AD painting

[bstuff1979]

With no college ball over the past couple of weeks I've gone through some major withdrawl. To deal with this, I took time off from the regular work sched. (painting city scenes, landscapes, and so on) and started work on a portrait of AD. If I've done it correctly, there's a small pic of the painting here. For a better jpg, here's the link: http://homepage.mac.com/wbennettberry/PhotoAlbum4.html . All you need to do from there is click on the thumbnail. It's a huge file, so that's why I didn't just post that one. Any feedback is great, I haven't done a football painting in quite a while and I'm not all that certain of what to expect outside of the gallery. texas sucks

http://homepage.mac.com/wbennettberry/.cv/wbennettberry/Sites/.Pictures/Sixty%20Five%20toss%20power-trap.JPG-thumb_202_269.jpg

[sanantoniosooner]

very nice

Makes me feel like a picnic........All Day.

[OUswagger]

Good job, The selfish side says "sure he stays and plays next year." Really enjoyed watching him in run All over people. Wish the best for him and his family. What field is that any way?

[BoomerSooner247]

wow thats pretty amazing. how long did it take you? 5'x4' is HUGE! good job!

[OK2LA]

Adrian "Burberry" Peterson

[OUHOMER]

very nice

[StoopTroup]

I don't like the plaid...

http://homepage.mac.com/wbennettberry/.cv/wbennettberry/Sites/.Pictures/Red%20Plaid.JPG-thumb_269_202.jpg

[bstuff1979]

I don't like the plaid...

http://homepage.mac.com/wbennettberry/.cv/wbennettberry/Sites/.Pictures/Red%20Plaid.JPG-thumb_269_202.jpg

I would have done the background as it was in the photo, but I kinda like the plaid thing (this is my third "plaid" painting) and I didn't want to just reproduce a photograph (although it is a phenomenal photo. I know the photographer, he's a great guy, and I'd feel bad about it if I didn't do my own thing with the painting). There was some thought to doing a flat green like the green on the cover of the '71 SI w/ OU nu. A plaid with some green or blue in it would have possibly worked a little better, but then you've got some Notre Dame iconography going on. I'm thinking about doing another OU fb painting (the AD swan dive at a&m), I might go damask this time. Sounds odd, but I think it'll work.

[BoomerGirl34]

Very impressive!

[SoonerStud615]

i personally think the plaid looks really cool

[boomrsoonr]

I don't get it. Did you paint the plaid?

That looks like a photoshopped of AD over a plaid background. It certainly is of MUCH better quality than any of the other paintings of people you have.

[sanantoniosooner]

I don't get it. Did you paint the plaid?

That looks like a photoshopped of AD over a plaid background. It certainly is of MUCH better quality than any of the other paintings of people you have.
It's slightly less impressionistic if that's what you mean.

[colleyvillesooner]

It's slightly less impressionistic if that's what you mean.

Is that means being a dick, then yeah, that's what he meant. ;)

[bstuff1979]

I don't get it. Did you paint the plaid?

That looks like a photoshopped of AD over a plaid background. It certainly is of MUCH better quality than any of the other paintings of people you have.

Yeah, painted the plaid and the player. I agree that, in a number of areas, it is better than past pieces. If you want to see a picture of the painting unfinished, just to show that it is a painting and not a photoshop job (though I did make a mockup in photoshop. I do that with most paintings to get a better idea of what I want to do-what works what doesn't), I can do that. The figurative pieces (as opposed to the city-scapes and landscapes) are a recent thing for me, so it's a given that newer pieces should be better than older ones. Someone pointed out that rather than "better quality" it's impressionistic vs. realism/postmodern. I tend to agree with that, as it was only this summer that I decided to make a go at realism to see what happened. Prior to that, the focus was color, composition, and texture. Think of it as Caravaggio (realistic) vs. Van Gogh (big on color and texture, but not exactly realistic).

[sanantoniosooner]

Someone pointed out that rather than "better quality" it's impressionistic vs. realism/postmodern. I tend to agree with that,
that someone is sanantoniosooner

cultured hillbilly.

[bstuff1979]

Sanantonio, you're a rockstar. I aspire to be a cultured hillbilly myself...and here are photos of the process, since there's been some mention of "photoshopping"(like the original post, these jpg's are also on the .mac homepage):

http://homepage.mac.com/wbennettberry/.cv/wbennettberry/Sites/.Pictures/IMG_0573.JPG-thumb_202_269.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/wbennettberry/.cv/wbennettberry/Sites/.Pictures/IMG_0594.JPG-thumb_269_202.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/wbennettberry/.cv/wbennettberry/Sites/.Pictures/IMG_0602.JPG-thumb_269_202.jpg

[Ash]

bstuff,

the drawing is remarkable and the painting exceptional. I'm impressed that the background came last and was still incorporated so well into the painting. (that's opposite of what i learned, but cool)

I have to agree, though, that the plaid distracts from the painting rather than enhances. At least over teh innerweb. It's different in person, I'm sure.

GREAT JORB!!1!

[birddog]

damn, that's cool. the plaid gives it an original touch.

[sanantoniosooner]

The yellow in the plaid is the only part that makes me wince.

The caption should be "I'm a lumberjack, I work ALL DAY"

[bstuff1979]

bstuff,

the drawing is remarkable and the painting exceptional. I'm impressed that the background came last and was still incorporated so well into the painting. (that's opposite of what i learned, but cool)

I have to agree, though, that the plaid distracts from the painting rather than enhances. At least over teh innerweb. It's different in person, I'm sure.

GREAT JORB!!1!

thanks. i agree that on the scale of a computer screen it's a little bit distracting, but it's a little less so in person. the color is extreemely difficult to get right when it goes from the camera to the computer, so there are little things here and there that hurt the inteded effect. the plaid, in person actually pops the figure out in a quasi 3-d effect. the white lines in the plaid are really more of a light vanilla in contrast to the figure being in whites/blue greys/black. the blues in the figure play off of the yellows in the light vanilla. the black bars are a different hue of black (ivory black) than the blacks in the figure (mars black and carbon black) so they do the same to a lesser extent. i'm sure this is all much more information than anyone cares to know, but for me it's just as much fun as going on and on over the whether or not the 3-3-5/30 stack is a gimmick or not(i say it is, if you're that concerned with having some guys in the box and still having some pass coverage, run a nickle and play your safety closer to the line).

[Ash]

By the way, Caravaggio is teh man. Few if any "realist" (really Baroque, but whatever) painters abused the rules as much as he did and yet produced convincing, beautiful work. He was a twisted genius.


Now...back to football...

[Ash]

Actually, one more thought.

If you use oils. Lead white. It would give the uni an incandesence even under low light.

If you have been or get to, see the paintings of Christ in the Uffizi where the painters used lead white for the robes, etc. The effect is surreal.

[bstuff1979]

Actually, one more thought.

If you use oils. Lead white. It would give the uni an incandesence even under low light.

If you have been or get to, see the paintings of Christ in the Uffizi where the painters used lead white for the robes, etc. The effect is surreal.

I use acrylic, but iridescent white sounds like the same stuff. I used it in places on the jersey and pants. It's a better paint to mix with than to use right out of the tube, but for this specific painting it did get some game time. The helmet is heavily metalic/iridescent (sp? too lazy to run to the studio and check the tube for spelling) as well as the first layer of reds in the background. Yes, Caravaggio is the original rock-star and indeed baroque (I was going with the 'keep it simple studip' when calling him a realist in aesthetic). To keep it in line with a football discussion, he would be the Thomas Lott (or maybe the Boz) of the art world. I'm actually going to Spain next week and Italy the following week so I'll try and check it out. It's going to suck since there's little chance of catching the Fiesta Bowl, but I think I'll live.

[Harry Beanbag]

I think it's cool as hell, and I love plaid. I still wear flannel shirts.

[BermudaSooner]

You've got some mad skills. Well done. For your next one, I'd love to see AD running over "green coat at Gucci" for the score.

Central Park off 5th is fantastic.

[Boomer.....]

Great job!

[#1-Erin-Higgins-Fan]

I don't like the plaid...

http://homepage.mac.com/wbennettberry/.cv/wbennettberry/Sites/.Pictures/Red%20Plaid.JPG-thumb_269_202.jpg
I hate it! Not taking anything away from you because this is an AWESOME painting! I really do like it. The plaid just bugs me...

[starrca23]

I like it.

[bstuff1979]

thanks everyone for all the compliments. and (with no sarcasm at all) thanks to those that didn't like the plaid and said so. i've got no problem at all if someone doens't like something, otherwise how would I know unless they said so? so it does help. if I get another OU related piece done before I hit the road next week I'll post it. this time, no plaid. not sure what it will be though, but that plaid takes forever and a day.

[soonerinabilene]

thanks everyone for all the compliments. and (with no sarcasm at all) thanks to those that didn't like the plaid and said so. i've got no problem at all if someone doens't like something, otherwise how would I know unless they said so? so it does help. if I get another OU related piece done before I hit the road next week I'll post it. this time, no plaid. not sure what it will be though, but that plaid takes forever and a day.

i think ENA deserves to be memorialized, if you are looking for suggestions. AWESOME JOB!!!!

[bstuff1979]

i think ENA deserves to be memorialized, if you are looking for suggestions. AWESOME JOB!!!!

good call, really good call. i'm on it and it's soon to be in the research/photoshop stage. i took some video stills from the washington game and took a bunch of photos from my seat at OU tex.

[sanantoniosooner]

BTW.......are you b stuff, or bs tuff?

[bstuff1979]

BTW.......are you b stuff, or bs tuff?

B-Stuff. it's an old college nickname from Ohio.

[sanantoniosooner]

bs tuff wouldn't be so bad either :D

[bstuff1979]

bs tuff wouldn't be so bad either :D

agreed. if i could have had my say in it, i really kinda wanted to be "okie". i was in a fraternity and for a year I was "nebraska" in addition to the regular b-stuff. still not sure if that was just some upperclassman wanting to be an *** or if he was really that drunk that often. his response to me was always, "hell, who can tell the difference. all i remember is that you come from that psycho-football state."

[bstuff1979]

btw, if anyone has any good shots of paul thompson (or any player in general) that they wouldn't mind being apropriated/borrowed to an extent let me know. it would be a huge help and really appreciated

[TMcGee86]

Man, I dig that first photo where AD has no background and it's unfinished.

I want that painting by itself, purposefully left unfinished. It gives it an underlying meaning like God was creating the perfect running back and we took a peek at the goods.

But I think it and all the other paintings are great. Very talented. Thanks for sharing.

[SouthFortySooner]

I'll just say. If it were hangin in the Loovree, I would stand in front of it very staidly for hours. :D

[bstuff1979]

here's the photoshop mock-up/digital sketch of the next painting. we'll see how it goes, hopefully it'll be done within the week.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/wbennettberry/PaulThompsonOU.jpg

[Seamus]

Man, I dig that first photo where AD has no background and it's unfinished.

I want that painting by itself, purposefully left unfinished. It gives it an underlying meaning like God was creating the perfect running back and we took a peek at the goods.

But I think it and all the other paintings are great. Very talented. Thanks for sharing.

I really dug that one too. I think you captured my thoughts on it well.

Don't get me wrong, bstuff -- as a Scot I like the tartan, but the unfinished effect has a real beauty in its simplicity.

Speaking of tartans, here's mine: Stuart of Bute

http://www.scotlandshop.net/images/swatches/s/stuart-bute-200.jpg

[sanantoniosooner]

bstuff-

I was hoping for a paisley

[NormanPride]

Man, this thread made it to three pages and there wasn't a single Spaceballs joke? You guys ARE n00bs.

He's gone to plaid!

[bstuff1979]

bstuff-

I was hoping for a paisley

paisley could work pretty well. i'd think maroon/crimson/purple/navy/white/gold. the damask is something i'm pretty familiar with so it would be realistic to get it done before i head out of town next week. reality has set in though, and my conscious is screaming at me to get a city-scape or two done as those are generally good sellers right before xmas. that and the paul thompson painting should get the attention it deserves rather than a rushed job. i'll do some photoshop work and see how the paisley looks. in the mean time, texas sucks and if anyone owns a sports bar in Luca, Italy let me know. I don't think I could take missing all the bowl games, much less the Fiesta.

[sanantoniosooner]

I was joking, but WHO KNOWS :D

[bstuff1979]

Man, this thread made it to three pages and there wasn't a single Spaceballs joke? You guys ARE n00bs.

He's gone to plaid!

where were you when i was naming this thing?!? "he's gone to plaid!" would have been fan-frickin-tastic. it's already kinda freaked me out that within 24 hours of naming the thing "65 toss power trap" (a nod to KC) Lamar Hunt dies.

[OK2LA]

bstuff -

You have done excellent work, and I appreciate what you're doing. Especially tying in the Sooners in your work! Most Impressive!

Props to you also for putting your balls out there, and letting people stomp on them. No matter what you do, you can't please everyone.

(for those of you that were critical - please don't take this the wrong way - just a statement - just like the ones you offered)

It's classic though - when you do something, put hours of work into something - then someone says: "I love it . . . except for this - could you change this?" "It would look so much better with it this way - instead of THIS."

I laughed & hoped you would react the way that you have.

Very cool stuff - anxious to see the finished product with PT.

I didn't see any pricing on your site - Where do you sell? Do/Will you make prints for those of us unable to afford the originals? (5'x4' is GINORMOUS)

Thanks!

Brad

[bstuff1979]

bstuff -

You have done excellent work, and I appreciate what you're doing. Especially tying in the Sooners in your work! Most Impressive!

Props to you also for putting your balls out there, and letting people stomp on them. No matter what you do, you can't please everyone.

(for those of you that were critical - please don't take this the wrong way - just a statement - just like the ones you offered)

It's classic though - when you do something, put hours of work into something - then someone says: "I love it . . . except for this - could you change this?" "It would look so much better with it this way - instead of THIS."

I laughed & hoped you would react the way that you have.

Very cool stuff - anxious to see the finished product with PT.

I didn't see any pricing on your site - Where do you sell? Do/Will you make prints for those of us unable to afford the originals? (5'x4' is GINORMOUS)

Thanks!

Brad

I show at The Howell Gallery in OKC (about of block north of the 63 & Western intersection, across the street from the Starbucks in the Nichols Hills Plaza). The gallery's website has all the info on pricing, size, and that sort of thing ( http://www.howellgallery.com ). I tend to stay out of that as much as I can, it's more than a little ackward trying to decide how much your work is worth. I've given some thought to doing prints, and the gallery owners know the Boren's, so that should help out in getting through the red tape of licensing fees and related stuff. If it works out with the prints, I'll let everyone know. I've always been a little iffy on prints, but if this goes through I'll try and set it up where a reasonable % of profits go to something like a scholarship fund for the OU art dept or graduate college. I know I would have loved a scholarship while I was at OU, and I had the grades for it, but there just wasn't enough funding from what I understand. Thanks again for the compliments

[OK2LA]

http://www.howellgallery.com/index2.html

Uh- yeah - I'll need to see the pricing on the prints. . . :D (poor white trash - :O )

[Desert Sapper]

I think all of your work is excellent. I'm not fluent in art language, and I'm certainly uncultured when compared to some on this board, but I feel that your use of patterned backgrounds with your pieces is absolutely breathtaking. 'Lexington Avenue', 'Blue Houndstooth' and 'Woman with Gold Floral' are stunning.

The AD painting is great, and 'he's gone plaid' would have been a fitting and brilliant title. I like the dialogue about the unfinished painting, as well. I think that would make an excellent piece by itself. The ENA piece is going to be wonderful when you complete it.

I would love to be able to afford some of this stuff. Maybe if prints become available, some of us 'have nots' can 'have'.

I'm sure you don't need anybody pumping sunshine up your butt. I'm sure you get that enough, but I really like your work.

[Fraggle145]

Dude I think it is cool... plaid isnt my thing, but it is definitely high quality cool lookin stuff. I think the Paisely could actually be really cool. Anyway just my two cents...

I want Sue is Hammered that is just awesome.

[Harry Beanbag]

I think you should start painting Longhorn players with some of these backgrounds...


http://www.robertkaufman.com/assets/fabric/medium/AJP-5054-5.jpg

http://www.freespiritfabric.com/fabric-collections/fruit-stand/swatches/A/large/D560-030.jpg

http://i18.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/a9/aa/03_1.JPG

http://auctionboutique.com/usersdirs/11169/dsc06904.jpg

http://www.dipaula.com/images/products/cucumbers.jpg

[Fraggle145]

I think you should start painting Longhorn players with some of these backgrounds...

http://www.dipaula.com/images/products/cucumbers.jpg

This one... with Stunned Mack... :eek:

http://home.houston.rr.com/jrsquared/Mack1.jpg

[Czar Soonerov]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7599/howzitcucumbersqy5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Czar Soonerov]

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/5070/mccucumberft1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Harry Beanbag]

Here are a few source pics for the cucumber background...


http://www.dallasnews.com/img/photo/01-05/rosebowl1.jpg

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper410/stills/ttx6dg8c.jpg

http://images.sportsline.com/images/football/college/bowls/rose045.jpg

http://graphics10.nytimes.com/images/2006/01/06/sports/06young.184.jpg

http://www.publiustx.net/media/1/mackandvince.jpg

[bstuff1979]

I've actually given thought to doing that pic of vince down on his knees with his head in his hands. Just for fun, but haven't had the time. That triathalon/swimmer guy with the cucumbers is the best thing I've seen all day long.

[sanantoniosooner]

That triathalon/swimmer guy with the cucumbers is the best thing I've seen all day long.
That's our very own Howzit.

And don't waste your time if there isn't a monkey in the picture.

[picasso]

bstuff -

You have done excellent work, and I appreciate what you're doing. Especially tying in the Sooners in your work! Most Impressive!

Props to you also for putting your balls out there, and letting people stomp on them. No matter what you do, you can't please everyone.

(for those of you that were critical - please don't take this the wrong way - just a statement - just like the ones you offered)

It's classic though - when you do something, put hours of work into something - then someone says: "I love it . . . except for this - could you change this?" "It would look so much better with it this way - instead of THIS."

I laughed & hoped you would react the way that you have.

Very cool stuff - anxious to see the finished product with PT.

I didn't see any pricing on your site - Where do you sell? Do/Will you make prints for those of us unable to afford the originals? (5'x4' is GINORMOUS)

Thanks!

Brad

well said man. that's part of the ride. you put it out there and wait for the response. The reaction is never always good but most of the time it is and is always good for the creative spark.

I always laugh when I'm asked to explian my work. it's usually all told in the piece.

[OK2LA]

well said man. that's part of the ride. you put it out there and wait for the response. The reaction is never always good but most of the time it is and is always good for the creative spark.

I always laugh when I'm asked to explian my work. it's usually all told in the piece.

Is this the real picasso?!?!

[picasso]

Is this the real picasso?!?!
heh, no that guy did work harder than me though.

[OK2LA]

heh, no that guy did work harder than me though.

Damn! I was gonna axe you for your autograph

[bstuff1979]

well said man. that's part of the ride. you put it out there and wait for the response. The reaction is never always good but most of the time it is and is always good for the creative spark.

I always laugh when I'm asked to explian my work. it's usually all told in the piece.

that's exactly right. i actually enjoy criticism (just as long as its sincere and not just some guy saying it sucks because he's had a bad day), it helps as much if not more than the compliments. if you accept the good and have no problem with it then you've got to take the bad as well. i can also agree with the part about explaining work. there's no real big meaning behind most of my things, what you see is what you get. if there's some meaning to it, it'll be evident enough on the canvas. if someone were to ask me why plaid as opposed to this or that, i have no clue what i'd say other than that's just what i went with. man, i'm itchin' to do that pt painting now. i may have to play hooky and put this city-scape to the side later on.

[OK2LA]

If you "just don't have anything to do" - maybe do a "Heisman Series". That would be killer to have B.V., B.S., S.O., & J.W. (4 different perspectives) Maybe - consider changing your focus to - All OU-All the Time? Mabybe not the best move business wise, but I'm sure you'd get some takers otherwise . . . I'd throw a couple of bucks in the kitty . . . :D

[Doged]

Good stuff! Love the AD piece and the concept on the PT one both. "Gerhard & Betsy" I like a lot, too.

Sorry, I don't know enough about art to offer any criticism beyond, "Hey, I like that!". :)

Oh, I've also learned enough not to tell anyone how much I paid for one. People invariably shake their head and frown at me, but hey, I like 'em and I don't buy them to sell anyway.

[Jason White's Third Knee]

F those critics.



You are the man.



Period.

[Jason White's Third Knee]

tman, i'm itchin' to do that pt painting now. i may have to play hooky and put this city-scape to the side later on.


Dude! Do a giant PT on with a cityscape as the background. That would be flat out wicked.

I'm gonna try and whip that up.

[Jason White's Third Knee]

http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/5575/adpainting1iz3.jpg.http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/4669/adpainting2eh6.jpg

[101sooner]

Great job by all.

[Czar Soonerov]

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1979/mjadinthecityig7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

My son's idea for the TD signal...

[bstuff1979]

Since I've already got it done (the finished figure w/ a green screen in order to see what i wanted with the background), here's a finished AD w/ green screen. Also, someone had mentioned that the right foot looks off. It absolutely does, but there is a reason it comes off this way. In fact, two reasons. One is that the foot, and lower leg, being in the shadows creates a silluote. This hides that the shoe is turned at an angle where, if in the light, you'd see the cleats. That angle, in a silluote, makes the foot look much larger than it really is/widens it. The second thing is that it overlaps the black-green(looking like jet black in the jpg) in the plaid. That gives you the impression that the heel is a good deal larger too. So, rather than continuing the ramble on proportions...here's the green screened ad as well as my own farking of my own painting over another of my paintings. Tripple surreal, eat it Dali.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/wbennettberry/adpaintinggreenscreen.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/wbennettberry/sueshammeredwad.jpg

[SoonerStud615]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7218/adflyinggk4.png
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3913/adflying2ok1.png
my 2 mockups

[OK2LA]

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3913/adflying2ok1.png

That looks like NYC . . .

Wicked shot - If he had stayed healthy - would've been much more fitting . . .

Start spreadin' the news . . .

"Taking N.Y. by Storm!"

[OK2LA]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7218/adflyinggk4.png


"Heaven Help Us"

[Fraggle145]

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1979/mjadinthecityig7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

My son's idea for the TD signal...

sweet...

[Fraggle145]

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/wbennettberry/sueshammeredwad.jpg

Thats a Hell of a Stiff-Arm! Sue got pwned on the way to the endzone.

[SoonerStud615]

OK2LA, you caught both of my meanings behind my mock ups.
the first is obvioulsy, AD belongs in NYC recieveing the heisman.
and secondly, you were close, but, it was more like AD is a god.

[OK2LA]

. . . you were close, but, it was more like AD is a god.

Amen Brother Ben.

[spatton713]

You should do one of Malcolm Kelly goin up and grabbin a pass over some defenders or somethin that makes him look like a giant lol ...only cuz thats how he plays. that would be awesome.....

[spatton713]

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/spatton713/ad.jpg