Boise State fans are insane

[OU Adonis]

I was checking out their message boards and some of the stuff they are saying.. woa.

They don't want to play anyone from the B-12 because we are not in the top 5. They want USC or Notre Dame.

http://mb14.scout.com/fboisestatefrm7

[TopDawg]

Can you blame them? They want to prove themselves this year, and this is a down year for the Big XII.

[OUHOMER]

What I saw , was most thought NU will win the big12cg

[Texas Golfer]

Dawg, I don't necessarily agree that this is a down year for the Big XII.

OU is better.
OSU is better.
A&M is better.
NU is better.
MU is better.
KU is better.
KSU is better.

[sanantoniosooner]

Dawg, I don't necessarily agree that this is a down year for the Big XII.

OU is better.
OSU is better.
A&M is better.
NU is better.
MU is better.
KU is better.
KSU is better.
OU is better from average and a very good team.
OSU is barely bowl eligible
aTm is so so.
MU is average.
KU is slightly below average
KSU got lucky in one game.
NU is ruling a pathetic north.
UT isn't a shadow of their team last year.

The conference is crap right now.

[TopDawg]

Dawg, I don't necessarily agree that this is a down year for the Big XII.

OU is better.
OSU is better.
A&M is better.
NU is better.
MU is better.
KU is better.
KSU is better.

Big XII Teams in the Final AP Poll Top 25 since 2000

2000
1 - OU
8 - Nebraska
9 - KSU
12 - Texas
25 - ISU

2001
5 - Texas
6 - OU
8 - Nebraska
9 - Colorado

2002
5 - Oklahoma
6 - Texas
7 - KSU
20 - Colorado

2003
3 - OU
12 - Texas
14 - KSU
19 - Nebraska

2004
3 - OU
5 - Texas
18 - Texas Tech

2005
1- Texas
20- Texas Tech
22 - Oklahoma
24 - Nebraska

2000-2003 we had 4 teams in the Top 20 EACH YEAR. In 2004 we only had 3 in the entire Top 25 and last year we only had two in the Top 20. So while the teams you listed are better than they were a year ago, it's clear that last year was ALSO a down year for the Big XII...AND...we can assume that there are still 5 teams (that you didn't list) that are worse than they were last year.

[Scotty]

Some BSU fan quotes:


"i don't [think] oklahoma can beat nebraska either. it's nebraska's to lose at this point, imho"


"Good! Bring on Nebraska! Yes, that was a terrible cheep shot on the A&M guy. Now we need to root for Arkansas. "


"That was quite a pillow fight." (on the aTm UT game; I found this ironic)


"maybe we just might get our shot at "mighty OU"! then we can see who really is the better team"


"Texas win not likely, especially with their QB down. So there are other possibilities, but I think Nebraska is likely"


"I'd rather see Notre Dame! "


"My order of choice if we were to make it:

1) Nebraska
2) Notre Dame
3) Oklahoma
4) Texas "


"At this rate, I have no stomach in playing a Big 12 team... we could be playing a 4-loss team in our bowl game, which will negate our sense of accomplishment in a victory"


:pop:

[TopDawg]

That probably comes more from their proximity to Nebraska than from anything else.

[garland sooner]

what four loss teams are they talking about?

[47straight]

Good for Boise State - dream big. The only way to climb to the top. I think it's cool their fans want the most marquee opponent they can get, rather than a lesser one they'd more likely be able to beat.

[Fraggle145]

They can go to hell.

[SoonerFanInAustin]

OMG....what is Boise St thinking....their best win is against Oregon St and they are complaining about their Big XII opponent. I know, I know we need to take one game at a time. Lets just take care of Okie St first....Don't want to look to far ahead....

[MITSooner]

I would like them to play Notre Dame as well.


I mean come on... who really wants to play Boise St?

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Boise State > Oregon State

Oregon State > Oregon

Oregon > OU ;)

Therefore, Boise State > OU

We shouldn't play the game, accept the bid and don't show up, game is already decided...OU could keep a little more money...;)

Personally, if we played Boise State, I don't think they would know what hit them...

[All_Day_28]

Boise State > Oregon State

Oregon State > Oregon

Oregon > OU ;)

Therefore, Boise State > OU

We shouldn't play the game, accept the bid and don't show up, game is already decided...OU could keep a little more money...;)

Personally, if we played Boise State, I don't think they would know what hit them...
I've been gettin flamed and negged all day for saying the same thing...:mad:

[Ike]

If I were them, I'd be wanting whoever was 3rd in the BCS poll, just to have a chance to prove they belong. In a game like that, they don't even have to win, they just have to not get blown out.

Against a "lesser" (and I use that word as loosely as possible...not to mean a team that really is lesser than a USC or a Notre Dame, but one that is perceived to be so by the national media) opponent, they not only have to win to prove they belong, but they have to do so in a very convincing fashion. ...and if they lose that game, they get dismissed for the next 5 years or so.


So I can't say that I blame them. If I were them, I wouldn't want to play us either, because we are greatly underrated.

[rebmus]

Can you blame them? They want to prove themselves this year, .

then they (boise st.) should have scheduled someone worth a damn in the regular season.

had they played nebraska, oklahoma, florida, arkansas, michigan, louisville, etc... i'd argue FOR boise st. as of now, they made their bed, they can lie in it.

[Crimson Kid]

then they (boise st.) should have scheduled someone worth a damn in the regular season.

had they played nebraska, oklahoma, florida, arkansas, michigan, louisville, etc... i'd argue FOR boise st. as of now, they made their bed, they can lie in it.

Totally agree.............

[rebmus]

I would like them to play Notre Dame as well.


screw that... i want ND to play a top team and get an annual bowl game arse kicking.

seriously, i doubt ND could beat nebraska, oklahoma, or texas. (need i move to other conferences?)

[rebmus]

Totally agree.............

thanks crimson (i'm assuming bama fan).

imo, boise st. looks pretty equal to bama and georgia. not "bad" teams by any means, but far from a "top notch" team. i'd like to see boise play a bama/uga type team in a bowl so they'd be exposed in a "lesser bowl".

no offense to boise... they went undefeated (grats) but they TOTALLY pussed on the schedule.

[TopDawg]

then they (boise st.) should have scheduled someone worth a damn in the regular season.

had they played nebraska, oklahoma, florida, arkansas, michigan, louisville, etc... i'd argue FOR boise st. as of now, they made their bed, they can lie in it.

Ask USC if Oregon State is "worth a damn." They didn't just beat Oregon State, they killed them. 42-14. And Hawaii is ranked higher than most of our opponents this year.

It's not like we're sitting in a position where we've got a lot of quality wins either. We just have more prestige than them.

Do I think we'd win if we played them? Yes. Can I blame them for wanting a higher ranked team? Not at all.

[StoopTroup]

I wonder if they are planning to use their bottled Whoop-a$$ opener on us...

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sportsunlimited_1926_38746295

[StoopTroup]

HEE-HAW ! ! !

http://www.i-sportsbook.com/bestofthebowls/mpc_computers_bowl.jpg

[rebmus]

Ask USC if Oregon State is "worth a damn." They didn't just beat Oregon State, they killed them. 42-14. And Hawaii is ranked higher than most of our opponents this year.

It's not like we're sitting in a position where we've got a lot of quality wins either. We just have more prestige than them.

Do I think we'd win if we played them? Yes. Can I blame them for wanting a higher ranked team? Not at all.

boise's biggest win is vs a hawaii team that lost to a mediocre bama team. hawaii may be 9-2, but they didn't beat anyone and lost to the decent OOC team they played. (that's the in conference win)

OOC win... the biggest for boise is oregon st (8-4).
i respect the fact that OSU beat USC, BUT OSU also lost to cal (respectable), washington state (debatable), and ucla (you gonna call them good?) along with the loss to boise st.

still, BEFORE the season (when schedules are made), who would have guessed OSU would have beaten USC to make them half respecable?
boise blew it by pussing on the schedule. that CAN'T be argued by anyone sensible.

[All_Day_28]

boise's biggest win is vs a hawaii team that lost to a mediocre bama team. hawaii may be 9-2, but they didn't beat anyone and lost to the decent OOC team they played. (that's the in conference win)

OOC win... the biggest for boise is oregon st (8-4).
i respect the fact that OSU beat USC, BUT OSU also lost to cal (respectable), washington state (debatable), and ucla (you gonna call them good?) along with the loss to boise st.

still, BEFORE the season (when schedules are made), who would have guessed OSU would have beaten USC to make them half respecable?
boise blew it by pussing on the schedule. that CAN'T be argued by anyone sensible.
:pop:

[StoopTroup]

Could be that Nevada might have something to say before the broncs go 12-0.

[rebmus]

:pop:

lol... don't get me wrong.

i'm all for the WAC champ, CUSA champ, MAC champ, Sun Belt champ, etc having a shot at the natty... but SOS should matter.

for example, southern miss played florida and v. tech OOC this year (they lost both). HAD usm won those games and gone undefeated, i'd argue for their right to play for a natty. at least usm nutted up and played good OOC teams.

[TopDawg]

boise's biggest win is vs a hawaii team that lost to a mediocre bama team. hawaii may be 9-2, but they didn't beat anyone and lost to the decent OOC team they played. (that's the in conference win)

I'm not going to defend Boise State's schedule as a whole. They have played some quality teams, but when you look at the entire body of work, I realize it's not awe-inspiring.



OOC win... the biggest for boise is oregon st (8-4).
i respect the fact that OSU beat USC, BUT OSU also lost to cal (respectable), washington state (debatable), and ucla (you gonna call them good?) along with the loss to boise st.

But they HAVE won every game they've played. We lost to a Texas team that lost to Kansas State (not respectable) and Texas A&M (debatable). And we lost to an Oregon team that lost to...well, hell...a lot of teams, including a team that Boise State SLAUGHTERED.


still, BEFORE the season (when schedules are made), who would have guessed OSU would have beaten USC to make them half respecable?
boise blew it by pussing on the schedule. that CAN'T be argued by anyone sensible.

But how long before the season? They've played Oregon State each of the last 4 years, so this contract was probably set up around 2001 or 02. Just so happens that Oregon State finished the season at #4 in 2000. So maybe they were trying to set up a big time OOC game when they set that up.

[royalfan5]

Since Boise packs their stadium they don't need to take money games that are to their disadvantage over the long haul. I bet if OU or any national power offered them even a 2 for 1 they would take it, but most national progams don't have the balls to go up to Boise and play them.

[rebmus]

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But how long before the season? They've played Oregon State each of the last 4 years, so this contract was probably set up around 2001 or 02. Just so happens that Oregon State finished the season at #4 in 2000. So maybe they were trying to set up a big time OOC game when they set that up.
true.. but surely you'll admit the #4 team in the pac 10 isn't that impressive. other than cal and usc, who in the pac 10 IS usually impressive? ok, i'll give oregon at #3. beyond those 3? nobody in the pac 10 is recognized.

boise st. didn't make a lot of attempt of scheduling hard OOC.

don't give me "couldn't have" excuse... look at southern miss (which i'm not a big fan of), they scheduled florida and v. tech. IF boise had done the same, i'd be argueing FOR boise st.

[TopDawg]

If we would've won all of our games this year, I'd probably feel differently about this...about us ridiculing an undefeated team. Or even if we had a big victory to hang our hats on. While we have played a tougher schedule than Boise State, they've rolled through their's for the most part while we've had a few scares and two losses.

I'm proud of what we've accomplished this year, but I think that Boise State's fans are well within the realms of reason to want to play a higher ranked team than us. They want a chance to show what they're made of. They'll either win and show everyone else that they deserved it, or they'll lose and be exposed as the benefactors of an easy schedule. I don't see what's so bad about that.

[rebmus]

Since Boise packs their stadium they don't need to take money games that are to their disadvantage over the long haul. I bet if OU or any national power offered them even a 2 for 1 they would take it, but most national progams don't have the balls to go up to Boise and play them.
if "national programs" don't have the balls to travel to boise, boise has to have the balls (and give up the money) to travel to "national programs" to validate their right to play for the natty.

i'm not saying that's totally fair, just saying boise knew dang well before the season started that a undefeated season with this schedule (barring a LOT of upsets) wouldn't get them enough respect. it's boise's own fault.

[royalfan5]

if "national programs" don't have the balls to travel to boise, boise has to have the balls (and give up the money) to travel to "national programs" to validate their right to play for the natty.

i'm not saying that's totally fair, just saying boise knew dang well before the season started that a undefeated season with this schedule (barring a LOT of upsets) wouldn't get them enough respect. it's boise's own fault.
In a 2 for 1 Boise would travel twice. It's not that complicated.

[rebmus]

If we would've won all of our games this year, I'd probably feel differently about this...about us ridiculing an undefeated team. Or even if we had a big victory to hang our hats on. While we have played a tougher schedule than Boise State, they've rolled through their's for the most part while we've had a few scares and two losses.

I'm proud of what we've accomplished this year, but I think that Boise State's fans are well within the realms of reason to want to play a higher ranked team than us. They want a chance to show what they're made of. They'll either win and show everyone else that they deserved it, or they'll lose and be exposed as the benefactors of an easy schedule. I don't see what's so bad about that.

ok, i can agree with that. if we're talking about boise getting a ~$14million bowl while getting left out of the natty game... i don't have a problem with that. heck, if boise didn't finish top 8 and get a ~$14million game i wouldn't overly have a problem with it.
for boise to gripe about who they play in a ~$14million bowl is laughable. a 2 loss texas, lsu, or auburn (off the top of my head) team would love that bowl and not complain about the opponent.

[TopDawg]

true.. but surely you'll admit the #4 team in the pac 10 isn't that impressive. other than cal and usc, who in the pac 10 IS usually impressive? ok, i'll give oregon at #3. beyond those 3? nobody in the pac 10 is recognized.

That's my point, though...at the time this contract was probably set up, Oregon State wasn't the #4 team in the Pac 10. If they set these schedules up anything like OU does, you can assume that it was set up around 2001 or 2002. In 99, 2000 and 01, Oregon State finished #5, #1 and #2 in the Pac 10. As a reference, Cal finished 6, 8 and 1, USC finished 6, 8 and 2 (tied with OSU), and Oregon finished 2, 1 and 7. So over those 3 years that probably preceded them setting up this contract, you could argue that Oregon State was the best Pac 10 team. Even if you take 2002, OSU and Oregon are still on top of that list over that time span, because although they finished 9th, Cal was 8, and USC and Oregon tied for 4.

[Boise Bandit]

Boise State > Oregon State

Oregon State > Oregon

Oregon > OU ;)

Therefore, Boise State > OU

We shouldn't play the game, accept the bid and don't show up, game is already decided...OU could keep a little more money...;)

Personally, if we played Boise State, I don't think they would know what hit them...


Finally somebody gets it.

[rebmus]

In a 2 for 1 Boise would travel twice. It's not that complicated.
nope, not compicated at all.

i don't care if it's always an away game, IF boise wants to make themselves legit, they have to man up and play all away games for a while to put themselves in position.

again, southern miss does it all the time.
if i'm not mistaken, florida state built their program doing this.

[Boise Bandit]

If we would've won all of our games this year, I'd probably feel differently about this...about us ridiculing an undefeated team. Or even if we had a big victory to hang our hats on. While we have played a tougher schedule than Boise State, they've rolled through their's for the most part while we've had a few scares and two losses.

I'm proud of what we've accomplished this year, but I think that Boise State's fans are well within the realms of reason to want to play a higher ranked team than us. They want a chance to show what they're made of. They'll either win and show everyone else that they deserved it, or they'll lose and be exposed as the benefactors of an easy schedule. I don't see what's so bad about that.


I think I'm in love . . . are you a chick or a dude?

Does OU have any chicks for fans or just redneck farmers?

[Texas Golfer]

OU is better from average and a very good team.
OSU is barely bowl eligible
aTm is so so.
MU is average.
KU is slightly below average
KSU got lucky in one game.
NU is ruling a pathetic north.
UT isn't a shadow of their team last year.

The conference is crap right now.

The discussion is not how the Big XII teams compare to other NCAA teams but how they compare to last year. I'm saying that the Big XII is better overall this year than last and last year the Big XII won the "Conference Cup" for having the best bowl record.

[TopDawg]

if "national programs" don't have the balls to travel to boise, boise has to have the balls (and give up the money) to travel to "national programs" to validate their right to play for the natty.

i'm not saying that's totally fair, just saying boise knew dang well before the season started that a undefeated season with this schedule (barring a LOT of upsets) wouldn't get them enough respect. it's boise's own fault.

I haven't been over to their message boards, but are they complaining that they're not getting enough respect or are they wanting to play a top-notch team? The impression I get is that they understand why they're not a natty contender, but they want to play the best team they can so that they can earn that respect. As far as I'm concerned, more power to them. I hardly think that type of behavior makes them "insane." It's probably the same thing we want, too, right? We're talking about not wanting to play Boise State because we don't think it'll get us the recognition we want. How is that any different than what they're saying. They could just turn around to us and say "well if you would've just won the games on your schedule, then you'd already have that respect. it's your own fault."

[royalfan5]

nope, not compicated at all.

i don't care if it's always an away game, IF boise wants to make themselves legit, they have to man up and play all away games for a while to put themselves in position.

again, southern miss does it all the time.
if i'm not mistaken, florida state built their program doing this.
Southern Miss has shifted to 2 for 1's. Nebraska went down to Hattiesburg a few years ago, and we are doing a 2 for 1 with Wake. Boise State has traveled for one offs in the past, but their fans support at home, means they lose out on a lot of money if they traveled a ton.

[Boise Bandit]

I wonder if they are planning to use their bottled Whoop-a$$ opener on us...

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sportsunlimited_1926_38746295

Fear the bottle opener.

[TopDawg]

The discussion is not how the Big XII teams compare to other NCAA teams but how they compare to last year. I'm saying that the Big XII is better overall this year than last and last year the Big XII won the "Conference Cup" for having the best bowl record.

But we still finished the season with only 1 team in the Top 19. If that's not a down year for the Big XII, then we are not the power conference I thought we were.

[Texas Golfer]

Big XII Teams in the Final AP Poll Top 25 since 2000

2000
1 - OU
8 - Nebraska
9 - KSU
12 - Texas
25 - ISU

2001
5 - Texas
6 - OU
8 - Nebraska
9 - Colorado

2002
5 - Oklahoma
6 - Texas
7 - KSU
20 - Colorado

2003
3 - OU
12 - Texas
14 - KSU
19 - Nebraska

2004
3 - OU
5 - Texas
18 - Texas Tech

2005
1- Texas
20- Texas Tech
22 - Oklahoma
24 - Nebraska

2000-2003 we had 4 teams in the Top 20 EACH YEAR. In 2004 we only had 3 in the entire Top 25 and last year we only had two in the Top 20. So while the teams you listed are better than they were a year ago, it's clear that last year was ALSO a down year for the Big XII...AND...we can assume that there are still 5 teams (that you didn't list) that are worse than they were last year.

The difference on what you determine to be a good conference and what I consider a good conference. To you, a good conference has four or so teams in the top 25 and I consider a good conference one in which, overall, our teams beat the teams in other conferences.

The Big XII has more parity this year and I think that is good. Of the 12 teams, I stipulated that I thought 7 are better than last year and 5 are not as good. I think that makes us (the Big XII) better (overall) this year.

[sanantoniosooner]

The difference on what you determine to be a good conference and what I consider a good conference. To you, a good conference has four or so teams in the top 25 and I consider a good conference one in which, overall, our teams beat the teams in other conferences.

The Big XII has more parity this year and I think that is good. Of the 12 teams, I stipulated that I thought 7 are better than last year and 5 are not as good. I think that makes us (the Big XII) better (overall) this year.
that depends.

If the 7 teams are only marginally better but the 5 are WAY worse, it's not an even tradeoff.

[TopDawg]

The difference on what you determine to be a good conference and what I consider a good conference. To you, a good conference has four or so teams in the top 25 and I consider a good conference one in which, overall, our teams beat the teams in other conferences.

The Big XII has more parity this year and I think that is good. Of the 12 teams, I stipulated that I thought 7 are better than last year and 5 are not as good. I think that makes us (the Big XII) better (overall) this year.

Yeah, I agree that we're better than last year. But last year was a down year too. Last year we were even MORE down than this year. Just because we're better than we were last year doesn't mean this is a good year for the Big XII.

When you look at what the Big XII has done over the past 6 years, do you really think this year isn't a down year? It'll be only the 2nd time we haven't had someone in the title game. Is it the first time during that span that we'll have a conference champ with multiple losses?

[Texas Golfer]

If we had OU and UT in the top 5, Nebraska and Tech or A&M in the top 20 and the other 8 teams in the bottom 10, I wouldn't consider us has having a strong conference.

I remember the days of the Big 8 when OU and NU were in the top 5 consistently. We were known as the Big 2 and Little 6. We weren't necessarily considered a strong conference.

[tbl]

We still have Stoolwater tomorrow, and if we win there, we have to play Nebbish. It's pretty unsettling to see all the talk about playing Boise St in the Fiesta. I mean, I understand why, but I'd much rather get through Stoolwater first, then play our classic rivalry with Nebbish before we even start talking smack on Boise St.

[Doged]

I'm one of those who think Boise State is vastly outclassed by any potential BCS opponent, Sooners included.

When it's stated they "rolled" through their schedule that needs to be taken in context. They beat Wyoming by 7, Hawaii by 7 and San Jose St by 3. They played (and beat) only one BCS conference school in their entire season (by comparison, we played 10).

As to the Big12, I can name 7 conference teams that I would have as favorites over Boise State if they were to play.

The real problem with putting them in a BCS bowl is that it's a lose-lose situation for their opponent. Even if they get blown out 77-0 whoever they play will get no lift out of it, while if they pull off the upset their opponent's momentum headed in to next season takes a major hit.

Boise State is to be commended for their unbeaten season (presuming they beat Nevada), but if they want to play with the big boys at the end of the season they need to nut up and replace those 1AA and MWC opponents on their schedule with BCS conference opponents.

I mean, c'mon.. there have been BCS conference teams left out of the BCS bowls based on having played a creampuff non-conference schedule. Why should Boise State suddenly get respect for playing an entire schedule of creampuffs with only one exception?

[All_Day_28]

I'm one of those who think Boise State is vastly outclassed by any potential BCS opponent, Sooners included.

When it's stated they "rolled" through their schedule that needs to be taken in context. They beat Wyoming by 7, Hawaii by 7 and San Jose St by 3. They played (and beat) only one BCS conference school in their entire season (by comparison, we played 10).

As to the Big12, I can name 7 conference teams that I would have as favorites over Boise State if they were to play.

The real problem with putting them in a BCS bowl is that it's a lose-lose situation for their opponent. Even if they get blown out 77-0 whoever they play will get no lift out of it, while if they pull off the upset their opponent's momentum headed in to next season takes a major hit.

Boise State is to be commended for their unbeaten season (presuming they beat Nevada), but if they want to play with the big boys at the end of the season they need to nut up and replace those 1AA and MWC opponents on their schedule with BCS conference opponents.

I mean, c'mon.. there have been BCS conference teams left out of the BCS bowls based on having played a creampuff non-conference schedule. Why should Boise State suddenly get respect for playing an entire schedule of creampuffs with only one exception?
well said..

[Fraggle145]

thanks crimson (i'm assuming bama fan).

imo, boise st. looks pretty equal to bama and georgia. not "bad" teams by any means, but far from a "top notch" team. i'd like to see boise play a bama/uga type team in a bowl so they'd be exposed in a "lesser bowl".

no offense to boise... they went undefeated (grats) but they TOTALLY pussed on the schedule.

WRONG. UGA already beat Boise's A$$ last year.. how many times do I need to say it... Boise is a PRE-TEN-DER!

[rebmus]

WRONG. UGA already beat Boise's A$$ last year.. how many times do I need to say it... Boise is a PRE-TEN-DER!
last year... i was saying boise looks about equal to georgia THIS year.

boise would likely finish middle of the pack in the big 12 or sec.

[fadada1]

boise state plays on a blue field, folks. A BLUE FIELD!!!11!!11!!

seriously, is that even allowed??? they should be ashamed of themselves... just like notre dame for that schedule they've played the last month.

[swardboy]

I'm one of those who think Boise State is vastly outclassed by any potential BCS opponent, Sooners included.

When it's stated they "rolled" through their schedule that needs to be taken in context. They beat Wyoming by 7, Hawaii by 7 and San Jose St by 3. They played (and beat) only one BCS conference school in their entire season (by comparison, we played 10).

As to the Big12, I can name 7 conference teams that I would have as favorites over Boise State if they were to play.

The real problem with putting them in a BCS bowl is that it's a lose-lose situation for their opponent. Even if they get blown out 77-0 whoever they play will get no lift out of it, while if they pull off the upset their opponent's momentum headed in to next season takes a major hit.

Boise State is to be commended for their unbeaten season (presuming they beat Nevada), but if they want to play with the big boys at the end of the season they need to nut up and replace those 1AA and MWC opponents on their schedule with BCS conference opponents.

I mean, c'mon.. there have been BCS conference teams left out of the BCS bowls based on having played a creampuff non-conference schedule. Why should Boise State suddenly get respect for playing an entire schedule of creampuffs with only one exception?


Post of the Thread!

[royalfan5]

WRONG. UGA already beat Boise's A$$ last year.. how many times do I need to say it... Boise is a PRE-TEN-DER!
TCU beat OU last year!!!! Does that have any relevance on where the Sooners go this year? Or what about UCLA beating up on the Sooners last year. UCLA is a terrible team, so obviously the Sooners must be frauds if they got beat by somebody in a previous season.

[sooneron]

FWIW, Boise has not "rolled" all of its opponents. They looked like crap at mighty New Mexico.
I don't give ANY team respect that has their conf sched and then they bring in a div 1-aa team. **** them!

[AimForCenterMass]

To all of you Boise State supporters: I respect your opinion, but I have a little homework for you.

1. Pick up the X-Box or PS2 and load NCAA Football 2007, or whatever year suits your taste.

2. Now, pick an average team; it doesn't matter who you pick, but choose a team thats sitting right around a B- or a C...you know, just an average team.

3. Then, make a schedule picking only the easiest of teams...but don't forget to include ONE game against an average opponent on your home turf.

4. Final step, play out the season and let me know if you DON'T go undefeated.

Here's where I'm getting at; you can take an average team and go undefeated with an easy schedule, but it doesn't make the team any better. Undefeated or not, its still the same average team, just with a better record than most teams.

Now, does an average team, undefeated or not, deserve to go to a BCS bowl game with the elite just because they're undefeated? This is an average team we're talking about here; an average team who just happens to have a perfect record because of a weak schedule. Like the saying goes, "You can't polish a turd".

[Boise Bandit]

Oh

my

gosh

[sanantoniosooner]

Let me just state that I'm not so much a Boise supporter as a "Quit behaving like a spoiled little tard" supporter.

A week ago we thought we'd be shut out of a BCS game.

Now we are whining about a potential matchup.

I swear my mother in law posts under about 200 names on this board.

[Okla-homey]

Its simple.

Blue turf.

For the love of all that's holy, how can program who plays on blue plastic grass be taken seriously?

[meoveryouxinfinity]

They have it the other way around. It's embarrassing for us to play them.

We're in a lose-lose situation. Supposing we end up playing them and beat them, the media will say, "Wow, congrats, whoopdy-do, you beat a mid major." We lose and the media will say, "Wow, they lost to a MID MAJOR?!"

But since when have we cared what the media says?

[Boise Bandit]

Its simple.

Blue turf.

For the love of all that's holy, how can program who plays on blue plastic grass be taken seriously?


We seem to be getting a ton of press around here lately . . . so someone is taking us seriously.

[StoopTroup]

We seem to be getting a ton of press around here lately . . . so someone is taking us seriously.
I knew we'd flush a mustang outta the brush eventually.

Welcome to Soonerfans.com

BTW...I think all teams you play should be taken seriously until your team is up on them by 50.

:pop:

[Boise Bandit]

Thanks . . . I'm blue with envy of this place.

[Cam]

Oh

my

gosh
Hello Jenni

[Boise Bandit]

:D

[Boarder]

Did anyone watch Boise try to play with a big boy team last year, at UGA? It was men against boise. hehe, I just made that up. Woooo!

[Boise Bandit]

You just had to bring that up . . . :(

[Boarder]

I like Boise. I think they're neato. I root for them all the time.

But, I know what they are. They should, too. They need to place a phone call to Rutgers.

[Boise State Penguin]

This is a new year, folks.


You smug dirt burglars make me so mad! :mad:

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Yeah! The penguin arrives!!!

[Miko]

I've got a cunning plan to get us out of this mess!

Beat the tar out the bugeaters like the f'n hillbillies we are, go to the rose to play Michigan! bs can go back to playing sixth-grade girls' teams on their blue grass. Everyone is happy.

Tell bs they can sit at the grown-ups' table when grandpa dies.

[Fraggle145]

Did anyone watch Boise try to play with a big boy team last year, at UGA? It was men against boise. hehe, I just made that up. Woooo!

Check every thread pertaining to Boise on this Board. I think I have brought the UGA game up on every one of them... Mainly because I was THERE. UGA is my 2nd team (did my MS there). UGA pounded them so bad! Zabransky got pulled because he was such an embarrassment. UGA could have score 20 more points with their second team! I felt bad for the people that made the trip and thought that Boise could play big boy football.

I am hoping that the Rose selects us. I am not sure how the selection process works with one of their teams going to the championship game if they can take any team or if they have to take an at large... :pop:

Boise Sucks.