So Tony Dungy is the first guy from Africa to win the SuperBowl

[usmc-sooner]

Sorry I just hate all the PC. The PCers go out of their way to set them apart. Dungy is a good coach and a good man, as is Luvie Smith but they aint no more African than I am.

I also like in Dungy's interview when he said more important than "two African American men" was two Christian men.

[Sooner in Tampa]

I agree completely.

Semper Fi

[Mjcpr]

I heard something about that.

[sooneron]

A jew coach really would have ruined the SB.

[usmc-sooner]

A jew coach really would have ruined the SB.

Isn't Grossman Jewish. Although I doubt he's from Jew.:D

[sooneron]

Nope-
http://www.jewishsports.com/news/fall2000.htm

[OklahomaTuba]

I wish someone would ask Peyton how it feels to be the first homosexual QB to win a SB.

[royalfan5]

I wish someone would ask Peyton how it feels to be the first homosexual QB to win a SB.
Troy Aikman won 3 Super Bowls already.

[usmc-sooner]

You never here people referring to European Americans.

[sooneron]

You never here people referring to European Americans.
You've never heard Irish american, or italian american?

[royalfan5]

You never here people referring to European Americans.
I don't want my ancestory lumped in with the French and British. Give me Prussian-American

[fadada1]

please, from this point forward, refer to me as a german-scottish-irish american. i will be offended at anything resembling white, cracker, or caucasian. TIA.

[usmc-sooner]

You've never heard Irish american, or italian american?

I haven't

I've heard people say I'm Irish or Italian. Living in NY you'd probably hear this more than me. I honestly don't know many Italians or Irish or at least if I do they don't identify themselves like this.

BTW I said European Americans. Irish and Italy are countries, not continents like Africa and Europe. When you say African or European your lumping a large space in there.

[Mjcpr]

I don't think we're supposed to be talking about this.

[OUDoc]

please, from this point forward, refer to me as a german-scottish-irish american. i will be offended at anything resembling white, cracker, or caucasian. TIA.
Honky.

[sooneron]

I haven't

I've heard people say I'm Irish or Italian.
You don't consider that the same if they say it with a 'merican accent?



Living in NY you'd probably here this more than me. I honestly don't know many Italians or Irish or at least if I do they don't identify themselves like this.

BTW I said European Americans. Irish and Italy are countries, not continents like Africa and Europe. When you say African or European your lumping a large space in there.

Well, when you aren't sure of when or where it was that your ancestor got whacked on the head and thrown onto a boat, you tend to generalize.

I also think that people that moved west or towards the central part of the US mixed more and diluted their ancestry. There are still pockets of the old world culture, but there are very few. They began to part with the old ways and find more of an American identity.

You can pretty much tell an American just by getting a phrase out of them.

[usmc-sooner]

You don't consider that the same if they say it with a 'merican accent?



Well, when you aren't sure of when or where it was that your ancestor got whacked on the head and thrown onto a boat, you tend to generalize.



that's what I'm talking about, this happened to their ancestors, and BTW all races have been slaves, and Black Africans also had slaves. My ancestors weren't all from America but I don't claim to be European American or something else. I just think it's stupid. IMO

[OSUAggie]

I don't think we're supposed to be talking about this.

Wanna go to the gap?


Is Dungy 100% black or is he 50/50ish?

[sooneron]

that's what I'm talking about, this happened to their ancestors, and BTW all races have been slaves, and Black Africans also had slaves. My ancestors weren't all from America but I don't claim to be European American or something else. I just think it's stupid. IMO
I think a lot of it will end someday.

[bri]

When the Bears called timeout before the Colts' field goal try before halftime, I was like, "Lovie Smith is the first black coach to ever ice a kicker in the Super Bowl!!!" :D

[Hatfield]

alls i know is that dungy said god likes indy a hell of a lot more than chicago.

[sanantoniosooner]

These topics always make me proud to be a cracker.

[KaiserSooner]

Give me Prussian-American

I doubt you want the historical baggage that goes with Prussian.

;)

I'll take Scot-Irish-German-American :D

[royalfan5]

I doubt you want the historical baggage that goes with Prussian.

;)

I'll take Scot-Irish-German-American :D
Everybody makes some mistakes, and at least we picked up some W's in Wars unlike the Irish and the Scotch.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

...BTW all races have been slaves...

Can I get me some reparations?

[TUSooner]

Relax, eventually we'll run out of "firsts" and everybody will shut up. :)

[Partial Qualifier]

They started the telecast off with a bang by saying something about "these two dignified coaches". Geeze. Why not throw in some "well-spoken" and "articulate" for good measure :confused:

[Mongo]

Those two coaches were so courageous for having the sack to show up at the biggest football event and lead their teams. '

So courageous.

[IronSooner]

Actually I read a book or two in college that used the term "European American". And just like "African American", I had a good laugh.

I'm really hoping we can get over this and move on, but I'm not sure we will. Maybe when we've interbred enough to be one color we'll shut up about it.

[VeeJay]

For a little excitement, Michael Richards should have been walking the SB trophy up to the podium rather than that boring crusty old politically correct Don Shula.

[jk the sooner fan]

These topics always make me proud to be a cracker.

i know, thank god the lighter skinned black guy won the game huh? ;)

[bri]

Yeah, because this way we get our first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl, but we still haven't had a black coach do it. :D

[jk the sooner fan]

i'd swear that Tony Dungy is actually carribbean :)

[oumartin]

I really didn't mind hearing about it so much but the commercial that was all about them both being in the super bowl kinda turned my stomach.

oh, and this is february..

[bri]

Yeah, after a couple of those first quarter commercials (especially the Frito-Lay one) I couldn't help but ask "What were those commercials selling? Liberal guilt?"

I mean I support free porn, forced abortions, and concetration camps for Christians as much as the next Godless leftist, but even I thought those ads were a bit over the top. ;)

[OhU1]

I've never heard anyone claim to be an English-American. That's what I am. I don't even claim that one of my ancestors is 1/32 Cherokee and that I'm an Indian. No Indian blood disclaimer.

[OklahomaRed]

Dungy definitely has some "chocolate milk" going on. The dude's got freckles! I think it's silly to put labels on people. You are either good, mediocre, or bad. It doesn't take any specific skin tone differentiating for me to tell you if someone is any of the above. Let their ability and record speak for themselves. The media has way to much time on their hands if they have to invent some type of "first".

I'm more worried about what state someone is from? I'm an Oklahoma-American. I don't trust anyone from "up north" ! :D

[KaiserSooner]

I mean I support free porn, forced abortions, and concetration camps for Christians as much as the next Godless leftist, but even I thought those ads were a bit over the top. ;)

Dude, yer just killin' me. I might have to quote this.

[Harry Beanbag]

I support free porn,


I'm glad that we finally found some common ground. :)

[Harry Beanbag]

They started the telecast off with a bang by saying something about "these two dignified coaches". Geeze. Why not throw in some "well-spoken" and "articulate" for good measure :confused:


After all that rain, I'm sure they were "clean" too.

[KaiserSooner]

Everybody makes some mistakes, and at least we picked up some W's in Wars

I dunno, methinks those Ws were quickly buried a nullified by a couple of unmitigated disasters, namely WW1 and WW2.

:D


unlike the Irish and the Scotch.

Scot-Irish folk don't typically identify with a nation, so any wars by either the Scottish or Irish aren't of concern to me.

[royalfan5]

I dunno, methinks those Ws were quickly buried a nullified by a couple of unmitigated disasters, namely WW1 and WW2.

:D



Scot-Irish folk don't typically identify with a nation, so any wars by either the Scottish or Irish aren't of concern to me.
Coincidentally those disaster happened after my family immigrated to America. I think there is a connection.

Of course Scot-Irish folk don't indentify with a nation because they couldn't get their own. They are the Okie State, and K-State of Europe.

[OUstud]

Nope-
http://www.jewishsports.com/news/fall2000.htm

So there hasn't been any Jewish athlete news since 2000? :pop:

[bri]

Dude, you take that back or else I will stab you in the face with a broken Guinness bottle. :mad:

[royalfan5]

Dude, you take that back or else I will stab you in the face with a broken Guinness bottle. :mad:
Think about it. What is Ireland good at? Rugby. What is Rugby? The College Wrestling of international sports.

[Harry Beanbag]

Think about it. What is Ireland good at? Rugby. What is Rugby? The College Wrestling of international sports.


They make Guinness. That's really all they need to do.

[bri]

EXACTLY!

We don't need to do anything else. We've MORE than proven our worth to you sorry lot.

:les: BRILLIANT!!!

[royalfan5]

They make Guinness. That's really all they need to do.
Exactly, it's just like OSU being really good at golf too. The Irish citizen I know is a Oklahoma State alum. Just saying theres a connection there.

[royalfan5]

EXACTLY!

We don't need to do anything else. We've MORE than proven our worth to you sorry lot.

:les: BRILLIANT!!!

Nothing but a poser beer. Look at me, I drink Guinness, I'm hard core. Guinness is the Fallout Boy of beers.

[GottaHavePride]

Heh. "Look at me! I drink Spaten Optimator!"

[bri]

Oooh, hipster smack from the guy from ****in' Nebraska.

Perhaps you could supply us with list of acceptable beers and have it put on the back of a belt.

[royalfan5]

Oooh, hipster smack from the guy from ****in' Nebraska.

Perhaps you could supply us with list of acceptable beers and have it put on the back of a belt.
There isn't an acceptable beer now that they have ceased production of Falstaff.

[GottaHavePride]

There isn't an acceptable beer now that they have ceased production of Falstaff.

Then I'm thinking you need to try buying your beer somewhere with a slightly wider variety. ;)

[royalfan5]

Then I'm thinking you need to try buying your beer somewhere with a slightly wider variety. ;)
Sure there are plenty of beers that taste fine, but none approach the perfection of Falstaff.

[Sooner_Bob]

Heh

[Stoop Dawg]

Why are you guys hatin' on "light" colored beers?

Buncha racist pigs!!

[bri]

Hey, that's reverse racist pigs to you, mister.

[usmc-sooner]

I don't think Red Stripe would like being called an African American beer. :D

[bri]

Well, of course not.

They're Carribean-American. :D

[usmc-sooner]

Horay Carribean American Beer!!!

[TheHumanAlphabet]

If a white South African moves to the U.S. and naturalizes, is he/she an African-American?

I say yes and I hope they try to join the Congressional Black Caucus...

[usmc-sooner]

if I move to England and my kids and their kids stay there, will they be North American-English?

[sanantoniosooner]

Unfortunately I gave up the ability to single star this thread.

[usmc-sooner]

Unfortunately I gave up the ability to single star this thread.

go single star your wife, if she'll let you :D

[Mongo]

Unfortunately I gave up the ability to single star this thread.

just think, the money that you save can go towards your little procedure.:D

[bri]

Unfortunately I gave up the ability to single star this thread.

Social protest always comes with a price.

[sanantoniosooner]

Social protest always comes with a price.
Saving up to be a good father and buy my son a cello not made in China is social protest?

[bri]

Yes. You're protesting sucky cellos.

[royalfan5]

If a white South African moves to the U.S. and naturalizes, is he/she an African-American?

I say yes and I hope they try to join the Congressional Black Caucus...
They had a big to-do about that in Omaha a couple years back, because some students wanted to honor the Afrikaans kid during February.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

They had a big to-do about that in Omaha a couple years back, because some students wanted to honor the Afrikaans kid during February.

Too funny!! Diversity and labeling people can be a double-edged sword.