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OU-HSV

12/3/2006, 08:36 PM

http://admin.xosn.com/fls/9900/stats/football/teamcume.htm?SPSID=48554&SPID=4061&DB_OEM_ID=9900

www.broncosports.com

In this link, note the Ian Johnson guy from Boise State, he's had some big games for them this year. But have they played anyone w/a solid run defense?

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/stats

AzianSooner

12/3/2006, 08:41 PM

a solid team.

Oldnslo

12/3/2006, 08:46 PM

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sooner518

12/3/2006, 08:52 PM

How is their run defense? I think AD has the chance for a big big game against these guys as I would imagine they are somewhat undersized on defense

AzianSooner

12/3/2006, 08:54 PM

AD still need to recover his speed. He needs to practices hard in the next 4 weeks in order to be in full speed at the game time.

OU-HSV

12/3/2006, 08:56 PM

How is their run defense? I think AD has the chance for a big big game against these guys as I would imagine they are somewhat undersized on defense
http://statistics.ncaafootball.com/default.asp?c=ncaa-football&page=cfoot/stat/ncaa-team-rushing-defense.htm

They're 15th in total D and 8th in run D

Oldnslo

12/3/2006, 09:06 PM

http://statistics.ncaafootball.com/default.asp?c=ncaa-football&page=cfoot/stat/ncaa-team-rushing-defense.htm

They're 15th in total D and 8th in run D
yeah, but against Nevada. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO PLAYS FOR NEVADA! :twinkies:

BOOMERBRADLEY

12/3/2006, 09:24 PM

Well their biggest win would havw to be against Hawaii im sure.

Their D numbers might be a little skewed...

shelley45

12/3/2006, 09:33 PM

Well their biggest win would havw to be against Hawaii im sure.

Their D numbers might be a little skewed...
there biggest win is against oregon st.

Egeo

12/3/2006, 09:36 PM

yeah, but against Nevada. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO PLAYS FOR NEVADA! :twinkies:
well, they're on scholarship - i can tell you that much

just like boise's players

SoonerFanInAustin

12/3/2006, 09:37 PM

So here is a look at the Boise oppts and where they rate in rushing at the end of the season:

Sacramento - Div 1-AA
Oregon St - 83
Wyoming - 61
Hawaii - 86
Utah - 56
La Tech - 64
NM St - 114
Idaho - 90
Fresno St - 19 (180 yds pg)
San Jose St - 15 (184.33 yds pg)
Utah St - 89
Nevada - 22 (176.83 yds pg)

Oklahoma - 21 (177.38 yds pg)

Here is a look at the top rushing teams that Boise played

San Jose game - Only ran the ball 27 times. Boise had the ball 9:00 minutes than San Jose. (Avg 40 carries per gm)
Fresno St game - Only ran the ball 26 times. Was down 24-7 at half and 38-7 in the 3rd. Had to start throwing. Again Boise controlled the clock by 10:00 minutes. (Avg 39 carries per gm)
Nevada game - Only ran the ball 22 times. Was down 17-0 at half and 31-0 in the 3rd. Had to throw. Boise only controlled the clock by 5 minutes.

Egeo

12/3/2006, 09:40 PM

nebraska's run defense (after stoning us) is ranked 43rd

OU-HSV

12/4/2006, 09:46 PM

yeah, but against Nevada. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO PLAYS FOR NEVADA! :twinkies:
I didn't make this thread to dog on Boise, it's more of an informative thread. I think we're all in agreement that their toughest two games were Oregon State and Hawaii. But I started this thread to let people know a few things about them. Heck, I didn't know a whole lot about them til I dug some stuff up.

bixby28

12/4/2006, 09:56 PM

How is their run defense? I think AD has the chance for a big big game against these guys as I would imagine they are somewhat undersized on defense

I was researching this team last night and noticed their short corners. Kelly and the guys should have a huge advantage at WR.

I think Peterson will have a huge night, too.

StoopTroup

12/4/2006, 10:34 PM

I watched the Hawaii v Oregon State game the other night.

Defense never came to my mind in that one.

Boxscore (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=263360062&confId=null)

shavedmarmoset

12/4/2006, 10:35 PM

Do they sell out their stadium?

85Sooner

12/4/2006, 10:57 PM

Do they sell out their stadium?
Nope. Boone Pickens Wife attended that school and their holding 600$ seats for the donors. You know , the blood donors they are now recruiting for Jan 1st.:D

ClintonSooner

12/4/2006, 11:12 PM

what kinda poll are they looking at?

The bcs and coaches has us 8th-7th and them 10-11

I lawled

ClintonSooner

12/4/2006, 11:18 PM

Them (broncos)
(catergory)
Us (sooners)

473 pts | 39.4 avg.
Scoring
382 pts | 29.4 avg.

258
First Downs
234

2,674 yds
Rushing
2,306 yds

5.2 ypc | 222.8 ypg
Rush Avg.
4.4 ypc | 177.4 ypg

2,417 yds
Passing
2,449 yds

13.1 ypc | 201.4 ypg
Pass Avg.
13.2 ypc | 188.4 ypg

792 plays | 5,091 yds | 6.4 ypp
Total Offense
827 plays | 4,755 yds | 5.7 ypp

27 - 537 yds | 19.9 avg.
Kick Returns
31 - 759 | 24.5 avg.

31 - 270 yds | 8.7 avg.
Punt Returns
34 - 272 | 8.0 avg.

17 - 388 yds | 22.8 avg. | 3 tds
Int Returns
17 - 190 | 11.2 avg. | 2 tds

19 (Lost 9)
Fumbles
32 (Lost 21)

68 - 585 yds | 48.8 avg.
Penalties
63 - 486 | 37.4 avg.

40 - 44.1 avg. | 36.3 net
Punts
57 - 39.6 avg. | 37.0 net

31:49/game
TOP
31:31/game

63 of 140 (45%)
3rd Dn Conv.
69 of 167 (41%)

15 of 19 (79%)
4th Dn Conv.
7 of 11 (64%)

31 - 176 yds
Sacks By
23 - 187 yds

62
Touchdowns
47

13 of 14
Field Goals
17 of 18

0
On-Side Kicks
0 of 1

59 of 66 (83%)
Red-Zone TDs
30 of 47 (64%)

56 of 58
PAT - 1
45 of 46

2 of 4
PAT - 2
0 of 1

182,718 (30,453/home game)
Attendance
587,397 (83,914/home game)

TheLlama

12/4/2006, 11:28 PM

Sacramento State W 45-0
Oregon State W 42-14
at Wyoming W 17-10
Hawaii W 41-34
at Utah W 36-3
Louisiana Tech W 55-14
at New Mexico State W 40-28
at Idaho W 42-26
Fresno State W 45-21
at San Jose State W 23-20
Utah State W 49-10
at Nevada W 38-7

Not much to brag about there.

bar4d

12/4/2006, 11:33 PM

This is a good thread, informative and courteous. Hope it stays that way.

Yep, this is Boise State's biggest game in their football history. They have won National Championships in football before. And yes, the Broncos will be lucky to pull off a win...but they will give you guys a good game...and who knows what might happen.

A word about your sad bad call loss to Oregon. That is the way the PAC 10 refs operate. Boise State lost two close games at Oregon State from awful calls, close to the goal line. Later the PAC 10 apologized to the Bronco's as I believe they did to you.

Here is more stuff about Ian Johnson. Hope this link works. He is very quick and deceptive. If not go to Broncosports.com and click on the Ian for Heisman link. We all hope AD is well and able to give us his 100%.

http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=663922

The Ensuing Kickoff

12/4/2006, 11:43 PM

Ian Johnson is a stud. After I watched two games in the early going this season, I was sure he'd be in NYC as a Heisman finalist.

BoomerSooner247

12/4/2006, 11:43 PM

http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=663922
i was looking at that video before and i still notice one thing... NO DEFENSE i mean seriously look how crappy those teams D is. they have 5 men surrounding him and they all stand there and expect the other guy to tackle him. he is fast ill give you that much, but so is AD, AP, and Brown. not really a bash against BSU more a bash against the teams they played and how poor their D is. is it Jan 1st yet?

bar4d

12/5/2006, 07:21 PM

No one has been able to stop Ian Johnson including his Southern California high school days .

His ypc, including high school, has always been close to seven yard.

CatfishSooner

12/5/2006, 07:40 PM

who cares?

TUSooner

12/5/2006, 08:05 PM

franklinjake

12/5/2006, 08:23 PM

They seem like a team that doesn't make mistakes - I would assume ythey don;t turn the ball over. If they stay true to form, they will stay in the game; if we get caeless, they could actually win. On the other hand, if we take care of the ball, I don't think they can measure up. Frankly, this game scares me as much as aTm or OSU.

I can't wait though until they play a big physical team like Oklahoma. I know they can score points, but I am not buying into the hype of a close game. I'm sorry, I can't be politically correct and say "they ar e great football team". They are in the WAC, but not when you mix them in against big football temas. Do you remember the *** kicking they recieved at Georgia last year (and was supposedly a better Boise State tewam than last year). I really think that we will blow them out. If all it takes is to have a perfect season to be where Boise State is ranked, then lets play a WAC schedule, or Big East schedule. I can't wait for the shelacking these Boise State players will take on both sides of the ball from a big, fast, and physical OU football team. All I hope is, the Boise State will come out of the locker room for more of a whipping after half time. BOOMER SOONER!

Easy180

12/5/2006, 08:37 PM

hey bar4d...Checkout the breakdown by your boy Goat on sportsline's forum...The last line is classic...Says coaching is a tossup..He knows his football

QB: Jared Zabransky vs. Paul Thompson: Advantage: BSU (slight)

Running game: Boise has more rushing yards in 1 less game than OU. Weaker SOS though. If AP is back he might be rusty, although the other AP has done well filling in. Advantage: BSU (slight)

WRs: Boise has 3 receivers with over 500 yds this season, OU has 1 but that one is Malcolm Kelly. BSU has completed passes to 16 different receivers this year, OU to 14 (2 no longer on team). Advantage: Too close to call

O-line: Boise's running game has been more effective but have allowed 18 sacks in 11 games, OU has allowed 17 in 13. Advantage: OU (slight)

Run D: Boise allows 80.2 rush ypg against 1-A teams. OU allows 96.4. OU has 24 sacks in 13 games, BSU has 27 in 11. Advantage: BSU (slight)

Pass D: Boise allows 202.2 pass ypg, including 526 againt NMSU and 386 to Hawaii, both top 3 passing teams. OU allows 182.4 pass ypg. Advantage: OU (slight)

Special teams: Advantage: Too close to call

SOS: Boise is ranked 83. OU is ranked 52. Advantage: OU

Coaching: Too close to call

Midtowner

12/5/2006, 11:17 PM

Easy -- hilarious.

PAW

12/5/2006, 11:26 PM

Using those stats as a comparison is a joke. I have no clue where he got that SOS, maybe the NCAA, which uses stratight wins/losses.

An assorted group of SOS's:

Congrove
OU 27
BSB 100

Sagarin
OU 33
BSB 99

Anderson & Hester
OU 41
BSB 91

Billingsley
OU 14
BSB 108

Colley Matrix
OU 58
BSB 99

Massey
OU 44
BSB 81

Taken as a whole

OU - 36
BSB - 96

It would be good to keep this in mind when perusing any statiscal comparison between OU and BS.

Jello Biafra

12/5/2006, 11:32 PM

No one has been able to stop Ian Johnson including his Southern California high school days .

His ypc, including high school, has always been close to seven yard.

hmmm didn't we hear the same things going into the game against a certain heisman trophy candidate from iowa state? just wondering. been a long time ago as i recall in the 2001 cotton bowl....arkansas would whoop our assses but good??? yeh. they got twisted to the tune of 46 yards of total offense......

BSU fans.....don't be too angered by arrogance but we've heard it all before. the minute this team hears about a player that should be or IS mentioned for heisman etc.....he will get bent over. seeing as how this may be OUs only shot at young Ian, look out.

Winston Churchill

12/6/2006, 01:48 AM

http://users.mtrx.net/funnypics/content/-rdm1-ABCD1234-rdm1-/2006/2006-04-25-0001/_Grandma_looks_weird.jpg

DenverSooner751

12/6/2006, 10:29 AM

sooneron

12/6/2006, 10:33 AM

They were using the 'Bama championship calculation as their base formula for figuring out SOS.

What a bunch of tool sheds.
There you have it, the difference is only 60 and they score 10 more points a game, therefore, bs by 4.

Rock Hard Corn Frog

12/6/2006, 12:37 PM

My old high school beat them 49-14 this year en route to their 7th state title so I don't put too much stock on how Boise did against them...:D

Heres some action from an epic 2003 match-up.

http://www.wccards.k12.mo.us/highschool/whatshappening/2003-2004/wcvsnevada/nevada.html

Egeo

12/6/2006, 02:07 PM

i was looking at that video before and i still notice one thing... NO DEFENSE i mean seriously look how crappy those teams D is. they have 5 men surrounding him and they all stand there and expect the other guy to tackle him. he is fast ill give you that much, but so is AD, AP, and Brown. not really a bash against BSU more a bash against the teams they played and how poor their D is. is it Jan 1st yet?
larry birdine said that about usc a couple of years ago...

StoopTroup

12/6/2006, 07:16 PM

http://users.mtrx.net/funnypics/content/-rdm1-ABCD1234-rdm1-/2006/2006-04-25-0001/_Grandma_looks_weird.jpg
heh.

BoomerSooner247

12/6/2006, 08:09 PM

larry birdine said that about usc a couple of years ago...not sure what you mean by that? but even the Broncos coach admits (in a nutshell) that they don't play teams with that great of defense
The Broncos' ground game will face its toughest test of the season against the Sooners, who allow 97.85 yards per game, 18th in the nation.

"We certainly haven't seen a defense of this caliber all year long," Petersen said.http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls06/news/story?id=2685369

Dan Thompson

12/6/2006, 08:52 PM

A couple of other issues.

The QB is there 4th leading rusher and they like to go for it on 4th down.

In the three games that where close, Hawaii, Wyoming, and San Jose St.
Boise St went for it on 4th down about 6 or 7 times.

Not that this means anything, its just they way they play.

arlington

12/6/2006, 09:30 PM

Noone in the WAC runs the ball so take away the high rankings against the run of Fresno, Nevada and SJSU..Its a wheels off throw the ball all over the place conference.

DenverSooner751

12/6/2006, 11:08 PM

Noone in the WAC runs the ball so take away the high rankings against the run of Fresno, Nevada and SJSU..Its a wheels off throw the ball all over the place conference.

They also like to play there Sophmore in high school sized corners in a cover two deep. That is what I gather at least, not that I'm a defensive jean-yus or n e thang but that is what I could see.

Sooooooooooo, if you guys have not heard, 'Bama just won a national championship today and I also heard that CU was getting an untimed 5th down play tonight....they might be able to become bowl eligible by this time next year if they keep up this pace.

In all seriousness, I for one like to trash talk any opponent because I have a bias....but from an objective point of view I will say this, their D may be under sized but they are fairly athletic. The play that will determine our success will be play action. Especially if AD is capable of putting a couple of good runs together early on. They WILL sell out the run.....as most teams have done against AD. I feel this will leave their secondary on a deserted island all by themselves with whoelse? Malcom Kelly and ENA's arm delivering the message in a bottle.....that message will read....go back to playing little sisters of the blind......Signed....GOD.

P.S.- From now on we shall refer to BS as Taco Bell U.

Pepper

12/6/2006, 11:38 PM

Statistical break downs mean nothing in this case because the schedules were so different. Unless you can prove a size or speed mismatch in favor of Boise, I'm thinking most positions OU has distinct advantages. I think if OU's defense limits big plays, as they have been doing, then OU wins big. Otherwise Boise could pull the upset.

DenverSooner751

12/6/2006, 11:52 PM