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Okla-homey
1/30/2007, 09:37 AM
....much to my chagrin.

Anyhoo, some fighting rooster afficionados got some big problems because they thought it was all cool and stuff if the cockfights were on Indian land. They were wrong. Now, they have federal convictions on their records and face stiff (no pun intended) fines.


Four men convicted as cockfight spectators By SUSAN HYLTON World Staff Writer
1/30/2007

They thought they had found a loophole in state law because the fight was on Indian land, a prosecutor says.

LAWTON -- Four men have been convicted for being spectators at a cockfight on Indian land in Caddo County.

The defendants are among the last of 75 people who were charged in federal court with cockfighting offenses after a July 22 raid at a cockfighting facility south of Carnegie.

Convicted after a three-day trial last week were Clay McHone, 47, of Harrah; Carl "Hank" Bardsher, 46, of Lawton; Donald Underwood, 71, of Foster; and Robert Langford, 54, of Wichita Falls, Texas. The convictions are misdemeanors, punishable by as much as a year in jail and/or a $100,000 fine.

McHone also was charged with transporting, delivering, sponsoring or exhibiting an animal in an animal-fighting venue, but jurors in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma could not reach a unanimous decision on the charge.

The office of Sheldon Sperling, U.S. attorney for the Muskogee-based Eastern District of Oklahoma, prosecuted the case in Lawton after Western District prosecutors recused themselves because they were acquainted with a former deputy U.S. marshal who was a defendant.

Sperling said he thought it was evident that the defendants had thought they found a loophole in the law by holding the event on an Indian trust allotment.

"Indian Country is not a no-man's land," he said. "Major crimes may be prosecuted pursuant to federal law in Indian Country, and other felonies and misdemeanors may be assimilated in Indian Country based on state law."

State Question 687, approved by voters in November 2002, made holding cockfights in Oklahoma a felony and attending a cockfighting event a misdemeanor. Sperling also noted that federal law outlaws animal fighting.

More than 70 people were prosecuted for attending the cockfight; 11 of them were charged with transporting animals for an animal fight.

The investigation resulted in felony convictions for only two defendants. Shan Gachot, 42 -- who originally was indicted on charges that he provided a pit for cockfighting and sponsored and exhibited fighting cocks that were transported across state lines -- entered a guilty plea on a charge of conducting an illegal gambling business.

Michael Daugherty pleaded guilty to sponsoring and exhibiting fighting cocks transported in interstate commerce, a felony, and to providing a pit for cockfighting, a misdemeanor punishable by as much as a year in prison and/or a $100,000 fine.

Gachot and Daugherty await sentencing. Sperling said officers seized several thousand dollars in cash and a collection of cockfighting paraphernalia and confiscated membership cards issued by the facility, the Kiowa Association for the Preservation of Rural and Cultural Lifestyles:eek: , the Oklahoma Game Breeders Association and out-of-state cockfighting pits.

All of the animals were euthanized at the scene after a federal court order.

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sanantoniosooner
1/30/2007, 09:43 AM
I have information that indicates Barbaro was fighting cocks also and was euthanized along with them.

The truth is out there.

Okla-homey
1/30/2007, 10:00 AM
They forgot about that little known codicil in the Faber College constitution that says federal laws have force even in Indian Country. Morons.

KC//CRIMSON
1/30/2007, 10:01 AM
We have cocks fighting on this very board almost every day.

MamaMia
1/30/2007, 10:11 AM
Cockfighting in Oklahoma, and on our Indian Trust land. Well thats embarrassing. :O

C&CDean
1/30/2007, 10:25 AM
Your gonna have to put me down as one of those people who don't have a problem with chickens fighting. We fatten them up with drugs, then butcher them by the millions - and nobody has a problem with that. They're ****ing chickens people.

What I do have a problem with is the goobers that engage in cockfighting. The sport does seem to attract the dregs of society. Plain and simple, it's gambling, and I guess nobody told these tards that there's a ****pot of casinos out there to gamble in. Why does somebody wanna bet $50 that his chicken can whip your chicken when he can go play blackjack and doesn't have to worry about a chicken ****ting all over his truck?

yermom
1/30/2007, 10:49 AM
because he doesn't have to pay a commission on each cockfight :D

C&CDean
1/30/2007, 10:50 AM
Good point....

MamaMia
1/30/2007, 11:00 AM
Dean, cockfighting is barbaric. How do you feel about hunters who shot a quail in covey? Do you really want to sit across the table and break bread with the hillbilly who first said "Hey! I have an idea...what say we strap a few razor blades on Aunt Thelma's cocks, watch 'em fight to the death and then fry 'em up and eat 'em".

BlondeSoonerGirl
1/30/2007, 11:01 AM
Wait for it...wait for it...

Mjcpr
1/30/2007, 11:08 AM
I'd be more worried about the hillbilly wanting to strap razor blades to Uncle Thelma's cocks.

BlondeSoonerGirl
1/30/2007, 11:13 AM
Word.

I'll bet it makes Aunt Jim really uncomfortable.

Boarder
1/30/2007, 11:19 AM
All of the animals were euthanized at the scene after a federal court order.

That statement right there pretty much kills all the "we're doing it for the chickens! They're people, too!" talk.


My feeling is if you want to do it, go ahead. But, it is against the law. Therefore, they shouldn't have been doing it and were appropriately arrested.

yermom
1/30/2007, 11:56 AM
it's not like you can reform fighting cocks...

surely you see the difference in two animals fighting to the death for sport and just being killed for food or being euthanized

how about before we eat cows we slowly kill them for fun first?

C&CDean
1/30/2007, 12:08 PM
it's not like you can reform fighting cocks...

surely you see the difference in two animals fighting to the death for sport and just being killed for food or being euthanized

how about before we eat cows we slowly kill them for fun first?

Let's see. We put two cows in a pen and what are they gonna do? That's right, sniff each other, and if one of them is standing in heat, the other one will mount her like a bull would. It's not in a cow's nature to fight with other cows - unless herd dominance is being established, and even then all they do is bump heads and push each other around.

You put two cocks in a pen, and what are they gonna do? That's right, start ripping the **** out of one another. It's in a ****'s nature to fight with other cocks. If some toothless imbreds wanna bet on it, I just don't have a problem with it. I have no interest in seeing it or being a part of it, but I don't have a bunch of angst over the "sport."

C&CDean
1/30/2007, 12:16 PM
Dean, cockfighting is barbaric. How do you feel about hunters who shot a quail in covey? Do you really want to sit across the table and break bread with the hillbilly who first said "Hey! I have an idea...what say we strap a few razor blades on Aunt Thelma's cocks, watch 'em fight to the death and then fry 'em up and eat 'em".

No mom, all the Ultimate Fighting Championships and boxing matches are barbaric. People copping wood over one person smashing another person in the face with his knee until the guy's face is a bloody pulp is barbaric. Or if a person took a little wire and razor and ripped a chicken slowly to death that'd be barbaric. A couple of chickens fighting is pretty much "meh" to me.

And you probably shouldn't choose quail hunting as an analogy with me. Cause if I'm hungry, and there's a whole covey of quail running in front of me, they're fixin' to die. I don't equate bird hunting with real hunting because birds are soulless little devils who eat my crops and then **** all over everything. The only time I take the bird's side is if a cat is toying/torturing a bird, or if the bird is a raptor (I'm a big fan of hawks and other birds of prey).

Like I said, chickens fighting doesn't bother me. Low IQ people who urge them to fight do.

KC//CRIMSON
1/30/2007, 12:21 PM
Best ****fight I ever seen was with John Ritter in the movie "Skin Deep".:D

JohnnyMack
1/30/2007, 12:35 PM
Dean and 1tc do some cockfighting.

I got nuthin'.

yermom
1/30/2007, 12:49 PM
Let's see. We put two cows in a pen and what are they gonna do? That's right, sniff each other, and if one of them is standing in heat, the other one will mount her like a bull would. It's not in a cow's nature to fight with other cows - unless herd dominance is being established, and even then all they do is bump heads and push each other around.

You put two cocks in a pen, and what are they gonna do? That's right, start ripping the **** out of one another. It's in a ****'s nature to fight with other cocks. If some toothless imbreds wanna bet on it, I just don't have a problem with it. I have no interest in seeing it or being a part of it, but I don't have a bunch of angst over the "sport."

so what about dogs?

C&CDean
1/30/2007, 01:20 PM
so what about dogs?

Distasteful, but those dogs seem to love it. Again, it's in their nature to fight. And again, my problem is with the humans who train/fight animals not with animals fighting/dying.

yermom
1/30/2007, 01:23 PM
well, yeah, that's kinda the issue

i mean if it was just dogs/cocks in the wild fighting or something that would be something else

sanantoniosooner
1/30/2007, 01:23 PM
So the problem isn't the stuff I post, but the people that encourage it?:D

BlondeSoonerGirl
1/30/2007, 01:25 PM
Any of you ever been to a cockfight?

A REAL cockfight?

Besides Dean?

KC//CRIMSON
1/30/2007, 01:36 PM
http://img.timeinc.net/ew/seinfeld/photos/CT90.jpg

yermom
1/30/2007, 01:36 PM
i got attacked by a fighting **** once... and i saw them "practice" once

yermom
1/30/2007, 01:37 PM
http://img.timeinc.net/ew/seinfeld/photos/CT90.jpg

yeah, this thread had me thinking of Little Jerry Seinfeld too :D

Mjcpr
1/30/2007, 01:38 PM
i got attacked by a fighting **** once.

Tequila always makes Doleo want to bow up on you.

JohnnyMack
1/30/2007, 01:41 PM
Tequila always makes Doleo want to bow up on you.

See, if the drive-thru line at Bueno hadn't been so long I coulda had that one!

:mad:

TheUnnamedSooner
1/30/2007, 01:50 PM
am I the only one that thinks it is funny we are talking about cocks and chicks?

olevetonahill
1/30/2007, 01:51 PM
Any of you ever been to a cockfight?

A REAL cockfight?

Besides Dean?
Ive been a few times way back when . I didnt see to much in it for me so I never went back .

TheUnnamedSooner
1/30/2007, 02:07 PM
Ive been a few times way back when . I didnt see to much in it for me so I never went back .


Yeah, I can read between the lines. Let me translate: olevetonhill = avid cockfighting spectator

olevetonahill
1/30/2007, 02:23 PM
Yeah, I can read between the lines. Let me translate: olevetonhill = avid cockfighting spectator
Naw , Im more into the wimmens "Wet T shirt contest " and wimmins Mud rassling
Allthough it was a big deal down here , Prolly still is Just dont see it anymore cause they be hidin and stuff .