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Okla-homey
1/5/2007, 07:42 AM
Green cards? We don't need no steenkin' Green Cards!


A U.S. Border Patrol entry Identification Team site was overrun Wednesday night along Arizona's border with Mexico.

According to the Border Patrol, an unknown number of gunmen attacked the site in the state's West Desert Region around 11 p.m. The site is manned by National Guardsmen. Those guardsmen were forced to retreat. advertisement

The Border Patrol will not say whether shots were fired. However, no Guardsmen were injured in the incident.

The Border Patrol says the incident occurred somewhere along the 120 mile section of the border between Nogales and Lukeville. The area is known as a drug corridor. Last year, 124-thousand pounds of illegal drugs were confiscated in this area.

The Border patrol says the attackers quickly retreated back into Mexico.

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/borderstory0104-CR.html

OUHOMER
1/5/2007, 09:31 AM
Maybe we just need to open the border, that way nobody gets hurt. We can welcome them all with open arms. We can let the ones that are here and the ones on their way here become legal. They can all join the welfare systems, and slowly but surely take over the U.S.

We just need to put up big signs WELCOME TO AMERICA.

Spanish will be come the official language. :O

jk the sooner fan
1/5/2007, 09:36 AM
BUILD THAT FENCE!!!!!!!!

Okla-homey
1/5/2007, 09:57 AM
Maybe we just need to open the border, that way nobody gets hurt. We can welcome them all with open arms. We can let the ones that are here and the ones on their way here become legal. They can all join the welfare systems, and slowly but surely take over the U.S.

We just need to put up big signs Bienvenudos Estados Unidos.

Spanish will be come the official language. :O

fixed it

SoonerTerry
1/5/2007, 10:01 AM
WOW, I'm afraid if I was in the guardsmen's boots, I would have spent some of uncle sam's ammo money

jk the sooner fan
1/5/2007, 10:09 AM
i'll bet the ROE for that mission is as thick as war and peace

Petro-Sooner
1/5/2007, 10:57 AM
Build that wall.

Great wall o china style.

85Sooner
1/5/2007, 11:03 AM
BUILD THAT FENCE!!!!!!!!


to heck with that. Start pulling the damn trigger. That will send a message.

I can't believe that our own military is not retreating from our own borders.

I would really feel like sh!t if that was happening on my land if i lived at the border.

This is where I think Bush has screwed up he worst.

Tailwind
1/5/2007, 11:19 AM
ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/5/2007, 07:31 PM
This is why our grandkids will either be working for Omar in Timbuktu or Seig Heiling some one balled nazi whose mantra is 'America for Americans'.Are the one balled nazis the people who are against illegal immigration?

DustySooner
1/5/2007, 07:36 PM
BUILD THAT FENCE!!!!!!!!

You forget..they can swim.

jk the sooner fan
1/5/2007, 08:20 PM
dude, the fence is on the other side of the river

royalfan5
1/5/2007, 08:31 PM
Do we use illegal labor to build the fence to save money? Also who is going to milk our cows then?

OUHOMER
1/5/2007, 08:34 PM
Dude, we can import robots from japan to do that

DustySooner
1/5/2007, 08:35 PM
dude, the fence is on the other side of the river

Gotcha. Hmm..who could we get to build a fence that large? People that could work 12 hours a days in the heat preferably. People that will work a construction type job for low pay. We should get Mexicans to build a fence to keep Mexicans out. That would be the king of irony.

OKC Sooner
1/5/2007, 08:40 PM
Gotcha. Hmm..who could we get to build a fence that large? People that could work 12 hours a days in the heat preferably. People that will work a construction type job for low pay. We should get Mexicans to build a fence to keep Mexicans out. That would be the king of irony.
I'm betting that they would build in tunnels while constructing the fence. :D

soonerboomer93
1/5/2007, 08:50 PM
Dude, we can import robots from japan to do that

and we can get the armed robots from S. Korea to patrol it

DustySooner
1/5/2007, 08:58 PM
and we can get the armed robots from S. Korea to patrol it

I dunno the robots would have to be blue eyed and have blonde hair.

Jerk
1/5/2007, 09:00 PM
ok, do we have to get the militia down there? Maybe they'd shoot back?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/thesplendideye/wtf.jpg

picasso
1/5/2007, 11:55 PM
ok, do we have to get the militia down there? Maybe they'd shoot back?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/thesplendideye/wtf.jpg
it's the saggy tittay gang!!!

OklahomaTuba
1/6/2007, 01:12 AM
The man boobs and smell would be enough to run the invaders away!

Frozen Sooner
1/6/2007, 01:20 AM
Fence schmence. Anyone who thinks a fence is going to stop Mexicans hasn't seen a window-washing or painting crew recently.

Mongo
1/6/2007, 01:25 AM
Why spend a ****load of cash on a wall that can be bypassed. If we are serious, lets put the fear of God in them.

Every 200 yards, place a tower with a CWIS
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o259/hobbs70/ciws-label.jpg

They will search the landscape for any heat signature and turn it into dessert mulch. It would only take one casualty to prove this system prudent.

Okla-homey
1/6/2007, 06:46 AM
I know, I've said this a lot, but a fence without a mixed density anti-personnel minefield extending at least 300 meters on the Mexican side is a waste of time and money.

12
1/6/2007, 06:55 AM
I'm going to do my best to include "one-balled nazi" in a conversation next week.

picasso
1/6/2007, 10:40 AM
I'm going to do my best to include "one-balled nazi" in a conversation next week.
it was Goebbels, not Goebbel.

Harry Beanbag
1/6/2007, 12:00 PM
Here's the latest article on the incident...

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0106border-incident0106USE.html



Guard soldiers back off from armed men out of Mexico


Matthew Benson
The Arizona Republic
Jan. 6, 2007 12:00 AM

A Border Patrol official says National Guard troops acted appropriately this week when they abandoned their post near the border southwest of Tucson as four gunmen approached from Mexico.

It is the nearest that Guard members have come to an armed conflict on the border since spring when President Bush pledged up to 6,000 soldiers to help slow illegal immigration along the nation's 1,950-mile southern border.

No shots were fired in the incident, and no one was injured. Border Patrol spokesman Mario Martinez stressed that "there was no attack." http://www.azcentral.com/imgs/clear.gif

But he added, "It's a serious situation. We're not trying to say it wasn't a serious situation. We've never had an incident where there were gunmen this close to a post."

It also raises questions in the eyes of critics who say the border mission has placed Guard troops in an awkward position. Guardsmen are strictly in a backup role along the border. That means performing administrative functions, building roads and fences, even conducting surveillance in some cases, such as with the team near Tucson.

But they're never to confront or attempt to apprehend border crossers.

"What are we paying our National Guard to do (along the border)? That is the question," said Don Goldwater, who led a failed campaign for governor last year on his promise to crack down on illegal immigration.

"We're putting the National Guard down in harm's way along the border with no intention to allow them to protect themselves."

Goldwater is the nephew of the late Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater, a former presidential candidate.

The armed confrontation took place about 11 p.m. Wednesday near Sasabe about a quarter-mile north of the border. A team of four or five Guard members, armed with M-16s, were watching for border crossers at an observation post when they spotted four men carrying what appeared to be rifles, Martinez said.

As the men came closer, the soldiers left their post and called for the Border Patrol.

"In order to not be detected, they moved to a safer location," Martinez said. "That's exactly what we want them to do.

"They're armed for their protection. Once they are afraid for their lives, they can defend themselves.

"That was not the case."

Border Patrol agents responded within minutes and scoured the area by helicopter and on the ground, but the gunmen could not be located. Their tracks showed that they had arrived near the observation post after crossing into the United States from Mexico.

Armed individuals crossing remote areas of the border typically are smuggling drugs, Martinez said, though it is unknown who the gunmen were in this incident. It's also uncertain whether the men were scouting the observation post, testing National Guard response or merely stumbled upon the soldiers.

Martinez wouldn't say whether troops have since returned to the observation post, but he noted that "we're still monitoring the area; we'll probably be monitoring the area closely for a while."

Gov. Janet Napolitano's staff was briefed about the incident by the Arizona National Guard, but it deferred comment to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. A spokesman from that office did not respond to a phone message left by The Arizona Republic.

Barrett Marson, spokesman for state House Speaker Jim Weiers, said "legislative leaders have not been briefed on the situation but would like some information."

State Sen. Chuck Gray, a Republican and retired Mesa police officer, was surprised that Guard members would run in the face of an armed threat, unless they were seeking protective cover.

"I can tell you, as a police officer of 10 years, there was never a policy to flee," he said. "If they're running for cover, that's different than running away."

Illegal immigration moved to the forefront of American politics in the past few years. Polls consistently have said it is one of the top issues in the minds of Arizonans, and Napolitano and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson declared border emergencies for their respective states in August 2005.

Nearly one year ago to the day, Napolitano used her State of the State address to call for the federal government to pay for the deployment of the National Guard to the border. In the spring, she got her wish with Bush's announcement of Operation Jump Start, a plan to use thousands of Guard members to tighten the border until new Border Patrol agents could be hired and trained.

Roughly 5,700 Guard members are stationed along the border, more than a quarter of whom are in Arizona. It is hoped that they can be pulled back by 2008.

Initial reports indicate the program has reduced illegal crossings. Apprehensions were down 11.4 percent in Arizona from 2005 to 2006, and down 8.5 percent for the four border states

DustySooner
1/6/2007, 08:34 PM
If they stopped getting jobs they'd stop coming... Am I correct?

Frozen Sooner
1/6/2007, 08:36 PM
it was Goebbels, not Goebbel.

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GOBBLES!

afs
1/6/2007, 09:30 PM
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jk the sooner fan
1/6/2007, 09:44 PM
James K. Polk would be so proud...

12
1/6/2007, 09:45 PM
it was Goebbels, not Goebbel.

Easy for YOU to say, you one-balled nazi.

12
1/6/2007, 09:48 PM
If I ever write a bluegrass song, the title will be, "One-Balled Nazi."