skipping sound system. :mad:

scotplum
2/8/2007, 12:42 AM
You would think the money's there, then you realize that we can't afford to fix our stat boards or skipping sound system. :mad:

Damn stat board! I left the game thinking Nate only had 4 points. ;)

SleestakSooner
2/8/2007, 01:19 AM
Why can't the LNC look like it did tonight for every game? It's a middle of the week game and that place was packed ! I know it was against OSU but our team deserves the kind of effort the crowd gave tonight for every home game. This team plays hard!!! We're far from the most talented team but they give everything they've got. Great crowd tonight!!!! We don't just have to be a football school!

It is just past midnight in Norman. The Sooners just got by far their best win of the year and beat their in-state rival. But there are still three times as many people reading the foolsball forums than there are viewing the basketball forums.

I do realize that yesterday was signing day and lots of people want to read about the new football recruits. But by and large most OU football fans wouldn't give a rats *** about OU basketball.

Until the Sooners win a True National Championship in basketball that won't change, and even then it might not. There are always plenty of seats for the baseball home games even though the Sooners won the college world series not that long ago. :(

poke4christ
2/8/2007, 01:27 AM
Crowd was AWESOME on TV.


OOOOOO SSSSSSSS UUUUUUUU SUCKS!

I would kill to hear that in unison like that at a FB game. It would rule.

2003 ******. Trust me, I was there. It was the ENTIRE stadium and it was annoying as hell :D.

poke4christ
2/8/2007, 01:28 AM
It was ****ing me off to see the aggots there in large enough numbers to have their own poke cheering section.

Also the aggot bitz that screamed like someone had just dropped her from a high rise building when Nate made his first free throw needed to be escorted from the building or have a sock stuffed in her yap!

Aggies listen up... don't come to our house and act like you own the place. About the only thing you own is a sugar daddy and functioning alcoholics.

If you don't want us there, then it's real simple. Buy the tickets.

IronSooner
2/8/2007, 01:30 AM
We have this conversation every year. Unfortunately I haven't been able to go to a game since I was a student there a few years ago. But in short, LNC sucks. It's an awful venue for basketball. The top seats are too dark and the student section (at least when I was there, and from what I could tell a year or two ago, the revised version) isn't that imposing. Donors are way too close, most people prefer to sit the whole game and stand only when we make a big shot. I actually got yelled at vehemently by OU students for standing the whole game once (when I was also a student).

OU is a football school, always has been, always will be. Unfortunately basketball will probably always take a back seat, at least until we win an NC as Sleestack noted. I'd love it to be nuts in there and exciting, but it just isn't. Maybe a better venue would help (we've discussed the old field house many a time here) but the fans need to get with it one of these years and show up for every game, not just osu and UT.

scotplum
2/8/2007, 01:34 AM
If you don't want us there, then it's real simple. Buy the tickets.

Yep, very true. At the very least, don't give/sell your tickets to the opposing team's fans. I agree poke.

SleestakSooner
2/8/2007, 01:57 AM
If you don't want us there, then it's real simple. Buy the tickets.

What do I need to buy to make you leave here? :stunned:

GottaHavePride
2/8/2007, 02:02 AM
I think it's because LNC tries to be a multi-purpose arena, and you can't do things that would make it a better basketball arena. Namely: benches. **** chairbacks for the students. In a real college basketball arena, 3/4 of the place should be benches that encourage you to getoff your ***, just like at the football stadium. There should only be an itty-bitty section of chairbacks for the fat-cat donors, and even those should be confined to one side of the stadium - right over behind the team benches. Everything else should be benches, and the student section should ring the damn court.

Oh, and additionally, a basketball arena should be built as some sort of a rectangle, so the seats can get right up on the court. LNC is built as a circle, meaning you're left with big gaps of floor right by the court that you can't put any seats on.

poke4christ
2/8/2007, 02:05 AM
Damn stat board! I left the game thinking Nate only had 4 points. ;)

Dude, that was annoying me the whole game. I'm glad someone else noticed too. I was worried that the controllers were just getting lazy.

Also, what the heck is the deal with the student tickets? I came about thirty minutes before and the student section had filled. However, they still had tickets that were sold. They were turning us away from the section our ticket was for :rolleyes: :mad:. We just ended up finding a place, but we got kicked out a few times and the game was well underway before we got solidified. That's just a moronic system. How the heck do you have general admission interspersed with reserved seating?

Next, I was getting into the game, so I stood up. Not 10 seconds later, a guy taps me on the back and tells me to sit down. I couldn't hardly believe it. Nothing even close to that had ever happened to me at a sporting event. What's amateur with people? I ended up having to sit on the end and stand in the stairway (first row of upper section) so I didn't get in anybody's way :rolleyes:. Maybe this sounds like I'm overreacting, but I can't imagine something like this ever happening at GIA. However, I spend most of my time in the student section.

Anyway, I don't want to sound like I'm dogging it too much because it actually was an overall enjoyable game. LNC was very loud and I was impressed. I wasn't expecting that much noise. There was even a good push during the times when OSU was making runs. That really wasn't expected. OU had a great atmosphere there tonight.

Zach

King Crimson
2/8/2007, 02:09 AM
I think it's because LNC tries to be a multi-purpose arena, and you can't do things that would make it a better basketball arena. Namely: benches. **** chairbacks for the students. In a real college basketball arena, 3/4 of the place should be benches that encourage you to getoff your ***, just like at the football stadium. There should only be an itty-bitty section of chairbacks for the fat-cat donors, and even those should be confined to one side of the stadium - right over behind the team benches. Everything else should be benches, and the student section should ring the damn court.

Oh, and additionally, a basketball arena should be built as some sort of a rectangle, so the seats can get right up on the court. LNC is built as a circle, meaning you're left with big gaps of floor right by the court that you can't put any seats on.

not "real basketball arenas" built in the late 70's and early 80's when there were a lot of concerts at LNC. and watch Purdue or Illinois next time they play a home game....looks circular just like the LNC around the court and they rock.

overall, i agree with you (though i don't see benches anymore)....and i wish the new practice facilities would have been built somewhere else so we weren't married to the LNC....and then the University could have admitted we got our money's worth in 77 or whenever and made a move somewhere else....McCasland FH or across Jenkins to the South Base property....wherever.

King Crimson
2/8/2007, 02:10 AM
I think it's because LNC tries to be a multi-purpose arena, and you can't do things that would make it a better basketball arena. Namely: benches. **** chairbacks for the students. In a real college basketball arena, 3/4 of the place should be benches that encourage you to getoff your ***, just like at the football stadium. There should only be an itty-bitty section of chairbacks for the fat-cat donors, and even those should be confined to one side of the stadium - right over behind the team benches. Everything else should be benches, and the student section should ring the damn court.

Oh, and additionally, a basketball arena should be built as some sort of a rectangle, so the seats can get right up on the court. LNC is built as a circle, meaning you're left with big gaps of floor right by the court that you can't put any seats on.

not "real basketball arenas" built in the late 70's and early 80's when there were a lot of concerts at LNC. and watch Purdue or Illinois next time they play a home game....looks circular just like the LNC around the court and they rock.

overall, i agree with you (though i don't see benches anymore)....and i wish the new practice facilities would have been built somewhere else so we weren't married to the LNC....and then the University could have admitted we got our money's worth in 77 or whenever and made a move somewhere else....McCasland FH or across Jenkins to the South Base property....wherever. about an 8000 seat joint.

poke4christ
2/8/2007, 02:11 AM
What do I need to buy to make you leave here? :stunned:

Why does a person have to work to make money?
Why does a person have to exercise to lose weight?
Why does a person have to make good grades to graduate?

The only thing that you get for nothing is the salvation that is from Jesus Christ and is by Faith.

IronSooner
2/8/2007, 02:31 AM
watch Purdue or Illinois next time they play a home game....looks circular just like the LNC around the court and they rock.


Illinois is circular. They also have chairs throughout the place. It's pretty dark near the top as well. It's also a multi-purpose venue (I saw van halen there several years ago) Overall not a great place on paper. But they do rock. They're pretty much the antithesis of OU though. I attended a football game once where people left to go watch the basketball team scrimmage. No lie. It's just a big basketball school, it's what they hang their hat on. Serious fans can overcome crappy venues, but we definitely need one or the other. Right now I can't honestly say we have either.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
2/8/2007, 08:00 AM
I wouldn't exactly say it was packed. I was in N2 and there were empty seats all over the lower level.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
2/8/2007, 08:05 AM
Oh and on a positive note, our section stood the whole time--except during the marketing games.

OUSKINS
2/8/2007, 08:59 AM
LNC isn't a great venue, but to say that a new arena would change the attitude of Sooner fans is silly. Sure, it would have an appeal for a year or so, but the luster would wear off.

As a Sooner, it frustrates me, but it's simply true and I've come to accept it:

OU is a football school first, then everything else is a distant second. It doesn't matter where they play, or even how many titles the basketball team wins. It's just the way it is.

I'm in the great minority of OU people-- college football ranks 5th on my "favorites" list of the 5 major sports behind (in order) the NFL, NBA, MLB, and college hoops. But I've learned to not fight it, and just accept it for what it is.

SoonerAcesUp
2/8/2007, 10:13 AM
Why do we have to be just a football school? If we want to be one of the best universities in the nation we've got to support all sports. And you can't tell me that it can't be done! Florida was doing it well before they were winning national championships. That's one of the reasons they get the players to win championships. Who doesn't want to play in that atmosphere? Why do you think OSU can get great players? It definitely isn't because of location. GIA is a great place for a basketball game. Their passionate about their basketball. If we want to keep Capel for very long we need to show him the type of support this team deserves. He's made this team into something a majority of people never thought they could be this season--competitive! And fun to watch!

The_Red_Patriot
2/8/2007, 10:48 AM
Too many Cowpuke fans there.

Reasons?

1. Red River game/OU Basketball season ticke package-- Alot of people buy this to go to OU/tx and never attend a Basketball game--Empty bought seats.

2.Bandwagon OU fans--They only attend something when it has success.

GoState
2/8/2007, 11:06 AM
The home crowd was pretty good last night. It might not have been totally packed, but the crowd responded well at critical parts in the 2nd half when we were making a run. I was pleasantly surprised by the number of orange-clad fans in attendance. This was my fifth trip to LNC for OSU/OU and every time, I've walked right up to the ticket office and gotten right in.

I've said it here before, but the problem with LNC is that the acoustics are too good. That's great for concerts and non-sporting events, but when you want crazy noise...not so much. GIA is a horrible place to attend a concert because the sound is way too tinny/bright and it's got crazy echoing, but those same characteristics help make it VERY loud for sporting events. And as others mentioned above, it helps that the seats are just a few feet from the court.

colleyvillesooner
2/8/2007, 11:08 AM
2003 ******. Trust me, I was there. It was the ENTIRE stadium and it was annoying as hell :D.

I was there too, but in football, we just add the SUCKS! I want the whole thing :D

Rook65
2/8/2007, 11:26 AM
We need better cheese for the nachos.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
2/8/2007, 11:39 AM
I saw Mrs. Dean. Evidently I barely missed Boarder's crew.

OSUAggie
2/8/2007, 11:40 AM
k...

The place was not packed. It was not loud (other than a few times when the teams started trading baskets in the 2nd half and then at the end of the game). The student sections being split up into 8 different places is stupid. The promo games at EVERY f'ing timeout don't encourage any sort of atmosphere.

There are so many things wrong with that place that it's too lengthy to discuss. No part of the experience is conducive to encouraging consistent attendance by an apathetic fanbase, other than the product on the court, which this year is down from previous years (although they've improved greatly and obviously have caused euphoria among some of the fans).

As for the game, OU made their free throws and made plays down the stretch to win the game. Impressive in that regard. OSU needs to get their **** together before they drop to an 8-9 game or worse.

MikeInNorman
2/8/2007, 11:47 AM
k...

The place was not packed. It was not loud (other than a few times when the teams started trading baskets in the 2nd half and then at the end of the game). The student sections being split up into 8 different places is stupid. The promo games at EVERY f'ing timeout don't encourage any sort of atmosphere.

There are so many things wrong with that place that it's too lengthy to discuss. No part of the experience is conducive to encouraging consistent attendance by an apathetic fanbase, other than the product on the court, which this year is down from previous years (although they've improved greatly and obviously have caused euphoria among some of the fans).

As for the game, OU made their free throws and made plays down the stretch to win the game. Impressive in that regard. OSU needs to get their **** together before they drop to an 8-9 game or worse.


Thank you, Oh Expert On What Is Wrong With The LNC.

And Aggy Basketball Genius. Nearly forgot that.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
2/8/2007, 11:51 AM
k...

The place was not packed. It was not loud (other than a few times when the teams started trading baskets in the 2nd half and then at the end of the game). The student sections being split up into 8 different places is stupid. The promo games at EVERY f'ing timeout don't encourage any sort of atmosphere.

There are so many things wrong with that place that it's too lengthy to discuss. No part of the experience is conducive to encouraging consistent attendance by an apathetic fanbase, other than the product on the court, which this year is down from previous years (although they've improved greatly and obviously have caused euphoria among some of the fans).

As for the game, OU made their free throws and made plays down the stretch to win the game. Impressive in that regard. OSU needs to get their **** together before they drop to an 8-9 game or worse.I suppose in your next diatribe you are going to talk about how awesome Booger Pickings Stadium is. :rolleyes:

boomersooner82
2/8/2007, 11:59 AM
The fact that there were any empty seats last night is pathetic, and I saw several. It's a Catch-22: If you build a new arena (probably not happening for at least 20-30 years, if ever) you'll get better attendence for awhile (novelty), but for anyone to consider building a new arena fans need to start showing more consistent interest in the basketball program and selling out more games.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
2/8/2007, 12:22 PM
The fact that there were any empty seats last night is pathetic, and I saw several. It's a Catch-22: If you build a new arena (probably not happening for at least 20-30 years, if ever) you'll get better attendence for awhile (novelty), but for anyone to consider building a new arena fans need to start showing more consistent interest in the basketball program and selling out more games.Wait. You mean we shouldn't adopt the aggy philosophy of expanding a sporting venue when there are consistently empty seats?

NormanPride
2/8/2007, 12:25 PM
I wouldn't mind a smaller arena that has the ability to expand if/when we sell out more. Why can't we do that? We should merge the new BBall arena with O'Connell's, since OU owns that land now. How awesome would THAT be?

MikeInNorman
2/8/2007, 01:51 PM
way to contribute.

Is that you OSU Aggie?

Why of course it is, not being signed and all.

If you participated in spek, this would be a big old neg, just for you.

OUstud
2/8/2007, 04:09 PM
I think it's because LNC tries to be a multi-purpose arena, and you can't do things that would make it a better basketball arena. Namely: benches. **** chairbacks for the students. In a real college basketball arena, 3/4 of the place should be benches that encourage you to getoff your ***, just like at the football stadium. There should only be an itty-bitty section of chairbacks for the fat-cat donors, and even those should be confined to one side of the stadium - right over behind the team benches. Everything else should be benches, and the student section should ring the damn court.

Oh, and additionally, a basketball arena should be built as some sort of a rectangle, so the seats can get right up on the court. LNC is built as a circle, meaning you're left with big gaps of floor right by the court that you can't put any seats on.

WINNER! (and it can be done, that was one of the first things Bruce Pearl did at Tennessee, take the chairs out of the student section).

And I hate to break it to you all, but Aggie was right on the LNC. When I'm looking around afraid that the almighty Aggy is laughing at us while we can't operate a scoreboard or sound system, there is a problem. It's just little things that can be improved, like moving the students in a ring, like GottaHavePride said. That would be awesome, considering I'm probably going to be a student there in 2 years.

SoonerStud615
2/8/2007, 05:09 PM
Oh and on a positive note, our section stood the whole time--except during the marketing games.
I was in N2 as well. Go us. I was in row G.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
2/8/2007, 05:18 PM
I was in N2 as well. Go us. I was in row G.I was in Row E. Thank you www.frontrowfans.com (http://www.frontrowfans.com)