Nov. 18th Rankings (updated)

[mrowl]

Sagarin is out. OU is 23rd.

http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cfsend.htm

Coaches Poll:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm

1. Ohio State (63) 12-0 1,575 1
2. Southern California 9-1 1,444 4
3. Michigan 11-1 1,428 2
4. Florida 10-1 1,407 3
5. Arkansas 10-1 1,302 6
6. Notre Dame 10-1 1,285 5
7. West Virginia 9-1 1,151 7
8. LSU 9-2 1,081 9
9. Wisconsin 11-1 1,053 10
10. Texas 9-2 994 11
11. Louisville 9-1 944 12
12. Boise State 11-0 862 13
13. Auburn 10-2 825 15
14. Oklahoma 9-2 795 16
15. Georgia Tech 9-2 655 18
16. Rutgers 9-1 641 8
17.Virginia Tech 9-2 561 19
18. Boston College 9-2 540 20
19. Nebraska 8-3 353 22
20. Wake Forest 9-2 343 14
21. Tennessee 8-3 326 23
22. California 8-3 265 17
23. Brigham Young 9-2 256 24
24. Clemson 8-3 174 25
25. Hawaii 9-2 97 NR

AP Poll

1. Ohio State (65) 12-0 1,625
2. Michigan 11-1 1,502
3. USC 9-1 1,493
4. Florida 10-1 1,451
5. Arkansas 10-1 1,365
6. Notre Dame 10-1 1,307
7. West Virginia 9-1 1,144
8. Louisville 9-1 1,078
9. LSU 9-2 1,075
10. Wisconsin 11-1 1,049
11. Texas 9-2 1,028
12. Boise State 11-0 878
13. Oklahoma 9-2 856
14. Auburn 10-2 822
15. Rutgers 9-1 736
16. Georgia Tech 9-2 667
17. Virginia Tech 9-2 583
18. Boston College 9-2 516
19. Tennessee 8-3 404
20. Wake Forest 9-2 355
21. Brigham Young 9-2 325
22. California 8-3 302
23. Nebraska 8-3 258
24. Clemson 8-3 122
25. Hawaii 9-2 89

[fadada1]

jeff sagarin participates in gay porn.

a 3 loss tennessee team ahead of us???? OK:rolleyes:

[sooneron]

Don't you mean 20?

[mrowl]

nope. the red numbers are the actual bcs numbers.

[sooneron]

Yet Predictor has us at 15

[TXBOOMER]

Anyone for a game of ELO Chess?

[sooneron]

http://janbraum.unas.cz/rock/ELO/img/elo_sk.jpg

[colleyvillesooner]

SO mike and 6-5 Arizona are 2 spots behind us in the BCS. Yeah, that guys computer rules. :rolleyes:

[OUHOMER]

nope. the red numbers are the actual bcs numbers.
how do you get actual BCS numbers when the other polls arent out yet?

[mrowl]

how do you get actual BCS numbers when the other polls arent out yet?

let me rephrase, those are the rankings sagarin turns in to the BCS.

[OUHOMER]

You would think any logical person would see that the Sagarin has way to many flaws. Penn St at 15 please!!!!!!!!

[Frozen Sooner]

For what it's worth, Jeff Sagarin doesn't like his own BCS rating system. He much prefers the predictor number as more statistically valid.

[Egeo]

SO mike and 6-5 Arizona are 2 spots behind us in the BCS. Yeah, that guys computer rules. :rolleyes:
well, we dropped 4 spots in the predictor this week after a win
i assume because oregon lost big to arizona and we "lost" to oregon

and we played a team witha losing record so our sos goes down

[Frozen Sooner]

Shush with your logic and facts, Egeo.

[mrowl]

coaches poll has been added.

[noobalicious]

Why in the hell is Auburn still ahead of us. They just struggled against Alabama. And don't give me rivalry game bs either.

I don't think there's a sane person in the country that could argue our losses were "worse" than Auburn's.

At least Coaches poll has us top 14 which is where we need to be!

[Stoop Dawg]

Didn't LSU just go to overtime with a 3-8 Mississippi team? What am I missing here?

[noobalicious]

That is also ridiculous. LSU. What a joke. Mississippi should have won too. They were up 20-7 in the 4th quarter. Didn't LSU not just get #8 but didn't they move up too? Unbelievable.

Also a joke...a michigan team who lost to easily the best team in college football ranked behind a usc team who lost to oregon state. Nothing against Oregon st. but they definately aren't Ohio St.

[Ruuuuuufus]

haha Notre Dame won and fell a spot.

[colleyvillesooner]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

13th in the AP, Michigan narrowly stayed #2

[mrowl]

13th in the AP is higher than I thought we would get.

[mrowl]

we need Harris to come in at 14, that will probably put us past Auburn in the BCS, and make us eligible for a BCS bowl.

[colleyvillesooner]

It's gonna be real close. But an LSU loss to Arkansas and a big win by us @ OSU should do the trick.

[Widescreen]

I couldn't care less about the AP poll anyway. I wish someone would anally violate the AP poll, kancho it, stab it in the heart and leave it for dead.


OK, I guess I do care about it a little. :O

[Sooner98]

Looks like a Michigan/Ohio St. rematch is all but inevitable now.

[mrowl]

Looks like a Michigan/Ohio St. rematch is all but inevitable now.

not if USC beats the domers.

[Scott D]

not if USC beats the domers.

basically....and we couldn't begin to stress how ****ed the Rose Bowl would be that both winners of their automatic spots would be playing in Arizona the week after the Rose Bowl, and they would both have to settle for the second place teams. Not as amusing as say, if Michigan and Ohio State met for the title, forcing the Rose Bowl to take the 3rd place Big-10 team :D

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Conferences can't send more than 2 teams right? I always thought that was in there somewhere?

[Scott D]

they can't. I just thought it would be amusing if that was an actual scenario :)

[mrowl]

Conferences can't send more than 2 teams right? I always thought that was in there somewhere?

I think they can't, but no more than 2 from the same conference have ever been in the top 14.

And that means the rose will have to take Cal and Michigan.

[mrowl]

BCS:

1 Ohio State
2 Michigan
3 Southern California
4 Florida
5 Notre Dame
6 Arkansas
7 West Virginia
8 Wisconsin
9 Louisville
10 LSU
11 Boise St
12 Auburn
13 Texas
14 Rutgers
15 Oklahoma
16 Georgia Tech
17 Virginia Tech
18 Boston College
19 California
20 Tennessee
21 Wake Forest
22 Nebraska
23 BYU
24 Clemson
25 Penn State

[Scott D]

those standings aren't too surprising really.

[franklinjake]

13th in the AP is higher than I thought we would get.
And I understand Stoops doesn't want to run up the score, but unfortunately you have to nowadays to impress voters. A couple extra touchdowns in the 4th quarter against Baylor would have been easy and would have been more impressive.

[TUSooner]

jeff sagarin participates in gay porn.

a 3 loss tennessee team ahead of us???? OK:rolleyes:
Because the SEC is greatest college football league evar, silly.
:rolleyes:

[Crucifax Autumn]

Isn't that a rather sad reality? Unfortunately, when OU does it it's considered unsportsmanlike by the voters.

[franklinjake]

those standings aren't too surprising really.

Yeah, but I still do not understand how Louisville, West Virginia and Rutgers are ahead of us. Cincinatti beat Rutgers for heavens sakes!

[franklinjake]

It is a sad realuty, because the voters look at the score, most didnt watch our game. When you look just at the final score, it is nothing mind blowing. So it doesnt raise the voters eye browes. Just my opinion.

[Scott D]

Yeah, but I still do not understand how Louisville, West Virginia and Rutgers are ahead of us. Cincinatti beat Rutgers for heavens sakes!

probably because all of those teams have a 1 after the dash in their record, whereas we have a 2* after the dash in our record. Rutgers took a huge hit with their loss. The computers are going to like them more because both WVa and Louisville are ranked a hell of a lot higher than say, A&M and Missouri.

[franklinjake]

probably because all of those teams have a 1 after the dash in their record, whereas we have a 2* after the dash in our record. Rutgers took a huge hit with their loss. The computers are going to like them more because both WVa and Louisville are ranked a hell of a lot higher than say, A&M and Missouri.
I would love to see those 3 teams play a schedule like ours. So overrated in my opinion....

[StormySooner-IN]

they can't. I just thought it would be amusing if that was an actual scenario :)

Heh, then after a MEDIOCRE season, Purdue would've been in the Big 10 #2 spot, even though were #5, and we'd be in The C1 Bowl:D ;) ;) :P



Just updated.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions

[Cam]

probably because all of those teams have a 1 after the dash in their record, whereas we have a 2* after the dash in our record. Rutgers took a huge hit with their loss. The computers are going to like them more because both WVa and Louisville are ranked a hell of a lot higher than say, A&M and Missouri.
And the computers aren't liking us one bit. We're 20 behind the likes of Penn State and Georgia Tech just to name a couple that I think we would squash.

[OUHOMER]

WOW okie lite vs bama in shreveport.... thought they may be left out

[Scott D]

I would love to see those 3 teams play a schedule like ours. So overrated in my opinion....

*shrug* I won't really do much schedule belittling in regards to teams that belong to a conference. Notre Dame on the other hand...there's a schedule that deserves mass quantities of ridicule.

[Scott D]

And the computers aren't liking us one bit. We're 20 behind the likes of Penn State and Georgia Tech just to name a couple that I think we would squash.

Well like it or not, we have to look at a few facts as to why the computers are hurting us.

1. Big-12 did a terrible job in OOC against the other BCS conferences.
2. Big-12 is doing a terrible job of convincing anyone that the teams in the conference sans Texas and Oklahoma are deserving of any consideration.
3. Both Oregon and Washington being mediocre since about halfway through the season is killing us with the computers.

[Cam]

*shrug* I won't really do much schedule belittling in regards to teams that belong to a conference. Notre Dame on the other hand...there's a schedule that deserves mass quantities of ridicule.
Their schedule is beyond a joke. At some point, they're going to have to stop paying for a spot in the BCS. Since their cut got reduced, it doesn't make much sense to spend $4-5 Mill to get the payout.

[Cam]

Well like it or not, we have to look at a few facts as to why the computers are hurting us.

1. Big-12 did a terrible job in OOC against the other BCS conferences.
2. Big-12 is doing a terrible job of convincing anyone that the teams in the conference sans Texas and Oklahoma are deserving of any consideration.
3. Both Oregon and Washington being mediocre since about halfway through the season is killing us with the computers.
Agreed.

[colleyvillesooner]

9/02 at Ga Tech 9-2
09/09 #19 Penn State 8-4
09/16 #11 Michigan 11-1
09/23 at Mich St 4-8
09/30 Purdue 8-4
10/07 Stanford 1-10
10/21 UCLA 6-5
10/28 at Navy 8-3
11/04 UNC 2-9
11/11 at Air Force 4-6
11/18 Army 3-8
11/25 at #4 USC 9-1

Opponents are 73-61, .544%

[franklinjake]

9/02 at Ga Tech 9-2
09/09 #19 Penn State 8-4
09/16 #11 Michigan 11-1
09/23 at Mich St 4-8
09/30 Purdue 8-4
10/07 Stanford 1-10
10/21 UCLA 6-5
10/28 at Navy 8-3
11/04 UNC 2-9
11/11 at Air Force 4-6
11/18 Army 3-8
11/25 at #4 USC 9-1

Opponents are 73-61, .544%

Gawd that sucketh....

[franklinjake]

Well like it or not, we have to look at a few facts as to why the computers are hurting us.

1. Big-12 did a terrible job in OOC against the other BCS conferences.
2. Big-12 is doing a terrible job of convincing anyone that the teams in the conference sans Texas and Oklahoma are deserving of any consideration.
3. Both Oregon and Washington being mediocre since about halfway through the season is killing us with the computers.

Absolutely...

[mrowl]

SOS:

Notre Dame 23
Oklahoma 49

[sooneron]

I don't think the rose can take cal. I guess it depends on the bcs, but they were 19th last week in the bcs and now they are 22 nd in both polls.

[mrowl]

I don't think the rose can take cal. I guess it depends on the bcs, but they were 19th last week in the bcs and now they are 22 nd in both polls.

I think they can... Are they not an official member of the BCS?

EDIT

I looked it up, and they have to take an eligible at large bid.

[sooneron]

Oh yeah.

[sooneron]

I think they can... Are they not an official member of the BCS?

EDIT

I looked it up, and they have to take an eligible at large bid.
Well, that would be the rose bowl of old, a TOTAL non factor game.:texan:

[mrowl]

sooo... Michigan and Florida / Arkansas?

this is making my head hurt tonight.

[sooneron]

It's not worth worrying about with games to be played. Fun, but not worth popping open a bottle or something.

[sooneron]

I still think the bowls want a little bit of the tie in- sugar gets the sec champ if they aren't in the title game.

[Cam]

SOS:

Notre Dame 23
Oklahoma 49
Their saving grace is that Navy doesn't suck balls like they normally do. Our down fall is that Oregon and Mizzou crapped all over themselves the last month or so.

[sooneron]

Their saving grace is that Navy doesn't suck balls like they normally do. Our down fall is that Oregon and Mizzou crapped all over themselves the last month or so.
yep

[Stoop Dawg]

So the OSU-UM game last weekend was pretty much meaningless?