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Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 01:48 PM
just tipped.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 01:50 PM
Griffin fouled
misses both
zip-zip
18:52

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 01:52 PM
L2 with a bucket
2-0 OU
17:12

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 01:56 PM
this game is teh succ.
over 4 minutes of game, and more fouls than points.

still 2-0 OU - tech at the line after a TO

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 01:58 PM
at the rate the whistles are blowing, both teams will be in the bonus soon.

2-2
15:30

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 01:59 PM
this thread sucks as much as the game.

4-2 tech after a couple fts

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:00 PM
6-2 tech
14:10

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:01 PM
Neal misses another wide open 3
L2 with his 2nd foul.
6-2 tech

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:03 PM
I picked the wrong week to stop drinking. :eddie:
Griffin misses both ft's again.
7-2 tech
13:00

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:04 PM
I miss the offensive output of the Sampson teams.
9-2 tech
timeout OU
12:14

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:05 PM
GODBOLD FINALLY HITS A 3!
9-5 tech
12:00

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:11 PM
Carter misses another...and another.
11-5 Tech
10:00

Maze takes the ball straight to the hoop, makes a bucket and is fouled.
makes the ft
11-8 Tech
9:30

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:14 PM
both teams are a combined 6-27 from the field.
Tech in the bonus
11-8 Tech
8:11

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:18 PM
Tech 1 of 2 from the line.
12-8 Tech
7:40

Maze with a rebound and a putback.
12-10 Tech
7:00

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:21 PM
after a scoring frenzy by both teams...
16-14 Tech
5:30

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:22 PM
I own this thread - nobody better **** it up.

18-14 Tech
4:50

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:23 PM
20-14 Tech
Timeout OU
3:50

85sooners
1/6/2007, 02:25 PM
:pop:

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:27 PM
I own this thread - nobody better **** it up.



:pop:

:mad:






:D

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:28 PM
Neal can't even make a free throw.

20-14 Tech


Griffin makes a FT :eek:
20-15 Tech
3:11

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:30 PM
and now Carter makes a fg :eek:

but it's 24-17 Tech
2:30

and Carter with another bucket :eek: :eek:
24-19 Tech
2:00

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:32 PM
Neal another 3 missed, but Maze with the follow.
Maze is a really nice player.
26-21 Tech

OU takes the last shot of the half
Carter with a follow of a Griffin miss.
26-23 Tech
HALF

PrideTrombone
1/6/2007, 02:33 PM
26-23, halftime. Wow. I'm amazed we're in it.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:33 PM
Not bad shape at the half considering L2 sat a bunch.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:51 PM
I think we're better with Maze at the point.
AJ is back in after sitting most of the 1st half.

Griffin has missed a bunch of shots, but he's rebounding like a mad-man.
that said, he makes both ft's
28-25 Tech

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:52 PM
Crocker with a strong move to the bucket.

30-27 Tech
18:00

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 02:52 PM
In

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 02:54 PM
We may not shoot well but coach has them playing defense like champs. Now if we can just stop Jarius Jackson.

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 02:55 PM
OMG Longar just took out their seven footer! 3rd personal on him and they get an intentional

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 02:56 PM
You guys look lonely! ;)

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:56 PM
3rd personal on him and they get an intentional

and Knight and the tech fans are still ****ed! WTF?

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 02:57 PM
They make both foul shots and now OU is down by eight AND they have the ball. Missed shot OU goes inside to Nate Carter and he is fouled.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:57 PM
You guys look lonely! ;)

oh no - there goes the neighborhood. ;)

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 02:58 PM
You guys look lonely! ;)

Thanks hun, can ya grab me a beer? ;)

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 02:59 PM
Thanks hun, can ya grab me a beer? ;)

yeah - I'll take one too.

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:00 PM
ROFL the guy Longar elbowed looks like he was run over by a HUGE train!

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:01 PM
Neal with an air-ball. might have been tipped.

35-27 Tech
16:00

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:01 PM
I suppose you guys want Lonestar!

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:02 PM
Damn Neal cannot hit the broad side of a barn right now... airball from 3-point land.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:02 PM
Carter with two.
37-29 Tech
15:10

CtheB
1/6/2007, 03:02 PM
I think we're better with Maze at the point.
AJ is back in after sitting most of the 1st half.

Griffin has missed a bunch of shots, but he's rebounding like a mad-man.
that said, he makes both ft's
28-25 Tech

Agree. Bobby just has the shimmy to open things up.

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:02 PM
I love the way Knight acts like it was immoral!

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:03 PM
I suppose you guys want Lonestar!

Nah if I want cheap *** beer I will stick to something made in WI.
Hell toss me a Lost Lake save the Lonestar for Nick Zepplin! :texan:

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:04 PM
I love the way Knight acts like it a moron!

me too.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:07 PM
We need to get L2 back in the game.
What the hell are we saving him for?

39-29 Tech
13:29

Nevermind.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:08 PM
Crocker with a 3 just in time.
39-32 Tech
12:45

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:10 PM
this game sucks.

41-32 Tech
11:41
Timeout

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:10 PM
Welcome to the Big XII Jeff Caple. Nothing but a foul fest! These refs need to swallow the whistles.

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:16 PM
OU 34
TTU 46

AJ turns it over... again.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:18 PM
this game starting to get out of hand, as our guys look tired.

LittleWingSooner
1/6/2007, 03:18 PM
I'm never gonna rip a Kelvin Sampson offense again because his offenses were better then ours is so far.

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:19 PM
Very ugly now, down 14 and another intentional foul, this time on Maze.

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:21 PM
I don't think I can remember when they actually called intentional fouls.

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:21 PM
I'm never gonna rip a Kelvin Sampson offense again because his offenses were better then ours is so far.

Who? Don't you mean Kalvin Simpson? :rolleyes:

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:21 PM
I'm never gonna rip a Kelvin Sampson offense again because his offenses were better then ours is so far.

although I've tended to take up for Kelvin in the past, Capel doesn't really have much offensive talent on this team.

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:22 PM
I'm never gonna rip a Kelvin Sampson offense again because his offenses were better then ours is so far.

Kelvin never had this weak of a offensive team!

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:24 PM
Kelvin never had this weak of a offensive team!

He left this team that way and made it worse by taking or causing us to lose the good new talent we had coming in. Also our veteran players are not stepping up at all!

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:25 PM
Can't even hit FT's :mad:

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:26 PM
He left this team that way and made it worse by taking or causing us to lose the good new talent we had coming in. Also our veteran players are not stepping up at all!

That's not the same subject. I agree, but we were talking about this team and what Capel was left with.

Ash
1/6/2007, 03:27 PM
The officiating in this game has been..."interesting."

I've never seen a flagrant called on a player clearing out like Longar was doing. I've seen an offensive foul called when the player appears to intentionally try to hit the defender, but I've never seen the flagrant called.

And while it didn't win the game for Tech, it sure helped them extend their lead into what it is now to get the technical shots and the ball back.

Oh well, if we could shoot the ball, we'd probably be in better shape. The team looks like they don't communicate and don't know what do on offense, very frustrating to watch.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:28 PM
I don't blame Kelvin for leaving and taking a better job. If we hadn't had the defections of the incoming recruits, we would have been in much better shape.

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:28 PM
No foul though!

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:30 PM
Yup 2006-2007 OU offensive scoring! :mad:

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:30 PM
I've never seen a flagrant called on a player clearing out like Longar was doing. I've seen an offensive foul called when the player appears to intentionally try to hit the defender, but I've never seen the flagrant called.

And while it didn't win the game for Tech, it sure helped them extend their lead into what it is now to get the technical shots and the ball back.

I was just thinking something similar. If they are going to call that flagrant on L2, they better call it the same way anytime a player tries to clear out with the elbows.

That play turned the whole game around.

LittleWingSooner
1/6/2007, 03:30 PM
Kelvin had worse talent then this and got more out of it.

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:31 PM
OU down 21 with four minutes left

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:31 PM
It's starting to really stink!

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:32 PM
Kelvin had worse talent then this and got more out of it.

again, I liked Kelvin, but I don't remember him having worse offensive talent.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:33 PM
It's starting to really stink!

it has stunk from the get-go. :(

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:34 PM
Kelvin had worse talent then this and got more out of it.

No way! The only year that I would say was close to this talent was his second year. He at least had a "go to guy" that year! there is not even a "go to guy" on this team.

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:35 PM
it has stunk from the get-go. :(

It at least was closer in the first half.

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:37 PM
Maybe Maze will be good.

LittleWingSooner
1/6/2007, 03:38 PM
again, I liked Kelvin, but I don't remember him having worse offensive talent.

2003 was just as bad as this one.

1999 was only better because of Najera.

I also think in his first 2 years he only had Minor and that was it. If we had a scorer then this team would be about like that one.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 03:38 PM
Maybe Maze will be good.

I think there's some potential with Maze and Crocker.

LittleWingSooner
1/6/2007, 03:40 PM
There's a lot of potential with this team.

AJ will be a good 2. Griffin will get better. Longar is a lot better then he has been but still has a ways to go. There just is no leadership. Neal and Carter have been bad this year.

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:41 PM
Yup this sucked!

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:41 PM
Kelvin had worse talent then this and got more out of it.

Don't know if you had noticed this but... Kelvin Sampson is gone. Crying about how he did better is about as useful as wiping first.

Okieflyer
1/6/2007, 03:42 PM
This will be a long year!

Ash
1/6/2007, 03:45 PM
2003 was just as bad as this one.

1999 was only better because of Najera.

I also think in his first 2 years he only had Minor and that was it. If we had a scorer then this team would be about like that one.

2003 team had:
Kevin Bookout
Hollis Price
De'Angelo Alexander
Q. White
J. Brown

Avg. 70 pts and won 27 games.

maybe you were thinking of the '04 team that avg. 60+ pts per game with some of the same players?

SleestakSooner
1/6/2007, 03:46 PM
TTU got some home cooking on this one, OU played REALLY badly but we were on the road and up against a good defensive minded team. I will reserve any "let's run Caple out of town" retoric until he has had at least one full year. If by this time next year OU still struggles like this on offense then and only then will you hear me complain about the NEW coach.

OUstud
1/6/2007, 03:48 PM
No, if we hadn't lost all of those recruits, this year would have been like 03-04. This is just not a good team. The preseason magazines were right.

Ash
1/6/2007, 03:49 PM
TTU got some home cooking on this one, OU played REALLY badly but we were on the road and up against a good defensive minded team. I will reserve any "let's run Caple out of town" until he has had at least one full year. If by this time next year OU still struggles like this on offense then and only then will you hear me complain about the NEW coach.

You also have to give the guy some time to get a recruiting class or two under his belt, see what kind of talent he can bring.

Also, the players haven't exactly performed well. I've seen lots of missed open shots and sloppy execution in the past couple of games.

Ruuuuuufus
1/6/2007, 03:49 PM
Think he meant 2003 team => 2003-2004 school year.

Ash
1/6/2007, 03:50 PM
No, if we hadn't lost all of those recruits, this year would have been like 03-04. This is just not a good team. The preseason magazines were right.

heh, for once.:(

LittleWingSooner
1/6/2007, 04:03 PM
03-04 we had Bookout out for most of the year. We only had 1 scorer on the team that year over 10 points a game and that was our midget point guard.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 04:05 PM
03-04 we had Bookout out for most of the year. We only had 1 scorer on the team that year over 10 points a game and that was our midget point guard.

yeah - that team was limited. If I remember, we had Lavender, McKenzie, Alexander.

LittleWingSooner
1/6/2007, 04:16 PM
Alexander was our center by the end of the year. It's amazing that team won 20 games.

LittleWingSooner
1/6/2007, 04:21 PM
Here's how I see it. If Neal could just somehow be the scorer on this team we would be pretty decent. A big advantage Kelvin had when he got here was that he had Ryan Minor. Minor hit shots when he was flat on the ground. I still believe he could have been an NBA player if he wanted to be. Then after Minor he found scorers like Erdmann and Brewer. I think Neal could be about like Brewer was as a scorer. Brewer was more athletic but they were both 6-2 and had good range. But for whatever reasons this year Neal hasn't come close to hitting anything. Hopefully he can hit his shots and it'll make it so much easier on the rest of the team.

Newbomb Turk
1/6/2007, 04:21 PM
Alexander was our center by the end of the year. It's amazing that team won 20 games.

That was the NIT team that lost to Michigan, right?
Jabari (sp) was kicked off that team, Bookout hurt. Nothing inside.
Johnny Gilbert was still there at the end of the year though.

LittleWingSooner
1/6/2007, 04:23 PM
Gilbert was hurt at some point. I just remember the only guys we had that could play post for us was Foust and Alexander. Then Alexander got hurt against Michigan.

Salt City Sooner
1/6/2007, 10:28 PM
03-04 we had Bookout out for most of the year. We only had 1 scorer on the team that year over 10 points a game and that was our midget point guard.
We had a one-armed Bookout for 13 games before the pain became too much & he shut it down.

OKC-SLC
1/6/2007, 10:31 PM
I have not been home until now, but I got to watch this game. It was the second one I've been able so see from up here in Kansas City.

I really am unimpressed with the execution of what appeared to be scoring possibilities. Our guys were able to create a bit, but they just couldn't finish.

But what really disappointed me was what I thought was a lack of hustle by OU players. Griffin for instance lollygagged a bit too much for my liking.

Bad shooting is going to happen, and in the Big 12 you're going to get a lot of crappy calls for doing nothing wrong. So if you are faced with a talent deficit as we are, you have to control the one thing you can do the most about--and that's hustle.

I see good things in this team, just not enough of them. They'll get better. Capel is all right.

sooner518
1/7/2007, 12:35 AM
we hit like 3 shots outside of 5 feet today. we have decent looks, we just cant get them to fall. Carter played well today but outside of him, and maybe Maze, we looked awful

william_brasky
1/7/2007, 12:50 AM
Longar, Neal, and AJ really stunk it up out there today.

Stunk. It. Up.

birddog
1/7/2007, 01:44 AM
:les: BRING BACK CALVIN!!!:kelvin:

we'll be alright eventually. time to sit back and enjoy watching capel go through growing pains til we get our young talent next year and beyond.

OUSKINS
1/7/2007, 10:32 AM
Well, for the first time this year, I think Capel deserves some criticism. Not a lashing or a bashing, but we all know it's a learning process for him, and I'd say this was his first "failing" grade.

I say that for one reason:

I thought we looked incompetent in the second half.

No doubt the talent isn't there for us to win big this year or pull off major upsets. However, one thing I do NOT like to see is incompetence or lack of composure. I thought the team was just awful in the second half in almost all areas-- and I do think that falls on Capel. No reason we should be competitive for 20 minutes and then absolutely fall to pieces the next 20 minutes.

For the first time this year, I was disappointed in Capel and the team.

I am NOT saying we "should have won" the game. Not by a longshot. Even had we played well in the second half, chances are TT would have pulled away and won. I'm not in dreamland; I understand that even on our best days, this team is probably a borderline NIT squad, but I was still bothered by the way we went down in the second half.

--Maze was excellent. Capel has no choice but to start giving him starter's minutes, even if he doesn't actually put him in the starting line-up. Carter was good yesterday, but I still don't understand why he insists on heaving up 2-3 jumpers a game-- just not his shot.

--The rest of the team = awful. Neal is killing us right now. L2 was terrible. AJ disappeared. Taylor works his tail off and is an excellent rebounder for his size, but the guy can't finish down low right now for some reason. And the free throw shooting was a disgrace.

Bottom line, one thing I do not want to see this year is regression. And I thought we regressed from the Alabama game yesterday.

Looking ahead,

We play three of our next four games at the LNC, and all three of those home games seem winnable right now (Colorado, Nebraska, Baylor). We squeeze in a road trip to UT, which is pretty much an automatic loss next Saturday. If we hold serve at home, we'll be 3-2 in the Big 12, and I think we can feel decent about that-- would put us at 12-6 overall, which would put us on pace for the NIT. The key will be to beat those "middle" teams at home. If we play like we did in the second half yesterday, we won't beat anyone.

lubbocksooner
1/7/2007, 11:06 AM
I think part of out problem is lack of upper classmen leadership. We have 4 seniors and 2 juniors and there really does not seem to be a real tough, hard nosed leader among them. I am not saying this to critize them, there are not that many type on a team at any one time and we just don't have one right now. Also loosing Clark hurts us since he at least was giving someone a breather and producing some points. We are young and inexperienced and they need someone on the floor to settle them down. Let us see how we look these next 4 games and hopefully a leader will start to emerge as the year goes by.

OUSKINS
1/7/2007, 11:30 AM
I agree lubbock. I do think that guys like Sampson, Walker, and Neal are probably good "vocal" upperclassmen "leaders," but you're leaders MUST be guys that produce on the floor. Maze is a real spark, and Crocker is pretty smooth, but as freshmen, it's tough for those guys to be your bread and butter night in and night out. L2 is still a developmental player, being forced into a star's role. The rest of the squad basically consists of role players.

The only real chance we have for a true leader to emerge is if Neal picks it up.....thus far, he's been a weakness.

OUstud
1/7/2007, 11:51 AM
I liked how Knight suggested Longar shouldn't play again after the elbow to the face...from the same guy who chokes and hits his players. Classy.

william_brasky
1/7/2007, 12:02 PM
The elbow to the face wasn't intentional.

LL was backing away from the guy, looking to pass to the wing.

Foreign dude for TT was all up in his grill giving him no space to maneuver.

I was a bit ticked at that call.

Ash
1/7/2007, 02:28 PM
Apparently, Longar has Ninja Elbows of Death.

Personally, I thought the dirty Euro soccer'd up that little incident. I was half expecting the ****ing ref to pull a yellow card.

lubbocksooner
1/7/2007, 03:59 PM
I did not see the elbow but the color guy on the TT radio broadcast was going on and on. It may have been intentional or not, but I bet he will remember it and watch out when we play in Norman.

Ash
1/7/2007, 04:05 PM
I did not see the elbow but the color guy on the TT radio broadcast was going on and on. It may have been intentional or not, but I bet he will remember it and watch out when we play in Norman.

Well, from the angles on TV it looked like any other clear out by any other rebounder that you'll see thousands of times during the basketball season. Yes, part of the "deterrent" for the defender is getting hit in the face with the elbow, and I've seen some guys throw out their elbows in a pretty vicious manner during a clear out.

I've never seen the flagrant called. Offensive foul, yes. Flagrant, no.

Also, Rizvic is 7' 250 lbs. My guess is it would take a little bit of force to drop that guy the way he fell to floor and lied there like he just got shot. Thus, L2 must have NInja Elbows of Death. He should be required to register them as deadly weapons. Or Rizvic went and soccer'd up that game.

lubbocksooner
1/7/2007, 04:24 PM
Well, from the angles on TV it looked like any other clear out by any other rebounder that you'll see thousands of times during the basketball season. Yes, part of the "deterrent" for the defender is getting hit in the face with the elbow, and I've seen some guys throw out their elbows in a pretty vicious manner during a clear out.

I've never seen the flagrant called. Offensive foul, yes. Flagrant, no.

Also, Rizvic is 7' 250 lbs. My guess is it would take a little bit of force to drop that guy the way he fell to floor and lied there like he just got shot. Thus, L2 must have NInja Elbows of Death. He should be required to register them as deadly weapons. Or Rizvic went and soccer'd up that game.

I also was very supprised at the Flagrant call and thought it probably undeserved. Longar is has never been to my knowledge a dirty player. If he has to register his elbows I will send he the information on how to get a concealed carry permit for Texas since he has to come down here a few more times ;-)

WreckemTXTech
1/8/2007, 09:50 AM
Meanwhile, the Red Raiders' 68-54 victory over Oklahoma came with a black eye.

Esmir Rizvic was injured when OU center Longar Longar swung his elbows following an inbounds play and Longar's elbow struck Rizvic in the face.


Jodi Miller / Staff
Texas Tech's Charlie Burgess (42) sets a pick on Oklahoma's Michael Neal to free Tech's Jarrius Jackson (22) on Saturday. Jackson and Burgess will try to lead Tech past K-State today.
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The 7-foot junior center is scheduled to have surgery today.

"That's the worst eye I've ever seen," Tech head coach Bob Knight said on Sunday before the team left for Manhattan. "His playing status for the remainder of the season is certainly in question."

Knight said that Rizvic suffered five fractures around his right eye.

Ash
1/8/2007, 10:12 AM
Meanwhile, the Red Raiders' 68-54 victory over Oklahoma came with a black eye.

Esmir Rizvic was injured when OU center Longar Longar swung his elbows following an inbounds play and Longar's elbow struck Rizvic in the face.


Jodi Miller / Staff
Texas Tech's Charlie Burgess (42) sets a pick on Oklahoma's Michael Neal to free Tech's Jarrius Jackson (22) on Saturday. Jackson and Burgess will try to lead Tech past K-State today.
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The 7-foot junior center is scheduled to have surgery today.

"That's the worst eye I've ever seen," Tech head coach Bob Knight said on Sunday before the team left for Manhattan. "His playing status for the remainder of the season is certainly in question."

Knight said that Rizvic suffered five fractures around his right eye.

Like I said, Ninja Elbows of Death.

He should probably be banned from conference play or maybe forced to wear foam pads on each elbow.

It's also good to know that in addition to being a basketball coach, Knight's also a doctor.

WreckemTXTech
1/8/2007, 10:54 AM
If he's having surgery today, Knight must have gotten the info from the doctor...he didn't make the diagnosis himself.

Ash
1/8/2007, 10:59 AM
If he's having surgery today, Knight must have gotten the info from the doctor...he didn't make the diagnosis himself.

My mistake, I really did think Knight was making the diagnosis himself.

Is your nickname quick draw mcgraw?

Salt City Sooner
1/8/2007, 01:27 PM
Legal action is now being mentioned:


Legal action could follow after Rizvic takes elbow

Texas Tech center Esmir Rizvic will have surgery Monday to repair broken bones in his face, spelling a likely end to his season. The prospect of him playing again for the Red Raiders is uncertain.


There has been talk of legal issues stemming from Longar Longar's elbow connecting to Rizvic's face during Texas Tech's win over Oklahoma on Saturday in Lubbock.



But Oklahoma coach Jeff Capel was quick to point out to ESPN.com on Sunday night that Longar had no malicious intent, nor does he have any history of flagrant fouls and that the school regrets Rizvic's injuries.



Texas Tech associate head coach Pat Knight told ESPN.com from Manhattan, Kan., where the Red Raiders are scheduled to play Kansas State on Monday night, that Rizvic, a 7-foot junior, suffered three broken bones around his eye. The coach said doctors explained to him that Rizvic would need a screw and a plate inserted on the right side of his face.



"He might not play again," Knight said. "We sent the tapes in [to the Big 12] and there are lawyers involved and everything. It was brutal."



Knight said Rizvic was knocked cold but then was able to stand under his own power and leave the court. He said his father, Hall of Fame coach Bob Knight, visited Rizvic in the hospital Sunday and that "his face was swollen and his eye looked swollen shut."



Knight said following Saturday's game, "I'm not sure that [Longar] should be able to play anymore. Swinging your arms like that with elbows out at the height of some kid's head. That's not good."



Capel, who is in his first year as Sooners coach, said Longar's elbow was inadvertent.



Capel said Longar popped out to the corner closest to the bench, caught the ball off an inbounds play and his job was to reverse the ball to the top of the circle. But in getting the ball, Longar swung with one motion and made contact with Rizvic's face.



"It was a hard hit, there's no denying that," Capel said. "I not only saw it, but I heard it. But it wasn't anything like where Longar went out of his way to hit the guy. It was nothing like that. It was an unfortunate incident that happens in the game of basketball."



Capel said he watched the game on tape Sunday and looked specifically at the play and "I don't think it was anything malicious. We're sorry it happened and that he ended up with a serious injury that required surgery … I feel bad for him and wish him a successful recovery."



The 6-11 junior, who is the Sooners' leading scorer at 11.4 points and rebounder at 7.4 boards a game, was cited for an intentional foul.



"He's never done that, and what I know about him as a basketball player and as a young man, any label of him being a dirty player isn't warranted," Capel said.



A call to the Big 12's basketball representative John Underwood wasn't returned Sunday night so there is no way of knowing if the league office plans on any disciplinary action. Oklahoma has no plans to sit Longar for Wednesday's game against Colorado. But Capel will adhere to anything that comes from the league office.



"I'm sure the tape was sent in and they'll review it and we'll listen to any comments the Big 12 office has on this," Capel said. "But there was no malicious intent. It was inadvertent and it was very unfortunate. We feel bad for the kid and hope he's well."



The Red Raiders may look to go smaller without Rizvic, who was a role player for the Red Raiders but did play in all 16 games so far this season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2723925

william_brasky
1/8/2007, 01:32 PM
I generally like Knight, but he's being a big fat bitch on this one.

Ash
1/8/2007, 01:55 PM
Talk of the kid not playing again. However true or exagerrated this might be, I take back what I said about the possible flop.

But I don't think there's anyway it was intentional and the whole thing about legal action is ridiculous. I think Capel's got it right.

Also, Knight's dead wrong or he doesn't know as much about basketball as I'd normally give him credit for, the clearout with the elbows happens all the time in just about every game if not in every game at some point. If watch any NBA, college, high school game, you'll see it done.

william_brasky
1/8/2007, 02:07 PM
Rizvic is just as much to blame as Longar on this deal with how closely he was defending on the perimeter.

OUstud
1/8/2007, 03:46 PM
What Knight doesn't mention is that he probably hit Rizvic during practice just the other day...

SleestakSooner
1/8/2007, 04:10 PM
BK softened Rizvic up Longar just got in the finishing blow.

Too bad for that kid, I saw him just after the incident on the bench and could tell from the "where am I" look on his face that he wasn't faking it.

I will be very suprised if any action is taken by the league.

LittleWingSooner
1/8/2007, 05:58 PM
Longar didn't try and hurt the guy intentionally. What Longar did was wrong but it's something that happens during the course of most games and it's just called an intentional foul and maybe he gets a bloody nose but usually it doesn't hurt a person as bad as it hurt that guy. It was an accident.

Salt City Sooner
1/8/2007, 06:38 PM
"I will be very suprised if any action is taken by the league."
If it gets to Kevin IliveandbreathesoIcantakeanysideofanarguementthats crewsoklahoma Weiberg, I'll be be very surprised if action is NOT taken, especially what with all the recent national Knight slobber-festing going on right now.

Salt City Sooner
1/12/2007, 10:25 AM
This is one time that I wish I'd been wrong:

http://oklahoma.rivals.com/

NormanPride
1/12/2007, 11:12 AM
Biggest pile of horse **** since the Oregon game. I'm incredibly mad, I just don't know how to voice my opinion to those that matter. I already really dislike Joe C, but if he just sits there and takes this, I'll start wondering if he needs to go.

lubbocksooner
1/12/2007, 12:09 PM
So how many games is this suspension supposed to be? I just don't see this kind of action against Longar. I don't think I can EVER remember him getting an intentional foul before, he has no history of anything to warrant a suspension.

OUstud
1/12/2007, 12:11 PM
Great. Just ****ing great. No big man, playing at Texas. We should just withdraw from the conference and be an independent.

GrapevineSooner
1/12/2007, 12:24 PM
Well, I know where the Big 12 offices are here in Dallas. ;)