Dear Texas, You Blew It [Archive] - SoonerFans.com Message Boards

Octavian

12/7/2006, 04:34 PM

Dear Texas,

At the beginning of this decade, you were projected to be the dominant program in the BigXII.

But for years, you endured the annual asswhippings in Dallas. Shut-outs, shoot-outs, blowouts...you lost every way imaginable.

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5976/6ny3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It seemed as if Stoops so thoroughly pwned the rivalry that Mack's tenure could be cut short. You grew tired of playing in San Diego while watching OU win conference titles and play for BCS trophies and national championships.

Then suddenly, you caught a break. Vince matured and convinced the staff he needed more control. VY became the unquestioned leader of your program.

OU lost an amazing group of seniors and you finally reversed the RRS trend. Vince even brought home a national championship for the first time in generations.

After a series a bad breaks for OU and another win Dallas, it seemed you'd finally shaken off the "soft" label. It seemed you'd win back-to-back conference crowns and finally start being the consistent, dominant program in the Big XII that you were projected to be.

Two embarrassing losses, another Big XII trophy in the Switzer Center, and an invitation to the Alamo Bowl later....and you're back.

You had a chance to prove your '05 campaign was more than just Vince...a chance to separate yourself from OU's recent dominance...a chance to reclaim this decade.

But you left the door open and OU kicked it down.

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9598/champs06re2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Instead of closing the deal, you’re back to being soft…and you’re relegated to watching your nemesis in another BCS bowl while you’re again forced to think of what might have been.

You blew it.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8876/mack1xm9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Welcome back.

Sincerely,

The Sooner Nation

The_Red_Patriot

12/7/2006, 04:38 PM

http://tvland.classictvhits.com/WelcomeBackKotter/Pics/WBK01.JPG

OSUAggie

12/7/2006, 04:39 PM

So... you got beat handily by a "soft" Texas team?

flopshotjoe99

12/7/2006, 04:40 PM

nice:cool:

Blues1

12/7/2006, 04:41 PM

Lets not totally Kick texas while they are Down --- We still have the next 5 years to kick them a little bit every year.... :D

Boomer Mooner

12/7/2006, 04:51 PM

So... you got beat handily by a "soft" Texas team?

Yeah, we have even lost a game or two to your gimp tards. Difference is we don't lay down and cry about it, cause we are CHAMPIONS. It's not for everyone and you guys are probably a lot better off settling for whatever.

Laughed my *** off on your "Why do you hate OU" thread when some typical cowpie said he hated us cause we expect to win every game!

Octavian

12/7/2006, 04:52 PM

So... you got beat handily by a "soft" Texas team?

I recognize it's been a long time since Bob Fenimore and it can be a little confusing, but what we did was called winning the conference championship.

DustySooner

12/7/2006, 04:54 PM

Was that an "Ew Diss"?

OSUAggie

12/7/2006, 04:59 PM

I recognize it's been a long time since Bob Fenimore and it can be a little confusing, but what we did was called winning the conference championship.

Try Terry Miller.

Bourbon St Sooner

12/7/2006, 05:05 PM

It's amazing how few horns we've seen around here lately. In fact, it's been almost horn-free this week. Last October they crawled out of the woodwork and for a time there seemed to be few threads without some horn chiming in.

proudsoonergal

12/7/2006, 05:05 PM

"Beat handily" = UT 38, OSU 10 (and it wasn't even that close, I watched the game)

Beaten, but not "handily" = UT 28, OU 10 (OU turnovers = UT points)

OSUAggie

12/7/2006, 05:10 PM

"Beat handily" = UT 38, OSU 10 (and it wasn't even that close, I watched the game)

Beaten, but not "handily" = UT 28, OU 10 (OU turnovers = UT points)

Yeah... the difference is: I'm not calling Texas soft. And turnovers, last I checked, were part of the game...

Plus it was 36-10 @ Austin compared to 28-10 @ Dallas.... 8 point difference and neutral vs. road... Not saying OSU was "as close" to beating Texas as OU, but it's not like it was that much different in the end...

soonerloyal

12/7/2006, 05:11 PM

Actually, I like it when both teams are strong, ranked well and the tension & expectations are high on both sides of the Red River.

But frankly, I don't spend much time thinking about 'horns. It's they who are obsessed with us all the time. Ah, well. It's a burden we were born to carry well, this Sooner Greatness. *sighing indulgently*

StoopTroup

12/7/2006, 05:15 PM

Remember...

If Boone had gotten the EZ completed before the game in stoolwater this year...they would have won. :rolleyes:

My Sister called today and she got her Independence Bowl Tickets today.

$35.00 each. :D

My Brothers and maybe me....are headed to Glendale...

We'll miss her at New Years. :D

I love you Sis! No really I do....

:pop:

Rhino

12/7/2006, 05:17 PM

Try Terry Miller. Helllllllooooo thirty years ago, Mr. One-and-Only Oklahoma A&M Big Eight Champeenship...er, co-champeenship.

I remember watching that team when I was -3.

I_SMELL_FEAR

12/7/2006, 05:18 PM

Soonerloyal - There are about 10,000 OU fans that constantly throw the upside down horns that would disagree with you...in fact I saw a truck load of them driving by the Husker fans doing it last weekend....I shoulda threw my beer at them.

proudsoonergal

12/7/2006, 05:18 PM

Yeah... the difference is: I'm not calling Texas soft. And turnovers, last I checked, were part of the game.

Yup. Turnovers part of the game.

If you re-read the post, he wasn't saying Texas was soft at the time it beat OU....he's saying it went back to being soft after the OU game, i.e. it choked in the last two games and lost its nice 2 game lead in the South race. Texas was definitely soft in the aggy game (I didn't watch all of the KSU game, so I can't speak to that game).

Octavian

12/7/2006, 05:21 PM

I'm not calling Texas soft.

Not sure why you're concerned with this topic so much but...

Behind a vaunted, veteran OL and a highly touted RB corps, they only had 4 games in which they rushed for over 200 yards (and not exactly against world-beaters either).

-North Texas
-Rice
-Iowa St.
-Texas Tech

In spite of their finesse play, all they had to do was win one of their last two games and couldn't.

That's being mentally and physically soft.

#1-Erin-Higgins-Fan

12/7/2006, 05:21 PM

GR8 POST!

The Maestro

12/7/2006, 05:25 PM

That is SO funny! An OSU fan is talking 30 year old conference tie smack!

It's rasslin' season. Shouldn't you be spraying Campho Phenique on some spastic dudes cauliflower ears?

Dio

12/7/2006, 05:25 PM

Simmah down, ag- this ain't a rasslin' thread.

PDXsooner

12/7/2006, 05:41 PM

yeah, when we talk wrasslin' and golf, we'll summon an opinion from the aggies.

how about the fact that mack brown has one conference title in nine years at texas? stoops has four conference crowns in eight years. stoops is going to his fifth BCS game and mack has been to two.

The Maestro

12/7/2006, 05:45 PM

They are also experts in helping sheep over fences.

XingTheRubicon

12/7/2006, 05:59 PM

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/4280/ncfgbrown412mq1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

XingTheRubicon

12/7/2006, 06:01 PM

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/1876/burketo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

XingTheRubicon

12/7/2006, 06:02 PM

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/5967/skyka2.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/8105/2pow08nhf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/1228/cry20babynl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9214/0309pi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4746/258928245045de9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2092/nelson185ll5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

SleestakSooner

12/7/2006, 06:23 PM

Would ya'll quit quoting Aggie posts? I have them on ignore so I won't be baned again for my comments when I am forced to neg them!

IWBMAKTX :O

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!

12/7/2006, 06:32 PM

Hilarious thread, esp. the aggy chiming in about OU losing to whorns. Where are the aggy lovers among us, chiming in with their $.02?

soonerboy_odanorth

12/7/2006, 06:38 PM

"You had me at [Blew]"...

Beano's Fourth Chin

12/7/2006, 06:40 PM

Why did we kick down the open door again? That's just plain rude.

soonerloyal

12/7/2006, 07:27 PM

I understand, Smell Fear, I know a bunch of 'em too. But I'll tell you what I taught my boys: If you have to talk constantly about being better, chances are, you're just wishing you were. Good breeding just is, it isn't something you can grab by flapping your gums about having it. Our occasional references to "whorns" or "Texass" is so unlike yapping incessantly about "dirt burglars" "BlowU" "Trailer U" "Faggys" "WE are THE university" "F OU" "F Stoops" "Terra Kleptics" "Aggylike" ad nauseum.

I have no problem giving credit where is has been earned. Let Texas be...Texas. We'll be Oklahoma. Texas was awesome. Last year. They were pretty good this year. We won the Big 12. Again. Next year, we'll start the race again. Our seasons are not defined by a win over UT or OSU. I don't think the others can say that and be honest. The simple fact that OU football outshines Texas football over decades and seven NCs is quite acceptable in my book.

The Ensuing Kickoff

12/7/2006, 08:09 PM

Terry Miller.

Sh!t, that's like OU bragging about Ahmed Kabba.

The Ensuing Kickoff

12/7/2006, 08:09 PM

Terry Miller.

Sh!t, that's like OU bragging about Ahmed Kabba.

The Ensuing Kickoff

12/7/2006, 08:10 PM

Call me the Little Caesar of Soonerfans.

shavedmarmoset

12/7/2006, 08:15 PM

AzianSooner

12/7/2006, 08:27 PM

Sir Octavian,

I love you.

StoopTroup

12/7/2006, 08:59 PM

Check out question 11 of this ESPN Poll....:D

ESPN Poll (http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2373&action=1&question17682=72589&question17683=72591&question17684=72593&question17685=72624&question17686=72598&question17687=72602&question17688=72604&question17689=72605&question17690=72608&question17691=72611&question17692=72618)

Indy Sooner

12/7/2006, 09:01 PM

Try Terry Miller.

How would you know? You've not seen OK A&M share (let alone win) a conference championship in your lifetime.

Gandalf_The_Grey

12/7/2006, 09:22 PM

Okie St Pwns us guys!!! 5 out of the Last 13!!!!!!

devOUt

12/7/2006, 10:55 PM

The Terry Miller/aggie victory occurred my Sr. year at OU. That was a tough year for the Sooners. Our defensive backfield had lost 3 of its 4 starters to injuries before the aggie game. We lost Sidney Brown, Jerry Anderson, and Scott Hill. Brown and Anderson were lost for the season and Hill came back later that year.The odds were stacked against us. In true OU fashion we pulled it together and ended up winning a share of the conference title and finishing 5th in the final AP poll. Ahead of Aggies, Buffaloes, longhorns and everyone else we played. It kind of reminds me of this year.

The Ensuing Kickoff

12/7/2006, 11:17 PM

Great history lesson, devOUt!

BIG_IKE

12/7/2006, 11:26 PM

AzianSooner

12/7/2006, 11:37 PM

This is funny and all...but seriously...how can we talk trash when the bulk of our team next year will be people who have NEVER beat the "soft" Texas Longwhorns??

**** happens.....I still dont think they will be a walk in the park next year.

No it is not. But I always believe that sooners are capable to kick the crap out of longwhorns next year.

Texas Golfer

12/7/2006, 11:51 PM

Terry Miller!?!

Wow! That's a blast from the past. Terry Miller was awesome! I remember watching him play. Very much in the Barry Sanders' mold.

But I've slept since he last touched a football. Could you compare OSU to OU football with something more recent?

Nah, I didn't think so.

DenverSooner751

12/8/2006, 01:41 AM

Yeah... the difference is: I'm not calling Texas soft. And turnovers, last I checked, were part of the game...

Plus it was 36-10 @ Austin compared to 28-10 @ Dallas.... 8 point difference and neutral vs. road... Not saying OSU was "as close" to beating Texas as OU, but it's not like it was that much different in the end...

Well well well. Chalk up another Moral victory for Gundy and his cronies. That makes him what....7-0 in that department? Oh wait, that's right. You guys use the "Bama method. Gundy if 224809-0 in the moral wins department.

I guess if Boone's check must have bounced or something, and that is why the turf was in bad shape. Had it been in better shape you guys would have won not only the national championship but also the Universe Championship.

Get real Aggie fan.

Oh, and you don't have to remind us the TO' s are part of the game. Last I checked your Heisman trophy winner(s) (can't remember how many they had this year) fumbled the ball into the end zone and we recovered it. What did you guys lose by again...was it 6? Oh yeah, that's right.

mikeb

12/8/2006, 03:45 AM

osu

SUCKS

Luthor

12/8/2006, 09:02 AM

sooner n houston

12/8/2006, 09:17 AM

next year you guys are poised for greatness.

As always!!! :D

n8v_ndn

12/8/2006, 09:18 AM

We'll see. I'm curious to see if Stoops can pull yet another juco QB miracle out of his...visor, come Sept. What with 1 juco candidate and 1 pastey faced freshman on the roster for QB next year you guys are poised for greatness.

Considering Paul Thompson's performance this year and Josh Huepel as QB coach, I think we're going to be alright.

Meanwhile, all Davis and Brown have to do is find that "Colt Vibe" and you'll be rolling once again.

Blues1

12/8/2006, 09:21 AM

The bottomline is, I don't think Oklahoma can win the Big 12 South, the Big 12 Championship, or go to a BCS game this year, because of the QB position."
-Mark May, 9/2/06

"With Paul Thompson at QB, Oklahoma will not win the Big 12."
-Lee Corso 9/2/06

Those two statements Should be Posts all on their own...... :)

sooneriniowa

12/8/2006, 09:32 AM

I had to borrow that quote Blues...makes a perfect sig....Thanks

OUmillenium

12/8/2006, 09:37 AM

Yup. Turnovers part of the game.

If you re-read the post, he wasn't saying Texas was soft at the time it beat OU....he's saying it went back to being soft after the OU game, i.e. it choked in the last two games and lost its nice 2 game lead in the South race. Texas was definitely soft in the aggy game (I didn't watch all of the KSU game, so I can't speak to that game).

Hey, nobody here is accusing an Aggie of being able to read properly1:)

TexasLidig8r

12/8/2006, 10:15 AM

Definite congratulations should go to Oklahoma this year for overcoming obstacles and adversity and by improving its play every week after the Texas game. Stoops did a very good job, perhaps, his best ever, in molding this team into a winner.

Gracious in victory and magnanimous in defeat seems to be a bit lacking from the initial post in this thread... especially with the results of the last two RRS being what they were.

Nonetheless, represent the Big XII well in the Fiesta Bowl.

Ash

12/8/2006, 10:38 AM

Octavian

12/8/2006, 10:41 AM

We'll see. I'm curious to see if Stoops can pull yet another juco QB miracle out of his...visor, come Sept. What with 1 juco candidate and 1 pastey faced freshman on the roster for QB next year you guys are poised for greatness.

Definite congratulations should go to Oklahoma this year for overcoming obstacles and adversity and by improving its play every week after the Texas game. Stoops did a very good job, perhaps, his best ever, in molding this team into a winner.

Gracious in victory and magnanimous in defeat seems to be a bit lacking from the initial post in this thread... especially with the results of the last two RRS being what they were.

Nonetheless, represent the Big XII well in the Fiesta Bowl.

finally :rolleyes:

WTH took you guys so long? :D

That salt in the wound, horn-nip of a post wasn't composed to hear about the last glorious Pokie co-championship of Jerry Ford's swan song year.

As far as not being gracious...in the last year and a half, it seemed all our mojo had gone South....and our fanbase and staff heard about it (at great length) from all corners.

In what's been a virtual 2-man race in a 12-man field for some time, this Big XII title was enormous for our program....and it's the first time in a little while we've been able to stick it back to everyone.

If the roles were reversed, we'd expect the same.

So, suck it...and stuff.

;)

yur-out

12/8/2006, 10:43 AM

We'll see. I'm curious to see if Stoops can pull yet another juco QB miracle out of his...visor, come Sept. What with 1 juco candidate and 1 pastey faced freshman on the roster for QB next year you guys are poised for greatness.
The question one has to ask themselves is how much of a factor the O-line has to play in how good or bad a qb is.
Was Colt really good this year or did he just have a heck of a line in front of him to protect him? A line that gave him time to go through progressions and open up the running game to take even more pressure off of the passing game.
Was Paul that much better this year than last year or did he have a better line in front than last year when he was running for his life (along with another unnamed qb:rolleyes: )?
You see if you buy into the O-line making a qb look good or not, the question you whorn fans have to wonder is, can Colt perform without that all-star front line protecting him (I'll be surprised if three of those guys aren't playing on Sunday next year). OU on the other hand will be able to give OUr new qb the seasoned line that Colt enjoyed this year.
So yes, I agree with you, we are poised for greatness.

OSUAggie

12/8/2006, 10:46 AM

That salt in the wound, horn-nip of a post wasn't composed to hear about the last glorious Pokie co-championship of Jerry Ford's swan song year.

You're the one that brought it up, so I guess you blame yourself?... I was just saying that calling Texas soft after they beat you by a few scores is a bit ridiculous.

Octavian

12/8/2006, 11:03 AM

You're the one that brought it up, so I guess you blame yourself?

I brought it up? I had no attention of discussing anything remotely pertaining to OSU.

I mentioned Fenimore as a dig because I thought that was your last outright conference title.

Ya know...cause Miller Time was was 30 years ago...which was the first in over another 30 years (since Fenimore).

I was just saying that calling Texas soft after they beat you by a few scores is a bit ridiculous.

Again...2 chances to advance, 2 losses. One at home...against a rival.

8 games with less than 200 yards rushing behind an all-world OL and a stable of good backs.

But let it be written and shouted from rooftops...Oklahoma State doesn't approve of OU calling out Texas.

Herr Scholz

12/8/2006, 11:09 AM

Sooners deserve to talk all the smack they want. No question [/Stoops] You guys won the title and are going BCS and our team blew it. Period.

Next year will be another story. ;)

OSUAggie

12/8/2006, 11:18 AM

I brought it up? I had no attention of discussing anything remotely pertaining to OSU.

I mentioned Fenimore as a dig because I thought that was your last outright conference title.

Huh? Intention, maybe? K, so we agree that you brought it up.

Bringing up Miller was just a little quality control...

Octavian

12/8/2006, 11:22 AM

damn...yes...intention.

My coffee's almost ready :D

Bringing up Miller was just a little quality control...

priceless.

Desert Sapper

12/8/2006, 11:25 AM

Next year will be another story. ;)

I agree. Next year we'll win RRS, too. :D

MamaMia

12/8/2006, 11:30 AM

I'm certainly not about to toot the 'horn' for Texas, (no pun intended) but after TGOWWDNS and then losing to them this last season, I really don't believe we have enough scoreboard to be saying a whole lot to them just yet.

That being said; I did get a chuckle out of the fact that we leap frogged them on our way to Kansas, for yet another conference championship game and win. Yeah for us! :D

BOOMER SOONER!

Luthor

12/8/2006, 12:29 PM

The question one has to ask themselves is how much of a factor the O-line has to play in how good or bad a qb is.
Was Colt really good this year or did he just have a heck of a line in front of him to protect him? A line that gave him time to go through progressions and open up the running game to take even more pressure off of the passing game.
Was Paul that much better this year than last year or did he have a better line in front than last year when he was running for his life (along with another unnamed qb:rolleyes: )?
You see if you buy into the O-line making a qb look good or not, the question you whorn fans have to wonder is, can Colt perform without that all-star front line protecting him (I'll be surprised if three of those guys aren't playing on Sunday next year). OU on the other hand will be able to give OUr new qb the seasoned line that Colt enjoyed this year.
So yes, I agree with you, we are poised for greatness.

I would have agreed with your assessment and have done so in past. That is, up until the A&M game when our OL apparently took a powder and couldn't block me. I'm still dumb founded by that and it wasn't entirely due to the presense of all those AAs on the aggy DL.

Desert Sapper

12/8/2006, 01:07 PM

Texas Golfer

12/8/2006, 01:12 PM

Luthor

12/8/2006, 01:18 PM

This was just payback for the very same scenario in 2001. We beat you in RRS, lost two games we shouldn't have (to include one to our lesser in-state aggie team), and propelled the whorns to the Big XII CCG. The difference is, when we got the opportunity this year, we won a championship. Chew on that, whorns.Hook em

I don't have a problem with owning up to my team's failures. I can do it and not even have to blame the refs. You should try it sometimes.

Desert Sapper

12/8/2006, 01:33 PM

I don't have a problem with owning up to my team's failures. I can do it and not even have to blame the refs. You should try it sometimes.

The refs blew the call(s) at Oregon in unprecedented fashion (for a crew with access to replay). That has been hashed and rehashed by more people than I can count (most of them non-Sooner fans). Even your puke orange delusional self has to admit that.

I can fully admit (as I did immediately following the game) that my team blew the game. Couldn't stop the last two TD drives, and couldn't capitalize on great field position to make an easy FG with (arguably) the best kicker in the NCAA.

I can also fully admit that Paul Thompson made some huge mistakes in the RRS that cost us (to go along with superhuman efforts from Aaron Ross and Colt McCoy). I can admit that AD made some huge mistakes that resulted in a costly turnover and a whorn TD.

Don't get all huffy with me, Luthor. I'm not the one that blew a missed opportunity for a Big XII championship in 2001.:rolleyes:

Luthor

12/8/2006, 04:26 PM

The refs blew the call(s) at Oregon in unprecedented fashion (for a crew with access to replay). That has been hashed and rehashed by more people than I can count (most of them non-Sooner fans). Even your puke orange delusional self has to admit that.

I can fully admit (as I did immediately following the game) that my team blew the game. Couldn't stop the last two TD drives, and couldn't capitalize on great field position to make an easy FG with (arguably) the best kicker in the NCAA.

I can also fully admit that Paul Thompson made some huge mistakes in the RRS that cost us (to go along with superhuman efforts from Aaron Ross and Colt McCoy). I can admit that AD made some huge mistakes that resulted in a costly turnover and a whorn TD.

Don't get all huffy with me, Luthor. I'm not the one that blew a missed opportunity for a Big XII championship in 2001.:rolleyes:

We absolutely, positively whiffed on not 1 but 2 chances to walk into the CCG. The KSU loss was entirely on the back of our D for giving up 45 frigg'n points to the same team who couldn't wait to get donkey stomped the very next week by feckless KU.

My huffiness is not directed at you. I'm still torqued out of shape over our seniors laying down in Manhattan.